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Go back about a week, we discussed this already. This is an urban

myth--see message 13645. I know that some people are concerned about

this, but my opinion is that we have to pick our battles, we can't

live in a bubble. I'm much more concerned about mercury and other

toxic metals. And flouride. These are much more worrisome to me

than SLS or propylene glycol.

Believe me, I'm as worried about toxins as anyone, but I just think

that there is someplace you have to draw the line, and I feel that

letters like this that get passed from newsgroup to newsgroup and

cause alarm are the kind of thing that make those of us with

legitimate concerns about toxins look kooky.

I remember about a year and a half ago there was a letter circulated

about suntan lotion causing blindness in children. Well, I worked at

a child care center with toddlers at the time and we had had several

instances of toddlers rubbing suntan lotion in their eyes, and all of

them could still see. I've also gotten it in my eyes more than a few

times. Yes, it stings like hell, but I still see just fine and I

don't know of anyone who has become blind from it.

I don't mean to offend anyone. Just my $.02.

> A friend of mine forwarded the following message to me. It looks

> serious so please read it.

>

> Subject: Check your Shampoo from doctor nabil k 32. Please read the

> message carefully. Go home and check your shampoo.

>

> Check the ingredients listed on your shampoo bottle, and see if they

> have a substance by the name of Sodium Laureth Sulfate, or simply

SLS.

> This substance is found in most shampoos, and the manufacturers use

it

> because it produces a lot of foam and it is cheap. BUT the fact is

> that SLS is used to scrub garage floors, and it is very strong!

> It is also proven that it can cause cancer in the long run, and this

> is no joke. I went home and checked my shampoo (Vidal Sasoon); it

> doesn't contain it; however, others such as Vo5, Palmolive,

> ,the new Hemp Shampoo from Body Shop etc . contain this

> substance.The first ingredient listed (which means it is the single

most

> prevalent ingredient) in Clairol's Herbal Essences is Sodium Laureth

> Sulfate. I also found it in Revlon Shampoo's Flex.

> So I called one company, and told them their product contains a

> substance that will cause people to have cancer. They said, Yeah we

> knew about it but there is nothing we can do about it because we

need

> that substance to produce foam.

> By the way Colgate toothpaste also contains the same

> substance to produce the " bubbles " They said they are going to send

me

> some information.

>

> Research has shown that in the 1980s, the chance of getting cancer

is

> 1 out of 8000 and now, in the 1990s, the chances of getting cancer

is 1

> out of 3, which is very serious. So I hope that you will take this

> seriously and pass this on to all the people you know, and

hopefully, we

> can stop " giving " ourselves the cancer virus.

>

> This is serious, after you have read this, pass it on to as many

> people as possible, this is not a chain letter, but it is in deep

> concern with our health.

>

> Hailey

> Executive Secretary

> University of Pennsylvania Health System Office

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I use Avalon Organic Botanicals which doesn't contain SLS. I buy it at Trader

Joe's or the health food store/co-op.

S

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I read a post yesterday stating that there was no shampoo with sodium lauryth

sulfate...Just to let you know I found 2, that replaced it with Sodium Myreth

Sulfate (is this OK?) 's Shampoo, and Health Kids, found at Wild By Nature.

JFYI -Shari

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In a message dated 1/4/04 1:12:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

RobRose@... writes:

> We have always used " healthy shampoos " in our house, and unfortunately they

> do all burn if they get in your eyes.

>

Thanks,...just wasn't sure if the SLS was the culprit

Robin

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,

I also use Suave but the Daily Clarifying. Only one I can use..

Janet

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I use their hairspray

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No one uses the Magick shampoos and conditioners. I guy them in gallon

tubs with dispensors.

Gingersnap1964@... wrote:

> ,

> I also use Suave but the Daily Clarifying. Only one I can use..

> Janet

>

>

>

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I had problems with my hair getting thin and falling out because of the

ursodiol. I found a pill in the pharmacy at Walmart called Biotin. My hair

came

back and is as thick as it ever was plus it boosts your metabolism.

Kathy, WV

dx 6/01

stage 3/4 PBC

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I have learned that prednisone makes your hair grow and Imuran

(immunosuppressant) makes it fall out...when I was on both drugs, the top of my

head got

thinner and my chin grew hair! lol Was NOT pretty....now all this time later,

my head is still thin and my chin still needs to be waxed! UGH! Couldn't it

have gone the opposite way? Of course not! lol

Funny......not the most pleasant side effects.....of course MUCH better than

the psyhosis I experienced while on prednisone....now that's another story!

Tammy

Texas/ NY

PBC/ AIH stage 4

" Dedicated to making PBC look like pbc.....life is good! "

[Guest guest]

Thanks! I have also tried that and it does seem to help somewhat....I

just found an awesome hair stylist that does a great job on my hair so

it looks alot better too

>

> The shampoo I get from my hair dresser. It is called NIOXIN It is a

> cleanser also and is for Noticeably thinning hair. It was desined

for

> chemotherapy patients. I also have a problem with my hair getting

very

> course, so I get a cleanser and a protien treatment put on every 2

> weeks it really helps.

