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May 31, 2005

WOW!, You're already into Wed, June 1st. Where do you live?

Bev

<veetee@...> wrote:

Hi Bev,

Once I settled down on my thyroid meds for the first time in my life I had

dry skin on my face, particularly the bridge of the nose and between what is

left of my eyebrows! Six months on, my skin is back to oily again on my face

like it used to be.

My feet and shins were the worst for dryness. I have had cracked heels all

my life but that changed on meds, and they have stayed relatively soft,

thank God. I was always snagging tights and stirring up a snowstorm of dead

skin cells when I took tights off at the end of the day!!

Val

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> > > > >

> > > > > > So, the staring thing is a thyroid thing? HUMMMM.

> > > > > > Bev

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Chuck B <cblatchl@...> wrote:

> > > > > > Bev,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Chuck, what happens if you do to much exercise in one day?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There is more on this in our archives. The short version is that

> you

> > > > > > temporarily run out of T3 and become hypoT.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The rate at which you use T3 increases with exercise. Thus, you

> get

> > > the

> > > > > > paradoxical effect that exercise actually DECREASES your

> metabolism

> > > > > > instead of increasing it. I experience this as " the wall, " a

> sudden

> > > > > > extreme fatigue, causing me to just sit and stare for an hour or

> > two.

> > > If

> > > > > > I limit the time and intensity of the exercise, I don't run into

> > this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Folks on this list tell me that taking some form of T3 will

help,

> > but

> > > I

> > > > > > am still just on straight T4, at least so far.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Chuck

> > > > > >

May 31, 2005

Bev,

Hard to say really. But if pushed I would say it was the separate T3 being

added that helped. Plus I take a cocktail of vitamin supplements daily. I do

know B12 helps me. I resisted anti-depressants recently and I am glad I did

because I am nothing like how I was in mid February when my employers sent

me home, because I was crying all the time for no particular reason. I was a

mess with the brain fog, and feeling stupid because I kept forgetting things

at work.

I take all the vitamin supplements that are either required or made after

conversion of our T4 into T3.

I found a site that explained the break down of the process.

Tyrosine 500mgs

Thyroid hormone is made from Tyrosine once it is converted into

Phenylalanine (I do not take the latter separately)

At this stage Iron is needed to make this conversion, so I take an Iron and

Vit C combined tablet.

Moving onto the thyroid gland itself and further conversion, manganese is

used so I take 10mgs. At this stage you need L- Lysine and L- Tyrosine

500mgs each.

Reaching the liver, good T3 conversion is dependent upon zinc and selenium

25mgs and 200mgs respectively.

Once converted, pottasium makes the cells more responsive to T3 activity so

I take 99mgs of that.

I take my omega 3,6,9 in one tablet, and B12 throughout the day in doses of

up to 2000-3000mgs at a time.

I take a bunch of other stuff as well, specific for my hair and skin, and I

am good to go! All I am doing is mimicking what my thyroid is supposed to do

on its own, the meds are still necessary of course. This works for me.

Val

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May 31, 2005

Bev,

I live in Birmingham in the U.K.

Val

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> > > > > >

> > > > > > > So, the staring thing is a thyroid thing? HUMMMM.

> > > > > > > Bev

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Chuck B <cblatchl@...> wrote:

> > > > > > > Bev,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Chuck, what happens if you do to much exercise in one day?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There is more on this in our archives. The short version is

that

> > you

> > > > > > > temporarily run out of T3 and become hypoT.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The rate at which you use T3 increases with exercise. Thus,

you

> > get

> > > > the

> > > > > > > paradoxical effect that exercise actually DECREASES your

> > metabolism

> > > > > > > instead of increasing it. I experience this as " the wall, " a

> > sudden

> > > > > > > extreme fatigue, causing me to just sit and stare for an hour

or

> > > two.

> > > > If

> > > > > > > I limit the time and intensity of the exercise, I don't run

into

> > > this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Folks on this list tell me that taking some form of T3 will

> help,

> > > but

> > > > I

> > > > > > > am still just on straight T4, at least so far.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Chuck

> > > > > > >

May 31, 2005

I'm in Ohio,USA. I thought you might be from somewhere south of Florida, USA.

