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Posted May 4, 2005 · May 4, 2005

Thanks Debby, one thing I disagree with in the diet is " no dairy " . I would say,

no dairy if it is pasteurized, but " YES " dairy if it is whole raw milk. Major

difference here!

Thanks! Rose Marie

Posted May 5, 2005 · May 5, 2005

Please note: Raw milk is excellent for making a kefir drink (and yogurt)...

The kefir grows by " eating " the lactose making the raw milk lactose-free.

Also, raw milk is a far, far superior product than the junk we find at the

supermarket. The milk at the supermarket (even organic milk) is pasteurized and

homogenized which changes the molecular structure vastly! Sure it may give

it a looooooong shelve life, but it's terrible for the body!

The milk industry should be ashamed for not offering raw, organic milk to

the public. It's illegal to retail in many states! Ridicules!

Buy raw milk if you can and make some kefir... It will send your Candida

running like hell!

In Health & Happiness,

Posted May 5, 2005 · May 5, 2005

Have you ever read Neanderthin? There are good

reasons for us not eating dairy, and it's a very

common allergen! Also candida can feed on the lactose

in dairy.

Also, know many who have had a lot more success with

weight loss without dairy. A friend of mine went from

a complete three month weight loss stall, to losing 7

pounds in two weeks by just giving up cheese.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- rose marie belforti <todo2@...> wrote:

> Thanks Debby, one thing I disagree with in the diet

> is " no dairy " . I would say, no dairy if it is

> pasteurized, but " YES " dairy if it is whole raw

> milk. Major difference here!

> Thanks! Rose Marie

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Posted May 5, 2005 · May 5, 2005

I disagree wholeheartedly! Raw milk is like blood. It is a healer! Check

www.realmilk.com articles!

Aand I drink massive amounts of milk and my candida is going away!!!

Also, I do not have a weight problem, so not sure what you are refering to

there.

Rose Marie

Posted May 5, 2005 · May 5, 2005

Debby,

We're glad that you feel great!

It's great to see a vegan/vegetarian successfully combat Candida.

I was vegetarian then vegan for over five years. But my luck was not as

good. Of course, our goal is to get our Candida within normal limits and

everyone's path to success will be unique.

I'm familiar with the research regarding pasteurized milk. And my own unique

path has been more in line with Bee's sage advice on this forum - which

includes homemade kefir.

My suggestions (Bee's suggestions) for milk are for raw milk. There's a huge

difference between raw milk and the milk sold at the grocery store.

In Health & Happiness,

PS For further raw milk research, look at _www.mercola.com_

(http://www.mercola.com)

PPS Kefir grain is very effective at killing Candida overgrowth and can be

made with many vegan sources. (Coconut juice, almond milk, rice milk, etc.)

Posted May 5, 2005 · May 5, 2005

Since I believe that the best foods for us are

paleolithic foods, and dairy is not paleolithic, I

don't believe it's good for you. I wouldn't make any

Kefir, yugurt or cheese or anything else with dairy in

it.

Have you read Neanderthin? Also, check out

http://www.notmilk.com

Some Paleo sites:

http://www.earth360.com/diet_paleodiet_balzer.html

http://www.nerdheaven.dk/~jevk/paleo_intro.php

http://www.healingcrow.com/dietsmain/paleo/paleo.html

http://www.naturalhub.com/opinion_right_food_for_the_human_animal.htm

Do you really think our ancestors were running around

trying to milk wild buffaloes?

I don't eat technology foods.. and I feel great!

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- theindiancreek@... wrote:

> Please note: Raw milk is excellent for making a

> kefir drink (and yogurt)...

> The kefir grows by " eating " the lactose making the

> raw milk lactose-free.

>

> Also, raw milk is a far, far superior product than

> the junk we find at the

> supermarket. The milk at the supermarket (even

> organic milk) is pasteurized and

> homogenized which changes the molecular structure

> vastly! Sure it may give

> it a looooooong shelve life, but it's terrible for

> the body!

>

> The milk industry should be ashamed for not offering

> raw, organic milk to

> the public. It's illegal to retail in many states!

> Ridicules!

>

> Buy raw milk if you can and make some kefir... It

> will send your Candida

> running like hell!

>

> In Health & Happiness,

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Posted May 6, 2005 · May 6, 2005

I thought lactose is one of the 8 essential saccharides as described in the

book Sugars that Heal. The proper sugars are needed in the body for good

cell communication (which translates to good immune function and therefore

the ability to control candida).

Also, I love raw milk and cheeses. I don't have a weight problem. I weigh

112 pounds, and I'm 5'3 " .

