Guest guest Posted March 27, 2001 Report Share Posted March 27, 2001 Hi patty - I don't use those anymore.... about 15 years ago I last used nystatin.... i believe that there are alternatives .... i'm not 'against' people that do tho!! wendy Diflucan, Nystatin (and others,) Regarding your post on the use of antibiotics and how you are so against them, I was wondering what your feelings were on the use of Nystatin or Diflucan for systemic yeast? Patty Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2001 Report Share Posted March 27, 2001 " i'm listenin' up " liz - thanks for the info - i never said one time that nystatin was BAD,,, never said at all that it caused liver damage... never said ANYTHING... other than that I don't take it anymore ... my candida purge works very well... Sorry for the 'offense' ... i have many books saying nystatin is just *great* (if you can stand the bitter taste!) blessings wendy Re: Diflucan, Nystatin http://search.britannica.com/frm_redir.jsp?query=nystatin & redir=http://www.i nvent.org/book/book-text/14.html I wish many people on this list would listen up to taking nystatin. The link I posted above this letter tells, who invented it and where it comes from. Many people here think it will cause organ damage but it is not so. There are people who cannot tolerate it, like some can't tolerate certain foods. I read in one of my books that it is extremely rare that it could cause any organ damage problem, but 1 case was noted. Taking Tylenol can put you at greater risk for liver damage!! It is not in this article, but in another I read a few weeks back, that every amount of Nystatin you take in your mouth your body then dumps it out in the toilet. 100% It does not become absorbed by the stomach or gut. Natural it is. It worked very well for me. I took the powdered Nystatin. Even tho I didn't have the oral thrush it cleaned my system out very well. I do have this yeast in other parts of my body, side of my face, behind my eyes, sinuses-they began burning a few months ago. I feel this glob around the outside of my stomach and pain in the side of my colon/on the outside. Nystatin can't help me there. So far all of the systemic drugs are synthetic. Thats why it is such a risk. So far I havent found a natural approach removing my yeast that has developed beyond the digestive tract. I am currently taking colloidal silver and making another person rich. There are those persons on this list that has gotten great results with an all natural approach to fighting this yeast. But you have to decide this for yourself because many of us are not affected by the same strain of yeast. One thing that may help one person may not be suitable for the next. As far as to why can't you use this for long period of time, it's because yeast can build up resistance to your antifungal. It is suggested that you rotate your antifungal every 4 days. However, it took me 2 weeks on the Nystatin to get die-off. So talk that over with your doctor about rotation and what else to use. Start reading over the archives, this may help you develop other protocols. Good luck and keep posting. LIZ > > I thought Nystatin WAS natural? Please tell me what is wrong with > Nystatin.Why can't youuse this for long? I went to an Internist that > practises natural medicine...he told me I had to have it made up and I > did. Had to order it. > > Pearl (NY) > > > Country Living at it's finest > Countrylife > > > > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2001 Report Share Posted March 27, 2001 Patty: i used both of these drugs, mainly because when i was on them, there was not much information on an alternative route like there is today, my first die-off was with Nystatin, today i would not use them for to long, maybe a month than switch to herbs. Mog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2001 Report Share Posted March 27, 2001 What is wrong with Nystain? I had to send away to a special lab to make up this compound. Pearl (NY) Country Living at it's finest Countrylife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2001 Report Share Posted March 27, 2001 I have a hard time getting nystatin also. I am afraid to think of where I would be now if it weren't for taking nystatin and diflucan. These drugs have helped tremendously. I am grateful that I am able to get free diflucan through the Medicine Program. They help people who have a hard time paying for their prescriptions as long as you are not on public assistance of any kind. I have had the hardest time trying to get nystatin the same way but just finding a pharmacutical that even makes the drug is the hardest thing to find. Also, both these medications are quite expensive. It's aggravating that they have to cost so much because if you have candida as bad as I have it, you have to take so much of them for a long time, usually years as I have had to do. Re: Diflucan, Nystatin What is wrong with Nystain? I had to send away to a special lab to makeup this compound.Pearl (NY)Country Living at it's finestCountrylifeSend blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2001 Report Share Posted March 27, 2001 maybe a month than switch to herbs. Â Â Â Mog >> I thought Nystatin WAS natural? Please tell me what is wrong with Nystatin.Why can't youuse this for long? I went to an Internist that practises natural medicine...he told me I had to have it made up and I did. Had to order it. Pearl (NY) Country Living at it's finest Countrylife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2001 Report Share Posted March 27, 2001 Have you looked into ordering from Mexico? LI > [Original Message] > From: BOGS <lcyr@...