Re: Tina, help with hot flashes

[Guest guest]

Gee thanks for all the info from you guys--I didn't want to bring it

up since I thought and how could I think such a thing that it didn't

have anything to do with our problems--but no I read this in one of

my old posts in my email--and then I did that BP test I told you guys

about--also there is a eye test as well--it's in the book

adrenalfatigue--from Dr. --not of 's disease

(another ) http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/

anyway I did try the soy isoflavones before and it didn't seem to do

anything--maybe all along it's adrenal??? ( or I took the wrong

stuff/bad batch) after all they are the ones with the sex hormones--

so I am on my second day now of my adrenal support and a adrenal

glandular and I will take one pill of each a day till next period and

see how I do.

I had headaches this time too--really bad ones--gee and as soon as

the p is over with it starts back up. This is really making me nuts--

So lets see how I do. As for vitmain E I do take a multi and I eat a

lot of nuts---haha!!! always watching the carbs--but I do eat fruit

just not a lot of them.

It really wears you out these hot flashes---mine is like a burning in

my face that won't go away--unless I take advil that ususally helps!!!

thanks for the suggestions--I always look into them--tina

-- In hypothyroidism , " hendersonteacher "

<hendersonteacher@y...> wrote:

> I too have had and still have an occasional hot flash. I am

> currently taking 400mg of Vitamin E along with a multi which has

> some vitamin E. This week I added another 400 mg of Vitamin E

> daily. I don't see that the vitamin E alone will get rid of them,

> maybe.

>

> Low estrogen is what causes the hot flashes. Progesterone will not

> work for the hot flashes for me either, in fact it makes them

> worse. I take soy isoflavones for the hot flashes. It gets rid of

> them in minutes. I break a 40 mg tablet into fourths and take one

> fourth at a time. Usually 2 a day. I know the research says soy

is

> bad for hypo. Hot flashes are bad for the psychie. I figure if I

> titrate the synthroid for using the soy then it shouldn't hurt too

> much. Summertime in Mississippi is not a good time for hot flashes

> either. Joan

[Guest guest]

>

> anyway I did try the soy isoflavones before and it didn't seem to

do

> anything--maybe all along it's adrenal???

I have gotten some bottles that didn't do anything also. Since they

aren't controlled well it can happen. I only buy the brand I have

been using. As to natural hormone or bioidentical hormone, all that

I have checked on use soy as the base. Be aware.

>

> I had headaches this time too--really bad ones--gee and as soon as

> the p is over with it starts back up. This is really making me

nuts--

Are the headaches above your eyes or in the lower back of your

head? I found the eye headaches to be relieved with soy and the

back of the head with progesterone. With progesterone be aware it

comes in different strengths also. You need 400 mg per ounce. I

saw one at the health store that was 5 mg per ounce. Bet it doesn't

do anything!

Interesting comment on the Hashi's being connected to estrogen

dominance. In 1999, I had several episodes of severe pms, pain and

heavy flow. I started progesterone and lost 20 pounds weight

without changing the diet. Finally became estrogen deficient(hot

flashes) and added the soy. Tooled along with no other major

problems for 4 years and then began adding weight again. Guess

there was a connection and relief for the adrenals when I added some

hormone.

Joan

> >

> > Low estrogen is what causes the hot flashes. Progesterone will

not

> > work for the hot flashes for me either, in fact it makes them

> > worse. I take soy isoflavones for the hot flashes. It gets rid

of

> > them in minutes. I break a 40 mg tablet into fourths and take

one

> > fourth at a time. Usually 2 a day. I know the research says

soy

> is

> > bad for hypo. Hot flashes are bad for the psychie. I figure if

I

> > titrate the synthroid for using the soy then it shouldn't hurt

too

> > much. Summertime in Mississippi is not a good time for hot

flashes

> > either. Joan

[Guest guest]

Joan,

You wrote:

> ... I figure if I

> titrate the synthroid for using the soy then it shouldn't hurt too

> much. ...

The other issue with soy is that the beneficial isoflavones chemically

mimic estrogen. That is what makes them effective against the flashes.

You are effectively self-prescribing estrogen replacement therapy, with

the various disadvantages that implies, particularly increased breast

and ovarian cancer risks. You might want to take just enough to adjust

the hot flashes to a tolerable level and try to taper off the dosage if

they become less severe.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

thanks for the info--headaches are in the front and forehead area.

interesting all the tweaking you have had to do!!! I just can't wait

till this is over with---whoever said menopause should be a certain

touchy feeling time of your life never had hot flashes--!!!!!!! And

two P's in one month's time!!! my body is like on overdrive!!!!

UGGGGGG

> >

> > anyway I did try the soy isoflavones before and it didn't seem to

> do

> > anything--maybe all along it's adrenal???

>

> I have gotten some bottles that didn't do anything also. Since

they

> aren't controlled well it can happen. I only buy the brand I have

> been using. As to natural hormone or bioidentical hormone, all

that

> I have checked on use soy as the base. Be aware.

> >

> > I had headaches this time too--really bad ones--gee and as soon

as

> > the p is over with it starts back up. This is really making me

> nuts--

>

> Are the headaches above your eyes or in the lower back of your

> head? I found the eye headaches to be relieved with soy and the

> back of the head with progesterone. With progesterone be aware it

> comes in different strengths also. You need 400 mg per ounce. I

> saw one at the health store that was 5 mg per ounce. Bet it

doesn't

> do anything!

>

> Interesting comment on the Hashi's being connected to estrogen

> dominance. In 1999, I had several episodes of severe pms, pain and

> heavy flow. I started progesterone and lost 20 pounds weight

> without changing the diet. Finally became estrogen deficient(hot

> flashes) and added the soy. Tooled along with no other major

> problems for 4 years and then began adding weight again. Guess

> there was a connection and relief for the adrenals when I added

some

> hormone.

> Joan

>

> > >

> > > Low estrogen is what causes the hot flashes. Progesterone will

> not

> > > work for the hot flashes for me either, in fact it makes them

> > > worse. I take soy isoflavones for the hot flashes. It gets

rid

> of

> > > them in minutes. I break a 40 mg tablet into fourths and take

> one

> > > fourth at a time. Usually 2 a day. I know the research says

> soy

> > is

> > > bad for hypo. Hot flashes are bad for the psychie. I figure

if

> I

> > > titrate the synthroid for using the soy then it shouldn't hurt

> too

> > > much. Summertime in Mississippi is not a good time for hot

> flashes

> > > either. Joan