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this sounds like disaster to me. as I remember your TSH was quite high. IMO

you will need to take 3-5 grains of Armour every day, but first get adrenal

support, and iodine is soooo helpful.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

Gracia

Thanks so much! I think that is what I'm going to do... I thought maybe taking

1/2 grain a day might do it.. but I don't know if I can split the pill.

palma joshi <dholakia72@...> wrote: it looks like your levels build up

really quickly so you probably do need to take a day off here and there or you

might want to try taking your dose every other day...................

Melody Dolle-Ducote wrote: Friday I ended up in the ER again this time heart

rate raced about an hour before in the 150's it had been staying between 98 and

120 all week.

My TSH was 1.33 on Friday. Endo still says TAKE THE MEDs... i'm on 1 grain

Armour and adrenals tested normal.

in the past it has taken me months to regulate my thyroid.

i started with a 7.8 TSH on 4/10. Started meds on 4/13.

on 4/18 it waws 3.81 and no palpitations but in normal range...

kept taking the one grain through 5/4 daily and it was then at 2.1

when I had the first set of palpitations...

Last weekend the ER doc took me off for Sat/Sun and Sunday night it was 7.8

started again on Mondayas they told me to and on Tuesday when they checked it

it wasw 5.85....

So I don't get why it controlled so quickly... and perhaps I think I am taking

too much. The Endo I'm seeing says no it is that the ER docs keep having me take

two days off every time my heart races.... yet I was on it consistently 4/13

through 5/4 and it was down to 2.1

I either need a new dr or .... I'm nuts... which I'm sure you all will tell me

!

I have a stress test tomorrow as they have already ruled out my heart twice in

6 months but endo says it is not the medication or the thyroid....he also said

he would not test me again for two months. I told him that was unacceptable and

with these symptoms...... I wanted it checked every 6 weeks... so he agreed....

yet I am reading on the internet that some people .... can be hypo with hyper

symptoms if the meds are off...

any suggestions..... on a dr in the dallas area.

in addition may I add that being off the pills yesterday and today were the

best two days I have had in weeks.... literally I had energy, no heart

palpitations, I felt great!

I know alot of people say take the meds consistantly. But for two years not I

was on 2 grains a day and only took them M-F until april of this year and I did

well and it regulated and stayed that way....

It is not the best way but....it worked for me... and it was prescribed that

way by the Dr.

M

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You might be able to take a full one day and then skip the next. I think I

heard sometime ago that it is cummulative over time, so going everyother day

might be a good option.

Blessings,

palma joshi <dholakia72@...> wrote:

you can split it, you might need to purchase a pill splitter from a

drug store.

Melody Dolle-Ducote <hipmmmy@...> wrote: Thanks so much! I think that is

what I'm going to do... I thought maybe taking 1/2 grain a day might do it.. but

I don't know if I can split the pill.

palma joshi <dholakia72@...> wrote: it looks like your levels build up

really quickly so you probably do need to take a day off here and there or you

might want to try taking your dose every other day...................

Melody Dolle-Ducote wrote: Friday I ended up in the ER again this time heart

rate raced about an hour before in the 150's it had been staying between 98 and

120 all week.

My TSH was 1.33 on Friday. Endo still says TAKE THE MEDs... i'm on 1 grain

Armour and adrenals tested normal.

in the past it has taken me months to regulate my thyroid.

i started with a 7.8 TSH on 4/10. Started meds on 4/13.

on 4/18 it waws 3.81 and no palpitations but in normal range...

kept taking the one grain through 5/4 daily and it was then at 2.1

when I had the first set of palpitations...

Last weekend the ER doc took me off for Sat/Sun and Sunday night it was 7.8

started again on Mondayas they told me to and on Tuesday when they checked it it

wasw 5.85....

So I don't get why it controlled so quickly... and perhaps I think I am taking

too much. The Endo I'm seeing says no it is that the ER docs keep having me take

two days off every time my heart races.... yet I was on it consistently 4/13

through 5/4 and it was down to 2.1

I either need a new dr or .... I'm nuts... which I'm sure you all will tell me !

