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Rob, you are sure good person.

But you can not be serious thinking :) that doctors can't cut the woman off

pain killers...

they do..they don't' care that she suffered thru withdrawals.

she is as good to them as her money...

she is low income, 52 years old woman looking tired and in pain....

we sent her some money but without prescriptions she can't get the

drug..well....on the streets of Tallahassee..maybe..

and here in Utah lots of people think you are an addict if you need pills...

I know, I am venting.

I have a husband who will be facing disability , for the same reason we all

are here...

back and neck problems......

God help us all..

You all have painless night.

Izabela.

In a message dated 2/10/2008 10:35:00 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,

robgehle@... writes:

first, he can't jus cut her off thats dangerous, and she should threaten him

over this. second she should try going to a clinic with her scripts and they

might try to help her, at least to taper her off if nothing else. have they

tried to get state insurance? I can not think of anything. I have to pay out

of pocket to see my pain management, cuz my insurance doesn't cover it; I

actually owe them alot already cuz we're broke. This frustrates me, not being

able to come up with a solution for your sister, because i understand what shes

going thru. I finally got state insurance. I wish i could help.

rob<html><div><WBR>No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to

know no one cares or understands.</div></html>

_PainInTheNeck-PainInTheNeck-<WPainInTh_

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(mailto:izabelam@...) : Sat,

9 Feb 2008 17:18:27 -0500Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck-: Sat, 9 Feb 2008

Hi all,I read all posts every day and they are very helpful. I tell my

husband..you are not alone..but now I have a question.My husband's sister lives

in

Tallahassee, Florida and has not insurance. She lost it recently.As soon as

her doctor learned about it, he cut her off on visits, medications, he cut

her prescriptions for pain - she has herniated disk and she had hip surgery.She

is in pain with no insurance, no pain medication.Do you know what to do?I

have not clue?How people without insurance can survive pain?Jump from the

bridge to stop misery?I hope you guys know some resources for medical help when

you poor and have not health insurance?Thank you all for any ideasIzabela

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Rob, you are sure good person.

But you can not be serious thinking :) that doctors can't cut the woman off

pain killers...

they do..they don't' care that she suffered thru withdrawals.

she is as good to them as her money...

she is low income, 52 years old woman looking tired and in pain....

we sent her some money but without prescriptions she can't get the

drug..well....on the streets of Tallahassee..maybe..

and here in Utah lots of people think you are an addict if you need pills...

I know, I am venting.

I have a husband who will be facing disability , for the same reason we all

are here...

back and neck problems......

God help us all..

You all have painless night.

Izabela.

In a message dated 2/10/2008 10:35:00 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,

robgehle@... writes:

first, he can't jus cut her off thats dangerous, and she should threaten him

over this. second she should try going to a clinic with her scripts and they

might try to help her, at least to taper her off if nothing else. have they

tried to get state insurance? I can not think of anything. I have to pay out

of pocket to see my pain management, cuz my insurance doesn't cover it; I

actually owe them alot already cuz we're broke. This frustrates me, not being

able to come up with a solution for your sister, because i understand what shes

going thru. I finally got state insurance. I wish i could help.

rob<html><div><WBR>No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to

know no one cares or understands.</div></html>

_PainInTheNeck-PainInTheNeck-<WPainInTh_

(mailto:neck pain@...) : _izabelam@..._

(mailto:izabelam@...) : Sat,

9 Feb 2008 17:18:27 -0500Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck-: Sat, 9 Feb 2008

Hi all,I read all posts every day and they are very helpful. I tell my

husband..you are not alone..but now I have a question.My husband's sister lives

in

Tallahassee, Florida and has not insurance. She lost it recently.As soon as

her doctor learned about it, he cut her off on visits, medications, he cut

her prescriptions for pain - she has herniated disk and she had hip surgery.She

is in pain with no insurance, no pain medication.Do you know what to do?I

have not clue?How people without insurance can survive pain?Jump from the

bridge to stop misery?I hope you guys know some resources for medical help when

you poor and have not health insurance?Thank you all for any ideasIzabela

Matej*******Hi all,I read all posts every day and they are very helpful. I

te_http://music.http://music.<WBhttp://muhttp://mushttp://muhttp://music.<WBhttp\

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Rob, you are sure good person.

But you can not be serious thinking :) that doctors can't cut the woman off

pain killers...

they do..they don't' care that she suffered thru withdrawals.

she is as good to them as her money...

she is low income, 52 years old woman looking tired and in pain....

we sent her some money but without prescriptions she can't get the

drug..well....on the streets of Tallahassee..maybe..

and here in Utah lots of people think you are an addict if you need pills...