>

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Try Young Living's kids shampoo and body wash. I use that and I don't

think that there are any of the other ingredients.

Steph

>

> It appears Tom's of Maine has discontinued their shampoo (I'll call

> them on Mon.) I cannot find another shampoo that has no corn or

wheat

> or vit E, meaning soy. Even Toms body bar has corn. Any suggestions?

>

>

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>

> Hi everyone!

> My health food store now carries Dr Hauschka Shampoo! Has anyone

else tried it? I know they are a great company and I am thinking of

trying it when I use up my current one. But first I wanted to show

Bee the ingredients so I don't mess up again.

<snip>

Hi ,

Dr Hauschka's Shampoo is very complex with ingredients that aren't

decipherable nor understandable. In other words there are way too

many ingredients. Carrageenan is a neurotoxin (causes damage to the

nervous system & brain), and Diatomaceous Earth is a form of glass

(see the article in the Files after the folders for Diatoms. Alcohol

is not okay in a shampoo. Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein & Hydrolized Milk

Protein are not okay either. It should be perfume-free as well.

==>Try to find something that is simplier with less ingredients. The

one I use is from Nature Clean:

http://www.franktross.com/nature/inside/herbsham.asp

Luv, Bee

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Hi and Bee,

The brand " Terressentials " seems to be really good.

Their Website home page is: http://www.terressentials.com/

On that page, you can choose which section you want to browse.

Their Haircare section page is:

http://www.terressentials.com/haircare.html

Their Fragrance-free Pure Earth Hair Wash especially has remarkably

few ingredients (organic, all natural): " Infusions of certified

organic nettle, certified organic chamomile and certified organic

shavegrass in distilled water, natural clay minerals, certified

organic tincture of wildcrafted linden flower. "

Their scented hair wash are also all natural.

For e.g., their Lavender Garden Pure Earth Hair Wash ingredients are:

" Infusions of certified organic nettle, certified organic chamomile

and certified organic shavegrass in distilled water, natural clay

minerals, certified organic tincture of wildcrafted linden flower,

essential oils of certified organic true lavender, certified organic

sweet orange, certified organic rose geranium, certified organic

ylang ylang and certified organic clove bud. "

For all shampoos, ingredients lists also state: " You won't find any

of this: Ammonium lauryl sulfate, behenamidopropyl dimethylamine

lactate, butyl paraben, cetyl alcohol, cocamide MEA, cocamidopropyl

betaine, cocamidopropyl hydroxysultaine, hydrolyzed protein,

lauramide DEA, methyl glucose dioleate, myristamine oxide, octyl

methoxycinnamate, olefin sulfonate, polysorbate 20/60, sodium

cocosulfate, sodium hydroxymethyl glycinate, sodium lauryl/laureth

sulfate, sodium myristoyl sarcosinate, soyamidopropalkonium,

stearalkonium chloride, TEA (triethanolamine) lauryl sulfate... "

Hoping this can help. (I am planning to try their products as soon as

I can. They are remarkably not expensive.)

Fran

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>

> Hi and Bee,

>

> The brand " Terressentials " seems to be really good.

> Their Website home page is: http://www.terressentials.com/

> On that page, you can choose which section you want to browse.

> Their Haircare section page is:

> http://www.terressentials.com/haircare.html

>

>

> Hoping this can help. (I am planning to try their products as soon as

> I can. They are remarkably not expensive.)

> Fran

>

Thanks so much for your input! Now it is just a matter of deciding on one!!

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I switched to Terressentials clay hair wash. Everything they make is organic and EDIBLE. There is precious little on the market -- pretty much all other shampoos have plastics and chemicals in them.

http://www.terressentials.com/If you read their website it's pretty shocking how different they are than everyone else out there making personal care products. Dr. Bronners is the only other product I use. For my teeth, I use Tooth Soap.

If you wanted to you could make your own Terressentials style clay wash. It's just aloe vera juice mixed with bentonite clay and some essential oils. They also have herbs in theirs but you could leave those out.

I rinse with diluted ACV and/or lemon juice and leave it on.If you don't want to use clay, you can also use baking soda to wash your hair. I prefer the clay though becuase it gets all the residual gunk out faster than baking soda (which can take months). While your hair is detoxing, you will go through a greasy phase. Once you get through that you will be free of all of the crap in your hair. I've been " no poo " for a couple of weeks now and my hair is not greasy. Only at the end of the day. I've been following Terressentials recommendations to speed up the detox (I leave the clay on for an hour wrapped up in a towel before rinsing).

They don't recommend doing this with chemically treated hair. Switch to natural henna or lighten with lemon juice and/or chamomile.There is a lot more info on this on the discussingnt list -- search for " no poo " .