> > <candidiasis > > Date: 3/27/01 1:13:46 PM > Subject: Re: Diflucan, Nystatin > > I have a hard time getting nystatin also. I am afraid to think of where I would be now if it weren't for taking nystatin and diflucan. These drugs have helped tremendously. > I am grateful that I am able to get free diflucan through the Medicine Program. They help people who have a hard time paying for their prescriptions as long as you are not on public assistance of any kind. I have had the hardest time trying to get nystatin the same way but just finding a pharmacutical that even makes the drug is the hardest thing to find. Also, both these medications are quite expensive. It's aggravating that they have to cost so much because if you have candida as bad as I have it, you have to take so much of them for a long time, usually years as I have had to do. > > > Re: Diflucan, Nystatin > > > What is wrong with Nystain? I had to send away to a special lab to make > up this compound. > > Pearl (NY) > > > Country Living at it's finest > Countrylife > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2001 Report Share Posted March 27, 2001 >maybe a month than switch to herbs. Mog >> >I thought Nystatin WAS natural? Please tell me what is wrong with >Nystatin. I have heard that you have to watch your liver enzymes when you take Diflucan...not sure about Nystatin. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2001 Report Share Posted March 27, 2001 http://search.britannica.com/frm_redir.jsp?query=nystatin & redir=http://www.i nvent.org/book/book-text/14.html I wish many people on this list would listen up to taking nystatin. The link I posted above this letter tells, who invented it and where it comes from. Many people here think it will cause organ damage but it is not so. There are people who cannot tolerate it, like some can't tolerate certain foods. I read in one of my books that it is extremely rare that it could cause any organ damage problem, but 1 case was noted. Taking Tylenol can put you at greater risk for liver damage!! It is not in this article, but in another I read a few weeks back, that every amount of Nystatin you take in your mouth your body then dumps it out in the toilet. 100% It does not become absorbed by the stomach or gut. Natural it is. It worked very well for me. I took the powdered Nystatin. Even tho I didn't have the oral thrush it cleaned my system out very well. I do have this yeast in other parts of my body, side of my face, behind my eyes, sinuses-they began burning a few months ago. I feel this glob around the outside of my stomach and pain in the side of my colon/on the outside. Nystatin can't help me there. So far all of the systemic drugs are synthetic. Thats why it is such a risk. So far I havent found a natural approach removing my yeast that has developed beyond the digestive tract. I am currently taking colloidal silver and making another person rich. There are those persons on this list that has gotten great results with an all natural approach to fighting this yeast. But you have to decide this for yourself because many of us are not affected by the same strain of yeast. One thing that may help one person may not be suitable for the next. As far as to why can't you use this for long period of time, it's because yeast can build up resistance to your antifungal. It is suggested that you rotate your antifungal every 4 days. However, it took me 2 weeks on the Nystatin to get die-off. So talk that over with your doctor about rotation and what else to use. Start reading over the archives, this may help you develop other protocols. Good luck and keep posting. LIZ > > I thought Nystatin WAS natural? Please tell me what is wrong with > Nystatin.Why can't youuse this for long? I went to an Internist that > practises natural medicine...he told me I had to have it made up and I > did. Had to order it. > > Pearl (NY) > > > Country Living at it's finest > Countrylife > > > > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2001 Report Share Posted March 27, 2001 Sorry, I wasn't pointing to anyone in particular. It was easy to mail my post from the mail that was already in my mailbox. Still had the subject line. I get an overall negative feeling that Nystatin is taboo with this group. Living with this yeast disorder involves much anxiety and fear that goes with it. And what I am really afraid of is that many persons could get scared away from a very beneficial treatment. Especially when you have a doctor that understands the condition. (something I don't have) Powdered nystatin is bitter but not nearly as bitter as MSM! I am taking that and ugh!!! Taking them in juice is much better. And I had a colonscopy done and the drink I had to gulp down was the worst. One gallon of it! I really prefer tablets myself. LIZ > [Original Message] > From: D & WMcPhail <dwmcphail@...> > <candidiasis > > Date: 3/27/01 5:37:55 PM > Subject: Re: Diflucan, Nystatin > > " i'm listenin' up " liz - thanks for the info - i never said one time that > nystatin was BAD,,, never said at all that it caused liver damage... never > said ANYTHING... other than that I don't take it anymore ... my candida > purge works very well... > > Sorry for the 'offense' ... > > i have many books saying nystatin is just *great* (if you can stand the > bitter taste!) > > blessings > wendy > > Re: Diflucan, Nystatin > > > http://search.britannica.com/frm_redir.jsp?query=nystatin & redir=http://www.i > nvent.org/book/book-text/14.html > > I wish many people on this list would listen up to taking nystatin. > The link I posted above this letter tells, who invented it and where > it comes from. Many people here think it will cause organ damage but > it is not so. There are people who cannot tolerate it, like some > can't tolerate certain foods. I read in one of my books that it is > extremely rare that it could cause any organ damage problem, but 1 > case was noted. Taking Tylenol can put you at greater risk for liver > damage!! > > It is not in this article, but in another I read a few weeks back, > that every amount of Nystatin you take in your mouth your body then > dumps it out in the toilet. 