-- Re: new member

Have you ever read Neanderthin? There are good

reasons for us not eating dairy, and it's a very

common allergen! Also candida can feed on the lactose

in dairy.

Also, know many who have had a lot more success with

weight loss without dairy. A friend of mine went from

a complete three month weight loss stall, to losing 7

pounds in two weeks by just giving up cheese.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- rose marie belforti <todo2@...> wrote:

> Thanks Debby, one thing I disagree with in the diet

> is " no dairy " . I would say, no dairy if it is

> pasteurized, but " YES " dairy if it is whole raw

> milk. Major difference here!

> Thanks! Rose Marie

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Posted May 6, 2005 · May 6, 2005

> Since I believe that the best foods for us are

> paleolithic foods, and dairy is not paleolithic, I

> don't believe it's good for you.

That common dogma about " dairy " is counterproductive. I would

specifically remove " cold-processed whey " from the dairy blanket

statement and use lots of it. It's easily assimilated with a minimum

of digestion and it has properties that make it one of the " miracle

nutraceuticals " .

In fact, cold processed whey is the best source not only for protein

intake but for glutathione precursors. When glutathione levels are

high, infection and degneration are reduced or eliminated;

conversely, when glutathione levels are low, infection of all types

is actually STIMULATED and the body undergoes enough oxidative stress

to produce a degenerative condition.

The above has considerable impact on people with bad bowel

conditions, which produce toxin load. Glutathione can be completely

depleted at the site of injury, and glutathione is chronically low in

people with disease. This results in a lot more damage than one would

care to accommodate.

Glutathione is well-researched in the medical archives. Here's a

sample; fill yer boots:

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/GSH_medline.html

Duncan Crow

Posted May 6, 2005 · May 6, 2005

--- marla <talithakumi@...> wrote:

> I thought lactose is one of the 8 essential

> saccharides as described in the

> book Sugars that Heal. The proper sugars are needed

> in the body for good

> cell communication (which translates to good immune

> function and therefore

> the ability to control candida).

Dairy is a very common allergen. Our ancestors didn't

eat/drink it so neither do I. I believe our bodies

are still designed to consume what our ancestors were

eating for 2 million years.

> Also, I love raw milk and cheeses. I don't have a

> weight problem. I weigh

> 112 pounds, and I'm 5'3 " .

I mentioned the weight thing for two reasons. One,

it's believed that obesity is a symptom of an immune

system disorder. So it would follow that if you are

healing your immune system with the foods you eat and

don't eat for that matter, then you would lose weight.

It also shows what a profound effect dairy had on this

individual's ability to lose weight. If dairy is

doing well for you, raw or not, then great, have at

it. We all have to make our own decisions right?

There is a wealth of information out there that I am

sure will say it's the best thing in the world, and a

lot of information that will say it is terrible. It's

up to you to sift through the information and make

your own decision, and listen to your body.

Personally, I have noticed a marked decrease in

cravings for sugar since cutting out dairy. Also, a

significant weight loss. Your body, your science

experiment.

Many candida websites and books say no dairy, others

say it's OK.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

Luv,

Debby

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Posted May 6, 2005 · May 6, 2005

Hi .. I'm not a vegan, what made you think that?

I'm a serious carnivore. I follow the Neanderthin

plan, for health and weight loss, with a combination

of anti-candida diet. It's called gold standard

(http://www.conniems.com) and has helped me a lot.

While I appreciate that there is a difference between

raw milk and pasteurized, I still believe that it is a

technology food that my ancestors did not have,

especially being the old blood type O.

I wouldn't have kefir either, because I do not do

grains. And while the toxins in kefir may kill

candida, I have to wonder what else those toxins are

doing to my body.

I'm much more inclined to eat copious amounts of

garlic, onions, oil of oregano, aloe, etc., and starve

the candida by eating no sugar.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- theindiancreek@... wrote:

> Debby,

>

> We're glad that you feel great!

>

> It's great to see a vegan/vegetarian successfully

> combat Candida.

>

> I was vegetarian then vegan for over five years. But

> my luck was not as

> good. Of course, our goal is to get our Candida

> within normal limits and

> everyone's path to success will be unique.

>

> I'm familiar with the research regarding pasteurized

> milk. And my own unique

> path has been more in line with Bee's sage advice on

> this forum - which

> includes homemade kefir.

>

> My suggestions (Bee's suggestions) for milk are for

> raw milk. There's a huge

> difference between raw milk and the milk sold at the

> grocery store.

