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If you aren't drinking enough water, then the cells tend to hold onto water.

This is also why you tend to hold onto water when you have had a lot of salt.

The cells think there is not enough fluid to balance things out, and they start

retaining.

I don't think Red Bull is especially good for people. It is " herbal, " but those

herbs are basically ones that are full of caffeine, and that is where the energy

comes from. It is cheaper to just buy a cup of coffee. Red Bull also has sugar

in it (unless it's the sugar free version) and excess sugar can make you retain

water because of the carbohydrate. Every carbohydrate molecule binds to water

molecules. You should really only take herbs if you know what they do and you

want the effect they will have.

carolyneswanson <carolyneswanson@...> wrote:

i've been through extensive test for heart problems as doctors were

concerned about my water gain, everything's fine.

i've been very stressed lately, moving,remodeling an old farm house

and selling my old house.

tina- you think i need to drink more water? i used to drink 10

glasses a day and now drink 2. i thought that was contributing to

my water gain, but now it's worse.

also, i've been drinking red bull energy drinks, do you think there's

something in there that could make my hold water??

my doctor has upped my meds to .150 synthyroid

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Every carbohydrate molecule binds to water molecules.

Well, that's pretty interesting.... Could you elaborate on that?? thanks :)

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I think you should not drown yourself in water, because you can wash out

nutrients that way. I was never thirsty until I got thyroid meds. Edema

is a symptom of un/poorly treated thyroid. Armour would work better for

this. http://www.armourthyroid.com

Gracia

> i've been through extensive test for heart problems as doctors were

> concerned about my water gain, everything's fine.

>

> i've been very stressed lately, moving,remodeling an old farm house

> and selling my old house.

>

> tina- you think i need to drink more water? i used to drink 10

> glasses a day and now drink 2. i thought that was contributing to

> my water gain, but now it's worse.

>

> also, i've been drinking red bull energy drinks, do you think there's

> something in there that could make my hold water??

>

> my doctor has upped my meds to .150 synthyroid

>

>

>

>

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Carbohydrates turn into glycogen in the muscles. Glycogen molecules always bind

to two water molecules.

K a r e n P <karlynn17@...> wrote:Every carbohydrate molecule binds to

water molecules.

Well, that's pretty interesting.... Could you elaborate on that?? thanks :)

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That totally makes sence because when you start the Atkins diet water

is the first thing you lose.

P

Every carbohydrate molecule

binds to water molecules.

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> Well, that's pretty interesting.... Could you elaborate on that??

thanks :)

>

>

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Hi! Do those Red Bull energy drinks contain caffeine? If so, caffeine will

dehydrate you. So if you already decreased the amount of water you've been

drinking, then switched to a caffeine-containing drink, your body will likely

need more water. Take care. Sheila

carolyneswanson <carolyneswanson@...> wrote:i've been through extensive

test for heart problems as doctors were

concerned about my water gain, everything's fine.

i've been very stressed lately, moving,remodeling an old farm house

and selling my old house.

tina- you think i need to drink more water? i used to drink 10

glasses a day and now drink 2. i thought that was contributing to

my water gain, but now it's worse.

also, i've been drinking red bull energy drinks, do you think there's

something in there that could make my hold water??

my doctor has upped my meds to .150 synthyroid

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Hi Lyn!

A few ways that have worked for me- (I can go up 7-8 lbs in a day during PMS)

1. No Soda, no alcohol

2. NO salt and nitrate foods

3. Eat a few grapefruits and drink some additional water.

I've found it helps to flush my system. Also- I have celiac disease, so my

diet is pretty strict anyway. Sometimes when I go out to eat, it never fails

that somehow I end up eating something with gluten (grains) and that really

can blow me up. I just eat protien, vege, grapefruit and drink lots of water

(sometimes I mix lemon juice with my water)- that seems to help. I've also

found that the less processed foods I eat the better.

Hope you feel better!

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Hi Lyn!

I hope it helps, fortunately, I don't have the leg problems that some of the

others have, but I just can't stand that bloated feeling. I've also heard

vinegar is a natural diruetic, but I've tried it and it's really nasty!!!

