chriss finally found it---what my daughter first took

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http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/products/adrenal_rebuilder.php

la takes two of these adrenal rebuilders one morning and at

night--

http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/products/hypothyroidism.php

she takes 6 drops in the morning of this thyro-balance

http://www.immunesupport.com/shop/product.cfm?Product__Code=P203

she takes two of these adrenal energy pills a day

https://www.immunesupport.com/shop/product.cfm?Product__Code=P208

she takes one of these a day without iron---can't take in the iron

(bathroom)

http://www.vitaminmd.com/isocort.htm

she takes 2 -4 a day (isocort)

http://www.greenwillowtree.com/tides/Detail.bok?

searchpath=cfe4f039f7df4b839da1 & category=Thyroid & start=1 & total=8 & no=58

she takes in two a day of thyodine

she also takes in a zinc one or two a week --also dhea one or two a

week (because it's in the adrenal energy as well), seafood veggies

because of the iron content and iodine (sparingly), ginkoba--only one

or two a week---also omega fatty acid--one or two a week---distilled

water only---milk thistel (only two or so a week) and now started on

the progest cream (one small drop only at night for only 3 weeks)

She is taking in only about half of the glandulars---for example on

the adrenal rebuilder if that was the only one she was using it says

to take 2 pills 3 times a day---but because she is taking in so many

other glandulars we have cut all the others down to less than half

the required amounts---why we take different ones is becasue they

have different glandulars in them----

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-Ok Chriss what I did and your son is different, everyone is--I went

to all these sights and figure out what my daughter needed---on this

after three months she did get her period (and now she is not doing

this and does not have her P) so we are adding some of these

supplements back in.---

You need to go to these sites and look at the supplements they

suggest and work something up for your son---all these sites have

opinions but the majority of the supplements are the same---problem

is we don't know much about your son's problems

You hear others talk about that iodine test I would do that first--to

see if he is low in iodine---

Also use the www.ithyorid.com site as a guide with his diet in mind--

for example my daughter was not using salt--(low in iodine) she was

eating too much soy and all the wrong veggies (broccoli family)--she

added in sea veggies and so many others--

but in a 14 year old boy this is tough--but for selenium you can eat

brazil nuts--do a search on selenium and it shows you food that you

can add into it---selenium is essential for the conversion of t4 to

t3.

Also zinc is important--a chewable multiple might be good for him as

well---but you really need to know the kind of thyroid problem he has

and what he is missing in his diet--A ND is a great doctor for this--

if you can afford it I would take him to one of them!!!! really it

might be the best thing---it's difficult to do it this way---

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My 18 year old son is the same way--when after 7 years he had to

finally have an antibotic--he had to have the z-pack in a liquid--no

one could believe this, not even the drug store--needless to say I

had to pay double to get the dose for him. After being misdiagnosied

and losing 15 lbs they finally realized he was ill. That was last flu

season--he was really sick missing 6 days of school in two weeks time

because he could not get well--he was sick almost a month. Anyway I

know what you are dealing with.

There is still stuff we can do---you son sounds very very adrenal-=--

we should work on that first---get chewable vitamin C's--get in him 2

grams a day with food---he has to get well

find chewable multiple--centruim has them now--and I even found at

trader joe's---(a powder multiple that you mix in water)

He can take chewable zinc---need that almost everyday---need to look

up dosage for him---no more than 40mgs. I believe---check on it for

sure ok---

He will need selenium though and that you can get from those brazil

nuts he will need to eat 4 a day --after a while back it down to 2 a

day since I don't think selenium can be found in a chewable---look on

you multiple just to be sure---he needs 200mcgs a day. this converts

t4 to t3.

adrenal people seem to have this problem---but you know I am guessing

here.

If he can't take something everyday don't panic every other is fine

as long as it's something --

do that iodine test to see if he is low in that as well--I'll find

you the info on it

let see what else---oh adrenals need B vitamins---found in that

multiple.

And isocort are these tiny little pills ---so tiny --he can take

them --get him two in the morning and two at dinner--this is adrenal

glandulars---they really work---almost like cortisol but not as

strong---M takes 4 a day.

Also if he will take adrenal energy pills--I know he may not---has

everything he needs --even if he has to chew it 2 a day will really

help (from immune.com)

this will get him started on his adrenals--trust me here it does work-

-M did very well on all the adrenal stuff. She still takes it---If I

think of something else I'll let you know---what links do you need---

tell me and I'll get them for you---tina

> Preston was not tested for antibodies, so I don't know if he is

Hashi's or

> not.