>

> In Health & Happiness,

>

> PS For further raw milk research, look at

> _www.mercola.com_

> (http://www.mercola.com)

> PPS Kefir grain is very effective at killing Candida

> overgrowth and can be

> made with many vegan sources. (Coconut juice, almond

> milk, rice milk, etc.)

>

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Posted May 6, 2005 · May 6, 2005

I explained what I meant about weight in my other

post. Obesity is thought to be an immune system

disorder, and so losing weight by removing dairy is a

sign that the immune system is healing itself.

If you like to drink milk, great. I personally find

that milk upsets my stomach and causes massive

cravings. Comparing milk to blood is ridiculous in my

opinion. Since when do we as a species require

drinking another animal's milk to survive? Our

ancestors didn't chase wild buffalo and milk them, I

am sure.

Since I'm not a baby cow, no milk for me thanks. I

was weaned a long time ago.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- rose marie belforti <todo2@...> wrote:

> I disagree wholeheartedly! Raw milk is like blood.

> It is a healer! Check www.realmilk.com articles!

> Aand I drink massive amounts of milk and my candida

> is going away!!!

> Also, I do not have a weight problem, so not sure

> what you are refering to there.

> Rose Marie

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Posted May 6, 2005 · May 6, 2005

Deb, the milk being blood is not my idea. go to www.realmilk.com and read Dr.

Crew's article. He ran the mayo clinic in the 1930's and did raw milk

treatments. This idea is a 19th century medical thought that has been forgotten

because all attention is now on modern drugs as cures.

Please look at the site. It is important!

And by the way, I do not have a weight problem, don't know where you got that

idea

Rose Marie

Posted May 6, 2005 · May 6, 2005

> --- marla <talithakumi@...> wrote:

> > I thought lactose is one of the 8 essential

> > saccharides as described in the

> > book Sugars that Heal. The proper sugars are needed

> > in the body for good

> > cell communication (which translates to good immune

> > function and therefore

> > the ability to control candida).

(not lactose)

Glucose, Galactose, Mannose, Fucose, Xylose, N-Acetylglucosamine, N-

Acetylgalactosamine, and N-Acetylneuraminic acid.

Glucose can be used by candida and other pathogens and we get lots of

it in the diet so I skip that one as a supplement.

> Dairy is a very common allergen. Our ancestors didn't

> eat/drink it so neither do I. I believe our bodies

> are still designed to consume what our ancestors were

> eating for 2 million years.

That's only partly true, taken from the NDD -- the No Dairy Dogma.

Here's what the science tells us:

Milk from different animals can contain proteins that can produce a

reaction in some people.

However, it's a little different story with whey; the bulk of the

foreign proteins have been removed before the whey concentrate is

spray dried. Further processing yields a high-quality product that

contains the components that are common in human milk and that of

the rest of the mammals. These native proteins do not produce a

reaction because they form the basis of the only obligatory food

mammals are built to utilize, and do so by a well-worn and reliably

functional pathway.

> I mentioned the weight thing for two reasons. One,

> it's believed that obesity is a symptom of an immune

> system disorder. So it would follow that if you are

> healing your immune system with the foods you eat and

> don't eat for that matter, then you would lose weight.

An arly symptom perhaps; early on the toxins can be held in the fatty

tissues, sometimes resulting in an immune system disorder, cancer,

fatigue, high blood pressure, fast heart rate, confusion or brain

fog, insomnia, and general degeneration due to cell senescence and

cell death.

But as the person wastes he or she won't be heavy anymore; autoimmune

disorders usually waste a person away to nothing due to the cell

senescence and cell death.

> Many candida websites and books say no dairy, others

> say it's OK.

We've never had an issue using high-quality whey in a candida

condition. Perhaps it's because the lactose has been removed.

I think pople should learn the difference between dairy and whey.

This is more than a nuance or nitpicking; high quality whey can play

a pivotal role in wellness.

Duncan Crow

Posted May 6, 2005 · May 6, 2005

--- rose marie belforti <todo2@...> wrote:

> Deb, the milk being blood is not my idea. go to

> www.realmilk.com and read Dr. Crew's article. He ran

> the mayo clinic in the 1930's and did raw milk

> treatments. This idea is a 19th century medical

> thought that has been forgotten because all

> attention is now on modern drugs as cures.

I read the article and was not impressed. Other

things were done in conjuction with the milk

treatments, who is to say those weren't what made a

difference?

> Please look at the site. It is important!

You choose to believe dairy is good for you, because

of what you have read. I have read other things that

have convinced me that it is bad. You have to choose

your own beliefs.