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Hi :

Celiac disease is an autoimmune disease where basically you are allergic to

gluten (flour, wheat, barley, oats, etc.). A whole bunch of my family members

have it- they mostly had diarrhea (chronic), some had really bad eczema type

skin problems. I have found out that people with celiac can also have other

autoimmune problems (thyroid, fibromyalga, lupus). The docs think my celiac

could have caused my thyroid problem. I was first diagnosed Hypo within 6

months

of having my son- 6 years ago. It took a long time to find the right doc and

meds- I now take armour. My dosage kept creeping up, probably because I

wasn't absorbing the Armour because of the celiac. I finally got tested a

couple

of months ago, I now have been gluten free for about 2 months. I feel much

better, but I'd kill for a good piece of toast, or a sandwich (gluten free bread

is pretty nasty). I had a TSH test about 6 weeks of a gluten free diet- they

finally had to lower my dose. I still need to loose about 50 lbs. Not being

able to eat grains makes the low carb diets really easy. It's coming off

slowly. The other night we went out for dinner and the next morning I was 6

lbs.

heavier. I think I must have unknowingly eaten something I wasn't supposed

to!

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What is celiac disease?

Re: water retention

Hi Lyn!

A few ways that have worked for me- (I can go up 7-8 lbs in a day during PMS)

1. No Soda, no alcohol

2. NO salt and nitrate foods

3. Eat a few grapefruits and drink some additional water.

I've found it helps to flush my system. Also- I have celiac disease, so my

diet is pretty strict anyway. Sometimes when I go out to eat, it never fails

that somehow I end up eating something with gluten (grains) and that really

can blow me up. I just eat protien, vege, grapefruit and drink lots of water

(sometimes I mix lemon juice with my water)- that seems to help. I've also

found that the less processed foods I eat the better.

Hope you feel better!

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Make sure it is something safe....wouldn't want to eliminate too much water.

water retention

Hi guys!

Does anyone know of a sure fire safe natural way to eliminate water

from the body? This problem is driving me mad.Hope everyone else is

doing ok.

Best wishes

Lyn

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you have adrenal problems that are undiagnosied--this is why you have

this problem---

-- In hypothyroidism , " Lyn " <silverback212000@y...>

wrote:

> Hi guys!

>

> Does anyone know of a sure fire safe natural way to eliminate water

> from the body? This problem is driving me mad.Hope everyone else is

> doing ok.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Lyn

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try digestive enzymes---- and this molo-cure will really help---

hubby takes digestive enzymes now with every meal and took molo-cure

to heal his digestive track as well----hopefully after treatment with

molo-cure he will only have to take digestive enzymes every day

though (they are a lot cheaper once you heal your digestive track)

http://www.molocure.com/

https://www.immunesupport.com/shop/product.cfm?Product__Code=PH26

> Hi :

>

> Celiac disease is an autoimmune disease where basically you are

allergic to

> gluten (flour, wheat, barley, oats, etc.). A whole bunch of my

family members

> have it- they mostly had diarrhea (chronic), some had really bad

eczema type

> skin problems. I have found out that people with celiac can also

have other

> autoimmune problems (thyroid, fibromyalga, lupus). The docs think

my celiac

> could have caused my thyroid problem. I was first diagnosed Hypo

within 6 months

> of having my son- 6 years ago. It took a long time to find the

right doc and

> meds- I now take armour. My dosage kept creeping up, probably

because I

> wasn't absorbing the Armour because of the celiac. I finally got

tested a couple

> of months ago, I now have been gluten free for about 2 months. I

feel much

> better, but I'd kill for a good piece of toast, or a sandwich

(gluten free bread

> is pretty nasty). I had a TSH test about 6 weeks of a gluten free

diet- they

> finally had to lower my dose. I still need to loose about 50 lbs.

Not being

> able to eat grains makes the low carb diets really easy. It's

coming off

> slowly. The other night we went out for dinner and the next

morning I was 6 lbs.

> heavier. I think I must have unknowingly eaten something I wasn't

supposed

> to!

>

>

>

>

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Armour thyroid.

> Hi guys!

>

> Does anyone know of a sure fire safe natural way to eliminate water

> from the body? This problem is driving me mad.Hope everyone else is

> doing ok.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Lyn

>

>

>

>

>

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Are there any other symptoms?

How soon do you notice less water retention/weight loss after you stop eating

the wheat?