I know, I am venting.

I have a husband who will be facing disability , for the same reason we all

are here...

back and neck problems......

God help us all..

You all have painless night.

Izabela.

In a message dated 2/10/2008 10:35:00 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,

robgehle@... writes:

first, he can't jus cut her off thats dangerous, and she should threaten him

over this. second she should try going to a clinic with her scripts and they

might try to help her, at least to taper her off if nothing else. have they

tried to get state insurance? I can not think of anything. I have to pay out

of pocket to see my pain management, cuz my insurance doesn't cover it; I

actually owe them alot already cuz we're broke. This frustrates me, not being

able to come up with a solution for your sister, because i understand what shes

going thru. I finally got state insurance. I wish i could help.

rob<html><div><WBR>No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to

know no one cares or understands.</div></html>

_PainInTheNeck-PainInTheNeck-<WPainInTh_

(mailto:neck pain@...) : _izabelam@..._

(mailto:izabelam@...) : Sat,

9 Feb 2008 17:18:27 -0500Subject: Re: [PainInTheNeck-: Sat, 9 Feb 2008

Hi all,I read all posts every day and they are very helpful. I tell my

husband..you are not alone..but now I have a question.My husband's sister lives

in

Tallahassee, Florida and has not insurance. She lost it recently.As soon as

her doctor learned about it, he cut her off on visits, medications, he cut

her prescriptions for pain - she has herniated disk and she had hip surgery.She

is in pain with no insurance, no pain medication.Do you know what to do?I

have not clue?How people without insurance can survive pain?Jump from the

bridge to stop misery?I hope you guys know some resources for medical help when

you poor and have not health insurance?Thank you all for any ideasIzabela

Matej*******Hi all,I read all posts every day and they are very helpful. I

te_http://music.http://music.<WBhttp://muhttp://mushttp://muhttp://music.<WBhttp\

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I got help directly thru the pharmacutical company.

they sent me a form for income for household and i started getting my

150.00 a month meds for free ask your doctor about it thats where

i found out about the help.hope you get the help you need.

>

> thanks.

> I will tell her all the good advises.

> Her income is very low.

> But what is really bad, that there are millions of people like her.

> People without insurance.

> Not always well educated.

> Not always knowing where to turn...

> my God..this is America?

>

> Thank you all.

>

>

>

> In a message dated 2/9/2008 7:53:11 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

> babswc@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> One thing she needs to check to see if the County she is in has a

low income

> funded state clinic where she can at least go to the doctor.. ours

up here

> only charged me 15 dollars a visit until I got on SSDI and

medicare.. also

> some low income people can get on medicaid.. As for meds I dont

know anyway to

> get those without paying the price for them.. unless her income

does qualify

> her for medicaid.. it is worth checking into..

> Hugs Babs

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL

Music.

> (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?

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> 48)

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I got help directly thru the pharmacutical company.

they sent me a form for income for household and i started getting my

150.00 a month meds for free ask your doctor about it thats where

i found out about the help.hope you get the help you need.

>

> thanks.

> I will tell her all the good advises.

> Her income is very low.

> But what is really bad, that there are millions of people like her.

> People without insurance.

> Not always well educated.

> Not always knowing where to turn...

> my God..this is America?

>

> Thank you all.

>

>

>

> In a message dated 2/9/2008 7:53:11 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

> babswc@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> One thing she needs to check to see if the County she is in has a

low income

> funded state clinic where she can at least go to the doctor.. ours

up here

> only charged me 15 dollars a visit until I got on SSDI and

medicare.. also

> some low income people can get on medicaid.. As for meds I dont

know anyway to

> get those without paying the price for them.. unless her income

does qualify

> her for medicaid.. it is worth checking into..

> Hugs Babs

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL

Music.

> (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?

NCID=aolcmp003000000025

> 48)

>

>

>

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I got help directly thru the pharmacutical company.

they sent me a form for income for household and i started getting my

150.00 a month meds for free ask your doctor about it thats where

i found out about the help.hope you get the help you need.

>

> thanks.

> I will tell her all the good advises.

> Her income is very low.

> But what is really bad, that there are millions of people like her.

> People without insurance.

> Not always well educated.

> Not always knowing where to turn...

> my God..this is America?

>

> Thank you all.

>

>

>

> In a message dated 2/9/2008 7:53:11 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

> babswc@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> One thing she needs to check to see if the County she is in has a

low income

> funded state clinic where she can at least go to the doctor.. ours

up here

> only charged me 15 dollars a visit until I got on SSDI and

medicare.. also

> some low income people can get on medicaid.. As for meds I dont

know anyway to

> get those without paying the price for them.. unless her income

does qualify

> her for medicaid.. it is worth checking into..