> And by the way, I do not have a weight problem,

> don't know where you got that idea

I never ever said you did. Don't kwow where *you* got

that idea. I was giving an example where the removal

of dairy from someone's diet made a positive

difference, and you took that to mean something I did

not even imply.

You interpreted what I said to mean that I was

implying you are fat. Your interpretation is

completely non sequitur.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

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Posted May 13, 2005 · May 13, 2005

---Now the reason I just joined this group is because I am looking

for new ways to

continue dealing with the yeast, because I sure would like to see it

totally

gone!!!

ok one of the biggest problems outlined is elimination problems

have a look at his article from the edgar cayce files

Cayce apple detox

Will you kindly advise me what the Jenneting variety apples are,

where they grow and where they can be

purchased. " [4/23/35 EC wrote that he had made some inquiries and

thought it was the same variety as Delicious, Arkansas Black, and

the Russet, " and there is one, of course, called the original

Jenneting.

At least for three days - two days or three days - take NOTHING

except APPLES - RAW APPLES! Of course, coffee may be taken if so

desired, but no other foods but the raw apples. And then after the

last meal of apples on the third day, or upon retiring on that

evening following the last meal of apples, drink half a cup of Olive

Oil.This will tend to cleanse the system.

What causes the body to have bilious attacks so frequently? (A) As

indicated, the lack of the proper activity through the gall duct

and the lacteal duct areas, produced by the reaction of sedative

forces upon the system.

Hence the cleansing through the Apple and Olive Oil diet is

advisable to be taken about once a month.

DON'T TRY TO WORK LIKE A HORSE WHEN YOU ARE ON THE APPLE DIET! or

else we will find it will be more detrimental than helpful! But

these cleansings will prevent the accumulations of gas, the

pressures that make for the neuritis through the portions of the

body. But just be consistent.

What causes the condition in left side of face, especially ear?As

just given, neuritis! Poisons in the stomach, poor eliminations,

overtaxation! It's just been outlined!

What will relieve the swelling of my stomach after I eat?

Just as indicated. Not until the poisons are eliminated and there

is consistence in the eating and in the activity may these

conditions be eradicated from the system.

As a gargle we would use Glyco-Thymoline of morning and Listerine

of afternoon or evening. Use both full strength. If a little bit is

swallowed, it doesn't matter, but gargle or paint the palate with

this; preferably gargle, as that swallowed would be an antiseptic,

good for those conditions in the alimentary canal.

For the pain in side, coming from congestion in liver area, we

would use Castor Oil Packs for an hour and a half each day for three

days in succession, using these at the same time each day - as hot

as the body can stand.

Follow the series of Packs with at least two tablespoonsful of Olive

Oil taken internally.

It would be well for this body, even after this, to have a three-day

apple diet, even in its weakened condition we need to clear the

system. For this will get rid of the tendencies for neuritic

conditions in the joints of the body. Also take the Olive Oil after

the three-day diet. But don't go without the apples - eat them -

all you can - at least five or six apples each day. Chew them up,

scrape them well. Drink plenty of water, and follow the three-day

diet with the big dose of Olive Oil.

Are the apples we have in the house, that were gotten this morning

for the body, alright for this?

Alright for this. Those that pertain to those activities of the

variety of the apple, or the

jenneting; the Black Arkansas, the Oregon Red, (which are the ones

you have here), the Sheepnose, the Delicious, the Arkansas Russet;

any of those that are of the jenneting variety.

DO NOT attempt to use the Apple Diet as a cleanser, if using the Oil

Packs.

Why did the Apple Diet fail and was it harmful?As we find, this

would not have failed if there had

not been the needs for undue changes during those periods. It is

often necessary for this to be repeated more than once, to become

really effective.

But first the system needs cleansing with the Oil Packs and then the

apple diet, before beginning to build it up.

Other cleansing routines

(Q) What is the condition of the kidneys? (A) These are overtaxed,

as has been indicated, and as has

been given from the very character of the properties for the

cleansing of the system. First the FRUIT salts, you see, with

properties that act upon the hepatic circulation to drain the

kidneys or those tendencies for accumulations, and not to irritate

same. Then the second cleansing, with the properties to cleanse the

upper portion of the hepatic circulation and the gall duct area -

which to be sure is a portion of the hepatic disturbance. atomic

iodine; one minim each morning in half a glass of water, before any

meal is taken.

