Re: Re: Sofas, Sleeper Sofas, Chairs, rotten back and knees!

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Kathy -

I got the recliners just prior to my revision in 2001, so it's been 5 years now and they are still going strong! I'm sure they will still be fine for me after this next surgery too. And if I remember right, they were some of the least expensive ones there at La-Z-Boy - only about 250 each - while all the rest were very big and way too 'cushy' for me....they also ran around 5-600 and up.

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I always had a waterbed till 2 yrs. ago..I never thought I would get use to a regular bed but I love it better than the waterbed now.. I couldn't go back to a waterbed now cause towards the end I was having a hard time sleeping on it and in alot of pain too..But I did like the fact that it was heated I miss that part..VonnieIzarah Star <izarahstar@...> wrote: Does anyone out there sleep on a waterbed besides me? I always have a difficult time sleeping on a regular mattress. So vacationing can be painful. I have slept on my waterbed since I had my Harrington Rod put in way back in 1979. I like the fact it has no pressure points and its always nice and warm. Anyone else share my views?Dawg@... wrote: Kathy - I got the recliners just prior to my revision in 2001, so it's been 5 years now and they are still going strong! I'm sure they will still be fine for me after this next surgery too. And if I remember right, they were some of the least expensive ones there at La-Z-Boy - only about 250 each - while all the rest were very big and way too 'cushy' for me....they also ran around 5-600 and up. ~~"Does the noise in my head bother you?" steven tyler What are the most popular cars? Find out at Autos scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates

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Kam, How does the memory foam work for you? Where did you get it from? I have seen pillows but never a full bed. Very interesting. Izarah.advokam <advokam@...> wrote: Izarah,I had to give up my soft-side waterbed in 2000 when it just didn't provide sufficient support for me. I had been sleeping on it wonderfully since 1993 - also slept on a plain old twin waterbed when I was a kid until my parents got me a really great bedroom suit with a platform twin bed at age 15.Now, it's memory foam for me...kam "Does the noise in my head bother you?" steven tyler

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Kam

Do you have a problem turning over in your tempur-pedic bed? Does anyone else with this bed have a problem. I feel like I'm trying to move in quicksand.

Joyce E

[ ] Re: Sofas, Sleeper Sofas, Chairs, rotten back and knees!

Izarah,I had to give up my soft-side waterbed in 2000 when it just didn't provide sufficient support for me. I had been sleeping on it wonderfully since 1993 - also slept on a plain old twin waterbed when I was a kid until my parents got me a really great bedroom suit with a platform twin bed at age 15.Now, it's memory foam for me...kam

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I loved the waterbed, too, but my husband didn't so we went back to a pillow-top mattress and then added a memory foam topper. I miss the waterbed except that it was hard to get out of towards the end.

Llweyn

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of Izarah StarSent: January 20, 2006 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Sofas, Sleeper Sofas, Chairs, rotten back and knees!

Does anyone out there sleep on a waterbed besides me? I always have a difficult time sleeping on a regular mattress. So vacationing can be painful. I have slept on my waterbed since I had my Harrington Rod put in way back in 1979. I like the fact it has no pressure points and its always nice and warm. Anyone else share my views?Dawg@... wrote:

Kathy -

I got the recliners just prior to my revision in 2001, so it's been 5 years now and they are still going strong! I'm sure they will still be fine for me after this next surgery too. And if I remember right, they were some of the least expensive ones there at La-Z-Boy - only about 250 each - while all the rest were very big and way too 'cushy' for me....they also ran around 5-600 and up.

~~"Does the noise in my head bother you?" steven tyler

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Cam,

I have the 8" tempur also. I also wear silk pj's and have done so for years. I love them. If for some strange reason you decide not to get dressed one day, you don't feel the least bit bad about not doing so.

Now that I have been in the hospital bed with the air mattress for 9 days, my pressure sores look great. Maybe I just need to send the tempur back and stay where I am. I can grab the rail of the bed to turn on my side. I just wanted to know if I was the only one with a problem turning on the tempur.

Joyce E

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Joyce,I can't remember which company or thickness you ended up with. Last weekend I was bed shopping with a friend (who has a run-of-the mill type back problem) and so I got to lay on a variety of memory foam sets at once.The 8" Temerpedic is by far the "stiffest" the 10" Temper I sank in more, and then when I tried the Serta (I think) that was a deluxe 10" with a thick top of memory foam, I thought how nice it felt but how hard to turn in it would be. Me and my little stiff 8"er still (and always) will use silk pajamas to facilitate turning in bed. Do you use them?Good sleeping, Cam

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Cam,

Last year when I was renting the hospital bed it depreciated out while I had it. When I called them to come and pick it up they told me it was no longer in inventory so I put it in the basement. They did pick up the mattress. Two weeks ago I called them to see how much a mattress would cost and she told me they had a discontinued series and would sell me one for $700, motor included. SOLD! They delivered it free of charge that day. So, assuming it doesn't pop, I am very comfortable on it. I hate to return things but the tempur was extremely high and that's what I need to do.