> Hugs Babs

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL

Music.

> (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?

NCID=aolcmp003000000025

> 48)

>

>

>

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I got help directly thru the pharmacutical company.

they sent me a form for income for household and i started getting my

150.00 a month meds for free ask your doctor about it thats where

i found out about the help.hope you get the help you need.

>

> thanks.

> I will tell her all the good advises.

> Her income is very low.

> But what is really bad, that there are millions of people like her.

> People without insurance.

> Not always well educated.

> Not always knowing where to turn...

> my God..this is America?

>

> Thank you all.

>

>

>

> In a message dated 2/9/2008 7:53:11 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

> babswc@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> One thing she needs to check to see if the County she is in has a

low income

> funded state clinic where she can at least go to the doctor.. ours

up here

> only charged me 15 dollars a visit until I got on SSDI and

medicare.. also

> some low income people can get on medicaid.. As for meds I dont

know anyway to

> get those without paying the price for them.. unless her income

does qualify

> her for medicaid.. it is worth checking into..

> Hugs Babs

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL

Music.

> (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?

NCID=aolcmp003000000025

> 48)

>

>

>

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Thank you Dave.

I talked to my husband we will couch her.

You know..some people are what they are..need to be pushed really hard to be

able to do the walking, knocking and asking...

I hope she will get the help she needs...

Thank you all for help.

In a message dated 2/12/2008 3:08:12 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

d.cruikshank@... writes:

At 03:39 PM 2/10/08, you wrote:

>thanks.

>I will tell her all the good advises.

>Her income is very low.

I know from experience that you can get help. It may differ from

state to state but I was able to get it in PA. I had to humble

myself, not be afraid to ask or stick up for myself. In PA they will

fast track you if your really destitute. you can have emergency Cash

and food stamps in hand in 2-3 days. I also got help from my church,

from other churches, from non government public assistance, and from

the utility company. When I told them I just had back surgery and

couldn't work, the local electric company gave me 3 months free

electric no questions asked. It helped that up until then I had paid

them dutifully for 20 years. I got free food from the foodbank, from

my church group. I was assigned free legal counsel when my food

stamps were rejected. I was rejected ( I don't mean to offend anyone

here ) I was up until that point middle class in a middle class

suburb. After surgery I was thrown into poverty overnight. So now I

was coming into center city looking for help. I didn't fit the

profile so they rejected me outright. I got a free lawyer and

eventually got 6 months back foodstamps plus cash assistance and

medicare. If she has any pain pills left, my suggestion would be to

slowly ease off them until she gets help. I once had to go cold

turkey due to a Dr who thought all I needed was ibuprofen after 2

years of narcotics. It wasn't very pretty. I never want to go

through that again. I've now been on Vicoden and others since Jan

2000, 8 years. I thank God I have a wonderful and understanding

primary care physician Best of blessings to you and yours, Dave

**************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy

Awards. Go to AOL Music.

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Thank you Dave.

I talked to my husband we will couch her.

You know..some people are what they are..need to be pushed really hard to be

able to do the walking, knocking and asking...

I hope she will get the help she needs...

Thank you all for help.

In a message dated 2/12/2008 3:08:12 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

d.cruikshank@... writes:

At 03:39 PM 2/10/08, you wrote:

>thanks.

>I will tell her all the good advises.

>Her income is very low.

I know from experience that you can get help. It may differ from

state to state but I was able to get it in PA. I had to humble

myself, not be afraid to ask or stick up for myself. In PA they will

fast track you if your really destitute. you can have emergency Cash

and food stamps in hand in 2-3 days. I also got help from my church,

from other churches, from non government public assistance, and from

the utility company. When I told them I just had back surgery and

couldn't work, the local electric company gave me 3 months free

electric no questions asked. It helped that up until then I had paid

them dutifully for 20 years. I got free food from the foodbank, from

my church group. I was assigned free legal counsel when my food

stamps were rejected. I was rejected ( I don't mean to offend anyone

here ) I was up until that point middle class in a middle class

suburb. After surgery I was thrown into poverty overnight. So now I

was coming into center city looking for help. I didn't fit the

profile so they rejected me outright. I got a free lawyer and

eventually got 6 months back foodstamps plus cash assistance and

medicare. If she has any pain pills left, my suggestion would be to

slowly ease off them until she gets help. I once had to go cold

turkey due to a Dr who thought all I needed was ibuprofen after 2

years of narcotics. It wasn't very pretty. I never want to go

through that again. I've now been on Vicoden and others since Jan

2000, 8 years. I thank God I have a wonderful and understanding

primary care physician Best of blessings to you and yours, Dave

**************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy

Awards. Go to AOL Music.