Ann Marie

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So have I been kidding myself that the Aubrey Organics shampoos that we use are okay? Aubrey is always reputed to be one of the "purer" brands, but it sounds like maybe not?

Re: [ ] shampoo

I switched to Terressentials clay hair wash. Everything they make is organic and EDIBLE. There is precious little on the market -- pretty much all other shampoos have plastics and chemicals in them.http://www.terressentials.com/If you read their website it's pretty shocking how different they are than everyone else out there making personal care products. Dr. Bronners is the only other product I use. For my teeth, I use Tooth Soap.

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I looked up the ingredients. Looks pretty good. It's soap based, not detergent based. The big reason to go no poo is to avoid chemicals and detergents which strip the hair of its natural oils (and makes your hair oilier). I tried using soap (Dr. Bronners) once on my hair and it was super oily and left a residue. The clay wash works much better for me.I think if Aubrey is working for you, stick with it.

On Jan 3, 2008 8:11 PM, Viadro <viadro@...> wrote:

So have I been kidding myself that the Aubrey Organics shampoos that we use are okay? Aubrey is always reputed to be one of the " purer " brands, but it sounds like maybe not?

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>

> > So have I been kidding myself that the Aubrey Organics shampoos that we

> > use are okay? Aubrey is always reputed to be one of the " purer " brands, but

> > it sounds like maybe not?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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After doing all this reading, I just use water on my daughter's hair and will not use shampoo. As she gets older I will use baking soda or bentonite clay mixed with aloe vera, rinsing with diluted apple cider vinegar.

Dr. Bronner's is fine to use -- it can make the hair develop a waxy build-up though. I prefer using clay or baking soda.Ann MarieOn Jan 4, 2008 6:57 AM, samadamfamily <

samadamfamily@...> wrote:thank you guys for all the info. i'm going to order some today. i found a recipe to makeyour own shampoo using herbs and dr. bronner's as a base with some MSM in it, but i'm

afraid to try dr. bronner's on my hair because i've heard it can be drying. does anyoneknow what shampoo you can use for babies/toddlers?

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> > thank you guys for all the info. i'm going to order some today. i found a

> > recipe to make

> > your own shampoo using herbs and dr. bronner's as a base with some MSM in

> > it, but i'm

> > afraid to try dr. bronner's on my hair because i've heard it can be

> > drying. does anyone

> > know what shampoo you can use for babies/toddlers?

> >

> >

>

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I use the clay wash from Terressentials. You mix the baking soda with water to form a paste. I used baking soda but I wasn't crazy about it -- too itchy. However, most no-poo'ers use baking soda and ACV. Some use only water. Some use Dr. Bronners. Some use sea salt. Of those who use baking soda, everyone has a different recipe.

It truly is different for everyone. Depends on your hair type.Read the LiveJournal No Poo community for more information: http://community.livejournal.com/no_poo

Here's the " basics " page: http://babyslime.livejournal.com/174054.htmlOn Jan 4, 2008 9:05 AM, samadamfamily <

samadamfamily@...> wrote:

ann marie,how much baking soda/bentonite clay do you use and what do u mix the baking sodawith? right now i've just been giving my son a bath with a cup of apple cidar vinegar in t

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> > ann marie,

> > how much baking soda/bentonite clay do you use and what do u mix the

> > baking soda

> > with? right now i've just been giving my son a bath with a cup of apple

> > cidar vinegar in t

>

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On my face I have been using diluted Dr. Bronners and then moisturize with plain extra virgin coconut oil. It's amazing how much I used to spend on various facial cleansers and moisturizers -- my face does fine with this!

I also use the Terressentials lip balm. So delicious -- smells like chocolate! And it doesn't burn like other lip balms do.

[Guest guest]

oooh, how much do you dilute your dr. bronner's? i use the extra virgin coconut

oil too and i

like it but did you notice your face going through a detox too? how long does it

last?

thanks again

sam

> On my face I have been using diluted Dr. Bronners and then moisturize with

> plain extra virgin coconut oil. It's amazing how much I used to spend on

> various facial cleansers and moisturizers -- my face does fine with this!

>

> I also use the Terressentials lip balm. So delicious -- smells like

> chocolate! And it doesn't burn like other lip balms do.

>

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My face has not gone through a detox but I haven't used much makeup or anything in a while.I don't know how much I dilute my Dr. Bronners... depends. I diluted it half and half to wash the baby.How much are you supposed to dilute it?

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on the bottle it says a few drops to a bowl/bucket of water and that's what we

used on our

kids but we would put a couple of drops straight on their hair

> My face has not gone through a detox but I haven't used much makeup or

> anything in a while.

>

> I don't know how much I dilute my Dr. Bronners... depends. I diluted it half

> and half to wash the baby.

>

> How much are you supposed to dilute it?

>