11. Then after this has been taken for at least five days,

take a

thorough purging of the system. As we find, the best

for

this would be the Zilatone Tablets, taken in this

manner:

12. Two tablets half an hour after the morning meal. Two

tablets

upon retiring in the evening. Before arising the next

morning take the Eno Salts; a full tablespoonful in a

teaglass of water. Lie upon the right side until

there is

sufficient activity in system for this to cleanse the

body.

13. Then the Atomidine may be left off for a period of

four to

five days. Then begin again, taking one minim of

mornings

before any meal is taken. After taking these

properties in

this manner for two weeks, then take another thorough

cleansing with the Zilatone, you see; but THIS time we

would

- rather than the Eno Salts (which is, of course a

FRUIT

salts) - take the Fleet's Phospho-Soda, which makes

for a

different reaction; for this, to be sure, is of a metal

compound; and we would take of this two teaspoonsful

in a

full glass of WARM water.

14. This then should have so exercised the activities of

the

glandular system that with this we will cleanse the

gall

duct, we will cleanse the whole of the system.

the system here; cleanse it thoroughly. Stimulate the

liver

and cleanse so as to eliminate all the poisons that

have

accumulated in this system. Use a mild cathartic to

bring

about this. Remove these lesions along the spine with

an

17. (Q) What treatment would you suggest?

(A) Cleanse the system here. Use Squib [syrup of

Squill?],

a light action on the stomach or the lower end of the

stomach

with the liver and kidney

and you cannot put a new one in it. To rebuild first

cleanse with water. Wash it clean, thoroughly fill the

system with water - pure water - and we take a light

diet

(not flesh, but cereals and vegetables), until the

system

is thoroughly cleaned and take iron and calcium. A

reaction

from the blood to the lungs and get a fuller capillary

circulation. Digitalis and strychnine begin to supply

the

4. We would apply - as a local antiseptic for the condition

existent - those of Yellow Oxide Ointment, and this

may be

alternated with Gray's Ointment, which will relieve the

local condition - but to cleanse the condition from the

system, do not take oils or fats, nor candies, or

sugars in

ANY form until the system is cleared of these

conditions.

Using those properties as given - the sulphur, the

cream of

tartar, and salts - see? These in small quantities,

taken

properly as given, will cleanse the condition, see?

how, then, IN meditation (when one has so purified self) that

HEALING OF EVERY kind and nature may be disseminated

on the

wings of thought, that are so much a thing - and so

little

considered by the tongue that speaks without taking

into

consideration what may be the end thereof!

3. Cleanse the body with pure water. Sit or lie in an easy

position, without binding garments about the body.

Breathe

in through the right nostril three times, and exhale

through

the mouth. Breathe in three times through the left

nostril

and exhale through the right. Then, either with the

aid of a

low music, or the incantation of that which carries

self

deeper - deeper - to the seeing, feeling, experiencing

of

that image in the creative forces of love, enter into

the

Holy of Holies. As self feels or experiences the

raising of

this, see it disseminated through the INNER eye (not

the

carnal eye) to that which will bring the greater

understanding in meeting every condition in the

experience of

the body. Then listen to the music that is made as

each

center of thine own body responds to that new creative

force

that little by little this entering in will enable

self to

renew all that is necessary - in Him.

24. First, CLEANSE the room; cleanse the body; cleanse the

surroundings, in thought, in act! Approach not the

inner

man, or the inner self, with a grudge or an unkind

thought

held against ANY man! or do so to thine own undoing

sooner or

later!

3. We would begin to use the high colonic irrigations to cleanse

the colon. In the first three weeks we would have

about two

each week. Don't undertake to cleanse the caecum in

the

first two or three or four irrigations; only first the

descending and first portion of the transverse, in the

first,

6. Through the alimentary canal we find a great deal of

disturbance produced by gas in the lower portion of the

jejunum and through the colon area. This would be

better

aided by a series of high colonic irrigations being

taken.

But these would have to be scientifically given, so as

to

cleanse the colon without producing a great deal of

inflammation. Hence there should be used an antiseptic

solution for the colonics. Put a heaping teaspoonful

of

table salt and a level teaspoonful of baking soda to

each

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half gallon of water used for the first cleansing.

Use a

tablespoonful of Glyco-Thymoline to the half gallon of

rinse

water used last. Have the water body temperature, not

colder

not hotter, and it will not be a drain on the body.

The

first two colonics we would have within a period of

ten days,

then they may be made about ten days apart. We would

have

sufficient of these to cleanse the colon, so that

there is no

mucous in same. This should be done before beginning

the

properties we will suggest as the tonic. Hence there

should

be some six to eight colonics taken before we would

begin the

tonic. This will ease the nerve forces throughout the

body,

making for better equilibrium in the whole circulation

through the alimentary canal and throughout the lungs,

the

liver and the kidneys. These organs will be much

better

balanced in their circulation, if the poisons are

cleansed in

this manner before beginning the use of the body-

building

forces.

