Re: Welcome to hypothyroidism@onelist.com

April 11, 1999

Hello,

My name is . I was diagnosed with hypothyroid

about 8 months ago. Am on Levothroid. Somedays I

feel fine, somedays I don't think its working. Have

one brother, 2 sisters that were hyperthyroid, after

surgery and/or the drink, are now hypo. Am not real

comfortable with the treatment so far. Would love to

treat it more naturally. One sister who does not have

problem with thyroid thought maybe taking kelp?

Thanks for starting a list.

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April 12, 1999

Hi --

Get your doctor to prescribe Armour, a natural desiccated thyroid

hormone.

Ardison wrote:

>

> From: Ardison <wabozo@...>

>

> Hello,

> My name is . I was diagnosed with hypothyroid

> about 8 months ago. Am on Levothroid. Somedays I

> feel fine, somedays I don't think its working. Have

> one brother, 2 sisters that were hyperthyroid, after

> surgery and/or the drink, are now hypo. Am not real

> comfortable with the treatment so far. Would love to

> treat it more naturally. One sister who does not have

> problem with thyroid thought maybe taking kelp?

>

> Thanks for starting a list.

>

> _________________________________________________________

>

April 12, 1999

In a message dated 4/11/1999 1:01:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

wabozo@... writes:

<< Would love to

treat it more naturally. One sister who does not have

problem with thyroid thought maybe taking kelp? >>

What natural options are there?

April 12, 1999

At 07:20 12.04.99 EDT, you wrote:

>From: IGETNEWS2U@...

>What natural options are there?

Here are some natural options:

- bowel cleanse

- dentalcleanse

- liver/gallbladder cleanse

- diet improvement and supplements/whole foods: (flaxseed oil, unrefined

foods, seaweed (Kombu, Kelp, Wakame, Hiziki, Arame, Nori, Dulse ...),

vegetable juices, Unrefined sea salt, colloidal minerals, clean water,

blood type diet,...

- improvement of digestion/absorption

- improvement lifestyle/thoughts/actions/environment

- physical activity, breathing cleaner fresh air,...

- house cleanse

- mental , emotional, spiritual cleanse

......

I would work on removing the cause of hypothyroidism.

I have never met anyone suffering of hypothyroidism, who did not " collect "

at least 6 of those common causes:

Most people have had all of them:

1. Amalgam or nickel crowns (mercury and nickel poisoning )

2. Root Canal filling

3. poor digestion and absorption

3. Omega 3, LNA and other essential nutrients deficiency

4. Iodine and trace minerals imbalance/deficiency

5. Excess in consumption of refined sugar, refined salt, aspartame, MSG,

food aditives (E-numbers), carcinogens, medications, refined flour, refined

oils, margarine,

6. General nutritional deficiency

7. Intestinal parasites

8. Stress, suppression, mental and emotional

9. Gallstones in the liver and gallbladder, high bowel toxicity

10. Sedentary lifestyle

.....

June 26, 1999

Thank you for the welcome!

I'll be happy to tell you where I've come from and where I am now.

Five years ago, I was so wasted from fibromyalgia and arthritis' overall

pain and inadequate sleep that I could no longer hold a thought in my

head.

I remember reading the same page over and over, just trying to get it to

'stick'.

I'll just list the rest that I can remember:

Arthritis, especially hands and hips

TMJ

Hypothyroid condition

Weak wrist

Frozen Shoulder

Insomnia--neck pain so bad I couldn't lay my head down on the pillow

Poor bladder control

Chronic nasal back drip

PMS

Heavy, painful menses

Chronic Fatigue

Three cancerous breast lumpectomies and two courses of radiation

Throat would close off--had to constantly sip water

Bruise really easily

Uterine fibroids

Positive PAP smears

Several pre-cancerous uterine episodes ----and had the affected cells

frozen off

twice

Massive gas and digestive problems

Itchy skin

Allergies to pollen, animal dander, pollution, fumes, feathers, dust,

many

foods

Chronic colon problems--6 months of diarrhea; two colonoscopies

Constipation

ALL THESE SYMPTOMS DEVELOPED ON A LACTO-VEGETARIAN DIET!

