Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Hi! Thanks to all who responded to my question about die-off symptoms. They are intense. Now, I've stopped the Fungal Defense, though. Because Dr. Janson said the probiotics in it weren't very strong. He didn't mention a thing about the oregano oil--I'm not sure he knows about it or believes in it. I think it was doing wonders. However, I may switch to Nystatin. Dr. Janson recommended Nystatin. I'm curious what those of you on the list think. Which is better? Or, what is the difference between using Nystatin and using oregano oil? I plan to use one or the other, plus acidophilus and bifido (whatever it's called, you know what I mean). Here's my assessment of Dr. Janson. Have you heard of him?--He's written some famous books about vitamin supplements. In my opinion, he is not a good practitioner. Not at all. I left his office infuriated. I experienced him as self-centered, expensive, and too general in his treatment plan. His life centers around lecturing, book writing, and his website. He talked a lot about himself and how no sugar, exercise, etc. is so healthy and why everyone needs it and should avoid processed foods and sugar. Stuff we all know from reading women's magazines. I had two contacts with him. 1. First, a phone consult for an hour for $250. Before the phone consult, I had filled out 10 pages of medical history forms he sent to me. During the consult he gave me his general spiel about diet and exercise and what the supplements help with. He emailed me pdf files, one with a supplement plan for me, plus his diet and exercise articles. Ok. I started most of the supplements. But some of them I didn't want. I have sleep apnea, but don't need the supplement for sleep. I wanted a more specific diagnosis. I'd hoped his trained eye would see connections among my symptoms and medical history so that he could provide an insightful diagnosis (candida, adrenal function problem, chronic fatigue syndrome, all of these, or something else?). I wanted resolution to my debilitating fatigue and chronic symptoms. What I got was a supplement each symptom. 2. Yesterday was my in-person appointment with him. I got lost finding the office and was 20 minutes late for a 30-minute appointment. I called both of his phone numbers to say I was late, but couldn't reach him. I arrived, he said we have 10 minutes. I asked about the $125 fee. He said that he had to wait there for me....(meaning I owed him the whole fee). I expected him to offer some alternative. Perhaps a reduced fee for the 10 minutes, or to schedule another 20 minutes another time, or 20 minutes of email or phone consult time. He offered nothing. His next client was late, so he spent 25 minutes with me. What happened during the appointment? I interrupted his monologue at least twice, with questions about me. He talked about running after his surgery, doing a free consult for a diabetic woman who later he had dinner with and she ordered an ice cream Sunday. I jumped in with, " How long do I need to be on a sugar-free, wheat-free diet? " He said for 2-3 months, then test out those foods. Then he talked about going to the Harvard Club for his investor club meeting and they'd have dinner and he wouldn't eat the dessert but would order fruit. He asked what I wanted to know. I said, " Well years ago I had mono, I was diagnosed for sleep apnea a few years ago... " He jumped in, " You told me that in our phone consult. I know that. What else do you need to know? " . Ok, clearly he wasn't going to give me a minute or two to work up to my point--wondering if I have chronic fatigue syndrom, or if it's candida, or what the diagnosis might be if there is one. The focus on money was disturbing. I'm scraping by financially and spent $400 on him ( plus $150 on supplements). Also disturbing-- why talk about his life so much? I was paying for this time to talk about me. He is a walking advertisement for himself but isn't skilled working with the individual client. What did he say that was useful? I probably have candida. I might feel worse at first if I do have candida and am taking Nystatin. He said my chronic sinusitis and IBS are from either food allergy to wheat/dairy or other food, or a sugar problem. He doesn't think blood tests for food allergy are accurate. The best way to find out is elimination. I wanted an assessment of any underlying problems, connections between symptoms that would leave to a specific diagnosis (it's yeast. or, it's wheat allergy. or, it's an adrenal function problem. or, it's all those things). Was I asking too much? Maybe I was. He may know what he's doing, but his bedside manner sucks. Ok, there is my rant. Thanks to all of you for listening. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Oh Ann Bless you, I think you've just been mugged. Unfortunately there's a lot of it goes on, it makes you wonder where they get their reputations from or if they tried hard then the fame went to their heads. Best wishes Lesley p.s. Perhaps he only sell Nystatin !!!!!!!!!!! [ ] die-off symptoms, visit with Dr. Janson Hi! Thanks to all who responded to my question about die-off symptoms. They are intense. Now, I've stopped the Fungal Defense, though. Because Dr. Janson said the probiotics in it weren't very strong. He didn't mention a thing about the oregano oil--I'm not sure he knows about it or believes in it. I think it was doing wonders. However, I may switch to Nystatin. Dr. Janson recommended Nystatin. I'm curious what those of you on the list think. Which is better? Or, what is the difference between using Nystatin and using oregano oil? I plan to use one or the other, plus acidophilus and bifido (whatever it's called, you know what I mean). Here's my assessment of Dr. Janson. Have you heard of him?