Joyce E

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Joyce,That is the beauty of the Tempur...if it isn't right...send it back. Can you keep the hospital bed set up? I sounds like you may need the extra help the rails offer you...or something attached to your bed to help you roll.I hope you can work something out. Cam

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Cam,

I just realized I never answered your question about my air mattress. The mattress has pockets in it that are filled with air. Very slowly a motor deflates a pocket while inflating another. You don't notice it but it keeps you from having pressure points. I don't move from the time my head hits the pillow until my hubby wakes me in the morning so I need this to keep my circulation flowing. Sorry I took so long answering you.

Joyce E

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Joyce,It sounds like a good decision to me. When you say air mattress...are they all air or what? What role does the motor play?We have one of those aero-bed mattresses with a small motor attached which inflates it.I have to use a air bed on top of a platform when we are houseboating...no way I could sleep on the thin foam mattress they have aboard...so I spend 10-14 days on a cheapie camping style inflatable air mattress and have found it very comfortable..no pressure points anyway when I wake in the morning.At last you have a good sleeping situation! Cam

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Joyce, they put me on one of those mattresses in the hospital when I had my total cystectomy. My husband wanted to buy one, but never found out how!

Carole

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Carole, are you still interested in buying an air mattress? I don't know if I can help but I would try. I bought mine from a discontinued series for $700. That was a steal!

Joyce E

Re: [ ] Re: Sofas, Sleeper Sofas, Chairs, rotten back and knees!

Joyce, they put me on one of those mattresses in the hospital when I had my total cystectomy. My husband wanted to buy one, but never found out how!

Carole

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I remember, well sort of, being on one of those in intensive care after my first surgery. I was certain there had to be a pattern to it's inflations and deflations, and was trying to figure it out - anything to think about rather than how much it hurt! - but between the drugs and the fact the pain kept spiking so that I was passing out, I never did actually figure it out and I think it actually freaked me out more than soothed me. I was actually rather relieved *not* to be on one after my revision.

When I was moved down to the main ward after the original surgery, I was in a really ropey state for a while and barely moved. I became convinced once I was able to actually move a little, and to roll onto my right side, that the mattress had developed a permanent me-shaped dent, because as fast as I moved, I slid straight back to how I had been lying, and could literally feel the dip. Of course the nurses denied this, so I spent 5 days on my back where the only time I was moved was to be given a bed pan, which was not enough time for the mattress to recover. They moved me to a different room on the Saturday evening, and of course re-made the bed while they were at it. The nurse who did it looked at the mattress and said " Oh dear, we've had you on the wrong kind of mattress for someone so immobile " !

titch-- Something unknown is doing we don't know what

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, Titch had her surgeries in England, so you don't have to worry you'll

end up in the same hospital.

(Sorry to jump in there, Titch, but 's new and no doubt nervous.)

Pain control certainly can be an issue. One person in particular has

recently related her experience as an opioid-tolerent patient. Her pre-op

pain meds had made the post-op ones ineffective. Be sure and ask Rand or

whoever ends up doing your surgery to discuss in detail the plan for

managing your post-op pain.

Sharon

[ ] Re: Sofas, Sleeper Sofas, Chairs, rotten back

and knees!

>

>>

> Hi!

>

> I am new here and was reading your post. Thanks for the info- where

> did you have surgery and who did it? They didnt control your pain

> enough so that you passed out? Wow- please let me know more, if you

> can.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>> I remember, well sort of, being on one of those in intensive care

> after my

>> first surgery. I was certain there had to be a pattern to it's

> inflations

>> and deflations, and was trying to figure it out - anything to

> think about

>> rather than how much it hurt! - but between the drugs and the fact

> the pain

>> kept spiking so that I was passing out, I never did actually

> figure it out

>> and I think it actually freaked me out more than soothed me. I

> was actually

>> rather relieved *not* to be on one after my revision.