Re: water retention

Hi :

Celiac disease is an autoimmune disease where basically you are allergic to

gluten (flour, wheat, barley, oats, etc.). A whole bunch of my family members

have it- they mostly had diarrhea (chronic), some had really bad eczema type

skin problems. I have found out that people with celiac can also have other

autoimmune problems (thyroid, fibromyalga, lupus). The docs think my celiac

could have caused my thyroid problem. I was first diagnosed Hypo within 6

months

of having my son- 6 years ago. It took a long time to find the right doc and

meds- I now take armour. My dosage kept creeping up, probably because I

wasn't absorbing the Armour because of the celiac. I finally got tested a

couple

of months ago, I now have been gluten free for about 2 months. I feel much

better, but I'd kill for a good piece of toast, or a sandwich (gluten free

bread

is pretty nasty). I had a TSH test about 6 weeks of a gluten free diet- they

finally had to lower my dose. I still need to loose about 50 lbs. Not being

able to eat grains makes the low carb diets really easy. It's coming off

slowly. The other night we went out for dinner and the next morning I was 6

lbs.

heavier. I think I must have unknowingly eaten something I wasn't supposed

to!

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My guess would be that it should adjust within a week.

Could be your sodium/potassium is not good, which could be your

adrenals/thyroid.

Have you tried taking potassium or liquid trace minerals?

Kathy

jones2_81 <jones2_81@...> wrote:

From everyone's generous advice I have seriously upped my water

consumption over the past few days, which hasn't been as easy as I

thought it would be. But for me I feel like I'm retaining so much

water in my tissues, despite constantly having to go to the

bathroom. I can notice it in my stomach, thighs, calves, and was

just wondering if this is normal at first, and how long it typically

takes for your body to adjust? I've read that bromelain found in

pineapple can help combat water retention which is why it's

beneficial, but is it necessary, or should I continue and my body

will respond soon enough.

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In a message dated 6/1/2004 11:39:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jones2_81@... writes:

I can notice it in my stomach, thighs, calves, and was

just wondering if this is normal at first, and how long it typically

takes for your body to adjust?

Celery and pineapple are good natural diuretics. Only you know your state of

health so you have to be the best judge. I have cardiomyopathy so water

retention is a concern to me. I increased my water intake over about 4 weeks

and

was fine. Make sure you're getting out and walking etc. You may be

increasing the amount of water too rapidly. By the way, many people blame water

retention on salt but I don't believe it. I think people retain water because

they

don't drink enough (my doc told me to stop using salt and lower my water

intake right after he told me to go on a low fat diet--I'd be dead if I'd

followed

that advice.) I use sea salt and use as much as I want.

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You should probably try the quick test for edema. I think it's in

the Diabetes book. Basically you press your finger into the muscle

on the front of the shin. Hold for 5 seconds, then release. If you

still feel an indentation where you pressed that's an indication of

extracellular water or edema. The longer the indentation persists

the more severe the edema. I have 6 oz. of pineapple juice almost

every day because I have a tendency toward edema. Most fruits and

vegetables are high in potassium which also helps with getting the

right sodium/potassium balance. I don't notice an obvious diuretic

effect with the pineapple juice, but I have it in the morning so as

not to disrupt my sleep. Insomnia has been a big problem for me in

the past.

Good luck,

Cheryl

> From everyone's generous advice I have seriously upped my water

> consumption over the past few days, which hasn't been as easy as I

> thought it would be. But for me I feel like I'm retaining so much

> water in my tissues, despite constantly having to go to the

> bathroom. I can notice it in my stomach, thighs, calves, and was

> just wondering if this is normal at first, and how long it

typically

> takes for your body to adjust? I've read that bromelain found in

> pineapple can help combat water retention which is why it's

> beneficial, but is it necessary, or should I continue and my body

> will respond soon enough.

>

>

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I am on tenoretic and lasix because I am retaining fluid. I

take two 10MG tapazole a day.

Elaine

We are what we repeatedly do. --Aristotle

Hello susan

On Thursday, June 17, 2004, you wrote

> Does anyone know if I can safely take water pills while

> on tapizole, I want to go to my doctor and get some water

> pills since I have gained alot of water weight around my

> waist area! My thyroid messed up my menstrual cycles for

> almost 2 years so now I am paying the price LOL,,,I am

> otherwise thin and eat well, exercise and drink plenty of

> water, Does anyone else have this problem> Thanks Faye

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Try eating vegetables like asparagus (natural diuretic).

Check the internet for more vegetables that might help.