THAT CLEARLY

WASN'T ENOUGH FOR ME.

Constipation coats the intestines so nutrients are poorly absorbed and

holds

ingested foods so long that they turn to poison which is reabsorbed into

the

bloodstream. I believe that caused the rest of my problems. Dr. Paavo

Airola ['There is a Cure for Arthritis'] found a very strong link between

constipation and arthritis. I imagine the same applies to fibromyalgia,

candida--maybe all the 'chronics'. How about you?? I'm curious

about the link between constipation and other diseases. I'd appreciate

hearing.

With a letter from my doctor, I applied for Disability.

Then I met a guy who was fascinated by my predicament because he had had

a

life-diminishing body situation, also---and pulled himself out of it by

his

dietary choices. He read books to me about individuals who had guided

his

choices. He said he thought I could gain paradise health by gradually

shifting to just raw fruits and starchless vegetables, and that he would

do

the diet with me.

At the same time as was going-- " Raw! Raw! Raw! " , an Ayurvedic

practitioner was soothingly reading my pulses, and telling me that my

constitution wasn't hardy enough to eat raw foods--that I needed cooked

food, warmth and sweetness in my life! Which would YOU have been drawn

to?

, of course! He'd actually HEALed on what he was

offering---NObody

else was offering anything but temporary relief.

So I added raw fruits and vegetables to what I was already eating---and

had

a massive gas attack! But I held to it, drinking up to a gallon of

peppermint tea with maple syrup a day, which did help alot. Then, about

two and a

half months after starting, my elimination kicked in, the gas passed,

[chortle] and my body had made the switch. What I did was to gradually

add

more organic, non-starchy vegetables, green, leafy salads and fruits to

my

diet, and ONE BY ONE, eliminate hard-to-digest and clogging-up type

foods

to which I was accustomed such as all salt, grains, dairy products, meat,

fish, tofu. All these foods clog up your system, back up into your

circulation and create problems with all the systems of your body. This

switch was completed over several months. For the past four and a half

years, I

have eaten organic fruits and vegetables and NOTHING ELSE. It was 80% raw

the

first few years; for the past three months and going strong, it's been

all raw.

Wouldn't recommend doing it faster than feels right! I'd tried all raw

out briefly now

and then, earlier, but for me, it took until now to feel great,

physically, with all raw.

I'm weighing in a little light these days, but when my body is cleared of

everything it

wants to unload, I am confident that I will be at whatever is my optimum

weight.

I know that it sounds very radical to have no concentrated protein or

starch

in my diet, but these foods are difficult to digest, are constipating,

and

will bring your health down if you don't have a strong enough digestive

fire

to break them down. When your health is compromised, you need to get

back

to the basics concerning food choices: fresh fruits and starchless

vegetables.

THESE HAVE THE MOST AVAILABLE, MOST EASILY ASSIMILATABLE

PROTEIN ON EARTH! [They also provide the richest nutrition in all other

areas as well. So you don't need as much as is usually recommended.]

I've

come to accept from many knowledgeable sources that cooking proteins and

starches renders them nearly impossible to digest--that they sit

fermenting

and rotting because they can't be moved out quickly enough.

Recently, I added flax seed oil to my daily salad for the essential fatty

acids. I added flax seed, soaked overnight, to further improve

elimination.

..

I FEEL THAT ALL FORMS OF CONSTIPATION INCLUDING DIARRHEA ARE

THE BASIS OF DISEASE.

I might mention that over the years, I had been advised by an herbalist

to use

several teas; by an acupuncturist, several tinctures, homeopathic

remedies

and ointments; by a Chinese Medicine practitioner, chicken, Chinese

medicines and teas; by M.D.s, an armload of vitamin and mineral

supplements.

..Seeing no dent in my ill health, I dumped all forms of supplements when

I

began to include fruits and vegetables and to eliminate cooked starches

and

the last vestiges of animal proteins from my diet.

