Thyroid

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Hi Carolyn,

Yes, I had the saliva test. My morning and afternoon were barely in range

they were so low, and my evening and night were extremely high. That's why

im taking cortef and adrenal supplement the doctor gave me.

So im taking armour, cortef, diflucan, and nystatin.

In a message dated 11/2/2010 5:25:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

carolynmil@... writes:

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This group has been recommended as a great place to get relevant

information on the kind of question you asked:

NaturalThyroidHormones

By the way, have you been tested for Adrenal Fatigue (Saliva test)?

It is my understanding that the Thyroid Numbers will not improve until the

Adrenals are supported. (if AF is present). These 2 glands seem to work

very closely together. I was tested and found to be in mild Adrenal Fatigue.

I am following both the Candida and Adrenal Fatigue protocols.

Additionally, I take Armour Thyroid Extract.

I do believe that Candida and AF are synergistic. One definitely affects

the other, and the toll on the body is intensified when both are present.

Not sure which came first in my case, but I am addressing both. Hope this

helps.

Carolyn

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> Guys,

> Im just wondering if anyone knows what an ideal tsh number is. In the

midst

> of this candida diet and treatment, my doctor has been treating my

thyroid

> which he thought was slightly underactive. It was 3.56 and now after 3

> months of armour it's 1.4. I think it's going too low- I dont want to be

> overactive. He wanted my to increase my dose too. I think it's not a

good idea.

> anyone know about this?

>

> thanks

> tiffany

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I had the same thyroid problems after i had antifungic medicine for 2 weeks,it

was diflucan .Than made my simptoms sooo bad. I had my TSH 0.01 .They put me in

the hyperthyroid part and they say i have Basedow Graves or Hashimoto... i think

its just a bad reaction of the body having killed such manny candida inside the

body. I stopped diflucan cuz its made me feel sooo bad...i though i ll die. Now

i am better and i prepare miself to attack candida on natural way.

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From: " daisytiff228@... " <daisytiff228@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 10:32:45 AM

Subject: Re: Re: thyroid

Thank you all for your responses. I did have ALL the thyroid levels

checked.

In July, it was:

TSH: 3.56 (.27-4.2)

Free T4: 1.32 (.93-1.7)

Free T3: 3.7 (2.57-4.43)

Now, 3 months after taking Armour, it seems the T4 and T3 are going down

which I dont understand.

The numbers just recently were:

TSH: 1.46

Free T4: .95

Free T3: 2.8

Im not feeling well, but again, Im on support for candida (diflucan,

nystatin, diet) and adrenals (cortef and adrenal glandulars) so I have no idea

what's causing what. Im just trying to figure out what's going on with the

thyroid because im not sure why the numbers are going down and I dont want

to cause myself worse problems. If anyone has any experience let me know.

Thanks again for the help,

In a message dated 11/2/2010 5:25:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

carolynmil@... writes:

,

This group has been recommended as a great place to get relevant

information on the kind of question you asked:

NaturalThyroidHormones

By the way, have you been tested for Adrenal Fatigue (Saliva test)?

It is my understanding that the Thyroid Numbers will not improve until the

Adrenals are supported. (if AF is present). These 2 glands seem to work

very closely together. I was tested and found to be in mild Adrenal Fatigue.

I am following both the Candida and Adrenal Fatigue protocols.

Additionally, I take Armour Thyroid Extract.

I do believe that Candida and AF are synergistic. One definitely affects

the other, and the toll on the body is intensified when both are present.

Not sure which came first in my case, but I am addressing both. Hope this

helps.

Carolyn

>

> Guys,

> Im just wondering if anyone knows what an ideal tsh number is. In the

midst

> of this candida diet and treatment, my doctor has been treating my

thyroid

> which he thought was slightly underactive. It was 3.56 and now after 3

> months of armour it's 1.4. I think it's going too low- I dont want to be

> overactive. He wanted my to increase my dose too. I think it's not a

good idea.

> anyone know about this?

>

> thanks

> tiffany

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

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Hi,

I have thyroid problems and NO it didn't cause any problems at all. As a mater fact after losing 105 pounds my thyroid started to work much better. I only take 1/4 of the medication that I used to take. Go for it and have the sleeve, that is the best thing you will ever do for yourself.

I started out at 225 and now weigh120.