(http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)

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Thank you Dave.

I talked to my husband we will couch her.

You know..some people are what they are..need to be pushed really hard to be

able to do the walking, knocking and asking...

I hope she will get the help she needs...

Thank you all for help.

In a message dated 2/12/2008 3:08:12 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

d.cruikshank@... writes:

At 03:39 PM 2/10/08, you wrote:

>thanks.

>I will tell her all the good advises.

>Her income is very low.

I know from experience that you can get help. It may differ from

state to state but I was able to get it in PA. I had to humble

myself, not be afraid to ask or stick up for myself. In PA they will

fast track you if your really destitute. you can have emergency Cash

and food stamps in hand in 2-3 days. I also got help from my church,

from other churches, from non government public assistance, and from

the utility company. When I told them I just had back surgery and

couldn't work, the local electric company gave me 3 months free

electric no questions asked. It helped that up until then I had paid

them dutifully for 20 years. I got free food from the foodbank, from

my church group. I was assigned free legal counsel when my food

stamps were rejected. I was rejected ( I don't mean to offend anyone

here ) I was up until that point middle class in a middle class

suburb. After surgery I was thrown into poverty overnight. So now I

was coming into center city looking for help. I didn't fit the

profile so they rejected me outright. I got a free lawyer and

eventually got 6 months back foodstamps plus cash assistance and

medicare. If she has any pain pills left, my suggestion would be to

slowly ease off them until she gets help. I once had to go cold

turkey due to a Dr who thought all I needed was ibuprofen after 2

years of narcotics. It wasn't very pretty. I never want to go

through that again. I've now been on Vicoden and others since Jan

2000, 8 years. I thank God I have a wonderful and understanding

primary care physician Best of blessings to you and yours, Dave

**************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy

Awards. Go to AOL Music.

(http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)

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Thank you Dave.

I talked to my husband we will couch her.

You know..some people are what they are..need to be pushed really hard to be

able to do the walking, knocking and asking...

I hope she will get the help she needs...

Thank you all for help.

In a message dated 2/12/2008 3:08:12 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

d.cruikshank@... writes:

At 03:39 PM 2/10/08, you wrote:

>thanks.

>I will tell her all the good advises.

>Her income is very low.

I know from experience that you can get help. It may differ from

state to state but I was able to get it in PA. I had to humble

myself, not be afraid to ask or stick up for myself. In PA they will

fast track you if your really destitute. you can have emergency Cash

and food stamps in hand in 2-3 days. I also got help from my church,

from other churches, from non government public assistance, and from

the utility company. When I told them I just had back surgery and

couldn't work, the local electric company gave me 3 months free

electric no questions asked. It helped that up until then I had paid

them dutifully for 20 years. I got free food from the foodbank, from

my church group. I was assigned free legal counsel when my food

stamps were rejected. I was rejected ( I don't mean to offend anyone

here ) I was up until that point middle class in a middle class

suburb. After surgery I was thrown into poverty overnight. So now I

was coming into center city looking for help. I didn't fit the

profile so they rejected me outright. I got a free lawyer and

eventually got 6 months back foodstamps plus cash assistance and

medicare. If she has any pain pills left, my suggestion would be to

slowly ease off them until she gets help. I once had to go cold

turkey due to a Dr who thought all I needed was ibuprofen after 2

years of narcotics. It wasn't very pretty. I never want to go

through that again. I've now been on Vicoden and others since Jan

2000, 8 years. I thank God I have a wonderful and understanding

primary care physician Best of blessings to you and yours, Dave

**************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy

Awards. Go to AOL Music.

(http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)

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At 03:39 PM 2/10/08, you wrote:

>thanks.

>I will tell her all the good advises.

>Her income is very low.

