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Cheryl-

I love the way you think! On my weight I say I am not over weight, I

am just under tall!

Love,

Carole K

> I just want everyone to know i do not have gray hair mixed with my

brown

> hair..... I have color challenged hair....LOL

>

> Cheryl & Randy

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Randi,

That is the same plan BOTH of my docs have for me. One is a very

good hepatologist and the other an outstanding GI with experience in

treating AIH. They both plan to keep me on Imuran forever, so I

don't think that is an outrageous approach. I am only on 75mg of it

though, and that seems to be working for me so far...everyone is

different. I use Nioxin for hair loss, helps some, but mine isn't as

bad as yours sounds. I do see lots more in the sink than I used to,

but nobody else can really tell. I keep my hair ultra short too,

which makes it less noticable. I had the ultra short hair before

though...love it!

> I have been on both drugs for about 4 months now. He said he will

try to wean me off the Prednisone but will keep me on the Imuran

forever. I am not too happy with him, for several reasons, and

currently have any appointment with the Cleveland Clinic to get

another opinion.

>

> Randi

> [ ] Hair Loss

>

> > I have seen that many others have experienced hair loss

like I am

> > currently doing......Has anyone ever tried Rogaine? I

had been able

> > to cover it up but it is now getting bad enough that it

is very

> > noticeable and a wig seems to be the only other option

at this point.

> >

> > Anyone have any help or insight on this?

> >

> > Randi

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I never thought about the skin absorbing the Nioxin/Rogaine. I wonder if dyeing my hair is bad? Oh well, even if it is I will continue since grey is just NOT my color and if I have to put up with little or no hair I at least want it a pretty color! Ha ha!

Randi

[ ] Re: Hair Loss

Randi-When my hair fell out so badly in the beginning, I asked my pharmacist about Rogaine. She pulled out her big book, read for about 45 minutes and called me back to the pharmacy and said she can't recommend it. I should talk to the doc, but he will probably say the same she said. A couple of weeks later I was buying Nioxin for the hubby, and she came running over and said it was an absolute no no with my liver disease. Relaxed when I told her it was not for me and promised not to use it. We have to remember we also absorb things through our skin. And all those toxins, it is our livers job to remove them. So get it cleared by your doc before using them. I didn't bother, just took what my Pharmacist said as good. I figure she knows her stuff better on the chemicals in this stuff than he. As far as lower doses of immuran, I was able for a while to stay on a maintanance dose of 25 mgs. Maybe you will get lucky and get the same. It was great. No prednisone, only 25 of immuran, absolutely NO side effects. I did myself out of it though. When I was on it for a while, I figured why not go with out, it can't be that much difference. Wrong, very wrong. Went into a bad flare, and haven't been able to get on a set manitenance dose since. The moral of that story is don't try to handle you med dosage on your own. :^ I don't any more, but I also can't get on an even keel either. Take care, and remember, dosage and type of meds can cause hair loss. Like if you have a procedure, like the biopsy, the influx of meds can cause a temporary increase in hair loss. If you are being changed around on dosages of your meds, that may trigger it do be more too. Stress is a huge cause of hair loss too. Give it time, it should turn itself around. If not, talk to the doc, as hair loss can also be a symptom of thyroid disease. Good Luck.Love,Carole K> I have seen that many others have experienced hair loss like I am currently doing......Has anyone ever tried Rogaine? I had been able to cover it up but it is now getting bad enough that it is very noticeable and a wig seems to be the only other option at this point. > > Anyone have any help or insight on this?> > Randi

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Hmmm- I started going to the salon about a year ago because my grays were 'taking over' and the over the counter stuff was just not strong enough! So far I seem to have had no problems with it. I don't know what I would do otherwise because the other stuff just did not cover it well enough! Oh well, I just won't think about it! What the heck was your reaction caused by - an allergic reaction to the stuff? That must have been scary!

[ ] Re: Hair Loss

Randi-You know I haven't asked. I don't want to, then I might have to quit doing it too! Since this all started I have been being taken over with greys! I did have one brand though that I used, then twice in a row, [after I was Dx] for some reason half way through the process my tounge and mouth started going numb. I was using professional dies from a beauty supply. Now I buy the weaker stuff in the grocery store. I go for mild stuff now, doesn't last as long, but has to be safer.Carole K> I never thought about the skin absorbing the Nioxin/Rogaine. I wonder if dyeing my hair is bad? Oh well, even if it is I will continue since grey is just NOT my color and if I have to put up with little or no hair I at least want it a pretty color! Ha ha!> > Randi> >

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I WILL HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN PEOPLE ASK

ME WHETHER I HAVE GRAY HAIR OR NOT!!