My health has made quantum leaps for the better! I'm climbing mountains;

can do hefty physical work; dance vigorously several times a week. My

concentration is much improved, though 'mind fog' perhaps will be the

last

vestige of fibromyalgia to go.

A daily salad rich in dark greens such as dinosaur (or 'black') kale,

sprouts, spinach, arugula, boy choy--with freshly made avocado/lemon

juice/scallion/garlic dressing is what I added to my diet which made the

most difference of all. I also juice vegetables, orange juice and wheat

grass

daily. Twice or three times a day, I use reverse-osmosis water that I

purify further

in the sun to make a quart of lemonade made with juice of one

organic lemon and 1 T. organic raw honey.

I bone-deep believed that these changes would pull me through! Surely my

mindset is powerfully working for me. It certainly kept me going through

days when I needed the boost of a home colonic or during an arthritic

flare

up. Reports from others on this path offer reassurance that flare ups

are a

sign of healing. Healing looks like the disease, only for a briefer

period

of time. If you are eating harmful things or are burdening yourself with

stress, it may be disease. If nothing harmful is going in, most likely,

it is a flare up that will quickly pass.

As far as I'm concerned, THIS IS THE CURE FOR FIBROMYALGIA! I have

nothing to sell or gain. I'm sharing this because I want to offer what

has already

been a miracle in my life. I'd be glad to share information

sources--books,

menus, my personal recipes, etc., if this approach appeals to anyone.

This way of life was a joint (pun intended!) effort with my friend,

. Having a

juicing buddy with whom I prepared meals and bought in bulk was

immeasurably

supportive. But what it really comes down to is doing it for your own

life, in awe of

having a body this time around.

We're in this together. Have heart! I believe you too can heal!

Jean

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June 28, 1999

Thanks for the welcome!

Fresh news on the 'Recovering from Hypothyroidism' front! :

I just had a THS [Thyroid Hormonal Stimulation Or Something To That

Effect] blood test, and I tested .4 , when the normal scale is .4 to

5.0!!!

In January of last year, I quit taking thyroid [Armour's] for nine

months. The THS tested at 75.0 So, since my body was probably being

stressed to produce all that stimulation, I went back on Armour's.

Around February of this year, THS level tested at 35.0.

My understanding is that I will be able, by caring for my self properly

[i'm eating only vegetables, with lots of fresh OJ, wheatgrass and a few

fruits; working on my emotional/spiritual well-being and getting in lots

of vigorous hiking and dancing!] and also taking the minimum doses of

thyroid, my thyroid gland may be encouraged to produce normal levels!

Have others of us experienced a recovering thyroid gland, already?

I'm excited!!

NaturalHighJean

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June 30, 1999

Hi Lila (or HaturallyHighJean)

I'm glad you're feeling so good. Can I just check a couple of details. Has

your TSH reduced while your were OFF or ON the Armour thyroid medication?

If you were on the Armour, I would expect your TSH to go down because of the

medication. However, if you were not on medication and your TSH went down,

please tell us more, for example - where you got the idea of the diet.

Also you appear to be able to lead a very energetic life, great! Again is

this on or off medication?

Have you ever been exhausted and if so what did you do about it. Did taking

it easy or taking more exercise help??

I've radically changed my diet over the past six months and eat a lot of raw

salad food. To anyone considering a change I would recommend doing it

gradually.

Any references, name of books would be gratefully received.

All the best

Anne

>I just had a THS [Thyroid Hormonal Stimulation Or Something To That

>Effect] blood test, and I tested .4 , when the normal scale is .4 to

>5.0!!!

>In January of last year, I quit taking thyroid [Armour's] for nine

>months. The THS tested at 75.0 So, since my body was probably being

>stressed to produce all that stimulation, I went back on Armour's.

>Around February of this year, THS level tested at 35.0.

July 20, 1999

Hello, Anne!

The TSH reduced while I was on Armour. Now I'm on a greatly reduced

dosage--down from 130mg to 90 mg. When Ive been on 90 for 2 months, I'll

test again and see if I can cut that dosage in half--over and over, till

it's down to nothing.

Even during the 8 or 9 month period while I was taking nothing, I was

climbing mountains and dancing hard for hours at a time, a couple times a

week!

