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Hi Ady

I wouldn't tell to stop playing netball. My daughter, who just turned

10 in January, was like that last fall when she began playing soccer for the

first time. I called the rheumy, who said that as long as was not

damaging her joints we should let her decide whether or not she wanted to

keep playing. And said it was definitely worth the pain! She did a lot

of limping during soccer season and we made great use of heat packs and warm

baths. And my daughter came away so happy and proud of herself for playing

the season. And at the team party she received special recognition from the

coaches for showing the team what true effort is. So, unless you or your

rheumy have concerns about permanent damage, I would suggest following the

advice I was given.

As for sterility problems due to naprosyn and prednisone-- I've never heard

such a thing. Please remember that many times a cause for infertility is

difficult to find. So your co-worker may be making assumptions. Please

discuss these concerns with your rheumy. You need the reassurance from the

pros as well as from all the parents here.

Keep us posted on the netball season!!

Liz

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> Hi all

>

> My daughter (9, systemic JRA), has been doing so well recently that

I

> encouraged her to try out for the Netball team at school. She tried out

and

> made the team which was so so special for her. Anyway she went for more

> training yesterday and hardly slept last night and this morning could

hardly

> walk. It's coming into winter here in SA and I don't know if it is the

> weather, or if it is the netball. The thought of telling her to stop

going

> to netball is really really hard. She was so happy.

>

> Another question - I spoke to a woman who works with me who has arthritis

> and she mentioned Naproxyn and Prednisone causing sterility in females -

> said she battled for years to have a child. She said that it is something

> doctors never mention... Does anyone have any information on this? Is it

> true??!!

>

> Oh man. Just when you think everything is going according to the plan...

>

> Thanks

> Ady

> Johannesburg, South Africa

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Liz

I'll be chatting to her about it, I think she can give it a try for a couple

more times and then make the decision herself... Thanks for your response.

As for her rheumy, I'm looking for a new one. The one I'm seeing now has me

frustrated as hell.

Actually I am going to use this opportunity to completely vent if you'll all

be patient with me.

Meg's been on mxt since October of 1999 and takes a whole handfull of

tablets every day, folic acid, sulphazine, evening primrose oil, calcium,

losec, mxt once a week and quite frankly I am really tired of it all. I'm

worried about her weight, what the prednisone is doing to her development

and what this whole lot is going to do to her. I want to throw the damn

pills down the drain and scream and shout and chuck things around. I am

really really mad. If this disease had a face I swear I'd punch it right

around now. I want her to walk normally, run and jump like everybody else.

I hate feeling helpless when she is in pain, I swear I've tried every lotion

potion and cream on the market - to help her when she is in pain. I'm tired

of doctors who couldn't care less if you're battling for money and who

threaten not to see her when she is sick.

Ok. now I feel better!! I'm going to look for my sense of humour now.

Thanks for listening.

Ady

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Hi there

Apparently, according to her doctor, (who I am deeply unimpressed with at

the moment) says that Sulphazine causes insomnia - anyone else had

experience with that?

You're right about the guinea pig thing. Anyhow. I've found my sense of

humour again!!! Her doctor was telling me last time we went that she only

has arthritis in her knee these days. Which would explain why her hip, her

ankles and her shoulders and her neck are so painful today. Grrrr.

I've found a woman who practices a very holistic approach to medicine right

through from diet, psychological aspects of the disease and correct

exercise. She's doing some research into the disease for me at the moment,

but I'm quite keen to get a look at the disease from a different point of

view....

Thanks for listening.

Ady

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Ady

not sure where your at but finding another doctor sounds good

i know this disease is fustrateing

a doctor has threatened you that they will not see your child?

thats against the law here in georgia a doctor HAS to see the child

even if the parent has a attitude lolol i have one of those

the doctor melissa sees has been with us since my son was born

and she knows how i get so she sent melissa to a doctor she personally knows

that rhuemy well didnt work well the first time because he was male lolol

so we went to the female rhuemy she didnt have the right attitude for

melissa

made a comment about being FAT

well i took melissa back to the male doctor and so far doing ok i think but

when melissa has a problem i call the doctor who has been the doctor from the

start

she tells me what is going on and what to do

but heads with them its your right

remember the wise saying

what comes around goes around

they will get theres in due time

call the shriners and see if they can help you

let me know if i can help any

Robbin

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Ady

cant eat anything with MSG in it this is a chemical used in foods

we found this out a few years ago my son was told he had ADHD once i did my

research on things we found out that was one of the causes

we were told he needed to be on ritalin we refused it and went to the herb

shop and started on pycnogerol i think is the right spelling

within a week the teachers seen a improvement the drugs the kids take are

bad on side effects the foods we feed them are to

and the shots we have to give them MMR polio ETC...