Re: [ ] Re: Hair Loss

I just want everyone to know i do not have gray hair mixed with my brown hair..... I have color challenged hair....LOLCheryl & Randy

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That is so strange. I have a friend that has Lupus and during the course of her medication her natural curly blond hair turned STRAIGHT and BROWN. That was weird too. For the first time in her life she had to get it colored and get perms!

And you are right - what kid of hair cut is flattering to this round full face of mine?! I like the length to hide behind at least! Ha, ha!

Randi

[ ] Re: Hair Loss

Randi-I figured it was an allergic reaction. Didn't scare me though, I guess it should have. It just seemed in the grand scheme of things, like it wasn't a big deal. My husband was a little creeped out though. He was the one who insisted I go for milder stuff or quit dyeing it. What? Are you crazy? No way ! Bad enough the stuff is falling out. Can't come up with a hair cut that is falttering to the moon face. At least I can control the color! And I don't know about yours, but after it is dyed, it at least looks healthy for a bit. Rather than looking like straw. You know the odd part too is not only did it stat going gray, but it also became really dark dark brown. My hair has always been a dirty blonde to lite brown. It started coming in gray and with really dark roots - like I had been dyeing it. Weird, huh? I let it grow in dark, and was constantly asked why I started dyeing it. My grandma kept saying I should let it grow back in my natural color. Grandma! This is my natural color now! So now I dye it 'to its natural color', and everyone says how they like it so much better than that dark color I dyed it before. I just say "Gee I don't know what I was thinking then". Too funny. I don't explain any more - but I wonder what the heck they think I am doing when the dark roots start to really show.Love,Carole K> > I never thought about the skin absorbing the Nioxin/Rogaine. I > wonder if dyeing my hair is bad? Oh well, even if it is I will > continue since grey is just NOT my color and if I have to put up with > little or no hair I at least want it a pretty color! Ha ha!> > > > Randi> > > > > > > >

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I'm having hair loss too, but I was just diagnosed with hypothyroid two

weeks ago. Even my eyelashes are falling out.

AIH Feb 2002

[ ] Hair Loss

I have AIH,Lupus, Fibromyalgia,Diabetes, Angina, as well as other

problems. I have been experiencing hair loss for a long time now. I

am on Methyprednisolone, Actigall, Cartia, Actos, Prozac, Topomax. I

don't know if any of these meds is causing the hair loss or just the

diseases that I have. Anyone else not on Imuran having hair loss? I

think soon I'll be wearing wigs. That's the least of my problems.

Rose

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Carole,

You can't win. My husband's grandmother had an

interesting thing happen to her hair, her hair had

gone white and than they put her on iron supplements

and her hair grew in dark, this was when she was in

her late seventies.

Ruth

--- " toots_k <toots_k@...> " <toots_k@...>

wrote:

> Randi-

>

> I figured it was an allergic reaction. Didn't scare

> me though, I

> guess it should have. It just seemed in the grand

> scheme of things,

> like it wasn't a big deal. My husband was a little

> creeped out

> though. He was the one who insisted I go for milder

> stuff or quit

> dyeing it. What? Are you crazy? No way ! Bad

> enough the stuff

> is falling out. Can't come up with a hair cut that

> is falttering to

> the moon face. At least I can control the color!

> And I don't know

> about yours, but after it is dyed, it at least looks

> healthy for a

> bit. Rather than looking like straw. You know the

> odd part too is

> not only did it stat going gray, but it also became

> really dark dark

> brown. My hair has always been a dirty blonde to

> lite brown. It

> started coming in gray and with really dark roots -

> like I had been

> dyeing it. Weird, huh? I let it grow in dark, and

> was constantly

> asked why I started dyeing it. My grandma kept

> saying I should let

> it grow back in my natural color. Grandma! This is

> my natural color

> now! So now I dye it 'to its natural color', and

> everyone says how

> they like it so much better than that dark color I

> dyed it before. I

> just say " Gee I don't know what I was thinking

> then " . Too funny. I

> don't explain any more - but I wonder what the heck

> they think I am

> doing when the dark roots start to really show.

