Re: oats, ezekiel bread, grains in general

[Guest guest]

Dear Suz,

You are absolutely terrific with food tips and ideas. Thanks so much.

I agree with you about " no grains " period when beginning the diet. I

was on the diet for 6 months with " no grains of any kind " before

having buckwheat cake (no milk, yeast, sugar, etc. in it).

Commercial sprouted breads have the phytates removed which blocks

mineral absorption but they are usually moldy unless you make them at

home.

Cheerio Suz,

Bee

[Guest guest]

hi bee,

thanks for that, i really think its the easiest way, staying off of

all grains, to get things started.

what you mentioned in another post, about those foods causing

cravings for more of the same foods, IS SO TRUE. if i eat grains or

grain based foods, i find that my desire for the other food groups

turns off, and all i can think of eating is more grain based foods!

its wierd, but true. if i eat bread, or crackers or pasta, or the

like; i lose the desire to have vegetables and proteins at my next

meal. all i can think of is to eat bread, pasta etc.

its like a different kind of hunger, not so much a " normal hunger "

that occurs when the stomach is empty and the body is ready to take

more fuel. its more like an intense craving, more mental than

physical. almost like a drug. yuck!

better for me to keep my distance!

~ suz

> I agree with you about " no grains " period when beginning the diet.

I

> was on the diet for 6 months with " no grains of any kind " before

> having buckwheat cake (no milk, yeast, sugar, etc. in it).

>

> Commercial sprouted breads have the phytates removed which blocks

> mineral absorption but they are usually moldy unless you make them

at

> home.

[Guest guest]

Hi Suz,

>>>about those foods causing cravings for more of the same foods, IS

SO TRUE. if i eat grains or grain based foods, i find that my desire

for the other food groups turns off, and all i can think of eating is

more grain based foods! its wierd, but true.

==>That happens to me too. lo? With this recent bout with candida I

got through the worst part drinking almond/egg milk 3 times a day in

between meals. It was quick and easy to make, and was a tasty

alternative to those " too convenient " grain snacks. But there was a

period of time I fought my sugar cravings like mad - mostly for ice

cream. I'd even promise myself I wouldn't buy another container but

I'd give in. Finally I was able to overcome that too by being

strictly off " all " sugars and grains. It was amazing how quickly the

cravings diminished.

Now I can go to kitchen for a snack, and like you, make a tasty

salad, without craving sugars and grains. It is such freedom to not

have cravings isn't it?

Luv,

Bee

[Guest guest]

hiya cindy!

in response to your question, i believe that bee typed this statement:

> " Commercial sprouted breads have the phytates removed which blocks

> mineral absorption but they are usually moldy unless you make them

at home. "

you wrote:

>This passage confuses me. I read that phytates need to be removed,

>it is phytates left in the bread inhibits the vitiamin and mineral

>absortion. That's why you srout the grain ,or soak it in a whey, or

>acid medium, to disolve the phytic acid that inhibits seed growth..

> Blinking in deep thought,

>

yes, grains contain something called phytic acid, in their bran,

which blocks mineral absorbtion. some grains also contain gluten,

which is a protein that is quite difficult to digest. most species of

animals which eat whole grains, have as many as 4 sotmachs, which do

the job of neutralizing the phytic acids. we have only one stomach,

so when we do consume grains, its best that they be soaked in warm

water (usually overnight) or sprouted, or fermented in a medium such

as whey. during this process, the grains are somewhat pre-digested,

and easier for our bodies to assimilate.

i think that what bee was saying in the previous post is that a

bread, like ezekiel, which has its ingredients sprouted before being

made into bread, is a better form of whole grains than many that are

on the market. but its true, as she said, that it molds very quickly

on a store bread shelf (i've seen it countless times). any moldy

foods are an instant enemy of the candida diet. plus, its a grain,

which is not a particularly beneficial food for an anti-candida

program.

my advice to those beginning the candida diet is to stay off ANY form

of grain foods: even sprouted, soaked, etc.

eating grains has a tendency to make it more difficult to adhere to a

truly benefical anti-candida program, as the ingestion of grains

tends to create cravings for more of the same foods. contrary to

popular belief (as i believe you are aware), whole grains are not

*needed* for a healthy diet. and grains, sprouted or not, are high in

carbohydrates, which will deter the effects of the beneficial aspects

of the anti-candida diet outlined here.

hope that makes a bit more sense & thanks for questioning...

~ suz