but the shots are needed and we have to EAT

so we take the side effects NATURAL is best if you can find it

i do know the shots can cause arthritis its in small print when they give the

shot

i just dont know exact cause of melissas yet

could be eviromental could be inherited could be those shots could be this

could be that no one knows yet

please remember parents feel the same guilt and the WHYS run through our heads

have a great day

Robbin

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Dear Ady, Hoorah for , I think we almost always pay for it when we try to keep up with the rest of our peers. If playing netball puts a smile on s face well she may have a few rough times when she overdoes it. It's just part of growing up with JRA. She will soon learn how to prepare herself with extra rest before playing and pacing herself when she can. It's great that she was able to make the team, and even if it turns out that she can't play every single game or do every single minute of every practice, has still won. As for your question on fertility, I'm not sure if they do have affects on fertility, But I do know that I took Prednisone from 10 to 18 almost every day plus injections. I also have JRA related juvenile hypothroidism and I had no problems at all conceiving. I'm no t saying it doesn't happen to others I'm just telling my experience. :):)Keep Smilin:):)Tree:):) Question Hi allMy daughter (9, systemic JRA), has been doing so well recently that Iencouraged her to try out for the Netball team at school. She tried out andmade the team which was so so special for her. Anyway she went for moretraining yesterday and hardly slept last night and this morning could hardlywalk. It's coming into winter here in SA and I don't know if it is theweather, or if it is the netball. The thought of telling her to stop goingto netball is really really hard. She was so happy.Another question - I spoke to a woman who works with me who has arthritisand she mentioned Naproxyn and Prednisone causing sterility in females -said she battled for years to have a child. She said that it is somethingdoctors never mention... Does anyone have any information on this? Is ittrue??!!Oh man. Just when you think everything is going according to the plan...ThanksAdyJohannesburg, South Africa

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Adrienne Dodds <adodds@...> wrote: Hi LizI'll be chatting to her about it, I think she can give it a try for a couplemore times and then make the decision herself... Thanks for your response.As for her rheumy, I'm looking for a new one. The one I'm seeing now has mefrustrated as hell.Actually I am going to use this opportunity to completely vent if you'll allbe patient with me. Meg's been on mxt since October of 1999 and takes a whole handfull oftablets every day, folic acid, sulphazine, evening primrose oil, calcium,losec, mxt once a week and quite frankly I am really tired of it all. I'mworried about her weight, what the prednisone is doing to her developmentand what this whole lot is going to do to her. I want to throw the damnpills down the drain and scream and shout and chuck things around. I amreally really mad. If this disease had a face I swear I'd punch it rightaround now. I want her to walk normally, run and jump like everybody else.I hate feeling helpless when she is in pain, I swear I've tried every lotionpotion and cream on the market - to help her when she is in pain. I'm tiredof doctors who couldn't care less if you're battling for money and whothreaten not to see her when she is sick.Ok. now I feel better!! I'm going to look for my sense of humour now.Thanks for listening.Ady

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Barb

Arthritis can hit the feet who is 15 now and has poly JRA walks

funny left foot turned out alot she cant walk a far way because of the

pressure it puts on the joints i was concerned about this and talked with

the pediatrician and she refered her to the podiatrist and they xrayed the

ankles and feet I was so surprised to see the xrays her bones in her feet

were messed up and if she didnt wear the braces her feet would keep on

turning PLEASE call a podiatrist and tell them your child has JRA they will

do the right thing may end up in full leg supports but right now

shes in the AFOs they make a cast of the feet and up the leg and make the

brace to fit

had a xray done 6 month prior to this and her feet looked ok with in

6 months her feet bones had turned ALOT

hope this helps also go get a handicap thing to hang in your car for your

child

so the child dont have to walk far from the car

on melissas good days we dont use it but on bad days we do

Robbin

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Barb,I dont know if its the JRA or not,but if it was me,I would take him to a

foot specialist.It could be something as simple as a custom foot insert.I heard

somewhere that a very young child walking on there toes is ok,but an older child

doing that needs to be checked out,especially if its due to pain.Let us know

what

you do. Becki and 3systemic

owits@... wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have been with this group for almost a year now and I just have to say that