13. (Q) What can I take to make eggs and milk digest?

(A) Rather cleanse the system, and we will find that

this

will add considerably to the ability of the system to

produce

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the correct balance of the gastric flows for

digestion. The

adding of the general strength will aid.

14. (Q) What can be done to conquer the many allergies to

certain fruits and vegetables that I am afflicted

with? Is

the cause psychological?

(A) Cleanse the system! These arise from toxic

conditions

through the alimentary canal.

5. (Q) What will stop the tendency to itching piles?

(A) Clean the system! And then, whenever there is the

necessity, use Pazo Ointment

for an accumulation of PHLEGM-like portions along the

intestinal system. These, as we find, are not of the

same

CHARACTER or nature as HAVE existed in system.

2. Only would we CLEANSE same, or cleanse the whole

system, so

that these do not become attached to, or cause - in

the folds

of the system itself - irritations that become

lacerations,

ulcerations, or such natures. We will find that we

should

take TIME to get the system in a position where the

activities of the body, or of the vital forces in same,

have more resistance to such conditions.

3. We would take, then, AS that as will act as an

eliminant,

those combinations of the active forces in same, that

keep

for the non-acidity in system - as will produce, or is

produced from phlegm-like combinations or congestion

centers.

Those of the Milk of Magnesia, Milk of Bismuth, and

those

that come from the combination of the forces as in

teas of

saffron and of camomile - half and half - made first

in that

of one to ten and allowed to steep for twenty-five to

thirty

minutes. There may be added every third day those

also of

the massage, or of the nature that will produce an

ACTIVITY

with same. These altered from day today, will cleanse

the

system. Those that will act as the best antiseptic,

as we

find, may be found in those forces of a nature whose

reactive

forces in same are of a very mild form of an

antiseptic that

is ALKALIN. These may be found either in those of

Glyco, of

Lavorice, or any of these natures. Ready for

questions.

4. (Q) What is the cause and treatment of pain in

stomach area?

(A) That's just what we have been talking about all

the

mesenteric system, allowing the poisons to come back

into the

system in such condition as to produce stress and

strain on

the nerve centers from their radiation of locomotion.

THIS

should not be. These may be acted upon in TWO

different

directions. PREFERABLY, we would give as this: First

CLEANSE the system, using those properties as will be

in any

of the salts, or that that excites the mucus membranes

of the

intestines itself. This will not overtax the lower

portion

of the system to the extent as to cause greater

distress

with the hemorrhoids, or those conditions as exist in

the

lower portion of the body, but as these are begun we

would

then use that of the high enemas to cleanse the colon,

and

WITH these thrown out we will find the poisons being

eliminated.

2. Then, begin with the manipulations in such a manner as

to

cause better distribution of the circulation, both

from the

heart's action in the upper cardiac, or a greater flow

of

blood to head, and a greater flow of blood to the LOWER

portion of the body. These will be accomplished by the

RELEASING or relieving of the pressure in those

centers in

the upper cervicals, in the brachial center, and in

the lower

lumbar center. We will then have a better anterior

circulation. Still keep the stimuli through the

application

of the equalizer in the system, but cleanse the system

thoroughly first - alimentary canal - also those of the

COLON, and we will find these will, followed then

nearer in

line with that as has been given the body, improve.

Ready

fo

There are still indications of the disorders as arose, and

have arisen in the digestive system, especially in the

region

of the gall ducts, and that as has produced, does

produce,

gases in the intestinal system, pressures in the lower

portion of the stomach, and the dizziness and

uneasiness

felt.

2. We would continue, at least once every day - for the

time

being - those castor oil packs, UNTIL there is the FULL

reaction from the HEPATIC circulation. We would, to

aid this

in the present, take small quantities of olive oil

internally. Take all the body will assimilate, but in

VERY

BROKEN doses half to a teaspoonful at a time. This

may be

taken all day, see? that is every two hours, or every

hour

and a half, see? but take the PURE not that that is

synthetically made.

3. We would also be mindful of the diet. Not too much

taken,

and especially as the oil is to be taken to cleanse the

system. A great deal will be assimilated, see, by the

body,

and as it is assimilated it is as food for the whole

intestinal system.

4. Keep up those of the Glyco, that will reduce the

amount of

gas and acts as an antiseptic.