> I wasn't tested for antibodies either. Does it really matter?

> How is the treatment different?

> I guess the RT3 will be helpful too.

> I guess I had better ask the doc to do these at his next draw.

>

> It's interesting how his allergies have become worse, the heavier

he gets.

> Currently he weighs a couple of pounds more than I do.

> And it seems that he is sensitive to everything and therefore I do

not

> like to give him too many supplements.

> He has an over-sensitive gag reflex too, and he won't swallow pills

> without a major fight.

>

> Chriss.

>

>

>

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It is different according to what you are missing in nutrients---that

is why you need to do that iodine test first. Hashi patients usually

are not low in iodine--they need different supplements--but it does

seem that adrenal patients are lacking the same supplements--you

really don't want to take what you are not lacking---www.ithyroid.com

is the site that shows you what you may or may not be lacking.

having a goiter is also an indication in regards to

iodine/copper/zinc and selienum ---too much and too little will cause

a goiter---have to balance this between all of these is very

important.

Having a auto-immune tells you ---this is going to be a bit more

difficult with more problems in the future if you don't keep up with

proper dosing---proper supplements---other auto-immune illness will

creep up on you.

If you were to go back and read Shelia's health issues you would see

many of them. Thank-goodness armour has help a lot of them but with

all her allergies I am sure she has adrenal problems as well.

(70-80% of thyroid patients have adrenals---very few do not---so this

is as equally as serious guys and girls)

Also when your thyroid meds need increasing or somehow they are not

working---guess what---it's your adrenals--- and I and I use

her name a lot and hopefully she does not mind---but she taught me

some of this---and thank-god that she did because my daughter has

both!!!

She would not be in school now if she were not on adrenal and thyroid

products----I don't know what I would have done if she did not steer

me in the right direction!!!!!

Anyway I know it's difficult beleive me---I know--I am treating my

kid 5 hours away from me---and it's not easy because she is so

stubborn when it comes to her health and believing in mom!!!!!

anyway your son---Chriss you can't wait on treating him---does he

sweat?? no sweating is a big sign you know---very tired, can't

think??---gaining weight easily?? gets a cold easy---my son does

always has---he take C every day 1-2 grams---but really more when he

gets sick---some days he misses those chewables--but he drinks OJ and

cranberry as much as I give him a day---

It's so hard to see your kid sick---so hard. He has a long life you

must get him well. Take his blood pressure and body temp. when he

wakes up and throughout the day.

M's used to be--are you ready---95 and 96 degrees --we were happy

when it was 97---on all the stuff she finally hit 98

blood pressure---80/40 that was her BP and now it's 100/60 a big

difference!!!!!!!!

doctors never worried about this---only her anatomy teacher once said

when she was 17 --why is your BP so low---she said oh it must be

because I swim---little did we know back then!!!!We could of caught

this early.

> Preston was not tested for antibodies, so I don't know if he is

Hashi's or

> not.

> I wasn't tested for antibodies either. Does it really matter?

> How is the treatment different?

> I guess the RT3 will be helpful too.

> I guess I had better ask the doc to do these at his next draw.

>

> It's interesting how his allergies have become worse, the heavier

he gets.

> Currently he weighs a couple of pounds more than I do.

> And it seems that he is sensitive to everything and therefore I do

not

> like to give him too many supplements.

> He has an over-sensitive gag reflex too, and he won't swallow pills

> without a major fight.

>

> Chriss.

>

>

>

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you really think all adrenal is also auto-immune?? I know there is

autoimmune adrenal, thought it was rare. I've posted info on it once

before. M was only tested for two types of this. Uggg

>

> If he is hypothyroid then he is hypo. He should be treated based

on

> symptoms!! I don't think it matters what kind of hypo he is.

Autoimmune

> is adrenal, easy to treat. Docs just don't know this.

> Gracia

>

>

> > Preston was not tested for antibodies, so I don't know if he is

Hashi's or

> > not.

> > I wasn't tested for antibodies either. Does it really matter?

> > How is the treatment different?

> > I guess the RT3 will be helpful too.

> > I guess I had better ask the doc to do these at his next draw.

> >

> > It's interesting how his allergies have become worse, the heavier

he gets.

> > Currently he weighs a couple of pounds more than I do.

> > And it seems that he is sensitive to everything and therefore I

do not

> > like to give him too many supplements.

> > He has an over-sensitive gag reflex too, and he won't swallow

pills

> > without a major fight.

> >

> > Chriss.

> >

> >

> >