--He's written some famous books about vitamin supplements. In my opinion, he is not a good practitioner. Not at all. I left his office infuriated. I experienced him as self-centered, expensive, and too general in his treatment plan. His life centers around lecturing, book writing, and his website. He talked a lot about himself and how no sugar, exercise, etc. is so healthy and why everyone needs it and should avoid processed foods and sugar. Stuff we all know from reading women's magazines. I had two contacts with him. 1. First, a phone consult for an hour for $250. Before the phone consult, I had filled out 10 pages of medical history forms he sent to me. During the consult he gave me his general spiel about diet and exercise and what the supplements help with. He emailed me pdf files, one with a supplement plan for me, plus his diet and exercise articles. Ok. I started most of the supplements. But some of them I didn't want. I have sleep apnea, but don't need the supplement for sleep. I wanted a more specific diagnosis. I'd hoped his trained eye would see connections among my symptoms and medical history so that he could provide an insightful diagnosis (candida, adrenal function problem, chronic fatigue syndrome, all of these, or something else?). I wanted resolution to my debilitating fatigue and chronic symptoms. What I got was a supplement each symptom. 2. Yesterday was my in-person appointment with him. I got lost finding the office and was 20 minutes late for a 30-minute appointment. I called both of his phone numbers to say I was late, but couldn't reach him. I arrived, he said we have 10 minutes. I asked about the $125 fee. He said that he had to wait there for me....(meaning I owed him the whole fee). I expected him to offer some alternative. Perhaps a reduced fee for the 10 minutes, or to schedule another 20 minutes another time, or 20 minutes of email or phone consult time. He offered nothing. His next client was late, so he spent 25 minutes with me. What happened during the appointment? I interrupted his monologue at least twice, with questions about me. He talked about running after his surgery, doing a free consult for a diabetic woman who later he had dinner with and she ordered an ice cream Sunday. I jumped in with, " How long do I need to be on a sugar-free, wheat-free diet? " He said for 2-3 months, then test out those foods. Then he talked about going to the Harvard Club for his investor club meeting and they'd have dinner and he wouldn't eat the dessert but would order fruit. He asked what I wanted to know. I said, " Well years ago I had mono, I was diagnosed for sleep apnea a few years ago... " He jumped in, " You told me that in our phone consult. I know that. What else do you need to know? " . Ok, clearly he wasn't going to give me a minute or two to work up to my point--wondering if I have chronic fatigue syndrom, or if it's candida, or what the diagnosis might be if there is one. The focus on money was disturbing. I'm scraping by financially and spent $400 on him ( plus $150 on supplements). Also disturbing-- why talk about his life so much? I was paying for this time to talk about me. He is a walking advertisement for himself but isn't skilled working with the individual client. What did he say that was useful? I probably have candida. I might feel worse at first if I do have candida and am taking Nystatin. He said my chronic sinusitis and IBS are from either food allergy to wheat/dairy or other food, or a sugar problem. He doesn't think blood tests for food allergy are accurate. The best way to find out is elimination. I wanted an assessment of any underlying problems, connections between symptoms that would leave to a specific diagnosis (it's yeast. or, it's wheat allergy. or, it's an adrenal function problem. or, it's all those things). Was I asking too much? Maybe I was. He may know what he's doing, but his bedside manner sucks. Ok, there is my rant. Thanks to all of you for listening. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Dear Ann, >>>However, I may switch to Nystatin. Dr. Janson recommended Nystatin. I'm curious what those of you on the list think. Which is better? Or, what is the difference between using Nystatin and using oregano oil? ===>As you may know I took nystatin powder for 2 1/2 years and I swear by it. The importance of using powder is that it kills candida on contact in the mouth, throat, esophagus, stomach & intestines (all along the digestive track). Now I'm using oregano oil, but I'm going to get a prescription for nystatin from my doctor next week. Oregano oil is not as versatile as nystatin because it is too strong for certain uses, i.e. sniffing for sinusitis, rinsing the mouth, douche, using in the eyes, etc. Start with 1/16th teaspoon twice a day, and gradually increase. Sometimes die-off symptoms increase at the start, but oddly enough they will decrease by increasing the dose, rather than by lowering it. >>>I plan to use one or the other, plus acidophilus and bifido (whatever it's called, you know what I mean). ===>I used Cal-dophilus and still do. >>>Here's my assessment of Dr. Janson. Have you heard of him?--He's written some famous books about vitamin supplements. In my opinion, he is not a good practitioner. Not at all. I left his office infuriated. I experienced him as self-centered, expensive, and too general in his treatment plan. ===>That's sad that Dr. Janson has lost his patient focus and has become too commercialized. >>>He said my chronic sinusitis and IBS are from either food allergy to wheat/dairy or other food, or a sugar problem. ===>Nystatin powder can really help your sinusitis. >>>He doesn't think blood tests for food allergy are accurate. The best way to find out is elimination. ===>Have you done the elimination procedure for identifying food allergies? If you need help with it a good chiropractor can often do muscle testing, or even get a good friend to learn the procedure. >>>I wanted an assessment of any underlying problems, connections between symptoms that would leave to a specific diagnosis (it's yeast. or, it's wheat allergy. or, it's an adrenal function problem. or, it's all those things). Was I asking too much? Maybe I was. ===>All roads lead to candida my friend. Concentrate on curing the candida and you won't have symptoms. I was allergic to all foods but 9 at one time. But all of my allergies dissipated, except for a minor few. ===>I highly recommend dry skin brushing for you - check out the files in the left side-bar for instructions. That appt. with Dr. Janson was so disappointing to you, maybe consider finding someone else who is more down-to-earth and realistic about candida. Take very good care. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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