Re: Pisceans

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I wonder if quantum physics counts as maths........

Pisceans

Hello Joy,

Your Grandmother sounded like a wonderful person to know. Alot of the

creative and artistic people in the world are born under this sign.

I was a bit surprised to know Albert Einstein was Piscean - for a start

he was good at maths!! I am hopeless with numbers.....

Val

[Guest guest]

Kerry,

You wrote:

> I wonder if quantum physics counts as maths........

Technically, Albert did not work with quantum physics except for his

formula for the photoelectric effect: Emax = hf - W. The rest of the

time he fought against quantum mechanics tooth and nail, particularly

Niels Bohr's probabilistic interpretation of it (the Copenhagen

interpretation). Albert was more famous for Relativity, but it was that

simple photoelectric formula that earned him his Nobel Prize.

He always claimed that math was a weak area where he needed lots of

help, but he was talking about his difficulties with 4x4x4 covariant

tensor algebra. His strength was being able to visualize the

abstractions that were later expressed in math.

I don't think he was ever hypothyroid, although he did have a little pot

belly later in life.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Wouldn't quantum physics be the mathematic ultimate???

I had a bad day today--I guess because I felt really good yesterday, almost

normal, so I cleaned house a bit. I went volunteering this am, which I always

do, then ran errands, you know, the usual, groceries, etc., now I can hardly

keep my eyes open. Bedtime is very soon for me.

SJO :0)

--------- Pisceans

Hello Joy,

Your Grandmother sounded like a wonderful person to know. Alot of the

creative and artistic people in the world are born under this sign.

I was a bit surprised to know Albert Einstein was Piscean - for a start

he was good at maths!! I am hopeless with numbers.....

Val

[Guest guest]

Joy(?),

You wrote:

> Wouldn't quantum physics be the mathematic ultimate???...

It's fairly hairy but not quite the ultimate. Most of the math used for

quantum was developed by the mid-19th c., except for numerical

techniques which depend on computers. I'm not sure I could name an

ultimate in mathematics, but modern research into number theory,

topology, cryptography, combinatorics, and non-linear dynamics come to mind.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Chuck:

Well, you got me!! I'm just guessing!! My son is a pretty smart guy, college

student, Asberger's disorder, a type of Autism, and he rips on nerbs and all

sorts of computer and engineering jargon. He's self-taught on C++, and is in the

process of designing his own roller coaster design simulator, unlike anything

else I've seen. He's done work for a special effects company out in California.

The same one that did effects for " The Terminator " movies, among others. He's

really amazing. IQ is 189. Einstein's was 182. I asked him about the math

question, seems like among both my high-IQ nerd boys, that after quantum

physics, it all just sort of spreads out. Interesting subject, math. So much of

what we do everyday involves a form of math or two. Or, three....

Fun...

SJO :0)

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From: Chuck B <gumboyaya@...>

Joy(?),

You wrote:

> Wouldn't quantum physics be the mathematic ultimate???...

It's fairly hairy but not quite the ultimate. Most of the math used for

quantum was developed by the mid-19th c., except for numerical

techniques which depend on computers. I'm not sure I could name an

ultimate in mathematics, but modern research into number theory,

topology, cryptography, combinatorics, and non-linear dynamics come to mind.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

,

You wrote:

> ... My son is a pretty smart guy,

> college student, Asberger's disorder, a type of Autism, ...

Small world. I also have an Asberger son. His obsession is weather. I

get several emails each day from him with forecasts, El Nino reports,

and warnings. Although he is high functioning, his IQ definitely does

not exceed Einstein's.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Thanks Chuck - I always thought Relativity was quantum physics - Yes and

I can relate to being able to visualise abstractions - Being Piscean he

could probably " see " patterns of energy which had to be explained

mathematically or otherwise scientifically before anyone would believe

him.

Ha ha Sounds familiar doesn't it?

The reason I think he is a genius for the theory of relativity is that

it is a theory of " oneness " not difference. Matter sped up is the same

as energy - therefore everything is energy - including all of us.

I don't know how to write the square part of the formula on this

keyboard - but it's so simple that even I can relate to it!

Kerry

Re: Pisceans

Kerry,

You wrote:

> I wonder if quantum physics counts as maths........

Technically, Albert did not work with quantum physics except for his

formula for the photoelectric effect: Emax = hf - W. The rest of the

time he fought against quantum mechanics tooth and nail, particularly

Niels Bohr's probabilistic interpretation of it (the Copenhagen

interpretation). Albert was more famous for Relativity, but it was that

simple photoelectric formula that earned him his Nobel Prize.

He always claimed that math was a weak area where he needed lots of

help, but he was talking about his difficulties with 4x4x4 covariant

tensor algebra. His strength was being able to visualize the

abstractions that were later expressed in math.