>>

>> When I was moved down to the main ward after the original surgery,

> I was in

>> a really ropey state for a while and barely moved. I became

> convinced once

>> I was able to actually move a little, and to roll onto my right

> side, that

>> the mattress had developed a permanent me-shaped dent, because as

> fast as I

>> moved, I slid straight back to how I had been lying, and could

> literally

>> feel the dip. Of course the nurses denied this, so I spent 5 days

> on my

>> back where the only time I was moved was to be given a bed pan,

> which was

>> not enough time for the mattress to recover. They moved me to a

> different

>> room on the Saturday evening, and of course re-made the bed while

> they were

>> at it. The nurse who did it looked at the mattress and said " Oh

> dear, we've

>> had you on the wrong kind of mattress for someone so immobile " !

>>

>> titch

>>

>>

>> --

>> Something unknown is doing we don't know what

>>

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>

>

>

>

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>

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> scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates

>

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Sharon,

Thanks for shedding some light on that,

whew. I really feel so bad for her…that is not what should happen to

people helping themselves.

Yes, Dr Rand said I would have to be off

of the morphine, oxycontin, percocet, etc that I had been on- I was

overmedicated- but I did not hurt for a bit and that was nice. Somehow again, I

managed to maintain my 4.0 average in class! But now I am not taking anything

like that so I am ready to be scheduled, I only think that some psychological

stuff may need addressing such as my terror! I am not a ‘wimpy’

person, very strong, we all are to have dealt with what we did as children, and

I cant explain it. I guess I am just done, fed up, and sick and tired of

feeling as such, and want no more surgery.

I was a ski instructor!

Ok, enough boo-hooing about me. I just

had to get that out there and try to understand my abnormal fears.

Thanks!

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sharon Green

Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006

5:37 PM

Subject: Re: [ ]

Re: Sofas, Sleeper Sofas, Chairs, rotten back and knees!

, Titch had her surgeries

in England,

so you don't have to worry you'll

end up in the same hospital.

(Sorry to jump in there, Titch, but 's new and

no doubt nervous.)

Pain control certainly can be an issue. One

person in particular has

recently related her experience as an

opioid-tolerent patient. Her pre-op

pain meds had made the post-op ones

ineffective. Be sure and ask Rand or

whoever ends up doing your surgery to discuss in

detail the plan for

managing your post-op pain.

Sharon

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Sofas, Chairs, rotten back

and knees!

>

>>

> Hi!

>

> I am new here and was reading your

post. Thanks for the info- where

> did you have surgery and who did it?

They didnt control your pain

> enough so that you passed out? Wow- please

let me know more, if you

> can.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>> I remember, well sort of, being on one of

those in intensive care

> after my

>> first surgery. I was certain there

had to be a pattern to it's

> inflations

>> and deflations, and was trying to figure

it out - anything to

> think about

>> rather than how much it hurt! - but

between the drugs and the fact

> the pain

>> kept spiking so that I was passing out, I

never did actually

> figure it out

>> and I think it actually freaked me out

more than soothed me. I

> was actually

>> rather relieved *not* to be on one after

my revision.

>>

>> When I was moved down to the main ward

after the original surgery,

> I was in

>> a really ropey state for a while and

barely moved. I became

> convinced once

>> I was able to actually move a little, and

to roll onto my right

> side, that

>> the mattress had developed a permanent

me-shaped dent, because as

> fast as I

>> moved, I slid straight back to how I had

been lying, and could

> literally

>> feel the dip. Of course the nurses

denied this, so I spent 5 days

> on my

>> back where the only time I was moved was

to be given a bed pan,

> which was

>> not enough time for the mattress to

recover. They moved me to a

> different

>> room on the Saturday evening, and of

course re-made the bed while

> they were

>> at it. The nurse who did it looked

at the mattress and said " Oh

> dear, we've

>> had you on the wrong kind of mattress for

someone so immobile " !

>>

>> titch

>>

>>

>> --

>> Something unknown is doing we don't know

what

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers *

revision candidates

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, .

Sorry, but I just had to giggle about your having been a ski instructor. When I last saw an orthopedist for a follow-up as a teen, he asked about my vocational plans. When I said I planned to become a music teacher he said, "Well, that's safer than being a ski instructor!"