11. For the excess use of salines to flush or cleanse the colon

has reduced in blood more of that which causes that

plasm.

Thus the inabilities of those centers, those patches

[Peyer's

Patches, see 294-212, Par. B11] through which there

are the

areas of the lymph circulation, are such as to cause

ofttimes a state of disintegration. In these patches,

then,

16. Cleanse the eyes each morning with a weak antiseptic

solution, that will cleanse the eyelids of secretions that will

form from the continued stimulation to the circulation through the

applications.

14. (Q) What causes night mares and lack of sleep?

(A) Toxic forces or poisons in the system.

19. (Q) What causes swelling of knee?

(A) Toxic poisons in the body, the lack of proper

eliminations through alimentary canal.

When asked (Q) what causes the pain in my hip? (A) The unbalanced

conditions through pressures from poisons in the system. As

indicated, as the system is cleansed and the pressures are removed,

with corrections in the cerebrospinal system, the whole of the way

through, these disturbing conditions will disappear.

When asked (Q) What is causing cramps in legs? Cayce said (A) the

same condition!

When asked (Q) What is causing my ears to not function correctly?

Cayce said (A) The pressures upon the nervous system. And, as

indicated, these should be materially relieved as the pressures and

poisons are eliminated.

When asked. (Q) What causes his fevers or slight temperature so

often during each day, followed by sweats at night? Cayce said (A) A

natural effect of uric poisoning in the system, not being eliminated

properly.

If there is the correction of the conditions in the ileum plexus, in

the 4th lumbar axis, in the secondary cardiac plexus centre, we will

find the ability of the organs of elimination better co-ordinated, -

namely: alimentary canal, kidneys, through the urinary canals and

the bladder conditions, the activity of the perspiratory system and

respiratory system. Thus there would be less of the inclination for

temperature through the hepatics and the liver and spleen activity.

When asked (Q) What causes his deafness or inattention to

questions, which he may hear and attempt to answer later if not

interrupted in meantime? Cayce said (A) This is a slowing of the

coordination between the auditory forces and the impulse of activity

from the sympathetic system. And these are effects of toxic forces

upon impulses along the cerebrospinal system, from which all organs

and activities of the body receive impulse for activity. For the

nervous system is as the communicative system of the whole body.

Slow these in any manner and we have the slow response, as is

indicated by these conditions in this body.

candidiasis , " rose marie belforti " <todo2@u...>

wrote:

> Hi all, I am new here!!!

> Happy to be here.

> I have been with the LS, Lichen Sclerosis group forever, but

I think after all, may problems are more candida than LS. Actually I

think they are related.

> I have had vaginal itch to the point of wounding for 25-30

years!!!! Can you believe it. It has affected my whole life!!

> I have spent most of these years trying to figure it out with all

sorts of doctors, all types of medicine.

> AND NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO HELP ME, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE

MODERATOR AT THE " LS " SITE (her name is Dee, bless her heart) and

KEFIR!!!!!

> Dee helped me by turning me on to Estrace and Testosterone topical

creams, AND most of all, the use of BORIC ACID as a suppository. You

all probably use that.

> That has been the life saver!! I tried all sorts of other methods

to get rid of yeast but nothing has worked. Even the Boric Acid does

not keep it away forever!!!

> My yeast infection comes back, again, and again, and again, and

again!!!!

> And I am not one who has abused myself with antibiotics or drugs.

My only abuse is that I have had four children, and I got my

Master's degree when my husband was dying, and the four children

were around my feet!!

> Well, I am older now, and I am happily remarried, but I still have

the yeast infection.

> I just two months ago started making my own kefir with my own

cow's milk (that I milk by hand) and I am feeling the best I have

ever felt!!! I think the yeast is really under control.

> Now the reason I just joined this group is because I am looking

for new ways to continue dealing with the yeast, because I sure

would like to see it totally gone!!!

> I pay close attention to the Weston A. Price Foundation diet

thoughts, and I have not had sugar or gluten products for over a

year. I basically can only eat what I make myself. Going out to eat

is a disaster, and I try to avoid it as much as possible.

> But I am glad to meet you all, and I hope I can pick up some new

tips here to get this nasty beasty completely out of my gut! I am at

this point wondering if I have leaky gut syndrome.

> Glad to be here!