>

> Love,

> Carole K

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > I never thought about the skin absorbing the

> Nioxin/Rogaine. I

> > wonder if dyeing my hair is bad? Oh well, even

> if it is I will

> > continue since grey is just NOT my color and if

> I have to put up

> with

> > little or no hair I at least want it a pretty

> color! Ha ha!

> > >

> > > Randi

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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,

My hair is also falling out and it is funny you

mentioned your eyelashes, mine are falling out more

from my right eye not the left and it looks funny

because the left side is so much longer and thicker, I

really notice it when I am putting my mascara on.

Ruth

--- lisa m skowron <lsmaxfax@...> wrote:

> I'm having hair loss too, but I was just diagnosed

> with hypothyroid two

> weeks ago. Even my eyelashes are falling out.

>

>

> AIH Feb 2002

>

> [ ] Hair Loss

>

> I have AIH,Lupus, Fibromyalgia,Diabetes, Angina, as

> well as other

> problems. I have been experiencing hair loss for a

> long time now. I

> am on Methyprednisolone, Actigall, Cartia, Actos,

> Prozac, Topomax. I

> don't know if any of these meds is causing the hair

> loss or just the

> diseases that I have. Anyone else not on Imuran

> having hair loss? I

> think soon I'll be wearing wigs. That's the least

> of my problems.

>

> Rose

>

>

>

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Carole K,

Thanks so much for the info on the Nioxin. I am very new to this and it never occurred to me that a shampoo could be harmful to your liver. It does make sense and I should have thought about it since getting it under the dressing on my PICC line burnt my skin to pieces! I'm glad I'm no longer using the Nioxin. Sorry I recommended it without researching!

W

[ ] Re: Hair Loss

Randi-When my hair fell out so badly in the beginning, I asked my pharmacist about Rogaine. She pulled out her big book, read for about 45 minutes and called me back to the pharmacy and said she can't recommend it. I should talk to the doc, but he will probably say the same she said. A couple of weeks later I was buying Nioxin for the hubby, and she came running over and said it was an absolute no no with my liver disease. Relaxed when I told her it was not for me and promised not to use it. We have to remember we also absorb things through our skin. And all those toxins, it is our livers job to remove them. So get it cleared by your doc before using them. I didn't bother, just took what my Pharmacist said as good. I figure she knows her stuff better on the chemicals in this stuff than he. As far as lower doses of immuran, I was able for a while to stay on a maintanance dose of 25 mgs. Maybe you will get lucky and get the same. It was great. No prednisone, only 25 of immuran, absolutely NO side effects. I did myself out of it though. When I was on it for a while, I figured why not go with out, it can't be that much difference. Wrong, very wrong. Went into a bad flare, and haven't been able to get on a set manitenance dose since. The moral of that story is don't try to handle you med dosage on your own. :^ I don't any more, but I also can't get on an even keel either. Take care, and remember, dosage and type of meds can cause hair loss. Like if you have a procedure, like the biopsy, the influx of meds can cause a temporary increase in hair loss. If you are being changed around on dosages of your meds, that may trigger it do be more too. Stress is a huge cause of hair loss too. Give it time, it should turn itself around. If not, talk to the doc, as hair loss can also be a symptom of thyroid disease. Good Luck.Love,Carole K> I have seen that many others have experienced hair loss like I am currently doing......Has anyone ever tried Rogaine? I had been able to cover it up but it is now getting bad enough that it is very noticeable and a wig seems to be the only other option at this point. > > Anyone have any help or insight on this?> > Randi

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Rose,

I have lupus and AIH. I've known I had lupus since 96, but the AIH was just discovered. I am a member of a wonderful online support group for people with lupus. It is a lupies . I have had only minimal hair loss since discovering I have lupus. Well, except for during the period after my gastric bypass when I was having a rapid weight loss. However, hair loss very often goes along with lupus. It can be a result of the medications or the disease itself. The only med I am on for lupus is plaquenil so I'm not familiar with your meds. You might want to check out the lupies group. They have a wealth of knowledge on lupus.