Suzanne

In a message dated 11/23/2010 1:23:03 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, mail2.chanel@... writes:

Hello. I'm on the fence about getting the Sleeve because I have Hypothyrodism and have since considered getting the Mini Gastric Bypass. I weigh 210 and I would like to lose 88 pounds ( in my dreams) but I guess 75 pounds would safice. Anyone know if having a thyroid problem hinders you from reaching your goal? Does anyone have a thyroid problem and has had the sleeve ?

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I have low thyroid and take medicine for that. Im not sure how low I just take the Meds the dr says to take. Anyway I had surg.8 months ago and have lost 85 lbs. I am not ultra careful with my carb intake but am still able to loose- i would probably loose more if i were harder on myself but I am SO happy with my loss.

From: L Chanel <mail2.chanel@...>Subject: Thyroid Date: Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 8:58 PM

Hello. I'm on the fence about getting the Sleeve because I have Hypothyrodism and have since considered getting the Mini Gastric Bypass. I weigh 210 and I would like to lose 88 pounds ( in my dreams) but I guess 75 pounds would safice. Anyone know if having a thyroid problem hinders you from reaching your goal? Does anyone have a thyroid problem and has had the sleeve ?

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Hi,I have not reached goal yet but I am down 90 pounds since my surgery in March. I still have to take my thyroid meds everyday but I would to have done that anyways. I am 34 pounds till goal. From: L Chanel <mail2.chanel@...>Subject: Thyroid Date: Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 12:58 PM

Hello. I'm on the fence about getting the Sleeve because I have Hypothyrodism and have since considered getting the Mini Gastric Bypass. I weigh 210 and I would like to lose 88 pounds ( in my dreams) but I guess 75 pounds would safice. Anyone know if having a thyroid problem hinders you from reaching your goal? Does anyone have a thyroid problem and has had the sleeve ?

[Guest guest]

mgb?? That is not a safe surgery. just as plication, only the bottom

feeder surgeons even DO that procedure. MGB was the original bypass

and doctors realized how bad it was and the better surgeons decided

not to do it. Today we have the safer gastric bypass. MGB is

technically easier to do than full bypass, but again better surgeons

who want safe weight loss do not do MGB.

Stick with the sleeve if you want to live.

On 11/23/10, L Chanel <mail2.chanel@...> wrote:

> Hello. I'm on the fence about getting the Sleeve because I have

> Hypothyrodism and have since considered getting the Mini Gastric Bypass. I

> weigh 210 and I would like to lose 88 pounds ( in my dreams) but I guess 75

> pounds would safice. Anyone know if having a thyroid problem hinders you

> from reaching your goal? Does anyone have a thyroid problem and has had the

> sleeve ?

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With normal thyroid labs (with meds) weight loss is absolutely no

different from those with no thyroid problems.

On 11/23/10, Kahn <t_y_kahn@...> wrote:

> Hi,I have not reached goal yet but I am down 90 pounds since my surgery in

> March. I still have to take my thyroid meds everyday but I would to have

> done that anyways. I am 34 pounds till goal.

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I have hypothyroidism and it was not a problem at all. I was able to decrease my medication after I lost some weight. Don't let this stop you.>>> "L Chanel" <mail2.chanel@...> 11/23/2010 3:58 PM >>> Hello. I'm on the fence about getting the Sleeve because I have Hypothyrodism and have since considered getting the Mini Gastric Bypass. I weigh 210 and I would like to lose 88 pounds ( in my dreams) but I guess 75 pounds would safice. Anyone know if having a thyroid problem hinders you from reaching your goal? Does anyone have a thyroid problem and has had the sleeve ?

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Hi all

I have been taking LDN since October 09 and am a lot better since starting it.I was in a bad way and although I have had underactive thyroid for 20years it is the past 4 that I suffered after giving up smoking 60 a day.I have seen an endicrinologist on the NHS (no good) but in the end it was my own research which helped.I found LDN looking for help for my best friend who was diagnosed 3 yeasr ago with MS age 49.

I now find that I am suffering from low mood.I have not had this feeling since my son was born and he will be 28 next week.I suffered post natal depression then.I hate the thought of anti depressents and think it must be my hormones (or lack of them) causing this dark feeling.I hate the thought of HRT and did try the "natural" progesterone cream which was onlly slightly helpful.I take thyroxine 125mcg per day and have regular blood tests.I take 3.5 LDN per night.I also suffer from Lican Planus which was discovered in OCt 09 which is why I started the LDN.