100% It does not become absorbed by > the stomach or gut. Natural it is. > > It worked very well for me. I took the powdered Nystatin. Even tho > I didn't have the oral thrush it cleaned my system out very well. > I do have this yeast in other parts of my body, side of my face, > behind my eyes, sinuses-they began burning a few months ago. I feel > this glob around the outside of my stomach and pain in the side of > my colon/on the outside. Nystatin can't help me there. > > So far all of the systemic drugs are synthetic. Thats why it is > such a risk. So far I havent found a natural approach removing > my yeast that has developed beyond the digestive tract. I am currently > taking colloidal silver and making another person rich. > > There are those persons on this list that has gotten great results > with an all natural approach to fighting this yeast. But you have > to decide this for yourself because many of us are not affected by > the same strain of yeast. One thing that may help one person may > not be suitable for the next. > > As far as to why can't you use this for long period of time, it's > because yeast can build up resistance to your antifungal. It is > suggested that you rotate your antifungal every 4 days. However, > it took me 2 weeks on the Nystatin to get die-off. So talk that > over with your doctor about rotation and what else to use. Start > reading over the archives, this may help you develop other protocols. > Good luck and keep posting. > > LIZ > > > > > > > I thought Nystatin WAS natural? Please tell me what is wrong with > > Nystatin.Why can't youuse this for long? I went to an Internist that > > practises natural medicine...he told me I had to have it made up and I > > did. Had to order it. > > > > Pearl (NY) > > > > > > Country Living at it's finest > > Countrylife > > > > > > > > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to > UNSUBSCRIBE ! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2001 Report Share Posted March 27, 2001 I get my nystatin right here in my small town for $40 for a bottle of 100 count pills that lasts me a week. I used to take the powder and it was very effective but the taste was horrible and it's more convenient to take the pills for me. I find they work just fine even though I've read alot that most people take the powder. Re: Diflucan, Nystatin> > > What is wrong with Nystain? I had to send away to a special lab to make> up this compound.> > Pearl (NY)> > > Country Living at it's finest> Countrylife> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2001 Report Share Posted March 27, 2001 the reason most people take the powder is that it 'gets to' the colonies of candida in the throat area... and the esophagus... otherwise your pill will go immediately into the stomach and break down from there... wendy Re: Diflucan, NystatinLiz, Are the Nystatin pills helpful? That is what my doctor put me on. It seems like everyone is taking the powder. Thanks, Carol Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 Do you have a number for the mediacal assistance program? I am going on Difulcan soon and will qualify.. Thanks! Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 Am I taking the wrong nystatin--the pills??? It was easy for me to get... Please let me know.. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 Liz, Are the Nystatin pills helpful? That is what my doctor put me on. It seems like everyone is taking the powder. Thanks, Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 Thanks. Liz.. Where can i get powdered caprylic acid? I have never heard of it. It will help me. The pills don't seem to be working. I have a lot of digesive problems. Thanks so much for your time, knowledge, input!! I appreciate it Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 I felt more benefit from the powder too. I was given the tablets when my new doctor said she would rather do this because she " didn't know how " to prescribe the powder. UGH! Anyway the pills work well as long as your digestion is intact. >>>> My doctor prescribed the powder and told me to start with a small dose for the first week. He told me the size of the head of a tooth pick in a glass of water. The largest dose would end up being a 1/4 of a tsp. Pearl (NY) Country Living at it's finest Countrylife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 I felt more benefit from the powder too. I was given the tablets when my new doctor said she would rather do this because she " didn't know how " to prescribe the powder. UGH! Anyway the pills work well as long as your digestion is intact. I have found out that mine was not digesting my food properly so how do I expect to get full benefit from tablets I was taking. Makes sense? Give the pills a try, if you are not getting successful die-offs then ask for the powder. The pharmacist can explain to the doctor how to write the prescription. My doctor refused at this suggestion. The pills are great if you have to take them to work with you. The only drawback about the powder is that it must be kept refrigerated. It's some kind of antifungal critters and if left at room temperature, they will die. So it does make me wonder how useful can the tablets be since they are not given with instructions to keep refrigerated. One thing that the powder helped me tremendously with was my stomach. I had intense symptoms for 12 years before I got the nystatin. So.... Many times my stomach would just pain me. And I noticed times my bowels pained me also, and vagina/uterus also. Of course we all know that when you just treat you vagina with suppositories the pain then moves to your bowel. Thinking if this, I got rid of the idea that I had