H. Pylori bacteria can't survive in normal stomach acid

[Guest guest]

Dear Robin,

I had H. pylori too, starting when I was 14 years old. I suffered

from it off and on for many years, at a time when they thought it was

a nervous stomach caused by emotional problems. However, H. pylori

only occurs when the stomach acid is low and it cannot exist in

normal acid levels.

Check this out: http://www.acu-cell.com/dis-hpy.html

" H. Pylori is easily inhibited by raising stomach acid, or lowering

its pH, provided this is done before much damage is done by the bug,

which is the reason why people with normal acid levels are generally

asymptomatic and don't get ulcers unless they are on certain drugs or

consume large amounts of alcohol -- although moderate alcohol

consumption in itself also inhibits H. Pylori. Coffee consumption on

the other hand has been found to aggravate the symptoms of H. Pylori

infections.

Unfortunately, people with reduced acid levels oftentimes suffer from

what they assume is high stomach acid (heartburn, bloating, nausea,

frequent burping), and as a result frequently take antacids. By

doing so, they encourage greater H. Pylori activity and thus increase

the risk for ulcers or gastric cancers, with the bug also being

implicated for heart disease, gum disease, asthma, rosacea, and

chronic headaches or migraines as well. If patients had indeed high

acid levels (as some physicians still have them believe), then why do

symptoms quickly improve when acid levels are raised? "

You and this information has tweaked my curiosity so I may find out

more about stomach acids and what it kills and what it doesn't.

Take care,

Bee

> I love it. I'll buy the land!! Okay, you had the messed-up thyroid

(that

> sounded awful!!) but I had the messed up stomach. An ulcer

perforated it

> back in September. (I even have a photo of the hole!) I can tell

you beyond

> a shadow of a doubt that the stomach is supposed to have nothing in

it but a

> type of hydrochloric acid.

>

> Since most of our digestion (absorption) takes place in the small

intestine,

> the stomach's job is to churn up food and convert it into a " soup. "

It's

> called chyme. The chyme then goes into the small intestine where it

is

> absorbed.

>

> (My stomach had the evil H. Pylori bacteria in it -- that's what

caused my

> ulcer. It's the only thing able to live in that stomach acid and is

really

> really tough to get rid of. It's treatment is what started my

subsequent

> bacterial infection and then Candida woes.)

> ~Robin

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Good morning Bee,

I've read that about 70% of people carry H. Pylori bacteria to some degree

and there are many strains. Most cause few if any problems. Having lived in

Tokyo for several years I probably had a tough Asian strain?

In my case I had and still have good stomach acid. I have many problems but

that's certainly not been one.. A strong strain of H. Pylori simply put its

roots through the my strong stomach acid and made an ulcer in my stomach.

~Robin

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee, Pretty much everyone carries H. Pylori bacteria. There are many

strains. Some are tougher than others to control. Having lived in a

particularly unsanitary part of Tokyo for several years in the 70's I

probably have an Asian strain. Anyway, in my case I had and still have very

strong stomach acid. That has never been a problem. A strong strain of H.

Pylori can put its roots through strong stomach acid and make an ulcer if it

wants to. Trust me on this...

And remember this interesting line from the blood-types excerpt I quoted

earlier? " High levels of hydrochloric acid also make type O's less prone to

developing parasitic infections like Giardia, yet they are actually more

susceptible to infection by H. Pylori, the bacteria that has been found to

cause gastric ulcers. "

As I recall that the same author said that type A's might be more inclined

to have low stomach acid... So maybe, especially if the site you're

mentioning is European, the subjects of their surveys had type A blood? Who

knows.

Also, I'll be taking a break from the group for a few weeks. I got a job

(yay!) and I'm debt to my ears with all these ridiculous Candida expenses!

Good luck and know I'm thinking of you....

Warm regards,

~Robin