I am wondering if I should buy some Tineptine (stablon) as I have heard they are different to usual anti depressents???? Can anyone offer any advise and would it be ok to take with LDN and thyroxine.LDN from my GP "off Label"

Sorry for being so long

Margaret

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I have been taking 5htp for more than 10 years and it has been extremely

helpful for depression and pain relief (for fibromyalgia). I had a series

of extreme stressors and had a health breakdown which led me to LDN, but I

find I still need the 5HTP for optimal functioning.

I think 5htp is an excellent choice because it is the natural extract of a

flower seed native to South Africa, it easily enters the brain where it is

the precursor to serotonin, and it makes more sense to me to take steps to

give the brain more serotonin than simply conserving what little serotonin

there may be available (and running out of serotonin to conserve is why

many SSRIs stop working over time). So the process has described is

a good one, it's just that why take a drug (stablon) when you can take a

nutritive seed?

I have felt much better since taking digestive enzymes. I take the lowest

cost one (in a yellow label) from Whole Foods own label, just double or

triple my dose. Doesn't have to be super expensive, at least in my experience.

You might want to consider changing to Armour or NatureThroid or

WestThroid, they are whole thyroid hormones, with both T4 and T3. Many

people do better with both, despite medical science's scepticism. I became

a different person when I changed to whole thyroid-- for the first time

since diagnosis and treatment, I felt like my energy was coming from inside

of me again, instead of imposed from the outside. That feeling has remained.

Also, anyone with thyroid issues is deficient in iodine (although most

people are anyway). The Iodine Protocol is indispensable to me. check it

out at:

iodine/ I've been so happy because

after an initial weight gain following the start of LDN and then the Iodine

Protocol 16 months ago, I've lost 35 or more pounds. This tells me my

thyroid issues have finally achieved adequate treatment, as I was a skinny

kid with a high metabolism.

best wishes,

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At 08:35 AM 4/19/2011, you wrote:

>Margaret, this is not medical advice, but I suggest you may try

>tagamet afore trying stablon.

>I have used stablon off and on for ten years, great to boost energy

>and socializing. Very safe, no sides to speak of, can start and stop

>at anytime.

>Tagamet, an over the counter anti-acid slows the metabolism of

>estrogen, and the end result would be more estrogen in your body. I am

>male, and it gave me erectile dysfunction because of the increase of

>estrogen. It does cause gyno, male breast development in males.

>Tag will stop digestion, as it neutralizes the hydrochloric acid in

>our stomach, so it must be taken two to three hours after a meal. An

>ideal situation would be to take some Betaine HCL with your meal, then

>tag three hours later.

>I was taking two tabs daily, but you would decide your dosage by how

>you may feel.

>Ninety percent of our serotonin, the feel good neuro-transmitter is

>made in the small intestines, although medics tell us, that serotonin

>does not reach the brain. Serotonin increase is what most anti

>depressants attempt to do, stablon encourages serotonin to work mroe

>effeciently.. It does make some sense, if the small intestines are

>producing sufficient amounts of serotonin, the body can send along to

>the brain, more pre-cursors, 5HTP, to the brain to make serotonin. No

>one can argue with that.

>So proper digestion is important to resolve depression, 5HTP is the

>precursor to serotonin, so it must be digested and metabolized and

>then hauled to our brain. and we smile.

>So you might consider taking Betaine HCL, digestive enzymes, tagamet.

>I think a great protocol for post meno females, there should be no

>sides. But just my personal opinion. stay vertical,

>david lubbock tx.

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>On 4/19/11, margaret mcguinness <mrgrtmcguinness@...> wrote:

> > Hi all

> >

> > I have been taking LDN since October 09 and am a lot better since starting

> > it.I

> > was in a bad way and although I have had underactive thyroid for

> 20years it

> > is

> > the past 4 that I suffered after giving up smoking 60 a day.I have seen an

> > endicrinologist on the NHS (no good) but in the end it was my own research

> > which

> > helped.I found LDN looking for help for my best friend who was diagnosed 3

> > yeasr

> > ago with MS age 49.

> >

> > I now find that I am suffering from low mood.I have not had this feeling

> > since

> > my son was born and he will be 28 next week.I suffered post natal

> depression

> > then.I hate the thought of anti depressents and think it must be my

> hormones

> > (or

> > lack of them) causing this dark feeling.I hate the thought of HRT and did

> > try

> > the " natural " progesterone cream which was onlly slightly helpful.I take

> > thyroxine 125mcg per day and have regular blood tests.I take 3.5 LDN per

> > night.I

> > also suffer from Lican Planus which was discovered in OCt 09 which is why I

> > started the LDN.