I have a stress test tomorrow as they have already ruled out my heart twice in 6

months but endo says it is not the medication or the thyroid....he also said he

would not test me again for two months. I told him that was unacceptable and

with these symptoms...... I wanted it checked every 6 weeks... so he agreed....

yet I am reading on the internet that some people .... can be hypo with hyper

symptoms if the meds are off...

any suggestions..... on a dr in the dallas area.

in addition may I add that being off the pills yesterday and today were the best

two days I have had in weeks.... literally I had energy, no heart palpitations,

I felt great!

I know alot of people say take the meds consistantly. But for two years not I

was on 2 grains a day and only took them M-F until april of this year and I did

well and it regulated and stayed that way....

It is not the best way but....it worked for me... and it was prescribed that way

by the Dr.

M

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can you post your labs? what is the lab says is normal may not be

normal for you.

renee

>

>

> i recently got tested for hypothyroid...everything came back normal.

> however,

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Maybe I missed a message.? What do you mean by type?? Do you mean what type of

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lenosan

Question

Even though I have been treated for

hypoT for years

and years, no one has told me why type I am. How do I

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> It seems that all views on this forum are not welcomed if they

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It's like that everywhere.

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Yeah! that's when I get my independence. If you don't like what

I say -- lump it! grow up! not everyone is going to believe as

you do -- but thank God, I do have a belief in something besides

myself.

>>It seems that all views on this forum are not welcomed if they

>>disagree with the majority.

>It's like that everywhere.

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Crystal,

We found out with the cohort of posters that came in with Sam,

that our mystery moderator accumulates applicants for up to several

weeks and then turns them all on at the same time. Tell him to just be

patient.

OTC thyroid preparations by law can only contain at most about 5% of the

usual levels of thyroxine in Armour. That means someone who is

borderline has a remote chance of finding some benefit, but basically

these preparations are a very expensive way to eat beef. This is

different from by-passing prescription requirements, which is what some

posters claim to do.

> Okay, I got an email form someone who is trying to start posting, but

> whoever the moderator is hasn't let him yet....

Chuck

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Well, I just bought an ove the counter vitamin from my doctor called thytrophin

PMG. It says it contains bovine thyroid PMG extract (Processed to remove its

thyroxine). But I don't really know what that means. Taking it made me feel

hyperT though, so maybe it does have thyroid hormones in it? Sorry i couldn't be

more help!

Okay, I got an email form someone who is trying to start posting, but

whoever the moderator is hasn't let him yet. He has a question that I

don't know the answer to so I am posting it here. He/she wants to

know if glandulars sold over the counter (non-prescription) cannot

contain thyroid hormones? Thanks.

Crystal

[Guest guest]

That is my understanding. If it contains thyroid hormones that makes it

a prescribed medicine.

However, I believe there are a few here who self treat and manage to get

Armour without a prescription somehow. I don't know how.

>

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> Fri Aug 3, 2007 9:17 pm (PST)

>

> Okay, I got an email form someone who is trying to start posting, but

> whoever the moderator is hasn't let him yet. He has a question that I

> don't know the answer to so I am posting it here. He/she wants to

> know if glandulars sold over the counter (non-prescription) cannot

> contain thyroid hormones? Thanks.

> Crystal

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Hi all,

I have been instructed to take 2 x 30mg armour in the evening. My last

results were TSH = 12 and T4 = 8.5. I have been taking 1 x 30mg in the morning.

I am well and havnt had any problems but recently been struggling with life - I

dont have any reason to get out of bed. I dont know what is wrong with me. Can

anyone out there relate to this? And something else - if I have a drink of

alcohol, i feel like doing something, otherwise I just want to sleep or laze

about. Anyone else out there with similar problems? - I hope so x

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

Crystal,

We found out with the cohort of posters that came in with Sam,

that our mystery moderator accumulates applicants for up to several

weeks and then turns them all on at the same time. Tell him to just be

patient.

OTC thyroid preparations by law can only contain at most about 5% of the

usual levels of thyroxine in Armour. That means someone who is

borderline has a remote chance of finding some benefit, but basically

these preparations are a very expensive way to eat beef. This is

different from by-passing prescription requirements, which is what some

posters claim to do.

> Okay, I got an email form someone who is trying to start posting, but

> whoever the moderator is hasn't let him yet....