> I think you people are " the best " and such a wonderful life line. My son

> Chase is 8, with systemic and is on methatrexate, folic acid, relafen and

> zantac. We successfully have gotten off of prednisone and I believe that the

> methatrexate truly keeps his arthritis under control. He has had problems

> with his feet though right from the beginning. Mostly his heels and we've

> tried New Balance sneakers, but everything hurts his feet. Everywhere we go,

> he can only walk for alittle while and then his feet start to hurt and we

> have to stop. He walks on his toes alot and just has a different way of

> walking. Could this be from his arthritis? Or do you think we need to take

> him to a podiatrist? Can anyone else relate to this? Any feedback would be

> greatly appreciated. Thank you all!

>

> Barb

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

There is a girl down here who walks the same way. She is in the same group of children our rheumy takes care of. I didn't realize that it could be from arthritis, but now that you mentioned it, it probably is. I have only met her a few times, but every time I see her she is walking on tippy toes. Wow, I would have never associated the two.

Theresa WPB, FL

>From: owits@... >Reply- > >Subject: Question >Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 07:22:06 EDT > >Hi everyone, > >I have been with this group for almost a year now and I just have to say that >I think you people are "the best" and such a wonderful life line. My son >Chase is 8, with systemic and is on methatrexate, folic acid, relafen and >zantac. We successfully have gotten off of prednisone and I believe that the >methatrexate truly keeps his arthritis under control. He has had problems >with his feet though right from the beginning. Mostly his heels and we've >tried New Balance sneakers, but everything hurts his feet. Everywhere we go, >he can only walk for alittle while and then his feet start to hurt and we >have to stop. He walks on his toes alot and just has a different way of >walking. Could this be from his arthritis? Or do you think we need to take >him to a podiatrist? Can anyone else relate to this? Any feedback would be >greatly appreciated. Thank you all! > >Barb Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here

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My experience with this may not relate to you but you

may want to consider the idea. My daughter Tasie is

almost three. She walkes exactly the same way, always

has. She is clubfoot. Not to the severity that most

people think, but she is classified clubfoot. She

doesn't walk very far. Walks on her toes, her heels

hurt, she trips over her own feet. It is a

possibility, it does strike boys more often than

girls...well apparently they didn't know that when

they made Tasie...and with the arthritis it could

possibly be twisting bones around. There are inserts

that a dr can give you to put in his shoes to help to

correct and support his feet.

Keep us posted on what is going on.

Love and pain free days to all. We are really worn

out here. Tasie has been in a full flare for a month

and a half with no letting up yet. Ugh.

Love to all,

Casaria

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Barb..yes a podiatrist would be useful. Tabitha who has poly..has the oddest

looking feet due to jra. Her right foot is smaller than her left..she had to

have her right ankle fused at one point because her foot was turning on its

side. The toes on her left has grown towards the leftside of her foot..she

also has a bunyon(sp)doctor called it an arthritis noid..not sure if that is

the right word for it..anyways she has special shoes she has to wear..I know

when Tab was little they told me to wear high tops on her to support her

ankles well now she can only wear flat tennis shoes..none with the high

arches..she has to wear like skater shoes..Van(i think that is the name of

them)has no arch whatsoever in them. Then her shoes get adapted to her feet.

I took Tabitha to the er one time to get her right foot x-rayed..the doctor

told me that the xray technician would like to speak to me..when i got there

the technician looked at me and said..oh my god, what happened to her bones

in her feet..i simply said jra.

So..best advice is to get his feet checked..maybe it is the arches in the

shoes that hurt his heels..or he needs some modifications to his shoes.

Good luck

karen(tab17..poly)

From: owits@...

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Subject: Question

Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 07:22:06 EDT

Hi everyone,

I have been with this group for almost a year now and I just have to say

that

I think you people are " the best " and such a wonderful life line. My son

Chase is 8, with systemic and is on methatrexate, folic acid, relafen and

zantac. We successfully have gotten off of prednisone and I believe that the

methatrexate truly keeps his arthritis under control. He has had problems

with his feet though right from the beginning. Mostly his heels and we've

tried New Balance sneakers, but everything hurts his feet. Everywhere we go,

he can only walk for alittle while and then his feet start to hurt and we

have to stop. He walks on his toes alot and just has a different way of

walking. Could this be from his arthritis? Or do you think we need to take

him to a podiatrist? Can anyone else relate to this? Any feedback would be

greatly appreciated. Thank you all!