I know from experience that you can get help. It may differ from

state to state but I was able to get it in PA. I had to humble

myself, not be afraid to ask or stick up for myself. In PA they will

fast track you if your really destitute. you can have emergency Cash

and food stamps in hand in 2-3 days. I also got help from my church,

from other churches, from non government public assistance, and from

the utility company. When I told them I just had back surgery and

couldn't work, the local electric company gave me 3 months free

electric no questions asked. It helped that up until then I had paid

them dutifully for 20 years. I got free food from the foodbank, from

my church group. I was assigned free legal counsel when my food

stamps were rejected. I was rejected ( I don't mean to offend anyone

here ) I was up until that point middle class in a middle class

suburb. After surgery I was thrown into poverty overnight. So now I

was coming into center city looking for help. I didn't fit the

profile so they rejected me outright. I got a free lawyer and

eventually got 6 months back foodstamps plus cash assistance and

medicare. If she has any pain pills left, my suggestion would be to

slowly ease off them until she gets help. I once had to go cold

turkey due to a Dr who thought all I needed was ibuprofen after 2

years of narcotics. It wasn't very pretty. I never want to go

through that again. I've now been on Vicoden and others since Jan

2000, 8 years. I thank God I have a wonderful and understanding

primary care physician Best of blessings to you and yours, Dave

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At 03:39 PM 2/10/08, you wrote:

>thanks.

>I will tell her all the good advises.

>Her income is very low.

I know from experience that you can get help. It may differ from

state to state but I was able to get it in PA. I had to humble

myself, not be afraid to ask or stick up for myself. In PA they will

fast track you if your really destitute. you can have emergency Cash

and food stamps in hand in 2-3 days. I also got help from my church,

from other churches, from non government public assistance, and from

the utility company. When I told them I just had back surgery and

couldn't work, the local electric company gave me 3 months free

electric no questions asked. It helped that up until then I had paid

them dutifully for 20 years. I got free food from the foodbank, from

my church group. I was assigned free legal counsel when my food

stamps were rejected. I was rejected ( I don't mean to offend anyone

here ) I was up until that point middle class in a middle class

suburb. After surgery I was thrown into poverty overnight. So now I

was coming into center city looking for help. I didn't fit the

profile so they rejected me outright. I got a free lawyer and

eventually got 6 months back foodstamps plus cash assistance and

medicare. If she has any pain pills left, my suggestion would be to

slowly ease off them until she gets help. I once had to go cold

turkey due to a Dr who thought all I needed was ibuprofen after 2

years of narcotics. It wasn't very pretty. I never want to go

through that again. I've now been on Vicoden and others since Jan

2000, 8 years. I thank God I have a wonderful and understanding

primary care physician Best of blessings to you and yours, Dave

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At 03:39 PM 2/10/08, you wrote:

>thanks.

>I will tell her all the good advises.

>Her income is very low.

I know from experience that you can get help. It may differ from

state to state but I was able to get it in PA. I had to humble

myself, not be afraid to ask or stick up for myself. In PA they will

fast track you if your really destitute. you can have emergency Cash

and food stamps in hand in 2-3 days. I also got help from my church,

from other churches, from non government public assistance, and from

the utility company. When I told them I just had back surgery and

couldn't work, the local electric company gave me 3 months free

electric no questions asked. It helped that up until then I had paid

them dutifully for 20 years. I got free food from the foodbank, from

my church group. I was assigned free legal counsel when my food

stamps were rejected. I was rejected ( I don't mean to offend anyone

here ) I was up until that point middle class in a middle class

suburb. After surgery I was thrown into poverty overnight. So now I

was coming into center city looking for help. I didn't fit the

profile so they rejected me outright. I got a free lawyer and

eventually got 6 months back foodstamps plus cash assistance and

medicare. If she has any pain pills left, my suggestion would be to

slowly ease off them until she gets help. I once had to go cold

turkey due to a Dr who thought all I needed was ibuprofen after 2

years of narcotics. It wasn't very pretty. I never want to go

through that again. I've now been on Vicoden and others since Jan

2000, 8 years. I thank God I have a wonderful and understanding

primary care physician Best of blessings to you and yours, Dave

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At 03:39 PM 2/10/08, you wrote:

>thanks.

>I will tell her all the good advises.

>Her income is very low.

I know from experience that you can get help. It may differ from

state to state but I was able to get it in PA. I had to humble

myself, not be afraid to ask or stick up for myself. In PA they will

fast track you if your really destitute. you can have emergency Cash

and food stamps in hand in 2-3 days. I also got help from my church,

from other churches, from non government public assistance, and from

the utility company. When I told them I just had back surgery and

couldn't work, the local electric company gave me 3 months free

electric no questions asked. It helped that up until then I had paid

them dutifully for 20 years. I got free food from the foodbank, from

my church group. I was assigned free legal counsel when my food

stamps were rejected. I was rejected ( I don't mean to offend anyone

here ) I was up until that point middle class in a middle class

suburb. After surgery I was thrown into poverty overnight. So now I

was coming into center city looking for help. I didn't fit the

profile so they rejected me outright. I got a free lawyer and

eventually got 6 months back foodstamps plus cash assistance and

medicare. If she has any pain pills left, my suggestion would be to

slowly ease off them until she gets help. I once had to go cold

turkey due to a Dr who thought all I needed was ibuprofen after 2

years of narcotics. It wasn't very pretty. I never want to go

through that again. I've now been on Vicoden and others since Jan

2000, 8 years. I thank God I have a wonderful and understanding

primary care physician Best of blessings to you and yours, Dave

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>

> >thanks.