an ulcer, and decided to take the powder during the episodes of the stomach pain. The doctor recommended to take nystatin BEFORE eating. But I got stomach pain at other times. So during this stomach episode I took 1 dose of medicine-off schedule. In about 15 minutes I became nauseous and 5 minutes I threw up. My stomach was empty of food at that time and the contents was nothing but mucus. I hate to be gross but live and learn. There was strands of mucus about pencil size but broken 1 inch bits with the ends shredded like straw. I was successful in doing this again with the powdered Nystatin BUT also successful with the same experience with POWDERED CAPRYLIC ACID. So don't despair. If you feel you need additional help chose the caprylic acid capsules, let us know how it works for you. When taking the powder form of anything it disperses overall and mixes with the food you tend to eat. I picture the tablets sitting in one spot and not getting this mixture to blend altogether through your digestive system. But Carol, I do not know what variety of fungus I have, this may not be your case at all. But it is really good to know you can rely on caprylic acid as well. No more stomach pain, LIZ > [Original Message] > From: <Cis64@...> > <candidiasis > > Date: 3/28/01 5:54:34 AM > Subject: Re: Diflucan, Nystatin > > Liz, > Are the Nystatin pills helpful? That is what my doctor put me on. It seems > like everyone is taking the powder. > > Thanks, > Carol > --- rabbitbrain@... --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 Candida treatment with the pills is not a one way treatment. It does jack up your entire system. You may benefit with enzymes as well. I kept tasting all the protein I ate all day long, that was a clue I wasn't digesting it. I am 42 so I kind of expect it now, but didn't know this supplementation was needed at the time. Where to get Carbolic Acid Powder? JLC sells it, they host this board I believe. I was going to order from them and got shocked to find it show up at my local health food store. Mostly all I could find was the hard tablets. I lost the address, but I know many member here have it. My information got wiped out twice. They are called (JoyfullivingServices) put that in your search and see if it pops up. Meanwhile I will find out myself also. LIZ > [Original Message] > From: <Cis64@...> > <candidiasis > > Date: 3/28/01 5:31:50 PM > Subject: Re: Diflucan, Nystatin > > Thanks. Liz.. Where can i get powdered caprylic acid? I have never heard of > it. It will help me. The pills don't seem to be working. I have a lot of > digesive problems. > > Thanks so much for your time, knowledge, input!! I appreciate it > > Carol > --- rabbitbrain@... --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 Please note I missed spelled CAPRYLIC ACID POWDER. Don't buy the other kind, I don't know what it is! LIZ > [Original Message] > From: <Rabbitbrain@...> > <candidiasis > > Date: 3/28/01 6:16:07 PM > Subject: Re: Diflucan, Nystatin > > Candida treatment with the pills is not a one way treatment. > It does jack up your entire system. You may benefit with > enzymes as well. I kept tasting all the protein I ate all > day long, that was a clue I wasn't digesting it. I am 42 > so I kind of expect it now, but didn't know this supplementation > was needed at the time. > > Where to get Carbolic Acid Powder? JLC sells it, they host > this board I believe. I was going to order from them and got > shocked to find it show up at my local health food store. > Mostly all I could find was the hard tablets. > > I lost the address, but I know many member here have it. > My information got wiped out twice. > They are called (JoyfullivingServices) put that in your search > and see if it pops up. Meanwhile I will find out myself also. > > LIZ > > > > [Original Message] > > From: <Cis64@...> > > <candidiasis > > > Date: 3/28/01 5:31:50 PM > > Subject: Re: Diflucan, Nystatin > > > > Thanks. Liz.. Where can i get powdered caprylic acid? I have never heard > of > > it. It will help me. The pills don't seem to be working. I have a lot of > > digesive problems. > > > > Thanks so much for your time, knowledge, input!! I appreciate it > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > --- rabbitbrain@... > --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. > > > > > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2001 Report Share Posted March 29, 2001 Carbolic acid powder? Is that the same as capyrlic acid powder? Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2001 Report Share Posted March 29, 2001 Dear Carol, I'm sure that you are taking the right form of nystatin. There are many ways to get nystatin in different forms. Re: Diflucan, Nystatin Am I taking the wrong nystatin--the pills??? It was easy for me to get... Please let me know.. Carol Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2001 Report Share Posted March 29, 2001 I took the powder nystatin when I was at my sickest and I found it very effective. My die-off reaction lasted for months. As I got better, I asked my doctor if I could go to the pills because I felt ready to change to the pills and it was more convenient for me. I find that if you have an extreme case of candida the powder is best to help with the yeast in the mouth and esophogus. I also find that the pills are much cheaper and that was another reason for wanting to change what form I wanted to take. I think everyone is different and there are many different ways to treat candida. I don't think there is a wrong way, just think about what is best for you. Re: Diflucan, Nystatin Liz, Are the Nystatin pills helpful? That is what my doctor put me on. It seems like everyone is taking the powder. Thanks, Carol Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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