Barb

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Thanks Becki, I will get him checked and let you know who we made out. Barb &

Chase (8)

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Hi Barb,

I'm not sure why, but my daughter Abbie (12, systemic) also walks differently. Hers, I think, stems from a weakening in her ankles. They don't seem to support her the same way they did before she got sick.

On a brighter note, that too, seems to be disappearing as the Remicade takes over. She jumps out of bed in the morning, her knee no longer gives out 5-6 times an hour, and this afternoon I saw her RUNNING up the street to stop a runaway ball. She dropped from 20 to 15 on her pred today. Tomorrow should show the difference if she is going to have a problem. If not, another 5 mg drop on the 30th, which is when she gets infusion #3. She is like a new child. I hope it lasts.

Christy (Abbie, 12 systemic)

[Guest guest]

Christy that is terrrific news..hooray Abbie..you go girl..

I also hope the remicade keeps helping her...It is also great to hear about

the drop in predisone..

Good luck

karen(tab17..poly)

From: gazelle34@...

Reply-

Subject: Re: Question

Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:35:58 EDT

Hi Barb,

I'm not sure why, but my daughter Abbie (12, systemic) also walks

differently. Hers, I think, stems from a weakening in her ankles. They don't

seem to support her the same way they did before she got sick.

On a brighter note, that too, seems to be disappearing as the Remicade takes

over. She jumps out of bed in the morning, her knee no longer gives out 5-6

times an hour, and this afternoon I saw her RUNNING up the street to stop a

runaway ball. She dropped from 20 to 15 on her pred today. Tomorrow should

show the difference if she is going to have a problem. If not, another 5 mg

drop on the 30th, which is when she gets infusion #3. She is like a new

child. I hope it lasts.

Christy (Abbie, 12 systemic)

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Thanks Robbin, I have an appointment with a foot dr. on May 2. Hopefully he

can help us. Barb, mom to Chase, 8 w/systemic

[Guest guest]

Thanks Casaria, I did look for inserts for his shoes, but could only find

adult sizes. Hopefully a podiatrist can help. Hope Tasie's feeling better

soon. Barb, mom to Chase, 8 w/systemic

[Guest guest]

Hi , thanks, I did get an appointment with a podiatrist for May 2. Hope

this helps. If my memory serves me well, I do believe our kids go to the same

pediatric rheumatologist at Hershey Medical Center. Correct me if I'm wrong

and thanks again for the advice. Barb, mom to Chase, 8 w/systemic

[Guest guest]

Thanks Christy, I'm so glad Abbie's responding to the Remicaid. It's kind of

comforting to know that there's other meds to try out there if the ones

they're on don't seem to work. It's especially nice to see our kids get some

relief. Good luck. Barb, mom to Chase, 8 w/systemic

[Guest guest]

Hi Ady,

I was so happy to read your message. It's great to hear that is doing and feeling so much better than she used to. Before, feeling so poorly, she would not have considered trying out for the sports team. Now, with her joints doing better and having increased stamina, the concern is about her possibly overdoing it and aggravating her arthritis or facing an injury. If you'll recall, I worried about the exact same things when Josh felt able to become more active.

I've read the responses you've received to your query. I agree that it's probably best to allow her to participate as much as she feels able to. will eventually learn what limits (if any) she has and what price she is willing to pay. Even though it can be discouraging for us to see our child dealing with increased pain, especially if it might have been preventable, they say that experience is sometimes the best teacher. You may be tempted sometimes, afterwards, to say ... "I told you so" ... but part of growing up is taking on more responsibility, being in control, being able to make our own choices. Though we don't always make the right choices. As for your other question .... I've read only that cytoxin may increase the chances of one's becoming infertile.