> >I will tell her all the good advises.

> >Her income is very low.

>

> I know from experience that you can get help. It may differ from

> state to state but I was able to get it in PA. I had to humble

> myself, not be afraid to ask or stick up for myself. In PA they

will

> fast track you if your really destitute. you can have emergency

Cash

> and food stamps in hand in 2-3 days. I also got help from my

church,

> from other churches, from non government public assistance, and

from

> the utility company. When I told them I just had back surgery and

> couldn't work, the local electric company gave me 3 months free

> electric no questions asked. It helped that up until then I had

paid

> them dutifully for 20 years. I got free food from the foodbank,

from

> my church group. I was assigned free legal counsel when my food

> stamps were rejected. I was rejected ( I don't mean to offend

anyone

> here ) I was up until that point middle class in a middle class

> suburb. After surgery I was thrown into poverty overnight. So now

I

> was coming into center city looking for help. I didn't fit the

> profile so they rejected me outright. I got a free lawyer and

> eventually got 6 months back foodstamps plus cash assistance and

> medicare. If she has any pain pills left, my suggestion would be

to

> slowly ease off them until she gets help. I once had to go cold

> turkey due to a Dr who thought all I needed was ibuprofen after 2

> years of narcotics. It wasn't very pretty. I never want to go

> through that again. I've now been on Vicoden and others since Jan

> 2000, 8 years. I thank God I have a wonderful and understanding

> primary care physician Best of blessings to you and yours, Dave

>

Dave, You must be from Phili! I'm in Bethlehem. You can also get a

phone if you don't have one for $12/month with limited calling

scope. You are right about quick service if you are homeless or

broke. I worked at Mental Health Crisis House, and we had the county

pay for homeless people to stay until we could get them housing. It

really was a social service issue, but there is no emergency

housing , expect shelters. If you don't get there early, u wouldn't

get a bed. I think Phili probably has more shelters than the Lehigh

Valley. There is only about 5 for Northhamton and Lehigh counties.

I'm glad you found a good doctor to help out with the pain. It took

me 7 1/2 years to get any doctor to believe that I was in so much

pain. They feed me so much Naproxen, that it has no effect on me.

None of the antiinflammatories work anymore. Its sad that in this

country we under treat pain. I read that in Europe it is alot

diffferent. Their health care system is MUCH better. They are more

aggressive in treating pain. Here doctors are afraid that we are all

going to be drug addicts! You do have to tamper off narcotics meds

so you don't have major withdrawal and rebound pain. I hope you are

doing ok. Take care. Tami

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> >thanks.

> >I will tell her all the good advises.

> >Her income is very low.

>

> I know from experience that you can get help. It may differ from

> state to state but I was able to get it in PA. I had to humble

> myself, not be afraid to ask or stick up for myself. In PA they

will

> fast track you if your really destitute. you can have emergency

Cash

> and food stamps in hand in 2-3 days. I also got help from my

church,

> from other churches, from non government public assistance, and

from

> the utility company. When I told them I just had back surgery and

> couldn't work, the local electric company gave me 3 months free

> electric no questions asked. It helped that up until then I had

paid

> them dutifully for 20 years. I got free food from the foodbank,

from

> my church group. I was assigned free legal counsel when my food

> stamps were rejected. I was rejected ( I don't mean to offend

anyone

> here ) I was up until that point middle class in a middle class

> suburb. After surgery I was thrown into poverty overnight. So now

I

> was coming into center city looking for help. I didn't fit the

> profile so they rejected me outright. I got a free lawyer and

> eventually got 6 months back foodstamps plus cash assistance and

> medicare. If she has any pain pills left, my suggestion would be

to

> slowly ease off them until she gets help. I once had to go cold

> turkey due to a Dr who thought all I needed was ibuprofen after 2

> years of narcotics. It wasn't very pretty. I never want to go

> through that again. I've now been on Vicoden and others since Jan

> 2000, 8 years. I thank God I have a wonderful and understanding

> primary care physician Best of blessings to you and yours, Dave

>

Dave, You must be from Phili! I'm in Bethlehem. You can also get a

phone if you don't have one for $12/month with limited calling

scope. You are right about quick service if you are homeless or

broke. I worked at Mental Health Crisis House, and we had the county

pay for homeless people to stay until we could get them housing. It

really was a social service issue, but there is no emergency

housing , expect shelters. If you don't get there early, u wouldn't

get a bed. I think Phili probably has more shelters than the Lehigh

Valley. There is only about 5 for Northhamton and Lehigh counties.