Chuck

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Help me please - I dont tell anyone how I really am because I think will wont

believe me. I have been following this post from some time now but I could

never equate myself to anyone. I am physically well and I am grateful for that

but my symptoms are phsycological I think and no one understands - even me x

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: Crystal,

We found out with the cohort of posters that came in with Sam,

that our mystery moderator accumulates applicants for up to several

weeks and then turns them all on at the same time. Tell him to just be

patient.

OTC thyroid preparations by law can only contain at most about 5% of the

usual levels of thyroxine in Armour. That means someone who is

borderline has a remote chance of finding some benefit, but basically

these preparations are a very expensive way to eat beef. This is

different from by-passing prescription requirements, which is what some

posters claim to do.

> Okay, I got an email form someone who is trying to start posting, but

> whoever the moderator is hasn't let him yet....

Chuck

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Suzanne,

What you describe is classic hypoT, with classic under treatment.

However, your doctor may be doing the old titration method of gradually

increasing your dosage, so you don't accidentally over shoot and don't

induce cardiac problems. You won't feel well until you get a larger

dose, probably much larger.

Also, please specify the lab ranges for your test results. Except for

TSH, these can vary widely.

Chuck

>

>

> Hi all,

> I have been instructed to take 2 x 30mg armour in the evening. My last

> results were TSH = 12 and T4 = 8.5. I have been taking 1 x 30mg in the

> morning. I am well and havnt had any problems but recently been

> struggling with life - I dont have any reason to get out of bed. I dont

> know what is wrong with me. Can anyone out there relate to this? And

> something else - if I have a drink of alcohol, i feel like doing

> something, otherwise I just want to sleep or laze about. Anyone else out

> there with similar problems? - I hope so x

>

> Chuck B <gumboyaya@... <mailto:gumboyaya%40cox.net>> wrote:

> Crystal,

>

> We found out with the cohort of posters that came in with Sam,

> that our mystery moderator accumulates applicants for up to several

> weeks and then turns them all on at the same time. Tell him to just be

> patient.

>

> OTC thyroid preparations by law can only contain at most about 5% of the

> usual levels of thyroxine in Armour. That means someone who is

> borderline has a remote chance of finding some benefit, but basically

> these preparations are a very expensive way to eat beef. This is

> different from by-passing prescription requirements, which is what some

> posters claim to do.

>

> > Okay, I got an email form someone who is trying to start posting, but

> > whoever the moderator is hasn't let him yet....

>

> Chuck

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[Guest guest]

Awww, honey, I'm so sorry you feel this way. Don't worry though, because

things will deffinitely improve. Depression, anxiety, etc. are all hypoT

symptoms.

You will probably need to increase your dosage but the good thing about

Armour is that it goes into your system fast. While it may be psychological,

there is just as much of a chance if not more that you are feeling this was

because of your thyroid. My mood got soo much better after starting Armour.

Don't

worry hun, there's a light at the end of this tunnel.

In a message dated 8/4/07 4:06:13 PM, suegeoboo@... writes:

>

> Hi all,

> I have been instructed to take 2 x 30mg armour in the evening. My last

> results were TSH = 12 and T4 = 8.5. I have been taking 1 x 30mg in the

morning. I

> am well and havnt had any problems but recently been struggling with life - I

> dont have any reason to get out of bed. I dont know what is wrong with me.

> Can anyone out there relate to this? And something else - if I have a drink of

> alcohol, i feel like doing something, otherwise I just want to sleep or laze

> about. Anyone else out there with similar problems? - I hope so x

>

>

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Venizia-

I deffinitely agree with you. Taking Armour at night makes no sense unless

the person works a night shift ;-)

In a message dated 8/4/07 8:30:40 PM, nelsonck@... writes:

>

> Hi Suzanne,

>

> Welcome! I was going to say basically the same things as Chuck. However, I

> am

> wondering why your doctor would have you take your meds at night. To me

> having the T3

> of Armour in the morning would help you get thru your day better. That makes

> no sense

> to me. How about anyone else?

>

> You say you are feeling well but with TSH of 12, that can definitely be why

> you just want to

> sleep. I don't feel like doing much of anything if my TSH gets to be 3 or

> higher and there

> have been times when it was around 2 and I felt awful.

>

> Anyway, does anyone know why her doctor is telling her to take Armour at

> night?