W

[ ] Hair Loss

I have AIH,Lupus, Fibromyalgia,Diabetes, Angina, as well as other problems. I have been experiencing hair loss for a long time now. I am on Methyprednisolone, Actigall, Cartia, Actos, Prozac, Topomax. I don't know if any of these meds is causing the hair loss or just the diseases that I have. Anyone else not on Imuran having hair loss? I think soon I'll be wearing wigs. That's the least of my problems. Rose

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I'm wondering this too. My hair is a lot thinner now, and also my hairline

has receded, it's not too bad but it could be a before/after picture if you

look at pictures of me a couple years ago, and now.

-Amie

hair loss

does the lost hair ever grow back?

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my hair is always falling out also..has anyone had the problem no matter what

you do where you go hair is continuing to fall out?

Amie <amie1@...> wrote:I'm wondering this too. My hair is a lot thinner

now, and also my hairline

has receded, it's not too bad but it could be a before/after picture if you

look at pictures of me a couple years ago, and now.

-Amie

hair loss

does the lost hair ever grow back?

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I don't know that mine has fallen out like in clumps, just gradually thinned

out. I used to have the thickest hair... now it is so thin.

-Amie

hair loss

does the lost hair ever grow back?

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its gotten so i HATE taking a shower cuz when i wash my hair it comes out in

clumps nad i was born with VERY thin hair nad now you can see theru my

hair.. i was in tears the other day about it.. bad enough to be sick in bed

PLUS fat PLUS bald PLUS starving grrr

hair loss

>

>

> does the lost hair ever grow back?

>

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> does the lost hair ever grow back?

~~~

That's what I was wondering also.

My dermatologist said yes, if the other problems causing the

hairloss are treated. But it's the whole getting the right treatment

part that seems to be an issue.

Blessings, Miana

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YES but you need to get excellent treatment----right drug, right dose,

adrenal support. holistic docs do a better job.

Gracia

>

> does the lost hair ever grow back?

>

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>

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> YES but you need to get excellent treatment----right drug, right

dose,

> adrenal support. holistic docs do a better job.

> Gracia

~~~~~~~~~~~

I guess that leaves me out until I move elsewhere. We have one endo

in my area that I can get to (I'm disabled and don't drive due to it

& religious reasons) ... and I can only figure after this long with

him it's not going to get any better. He's not willing to try

anything different.

Blessings,

Miana

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Randi, have you had your thyroid checked?

[ ] hair loss

I put hair loss in the message search but didn't come up with anything. My

hair is thinning out really bad and I was wondering if anyone knows of

anything that can help with it.

Randi

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Ya I did, I get a yearly done every year and they check it then. Everything

normal.

Randi

> Randi, have you had your thyroid checked?

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Hmmmm, yeast does some insidious things so hopefully Bee will have some input

for you.

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Ya I did, I get a yearly done every year and they check it then. Everything

normal.

Randi

> Randi, have you had your thyroid checked?

>

>

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Dear Randi,

Hair loss is very very common when you have candida - it's on the list

of symptoms caused by candida in my article. It will improve as you

cure your candida, if baldness does not run in your family. I've heard

that baldness may be related to a lack of certain trace minerals. You

can ensure you are getting minerals for both possible baldness or

candida by having plenty of a good grey ocean sea salt, like Celtic. I

recommend 1/4 tsp. plus the juice of 1/2 lemon in 6 ounces of water 6

times a day; three with meals to aid digestion.

Bee

> I put hair loss in the message search but didn't come up with

anything. My

> hair is thinning out really bad and I was wondering if anyone knows of

> anything that can help with it.

> Randi

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I have had hair loss, but I have SO much hair that it seems less a problem for

me than it has been for others. I have lost fully HALF my hair volume, but it

hasn't been too bad because I still have a full head of hair. That said, I no

longer see a ton of hair on the screen over the tub drain since Armour. All the

years on synthetics, at varying doses never made a difference in hair loss.

Armour has been the ticket for me. I detest synthetics and will NEVER go back to

them. That saying about wild horses? Very true here.

C.

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I read this

Male Hair Loss

Candida can cause hair shedding in male or female patients. The exact

mechanism is unclear because there are so many possible pathways. The three

most likely pathways are thyroid dysfunction, allergies and enzyme

suppression.