I'm glad you found a good doctor to help out with the pain. It took

me 7 1/2 years to get any doctor to believe that I was in so much

pain. They feed me so much Naproxen, that it has no effect on me.

None of the antiinflammatories work anymore. Its sad that in this

country we under treat pain. I read that in Europe it is alot

diffferent. Their health care system is MUCH better. They are more

aggressive in treating pain. Here doctors are afraid that we are all

going to be drug addicts! You do have to tamper off narcotics meds

so you don't have major withdrawal and rebound pain. I hope you are

doing ok. Take care. Tami

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>

> >thanks.

> >I will tell her all the good advises.

> >Her income is very low.

>

> I know from experience that you can get help. It may differ from

> state to state but I was able to get it in PA. I had to humble

> myself, not be afraid to ask or stick up for myself. In PA they

will

> fast track you if your really destitute. you can have emergency

Cash

> and food stamps in hand in 2-3 days. I also got help from my

church,

> from other churches, from non government public assistance, and

from

> the utility company. When I told them I just had back surgery and

> couldn't work, the local electric company gave me 3 months free

> electric no questions asked. It helped that up until then I had

paid

> them dutifully for 20 years. I got free food from the foodbank,

from

> my church group. I was assigned free legal counsel when my food

> stamps were rejected. I was rejected ( I don't mean to offend

anyone

> here ) I was up until that point middle class in a middle class

> suburb. After surgery I was thrown into poverty overnight. So now

I

> was coming into center city looking for help. I didn't fit the

> profile so they rejected me outright. I got a free lawyer and

> eventually got 6 months back foodstamps plus cash assistance and

> medicare. If she has any pain pills left, my suggestion would be

to

> slowly ease off them until she gets help. I once had to go cold

> turkey due to a Dr who thought all I needed was ibuprofen after 2

> years of narcotics. It wasn't very pretty. I never want to go

> through that again. I've now been on Vicoden and others since Jan

> 2000, 8 years. I thank God I have a wonderful and understanding

> primary care physician Best of blessings to you and yours, Dave

>

Dave, You must be from Phili! I'm in Bethlehem. You can also get a

phone if you don't have one for $12/month with limited calling

scope. You are right about quick service if you are homeless or

broke. I worked at Mental Health Crisis House, and we had the county

pay for homeless people to stay until we could get them housing. It

really was a social service issue, but there is no emergency

housing , expect shelters. If you don't get there early, u wouldn't

get a bed. I think Phili probably has more shelters than the Lehigh

Valley. There is only about 5 for Northhamton and Lehigh counties.

I'm glad you found a good doctor to help out with the pain. It took

me 7 1/2 years to get any doctor to believe that I was in so much

pain. They feed me so much Naproxen, that it has no effect on me.

None of the antiinflammatories work anymore. Its sad that in this

country we under treat pain. I read that in Europe it is alot

diffferent. Their health care system is MUCH better. They are more

aggressive in treating pain. Here doctors are afraid that we are all

going to be drug addicts! You do have to tamper off narcotics meds

so you don't have major withdrawal and rebound pain. I hope you are

doing ok. Take care. Tami

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>

> >thanks.

> >I will tell her all the good advises.

> >Her income is very low.