Hey, you and I are in competition for the longest flatback heel-dragger, and what a hoot that we live so close to each other! I could add the fact that my scoliosis treatment fears are deep-seated, having begun a childhood of casts, bracing, exercises, follow-up, and eventual surgery at about 6 weeks old. But that doesn't diminish the legitimacy of your fear. Terror is a good word for it. Yeah, works for me. And yet I can discuss the whole thing so casually. Sometimes I'm anxious to get it over with, and other times I'm afraid I'll never be as well off as I am now so I'd better get everything done that I can beforehand. 7000-gallon lily pond? Just one more project to help me hold off revision -- ha-ha! Then there's the fear of pain, fear of dying, ugh, I try not to go there more often than I have to. Do you also have crazy dreams about going into surgery again? I do, and in many dreams I'm wearing a brace or cast. Or how about the ones where you're at school, or wherever, and you have the awfulest time going to the john without an audience? Could that come from using a bedpan on an open ward, lol?! Weren't those fracture pans a joy, especially cold metal ones?! Quite an art using one, wiping yourself, and sliding it out from under the covers without spilling a drop, but we had to be proud of something. Or did you come after the old flat-in-bed-in-a-Risser-cast-up-to-the-back-of-your-head era? Were you, maybe, even allowed to get out of bed? That's what I think will be the big difference this time around, for me.

Anyway, all that rambling just to say that I don't think your fears are at all abnormal. And the whole desire to be done with it? Well, isn't that what we were led to believe way-back-when? That we WERE done with it. No, it's really not fair. And life is too short to spend it in surgery and recovery, but then, it's also too short to just live with the debilitating pain.

I hope you won't have a problem with post-op pain medication. I am currently on Elavil and Neurontin, as well as Celebrex, which are not narcotic but do help me. Dr. Rand says I will not have to go off of them before surgery, but my internist indicated she wants me off Neurontin for a couple weeks but she can substitute codeine or something (not sure what Rand will think of the codeine, but I'll certainly ask). Anyway, there are other things you can try in the meantime so you don't have to be desperate for surgery.

You're not alone...

Sharon

[ ] Re: Sofas, Sleeper Sofas, Chairs, rotten back and knees!> >>> Hi!>> I am new here and was reading your post. Thanks for the info- where> did you have surgery and who did it? They didnt control your pain> enough so that you passed out? Wow- please let me know more, if you> can.>> Thanks!> >>> I remember, well sort of, being on one of those in intensive care> after my>> first surgery. I was certain there had to be a pattern to it's> inflations>> and deflations, and was trying to figure it out - anything to> think about>> rather than how much it hurt! - but between the drugs and the fact> the pain>> kept spiking so that I was passing out, I never did actually> figure it out>> and I think it actually freaked me out more than soothed me. I> was actually>> rather relieved *not* to be on one after my revision.>>>> When I was moved down to the main ward after the original surgery,> I was in>> a really ropey state for a while and barely moved. I became> convinced once>> I was able to actually move a little, and to roll onto my right> side, that>> the mattress had developed a permanent me-shaped dent, because as> fast as I>> moved, I slid straight back to how I had been lying, and could> literally>> feel the dip. Of course the nurses denied this, so I spent 5 days> on my>> back where the only time I was moved was to be given a bed pan,> which was>> not enough time for the mattress to recover. They moved me to a> different>> room on the Saturday evening, and of course re-made the bed while> they were>> at it. The nurse who did it looked at the mattress and said "Oh> dear, we've>> had you on the wrong kind of mattress for someone so immobile"!>>>> titch>>>>>> -->> Something unknown is doing we don't know what>>>>>>>>>>> scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates>

[Guest guest]

As pointed out by Sharon, I had my surgeries in England. My first was in 1994, just short of 21, and was unfortunately done in a local, rural hospital by the local hip and knee guy who had " an interest " in scoliosis and enjoyed tinkering with us. He'd actually have done me less damage with a Harrington. The hospital wasn't up to much either, and I'm pretty sure that the PCA machine just wasn't set up right so it wasn't giving me any painkiller, or at least was giving me *very* little (I kept saying it wasn't working and getting told " it only works if you press it " to which my reply that I was pressing it fell on deaf ears - I finally got a small amount of relief when they took me off it on the Thursday (after surgery on the Monday) and put me on diclofenac twice a day and co-proxamol (same ingredients, but weaker than, Darvocet) a couple of times a day.

It was a totally different experience having the revision - I went in with a mass of fears as to how I owuld be treated, and in fact as it was a specialist spine unit, in a large teaching hospital, it was a *much* better experience. They kept my pain very well treated, and the nursing care was so much better - *everything* was so much better. Also, second time around I wasn't scared to ask for what I needed, or be a bit demanding where required, which makes a difference too. Also, no matter how battered you feel after it, just the sheer relief of having got through it tends to help pull you through the rest )

Anyhoo, sorry for worrying you, I usually try to remember to include the caveats about my treatment and it's reasons (at least when it's in a semi-unrelated thread), but do forget at times.

titch-- Something unknown is doing we don't know what