Take care,

Georgina

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From: Adrienne Dodds

Hi allMy daughter (9, systemic JRA), has been doing so well recently that Iencouraged her to try out for the Netball team at school. She tried out andmade the team which was so so special for her. Anyway she went for moretraining yesterday and hardly slept last night and this morning could hardlywalk. It's coming into winter here in SA and I don't know if it is theweather, or if it is the netball. The thought of telling her to stop goingto netball is really really hard. She was so happy.Another question - I spoke to a woman who works with me who has arthritisand she mentioned Naproxyn and Prednisone causing sterility in females -said she battled for years to have a child. She said that it is somethingdoctors never mention... Does anyone have any information on this? Is ittrue??!!Oh man. Just when you think everything is going according to the plan...ThanksAdyJohannesburg, South Africa

[Guest guest]

Hi Casaria,

I just wanted to send some warm thoughts from Hawaii .... hoping that Tasie starts feeling lots better. Very soon. Hang in there.

Aloha,

Georgina

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From: Casaria Tuttle

My experience with this may not relate to you but youmay want to consider the idea. My daughter Tasie isalmost three. She walkes exactly the same way, alwayshas. She is clubfoot. Not to the severity that mostpeople think, but she is classified clubfoot. Shedoesn't walk very far. Walks on her toes, her heelshurt, she trips over her own feet. It is apossibility, it does strike boys more often thangirls...well apparently they didn't know that whenthey made Tasie...and with the arthritis it couldpossibly be twisting bones around. There are insertsthat a dr can give you to put in his shoes to help tocorrect and support his feet. Keep us posted on what is going on. Love and pain free days to all. We are really wornout here. Tasie has been in a full flare for a monthand a half with no letting up yet. Ugh. Love to all,Casaria

[Guest guest]

Yes you are correct Barb..sorry..my memory has a tendency to disappear

alot..lol! Hope all goes well and everything gets situated with his feet..

karen(tab17..poly)

From: owits@...

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Subject: Re: Question

Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 10:40:17 EDT

Hi , thanks, I did get an appointment with a podiatrist for May 2. Hope

this helps. If my memory serves me well, I do believe our kids go to the

same

pediatric rheumatologist at Hershey Medical Center. Correct me if I'm wrong

and thanks again for the advice. Barb, mom to Chase, 8 w/systemic

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Georgina,

Thanks a bunch, sending hugs back to you. Do you

think you could send some of that warm hawaii weather

next time...ha!ha!

Love to all,

Casaria

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Yes,, there is a product called " paraway Pak " from

Unicity.. If you want more information, let me know and I

will send it to you,,, this works and is safer than

prescription meds .... jackie

> I am wondering if anyone has had any experience with the following. I

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>

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:11:28 -0700

From: Kay s <ikonltd@...>

Subject: question

I am wondering if anyone has had any experience with the following.

I

have been looking for " an obstacle to cure " with my

herbal program,

Chinese, etc. meaning what is preventing them from working and I was

recently diagnosed with allergies to wheat and soy as well as two

parasites, does anyone know about getting rid of them without

antibiotics?

Thanks

Kay

Kay,

Dr. Young would say that it's acid, in a nutshell. He's

saying that the body is self-healing, including allergies when it's

alkaline, not acid. This is a huge

oversimplification, and for space reasons, not suitable for this

venue. He goes into it in depth at

http://www.innerlightfoundation.org.

As for parasites, they can not live in a mineral rich body, and a mineral

rich body is an alkaline body. MSM works wonders regarding

parasites because it strengthens the mucous membranes of the body

providing resistance to foreign invaders. Think of MSM as a coating

of teflon on your intestines, preventing parasites from taking hold, but

that's still a bandaid that misses the whole picture of why the parasites

are there.

Parasites are needful when the body is broken down, and in an acid

condition. When Dr. Young talks about an acid condition, with

regard to " germs " or parasites, he's saying that they simply

can't exist in an alkaline environment. There is not need to KILL

parasites, as there is to remove the environment that they thrive

in. The healthy body is the cure, not the parasite cleanse, or

whatever herbs kill parasites. He calls this the New Biology.

When the body's fluids are properly balanced, the body heals

spontaneously. Bam. Poof.

He further says that the toxins produced within an overly acidic, oxygen

deprived body contribute significantly to what are often called

symptoms of allergy. In addition ,the absorption of undigested

proteins is a major cause of allergy conditions. A weakened

digestive system, which prevents the total breakdown of amino acids is

the primary cause of food allergies. His remedy is SuperGreens and

Prime pH. And that, is simply, the NEW BIOLOGY. (see his site above

for more info, and my site below for his incredible InnerLight

products.)

The body is the cure. Herbs are only useful to bring into balance what is

out of balance. They have never been the " cure " .

Moe

http://www.innerlightinc.com/mosaicbymoe

1-800-780-9464