>

> I know from experience that you can get help. It may differ from

> state to state but I was able to get it in PA. I had to humble

> myself, not be afraid to ask or stick up for myself. In PA they

will

> fast track you if your really destitute. you can have emergency

Cash

> and food stamps in hand in 2-3 days. I also got help from my

church,

> from other churches, from non government public assistance, and

from

> the utility company. When I told them I just had back surgery and

> couldn't work, the local electric company gave me 3 months free

> electric no questions asked. It helped that up until then I had

paid

> them dutifully for 20 years. I got free food from the foodbank,

from

> my church group. I was assigned free legal counsel when my food

> stamps were rejected. I was rejected ( I don't mean to offend

anyone

> here ) I was up until that point middle class in a middle class

> suburb. After surgery I was thrown into poverty overnight. So now

I

> was coming into center city looking for help. I didn't fit the

> profile so they rejected me outright. I got a free lawyer and

> eventually got 6 months back foodstamps plus cash assistance and

> medicare. If she has any pain pills left, my suggestion would be

to

> slowly ease off them until she gets help. I once had to go cold

> turkey due to a Dr who thought all I needed was ibuprofen after 2

> years of narcotics. It wasn't very pretty. I never want to go

> through that again. I've now been on Vicoden and others since Jan

> 2000, 8 years. I thank God I have a wonderful and understanding

> primary care physician Best of blessings to you and yours, Dave

>

Dave, You must be from Phili! I'm in Bethlehem. You can also get a

phone if you don't have one for $12/month with limited calling

scope. You are right about quick service if you are homeless or

broke. I worked at Mental Health Crisis House, and we had the county

pay for homeless people to stay until we could get them housing. It

really was a social service issue, but there is no emergency

housing , expect shelters. If you don't get there early, u wouldn't

get a bed. I think Phili probably has more shelters than the Lehigh

Valley. There is only about 5 for Northhamton and Lehigh counties.

I'm glad you found a good doctor to help out with the pain. It took

me 7 1/2 years to get any doctor to believe that I was in so much

pain. They feed me so much Naproxen, that it has no effect on me.

None of the antiinflammatories work anymore. Its sad that in this

country we under treat pain. I read that in Europe it is alot

diffferent. Their health care system is MUCH better. They are more

aggressive in treating pain. Here doctors are afraid that we are all

going to be drug addicts! You do have to tamper off narcotics meds

so you don't have major withdrawal and rebound pain. I hope you are

doing ok. Take care. Tami

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At 01:31 AM 2/14/2008, you wrote:

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>Dave, You must be from Phili! I'm in Bethlehem.

Actually when I got assistance I lived outside of Lancaster, PA. I

now live in Wyomissing, outside of Reading, PA. I am very blessed to

have a Doctor who believes me, I had to sign papers saying I would

not sell them or Doctor shop or I would lose my prescriptions. I

also must come in for follow up visits, every three months, get

regular liver tests, and the Oxycoton scripts are written with No

refills 90 days worth, so I need to see him everytime I need a new

script. Dave

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At 01:31 AM 2/14/2008, you wrote:

>-

>Dave, You must be from Phili! I'm in Bethlehem.

Actually when I got assistance I lived outside of Lancaster, PA. I

now live in Wyomissing, outside of Reading, PA. I am very blessed to

have a Doctor who believes me, I had to sign papers saying I would

not sell them or Doctor shop or I would lose my prescriptions. I

also must come in for follow up visits, every three months, get

regular liver tests, and the Oxycoton scripts are written with No

refills 90 days worth, so I need to see him everytime I need a new

script. Dave

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At 01:31 AM 2/14/2008, you wrote:

>-

>Dave, You must be from Phili! I'm in Bethlehem.

Actually when I got assistance I lived outside of Lancaster, PA. I

now live in Wyomissing, outside of Reading, PA. I am very blessed to

have a Doctor who believes me, I had to sign papers saying I would

not sell them or Doctor shop or I would lose my prescriptions. I

also must come in for follow up visits, every three months, get

regular liver tests, and the Oxycoton scripts are written with No

refills 90 days worth, so I need to see him everytime I need a new

script. Dave

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At 01:31 AM 2/14/2008, you wrote:

>-

>Dave, You must be from Phili! I'm in Bethlehem.

Actually when I got assistance I lived outside of Lancaster, PA. I

now live in Wyomissing, outside of Reading, PA. I am very blessed to

have a Doctor who believes me, I had to sign papers saying I would

not sell them or Doctor shop or I would lose my prescriptions. I

also must come in for follow up visits, every three months, get

regular liver tests, and the Oxycoton scripts are written with No

refills 90 days worth, so I need to see him everytime I need a new

script. Dave

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Hi Dave,

That is great that your dr gives you your script for 90 days..mine will only

give my opana er and before that morphine for 30 days and I need to pick up the

script every month and take it to the pharmacy..I too live in PA..that gets to

be a pain and most of the time my hubby does it since I am not up to running

around to get it.

I also have vicodin for break thru pain as well

`*`*Kathy*`*`

Stressed is just desserts spelled backwards

A true friend walks in when the rest of the world walks out.

Stars are like friends you may not always see them..but they are always there

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Hi Dave,

That is great that your dr gives you your script for 90 days..mine will only

give my opana er and before that morphine for 30 days and I need to pick up the

script every month and take it to the pharmacy..I too live in PA..that gets to

be a pain and most of the time my hubby does it since I am not up to running

around to get it.

I also have vicodin for break thru pain as well

`*`*Kathy*`*`

Stressed is just desserts spelled backwards

A true friend walks in when the rest of the world walks out.

Stars are like friends you may not always see them..but they are always there

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