I would say you are in an all out battle and the " cleanse " you did was not

followed up by a live foods diet or you are consuming chlorinated water, or

have been re-exposed to a ton of antibiotics either in meat, doctor, or what

have you..

There are antibiotics in our tap water. People are overfed them, they get

peed out into our water treatment plants, and guess who gets them right back

again?

Also you can eat meats and dairy fine for a while, but with all the rain

they have been having in Texas, whammo, livestock gets sick and they mass

treat again...

I know it sounds freaky but I would go get a colonic quickly..

A good 45 minute one where they fill you to the brink and stretch out the

opening of your small intestine where most Candida lives.

With 103 degree water, then down to 80 degrees to clench the colon, then up

again.

I mean if you are losing hair over this something has happened.

Your solider's are losing the battle and you need to get that mass of

candida flushed out with a quickness.

Get off cooked food for a while.

Its from a pay site so I am not sure you will be able to get in there.

http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C7890.html

Let me know how it goes...

 

Nicoel Suzanne

Author in Progress...

-- Hair loss

Hi

I posted an intro with this concern but never received any feedback. I did a

cleanse kit for

3 weeks and started losing large amounts of hair. Before this, I had never

suffered the

hair loss that is common to some people dealing with candida.

I am no longer doing the kit and the hair loss is still present but not as

much as it was in

the beginning. I started a multi-vitamin, some people have said it sounds

more like a

vitamin deficiency.

If anyone has any advice/thoughts on the sudden hair loss, please share it.

Thank you~

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Thanks for the input. During the cleanse (I used the Vita Cleanse kit by Gaia

herbs) I drank

only a combination of purified or distilled water, ate only salads, vegetables,

brown rice,

raw almonds, oats, only ate fish a very few times (less than 4 I think) no

coffee, fruit, dairy,

meat, sweets or other *forbidden* foods. I don't use antibiotics (unless

absolutely and

completely necessary, so maybe 2-3 times in the last 4-5 yrs. or more)

My normal diet is about 95% fresh/organic/hormone free/non-dairy, etc. & I have

pretty

much been adhering to the cleanse diet since stopping the kit. The hair loss

slowed down

slightly but it hasn't stopped altogether. I just added a multi-vitamin to see

if that will

help. I tend to think that maybe my system was overwhelmed with the release of

toxins

and processing, it was/is shocking to loose so much hair so fast! I intend that

as my body

regains its health the hair will come back (and come back quickly and healthier

than ever!)

>

> I read this

>

> Male Hair Loss

> Candida can cause hair shedding in male or female patients. The exact

> mechanism is unclear because there are so many possible pathways. The three

> most likely pathways are thyroid dysfunction, allergies and enzyme

> suppression.

>

> I would say you are in an all out battle and the " cleanse " you did was not

> followed up by a live foods diet or you are consuming chlorinated water, or

> have been re-exposed to a ton of antibiotics either in meat, doctor, or what

> have you..

> There are antibiotics in our tap water. People are overfed them, they get

> peed out into our water treatment plants, and guess who gets them right back

> again?

> Also you can eat meats and dairy fine for a while, but with all the rain

> they have been having in Texas, whammo, livestock gets sick and they mass

> treat again...

> I know it sounds freaky but I would go get a colonic quickly..

> A good 45 minute one where they fill you to the brink and stretch out the

> opening of your small intestine where most Candida lives.

> With 103 degree water, then down to 80 degrees to clench the colon, then up

> again.

> I mean if you are losing hair over this something has happened.

> Your solider's are losing the battle and you need to get that mass of

> candida flushed out with a quickness.

> Get off cooked food for a while.

>

> Its from a pay site so I am not sure you will be able to get in there.

> http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C7890.html

>

> Let me know how it goes...

>

>

>  

> Nicoel Suzanne

> Author in Progress...

>

>

> -- Hair loss

>

> Hi

> I posted an intro with this concern but never received any feedback. I did a

> cleanse kit for

> 3 weeks and started losing large amounts of hair. Before this, I had never

> suffered the

> hair loss that is common to some people dealing with candida.

>

> I am no longer doing the kit and the hair loss is still present but not as

> much as it was in

> the beginning. I started a multi-vitamin, some people have said it sounds

> more like a

> vitamin deficiency.

>

> If anyone has any advice/thoughts on the sudden hair loss, please share it.

> Thank you~

>

>

>

>

>

>

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