> >

> > I am wondering if I should buy some Tineptine (stablon) as I have heard

> they

> > are

> > different to usual anti depressents???? Can anyone offer any advise and

> > would it

> > be ok to take with LDN and thyroxine.LDN from my GP " off Label "

> >

> > Sorry for being so long

> > Margaret

>

>

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>

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If serotonine is the problem why not 5HTP supplement.

5-HTP: The Natural Way to Overcome Depression, Obesity, and Insomnia

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[Guest guest]

It sounds to me that your thyroid needs more help. LDN and thyroid meds are not

a problem, as far as I know (I take LDN and T3).

Jaye

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> Hi all

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> I have been taking LDN since October 09 and am a lot better since starting

it.I

> was in a bad way and although I have had underactive thyroid  for 20years it

is

> the past 4  that I suffered after giving up smoking 60 a day.I have seen an

> endicrinologist on the NHS (no good) but in the end it was my own research

which

> helped.I found LDN looking for help for my best friend who was diagnosed 3

yeasr

> ago with MS age 49.

>

> I now find that I am suffering from low mood.I have not had this feeling since

> my son was born and he will be 28 next week.I suffered post natal depression

> then.I hate the thought of anti depressents and think it must be my hormones

(or

> lack of them) causing this dark feeling.I hate the thought of HRT and did try

> the " natural " progesterone cream which was onlly slightly helpful.I take

> thyroxine 125mcg per day and have regular blood tests.I take 3.5 LDN per

night.I

> also suffer from Lican Planus which was discovered in OCt 09 which is why I

> started the LDN.

>

> I am wondering if I should buy some Tineptine (stablon) as I have heard they

are

> different to usual anti depressents???? Can anyone offer any advise and would

it

> be ok to take with LDN and thyroxine.LDN from my GP " off Label "

>

> Sorry for being so long

> Margaret  

>

[Guest guest]

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> I now find that I am suffering from low mood.I have not had this feeling since

my son was born and he will be 28 next week.I suffered post natal depression

then.I hate the thought of anti depressents and think it must be my hormones (or

lack of them) causing this dark feeling.I hate the thought of HRT and did try

the " natural " progesterone cream which was onlly slightly helpful.I take

thyroxine 125mcg per day and have regular blood tests.I take 3.5 LDN per night.I

also suffer from Lican Planus which was discovered in OCt 09 which is why I

started the LDN.

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Please don't hate the idea of taking bio-identical hormones. They are a life

saver for many of us. These are the same hormones that you body made when you

were young and healthy and vibrant. Why would they be a bad thing today?

DO NOT consider taking PremPro or Premarin, as they are not bio-identical and

have been proven to increase all of the things that natural hormones protect the

body against, like stroke and heart attack. There is a huge difference, but

nobody here will be surprised to find out that Premarin and PremPro can be

patented and sold for big bucks, and the natural hormones cannot be patented, so

they do not make nearly so much money, and are not promoted.

Pick up a book or two by Suzanne Somers. I like Half.com and you can find them

here:

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I suggest Knockout for those with cancer and The Sexy Years for hormones (you

can hardly beat it at $.75!)

We started with a good hormone and nutrition doctor in Austin TX several years

ago, but then moved to Bowling Green KY. There was nobody in the area to go to,

even as far as Nashville TN. So, we traveled to Texas once or twice a year and

since we were established, could just have the prescriptions shipped to us.

The real kicker was when I went to local doctors for my uterine cancer. They all

shook their heads, knowing that the hormones had caused my cancer. I paid extra

after the surgery to have the tumor tested for receptors, and was vindicated to

find that it did NOT have receptors for either estrogen or progesterone. Many

doctors today are idiots, and not at all informed on natural ways to stay

healthy. I did not stop either of them after diagnosis, or before or after

surgery to remove the tumor.

The only thing that I would give them up for is my LDN. But then, I think that

one of the reasons that I had such good luck with LDN was BECAUSE I also added

the hormones, thyroid treatment, and got on a healthy diet. I am not perfect on

any of them, but really do make an effort to keep up these things: LDN,

bio-identical hormones, a fresh food diet as much as possible and supplements

like iodine and vitamin D.

Please read a bit about bio-identical hormones and see if they are not exactly

the final point that you need to come back to good health and a positive

outlook.

Sincerely,

Francie