> Rose Marie

>

Posted June 4, 2005 · June 4, 2005

Hi Christy,

The best diet for everyone, but especially diabetes is the low glycemic

diet. It is not really a diet, but a way of eating. You can eat lots of

food in the day, just not certain foods. My husband started on this diet

and he lost 20 lbs in the first month, and has since lost 10 more. He

does not exercies, except his normal working as a tractor driver. You

will have to give up foods like white rice, potatoes, most bread except

some sprouted grain bread would be o.k. Even some fruites like

watermelon are really high glycemeic and on the nono list. There is also

something called the " Metabolic type test " This determins whether you

should be eating more protein, more carbs or mixed. If you want to take

a test and also see a partial list of foods you can go to my website at

www.mannapages.com/morningsun click on products, then scroll down to

Glycolean products, once on that page scroll down and you will find the

dietary needs survey. You can take this and then read the pages that

correspond to your type. The partial list of low, moderate, and high

glycemic foods is also there. This is the best way to eat because most

diets are too hard to follow and leave you feeling hungry. With this

style of eating you just stay away from the bad foods and eat all you

want of the good.

cittycat123 wrote:

> Hello everyone!

>

> I have recently been diagnosed with type ll diabetes.

> My goal is to control this with diet and natural remedies if possible.

> My mother has high and my grandmother has low (blood sugar, I mean),

> and I would like to avoid the handful of pills that they take

> everyday.

> I do not mean to make light of this because actually this scares the

> hell out of me, (my mother had 2 strokes & a heart attack because

> of " out-of control blood sugar " by the age of 50. Not to mention

> other

> factors as well.

> What I'm looking for is a diet, not a fad diet but one that will help

> me lose weight and bring this problem under control. I have always

> been " thick " as my boyfriend calls it, bless his heart, but now it's

> not a matter of vanity but a matter of health.

> I am open for any friends or diet buddies that can support me and let

> me support them too.

> My major problem right now is yeast infections and can use any

> advice that I can get with them. I have tried the OTC creams but they

> always come back right before my period (bastards!!) so if u have any

> advice about that plz forward. And yes, I have tried the yogurt thing

> but that only seems to hold it off for awhile.

>

> Bless you guys,

> Christy

>

Posted June 5, 2005 · June 5, 2005

> > Christy wrote:

> > Hello everyone!

> >

> > I have recently been diagnosed with type ll diabetes.

> > My goal is to control this with diet and natural remedies if

> > possible.

This diabetic discussion group

D-A-S-H-/ has mucho information on just

that subject.

Duncan

Posted June 24, 2005 · June 24, 2005

At 07:47 AM 6/24/2005, you wrote:

>Hi to everyone...

>

>I may have seen some of you through braintalk.org but I will go ahead

>and share a little..

>

>Lower back pain for 11 years

>Neck pain for 3 years

>

>3 years ago had an MRI on lumbar- bunch of the usual bulging,

>herniations, degeneration, spurs- decided against any type of

>surgical intervention.

>

>A few months ago had a cervical MRI and found much the same but also

>a T1 hemangioma(no problem) and a right posterior herniation at the

>T2-3.

>

>Will be seeing yet another specialist who I have been told has worked

>with Thoracic problems before on July 5th- I suspect will end up with

>an MRI of the full thoracic spine before too much longer..

>

>For the last 6 months I have had chronic whole body misery... have

>been lucky to make it through the day... keeping my fingers crossed

>the last couple of days I have woke up with the usual pain in the

>target areas(arm, neck, shoulders, some pins and needles) but the

>numbness and fatigue seemed to be gone- I am hoping the herniation is

>healing...

>

>So anyone here have a T2-3 right posterior herniation? Seems like

>there aren't many of us...

>

>Looking forward to sharing with everyone

>Diane

Diane, I'm wondering why you've decided against surgical intervention for

some of your spine issues? If you can get relief, then why not?

Believe me, I'm not an advocate of quick-fix surgery and would never

advocate it for someone else, especially someone I don't even know, but

I've discovered (in my own case) that it's far better to try to fix

something than to live in pain for years. Spine surgery is truly not at

all what it was just a few years ago. I'm delighted with the outcome of my

own surgery in October, but it took me a long time to decide to go through

with it. Heck, I almost left the hospital the morning of. I know how

scary the thought of back surgery can be.

Just wondering ...

Posted June 24, 2005 · June 24, 2005

,

I think fear plays a big part of things-but also the surgeon(s)have all agreed

that I should hope that it fuses for my lower back at least- up until my

neck/thoracic problems I only needed motrin to keep things under control and it

only slowed me down a few days a month..

But now with the Thoracic problem if they offer surgery I might consider it :-)

It has taken me to my knees.. even driving is miserable. I met with the new

surgeon on July 5th- hopefully he can offer me so options beyond pain- I am

going to ask about a painblock...

Diane

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