>

> Venizia

>

>

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Hi Suzanne,

Welcome! I was going to say basically the same things as Chuck. However, I am

wondering why your doctor would have you take your meds at night. To me having

the T3

of Armour in the morning would help you get thru your day better. That makes no

sense

to me. How about anyone else?

You say you are feeling well but with TSH of 12, that can definitely be why you

just want to

sleep. I don't feel like doing much of anything if my TSH gets to be 3 or

higher and there

have been times when it was around 2 and I felt awful.

Anyway, does anyone know why her doctor is telling her to take Armour at night?

Venizia

> > Crystal,

> >

> > We found out with the cohort of posters that came in with Sam,

> > that our mystery moderator accumulates applicants for up to several

> > weeks and then turns them all on at the same time. Tell him to just be

> > patient.

> >

> > OTC thyroid preparations by law can only contain at most about 5% of the

> > usual levels of thyroxine in Armour. That means someone who is

> > borderline has a remote chance of finding some benefit, but basically

> > these preparations are a very expensive way to eat beef. This is

> > different from by-passing prescription requirements, which is what some

> > posters claim to do.

> >

> > > Okay, I got an email form someone who is trying to start posting, but

> > > whoever the moderator is hasn't let him yet....

> >

> > Chuck

> >

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Venizia,

You wrote:

> ... I am wondering why your doctor would have you take your meds at night....

I was thinking that was a typo or misunderstanding, that he meant to

haver her take one in the morning and the second one at night. That

would make a lot more sense.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Well, that would make more sense but even taking the second one at night seems

strange

to me. I split mine by taking it at 6:30 a.m. and then I take the other dose

around 3 or 4

in the afternoon. It helps give me a lift.

Thanks Chuck.

Venizia

> > ... I am wondering why your doctor would have you take your meds at

night....

>

> I was thinking that was a typo or misunderstanding, that he meant to

> haver her take one in the morning and the second one at night. That

> would make a lot more sense.

>

> Chuck

>

[Guest guest]

Venizia,

You wrote:

>

>

> Well, that would make more sense but even taking the second one at night

> seems strange

> to me. I split mine by taking it at 6:30 a.m. and then I take the other

> dose around 3 or 4

> in the afternoon. It helps give me a lift.

You are absolutely right. The T3 spike will tend to wake you up. I was

using " night " in a very loose sense, since that is the word she used.

The last thing you want is a monster stimulant right before bed. Late

afternoon would be best for the second dose, especially if you go to bed

early and rise early, as Ben lin said.

Chuck

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Suzanne

you might want to look at Hormone Solutions by Thierry Hertoghe MD.

Hypothyroidism the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD

Hypothyroidism Type 2 by Mark Starr MD.

Gracia

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had a wonderful labor day weekend!!!!!!!

I have a quick question. I had blood work done last week and this morning I had

a ultrasound done, the nurse was kind of shocked that i was diagnosed with hep C

cause she could not see anything. So, should I go ahead and have the biospy done

to be on the safe side or does that mean I am in the early stages and not real

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Yes, my bloodwork did show elevated enzymes. I was told that the ultrasound

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ultrasound may not show anything - if you have elevated enzymes, go ahead and

get a biopsy to determine where or if there is any damage to your liver

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I have a quick question. I had blood work done last week and this morning I had

a ultrasound done, the nurse was kind of shocked that i was diagnosed with hep C

cause she could not see anything. So, should I go ahead and have the biospy done

to be on the safe side or does that mean I am in the early stages and not real

damage has been done? This is all so confussing. So, if they cant find anything

does that mean I really dont need to worry about doing treeatment yet or what?

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Yes, my bloodwork did show elevated enzymes. I was told that the ultrasound

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wonderful labor day weekend!!!!!!!

I have a quick question. I had blood work done last week and this morning I had

a ultrasound done, the nurse was kind of shocked that i was diagnosed with hep C

cause she could not see anything. So, should I go ahead and have the biospy done

to be on the safe side or does that mean I am in the early stages and not real

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does that mean I really dont need to worry about doing treeatment yet or what?

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wonderful labor day weekend!!!!!!!

I have a quick question. I had blood work done last week and this morning I had

a ultrasound done, the nurse was kind of shocked that i was diagnosed with hep C

cause she could not see anything. So, should I go ahead and have the biospy done

to be on the safe side or does that mean I am in the early stages and not real

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