I don't think he was ever hypothyroid, although he did have a little pot

belly later in life.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

I thought this was a hypothyroid chat line, not a math chat line, or a horoscope

chat line. Let's get back to basics, OK? Y'all have each others' personal e-mail

addresses, so you can exchange your thoughts on non-hypothyroid issues between

yourselves, I would think. My e-mail inbox is crowded (flooded?) enough as it

is. I know I'm going the get hell for saying this, maybe I'm the only one who

feels this way. .

Re: Pisceans

Kerry,

You wrote:

> I wonder if quantum physics counts as maths........

Technically, Albert did not work with quantum physics except for his

formula for the photoelectric effect: Emax = hf - W. The rest of the

time he fought against quantum mechanics tooth and nail, particularly

Niels Bohr's probabilistic interpretation of it (the Copenhagen

interpretation). Albert was more famous for Relativity, but it was that

simple photoelectric formula that earned him his Nobel Prize.

He always claimed that math was a weak area where he needed lots of

help, but he was talking about his difficulties with 4x4x4 covariant

tensor algebra. His strength was being able to visualize the

abstractions that were later expressed in math.

I don't think he was ever hypothyroid, although he did have a little pot

belly later in life.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

I dont mind.After receiving so many depressing posts,its good to get some light

hearted fun messages.Makes one feel a bit more normal..

and Mark <koplyn@...> wrote: I thought this was a

hypothyroid chat line, not a math chat line, or a horoscope chat line. Let's

get back to basics, OK? Y'all have each others' personal e-mail addresses, so

you can exchange your thoughts on non-hypothyroid issues between yourselves, I

would think. My e-mail inbox is crowded (flooded?) enough as it is. I know I'm

going the get hell for saying this, maybe I'm the only one who feels this way.

.

RE: Pisceans

Thanks Chuck - I always thought Relativity was quantum physics - Yes and

I can relate to being able to visualise abstractions - Being Piscean he

could probably " see " patterns of energy which had to be explained

mathematically or otherwise scientifically before anyone would believe

him.

Ha ha Sounds familiar doesn't it?

The reason I think he is a genius for the theory of relativity is that

it is a theory of " oneness " not difference. Matter sped up is the same

as energy - therefore everything is energy - including all of us.

I don't know how to write the square part of the formula on this

keyboard - but it's so simple that even I can relate to it!

Kerry

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[Guest guest]

Hi Chuck:

It is indeed a small world.. It has come to mind the findings connecting

pregnant women with thyroid conditions having babies with mental and other

impairments. Have you ever heard of this? My younger son has ADHD.

I did something drastic this am. Out of sheer frustration with these persistent

heart palps, I took half of my Armour dosage, 30 instead of 60. We just did labs

in Jan and felt that symptoms were not being addressed suffiently, so the dosage

was increased from 45 to 60. The heart palps have increased considerable since

then. Pretty much all throughout the day. They're just more pronounced at night,

since I'm laying down trying to get some sleep. This is a most frustrating time

for me.

The greatest battles ever fought are in own minds...

SJO :0)

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From: Chuck B <gumboyaya@...>

,

You wrote:

> ... My son is a pretty smart guy,

> college student, Asberger's disorder, a type of Autism, ...

Small world. I also have an Asberger son. His obsession is weather. I

get several emails each day from him with forecasts, El Nino reports,

and warnings. Although he is high functioning, his IQ definitely does

not exceed Einstein's.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

My youngest daughter was born with severe congenital heart disease - I

knew it was a strange pregnancy as it was so different from my first - I

gained weight with no change in my very healthy diet and the birth was

long and difficult - after the birth I puffed up like a jellyfish with

fluid - again this had never happened to me before. I had never been

anything but slim and health my whole life including during and after

my first pregnancy. It was definitely not the pregnancy hormones.

In hindsight I suspect thyroid deficiency - but of course I can't prove

it.

My sister's son has ADHD and she has had her thyroid removed with

cancer. She was probably more the hyper type not hypo like me. My

daughter does not have ADHD - she is fortunate in that her heart and

lungs are all that was affected - she will probably need a transplant at

some point - it's hard to say.

Mu older daughter is also hypothyroid and on meds - she has a lot of

problems with her reproductive system and mood swings - but the thyroid

hormone has fixed the latter. She was borderline ADHD as a child. (both

my girls are in their 20's now)

So I believe there is a strong connection between thyroid and disorders

in children.

it begs the question - do ADHD kids need thyroid hormone?

Kerry

Re: Pisceans

Hi Chuck:

It is indeed a small world.. It has come to mind the findings connecting

pregnant women with thyroid conditions having babies with mental and

other impairments. Have you ever heard of this? My younger son has ADHD.