When worry or 'things moving down' keep me awake at night, my energy the

next day is nil. As soon as my work is done, I rest. Not at all

necessary when I have slept.

Arnold Ehret's 'Mucusless Diet Healing System' is the backbone of my

eating plan and I highly recommend it.

Salad and 'Sauri Rolls' are mainly what I eat. Figure I can't go wrong

with dark, leafy greens to clear out a body highly acidized since birth!

Wierdly tho, I have been troubled by scant, dehydrated eliminations for

several weeks! I believe that is caused by things laid down years ago

being stirred up by all the alkaline food and green etc. juices I make.

But I can't figure out why it's not moving out fast enough.

NaturalHighJean

On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:28:34 +0100 " Anne Lloyd " <anne.york@...>

writes:

>From: " Anne Lloyd " <anne.york@...>

>

>Hi Lila (or HaturallyHighJean)

>

>I'm glad you're feeling so good. Can I just check a couple of details.

>Has

>your TSH reduced while your were OFF or ON the Armour thyroid

>medication?

>

>If you were on the Armour, I would expect your TSH to go down because

>of the

>medication. However, if you were not on medication and your TSH went

>down,

>please tell us more, for example - where you got the idea of the

>diet.

>

>Also you appear to be able to lead a very energetic life, great! Again

>is

>this on or off medication?

>

>Have you ever been exhausted and if so what did you do about it. Did

>taking

>it easy or taking more exercise help??

>

>I've radically changed my diet over the past six months and eat a lot

>of raw

>salad food. To anyone considering a change I would recommend doing it

>gradually.

>

>Any references, name of books would be gratefully received.

>

>All the best

>

>Anne

>

>>I just had a THS [Thyroid Hormonal Stimulation Or Something To That

>>Effect] blood test, and I tested .4 , when the normal scale is .4 to

>>5.0!!!

>>In January of last year, I quit taking thyroid [Armour's] for nine

>>months. The THS tested at 75.0 So, since my body was probably being

>>stressed to produce all that stimulation, I went back on Armour's.

>>Around February of this year, THS level tested at 35.0.

>

>---------------------------

October 4, 1999

Hello,

I took a break from the list for awhile but I'm back. Still having problems

with being hypo but it's getting better. Going on two years now. I have

problems getting the correct dosage of medication. I am currently taking Armour

and boy does the medicine bottle stink on that one. Six weeks ago my TSH was

30. It has been higher than that but that was while I was on 60mg of Armour.

Anyone else out there take Armour? I'd like to know what strength of dose most

people take. Now I am on 90mg daily and doing a lot better but started having

trouble sleeping so I started taking it at night and now I get up early in the

morning ready to go. It seems like it takes awhile to get into my system.

Would love to hear some feedback from others.

Thanks,

October 4, 1999

Hi I am taking 90 mg of armour aday also.It seems to keep me somewhat ok,

but I'm still over weight and very tired in the day , insomnia at night. all

my joints ache and mucles cramp.I had all those things pluss heart

pulpitations and panic attachs before I started taking the armour so I am

greatfull for it but would like to get well. I try to not think about it

because I've been doing this for so long and no one likes a complainer. I

really have been miserable for a long time though. I started taking

Immunoguard and Thyrodine about fove days ago so it's to soon to know how

it's going to work for me. I'll keep posting on my progress. Best wishes,

Sabra

>Hello,

>

>I took a break from the list for awhile but I'm back. Still having

>problems with being hypo but it's getting better. Going on two years now.

>I have problems getting the correct dosage of medication. I am currently

>taking Armour and boy does the medicine bottle stink on that one. Six

>weeks ago my TSH was 30. It has been higher than that but that was while I

>was on 60mg of Armour. Anyone else out there take Armour? I'd like to

>know what strength of dose most people take. Now I am on 90mg daily and

>doing a lot better but started having trouble sleeping so I started taking

>it at night and now I get up early in the morning ready to go. It seems

>like it takes awhile to get into my system. Would love to hear some

>feedback from others.

>

>Thanks,

>

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