Me, I would call the doctor. In many cases water retention

indicates something and I would want to know what. My fluid

retention indicates my thyroid is out of whack and that my

blood pressure is high and that I am dealing with some

congestive heart failure as a result of both. I'm

interested in keeping tract of what is going on.

Elaine

There is only one quality worse than hardness of heart

and that is softness of head. --Theodore Roosevelt

Hello Kate

On Friday, June 18, 2004, you wrote

> Hi

> Even though I had RAI I am also going through a lot of water retention. My

> best guess would be about 20 lbs water. I am in the process of deciding

> whether I want to talk to the doctor about it or not. Somehow it's like

> booking an appointment for a battle...

> Does anyone know if there's anything in over the counter stuff, organic

> stuff, holistic stuff, etc that might help?

> Kate

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At 03:51 PM 6/18/2004, you wrote:

>Try eating vegetables like asparagus (natural diuretic).

No! Asparagus is high in iodine!

Water retention is usually associated with hypO. So adjusting medications

to get to better FT3 and FT4 levels may be in order.

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Just curious...I have been avoiding iodine like the plague but since I had

RAI do I really need to?

As for my thyroid meds, currently I am going through a slight rebalancing

act - less T4, more T3. But this water retention has been going on for

about 6 months.

Kate

Re: Water Retention

> At 03:51 PM 6/18/2004, you wrote:

> >Try eating vegetables like asparagus (natural diuretic).

>

> No! Asparagus is high in iodine!

> Water retention is usually associated with hypO. So adjusting medications

> to get to better FT3 and FT4 levels may be in order.

>

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I had severe ankle swelling, about 15 pounds extra weight in

both legs, and I was off the chart with hyperactivity. We

sure all face different things don't we?

How do you handle fish, garlic, lima beans, mushrooms,

seafood, sesame seeds, soybeans, spinach and turnip greens

and the like? I really have neither stopped nor been

cautioned by medical people to give up such foods. I try to

eat in moderation.

Elaine

We are what we repeatedly do. --Aristotle

Hello Psy.D.

On Friday, June 18, 2004, you wrote

> At 03:51 PM 6/18/2004, you wrote:

>>Try eating vegetables like asparagus (natural diuretic).

> No! Asparagus is high in iodine!

> Water retention is usually associated with hypO. So adjusting medications

> to get to better FT3 and FT4 levels may be in order.

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Interesting. I've never noticed any problem with those foods, but the only

thing I decided to pass on was all soy products. I have major problems when

I'm hypo with heart palps depression, and panic, and very similar problems

when I'm hyper except when I'm hyper my appetite is insane. I will try to

pay more attention to these foods. I also just learned yesterday that I

need to watch potassium since I'm on beta blockers. I certainly didn't plan

to become knowlegible in this area but it just seems to have to be.

K

Re: Water Retention

> I had severe ankle swelling, about 15 pounds extra weight in

> both legs, and I was off the chart with hyperactivity. We

> sure all face different things don't we?

>

> How do you handle fish, garlic, lima beans, mushrooms,

> seafood, sesame seeds, soybeans, spinach and turnip greens

> and the like? I really have neither stopped nor been

> cautioned by medical people to give up such foods. I try to

> eat in moderation.

>

> Elaine

>

> We are what we repeatedly do. --Aristotle

>

> Hello Psy.D.

>

> On Friday, June 18, 2004, you wrote

>

> > At 03:51 PM 6/18/2004, you wrote:

> >>Try eating vegetables like asparagus (natural diuretic).

>

> > No! Asparagus is high in iodine!

> > Water retention is usually associated with hypO. So adjusting

medications

> > to get to better FT3 and FT4 levels may be in order.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I don't like soy so it is a side issue with me, but I listed

it because I know many do.

I am taking potassium since I am on tenoretic and lasix and

they are being cautious.

Elaine

Life is lived forwards, but understood backwards.

Hello Kate

On Friday, June 18, 2004, you wrote

> Interesting. I've never noticed any problem with those foods, but the only

> thing I decided to pass on was all soy products. I have major problems when

> I'm hypo with heart palps depression, and panic, and very similar problems

> when I'm hyper except when I'm hyper my appetite is insane. I will try to

> pay more attention to these foods. I also just learned yesterday that I

> need to watch potassium since I'm on beta blockers. I certainly didn't plan

> to become knowlegible in this area but it just seems to have to be.

> K

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