I did something drastic this am. Out of sheer frustration with these

persistent heart palps, I took half of my Armour dosage, 30 instead of

60. We just did labs in Jan and felt that symptoms were not being

addressed suffiently, so the dosage was increased from 45 to 60. The

heart palps have increased considerable since then. Pretty much all

throughout the day. They're just more pronounced at night, since I'm

laying down trying to get some sleep. This is a most frustrating time

for me.

The greatest battles ever fought are in own minds...

SJO :0)

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From: Chuck B <gumboyaya@...>

,

You wrote:

> ... My son is a pretty smart guy,

> college student, Asberger's disorder, a type of Autism, ...

Small world. I also have an Asberger son. His obsession is weather. I

get several emails each day from him with forecasts, El Nino reports,

and warnings. Although he is high functioning, his IQ definitely does

not exceed Einstein's.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Hi Kerry,

You wrote:

> My youngest daughter was born with severe congenital heart disease - I

> knew it was a strange pregnancy as it was so different from my first - I

> gained weight with no change in my very healthy diet and the birth was

> long and difficult - after the birth I puffed up like a jellyfish with

> fluid - ...

That sounds more like pre-eclampsia, which mainly affects the end stage

of pregnancy, although these symptoms could also be side effects of the

congenital condition. Most of the fetal heart develops in the first few

weeks of the pregnancy. A simple illness of the mother or exposure to an

environmental toxin at this stage can cause problems. These are easily

missed, which is why the cause for a congenital heart defect is usually

a mystery. About 20% are thought to be genetic.

When she was about 10 weeks pregnant, my wife was accidentally sprayed

by an aircraft dumping defoliants on a cotton field. He over shot the

end of the field and sprayed a housing unit. My wife looked up at the

planed and got a face full of defoliant. She was quite ill for a week

and nearly miscarried.

In addition to his Asperger's syndrome, my son also had several cardiac

problems, including pulmonary valvular stenosis, atrial septal defect,

and shunting. All were eventually repaired, although he still has

noticeable regurgitation from mitral prolapse.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Chuck have you read the info on iodine as a major toxin remover? and vice

versa I think, toxins can cause iodine deficiency?

http://www.optimox.com

Gracia

>

> That sounds more like pre-eclampsia, which mainly affects the end stage

> of pregnancy, although these symptoms could also be side effects of the

> congenital condition. Most of the fetal heart develops in the first few

> weeks of the pregnancy. A simple illness of the mother or exposure to an

> environmental toxin at this stage can cause problems. These are easily

> missed, which is why the cause for a congenital heart defect is usually

> a mystery. About 20% are thought to be genetic.

>

> When she was about 10 weeks pregnant, my wife was accidentally sprayed

> by an aircraft dumping defoliants on a cotton field. He over shot the

> end of the field and sprayed a housing unit. My wife looked up at the

> planed and got a face full of defoliant. She was quite ill for a week

> and nearly miscarried.

>

> In addition to his Asperger's syndrome, my son also had several cardiac

> problems, including pulmonary valvular stenosis, atrial septal defect,

> and shunting. All were eventually repaired, although he still has

> noticeable regurgitation from mitral prolapse.

>

> Chuck

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

look on http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com for common problems/mistakes

with Armour. Too low a dose and treating to TSH are the biggest ones.

60mg is way too low. Or you need adrenal meds. You just cannot " do labs "

with Armour, you have to treat symptoms.

Gracia

> Hi Chuck:

> It is indeed a small world.. It has come to mind the findings connecting

> pregnant women with thyroid conditions having babies with mental and other

> impairments. Have you ever heard of this? My younger son has ADHD.

> I did something drastic this am. Out of sheer frustration with these

> persistent heart palps, I took half of my Armour dosage, 30 instead of 60.

> We just did labs in Jan and felt that symptoms were not being addressed

> suffiently, so the dosage was increased from 45 to 60. The heart palps

> have increased considerable since then. Pretty much all throughout the

> day. They're just more pronounced at night, since I'm laying down trying

> to get some sleep. This is a most frustrating time for me.

> The greatest battles ever fought are in own minds...

> SJO :0)

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Gracia wrote:

>

> Chuck have you read the info on iodine as a major toxin remover? and vice

> versa I think, toxins can cause iodine deficiency?

I seem to remember discussing that here awhile back, although it may

have been somewhere else. The argument was that we still benefit from

iodine supplements even if the thyroid is completely gone and fully

supplemented. It is an argument you usually find being made by people

selling kelp.

However, iodine benefits seem to fall in a narrow range of blood levels.

That is why it was once given, as you told us, to reduce thyroid

function in Graves' disease. Above a certain level, it becomes cytotoxic

and actually attacks the main organ that uses it. As with many

supplements, too much is even more dangerous than not enough.

Chuck