Bev

<veetee@...> wrote:

Bev,

Where are you, to be so surprised I am already into June 1st?!!!

Val

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May 31, 2005

I wish! We count summer on the fingers of one hand in the U.K! I am up at

the unseemly hour of 3.10 a.m. sorting my emails into folders. Sad aren't I?

I napped earlier in the evening, and that is why I am acting

uncharacteristically (being hypo) like a night owl!!!

This will be my last posting for the night, God Bless we'll no doubt talk

again, so enjoy the day ahead of you,

Cheers,

Val

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> >

> __________________________________________________

>

May 31, 2005

Hi Bev

No I havn't seen any photographys tried to put Gail's on the other day, but it

disappeared. We saw some photo's on a site but cant find it again though.

Which is the exact site you are on

Thanks

Daz

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May 31, 2005

Bev

Could you send them to our e-mail address, its in the message. That would be

good for Gail and I to see

Thank

Daz

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May 31, 2005

Hi

Could you let us have your e-mail address, and I'll send ours to you

Bye

Daz & Gail

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HI Daz,

Sure. Do you have my email address?

Bev

darren ashmore <dashngail@...> wrote:

Bev

Sorry for butting in but could I possible send Gails photography to you

personally

Thanks

Daz

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May 31, 2005

You have to be a member to veiw the pics. in the group I'm on. Is

dashngail@...

your email address? I will send my pics. to you.

Bev

darren ashmore <dashngail@...> wrote:

Hi Bev

No I havn't seen any photographys tried to put Gail's on the other day, but it

disappeared. We saw some photo's on a site but cant find it again though.

Which is the exact site you are on

Thanks

Daz

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October 29, 2007

CONGRATS on the weight loss Connie. I have made 98 pounds and can't wait for

the 100 mark! By the end of next week, it should be 100! Only 50 more to go!

I am very happy for you!

Debby

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I everyone. I am doing great recovering from my back surgery. I am so glad I

had it done. I have lost 40lbs so far since I have been off the prednisone, It

has been about 10 months. Some times I loose 10 lbs in a week. I feel so much

better. My goal is to at least loose as much wt. as I gained with the prednisone

which was 50lbs.

I haven't seen my hepatologist since last Nov. Although I do have an

appointment in Dec. I am so afraid I will have to have another biopsy, mine

first one was a very bad experience. I will never allow a hometown surgeon to do

it again.

Bless you all

Connie (AIH 2005)

November 5, 2007

DEBBY That is Fantastic on your weight lose. What is your secret are you

watching what you eat and exercise or weight watchers? I am not on as often as

I would like to and the I mostly lurk when I am kleening what I can from this

wonderful group. Anywho any great tips would be appreciated I would like to

lose just over 150. Jennie

tdcc2000@... wrote: CONGRATS on the weight loss Connie. I

have made 98 pounds and can't wait for the 100 mark! By the end of next week, it

should be 100! Only 50 more to go!

I am very happy for you!

Debby

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I everyone. I am doing great recovering from my back surgery. I am so glad I had

it done. I have lost 40lbs so far since I have been off the prednisone, It has

been about 10 months. Some times I loose 10 lbs in a week. I feel so much

better. My goal is to at least loose as much wt. as I gained with the prednisone

which was 50lbs.

I haven't seen my hepatologist since last Nov. Although I do have an appointment

in Dec. I am so afraid I will have to have another biopsy, mine first one was a

very bad experience. I will never allow a hometown surgeon to do it again.

Bless you all

Connie (AIH 2005)

November 5, 2007

Thank you for your kind words.

Jennie, first of all, I am listening to my body as to what it needs. Sometimes

it is carbs, veges, fruit, etc. It has been working for me. HOWEVER, in the

beginning, I just cut back to around 500 calories in order to get a jump start.

Now, though, I am TRYING to keep it at no more than 1000 a day. It usually

banks out around 800.

I exercise every day. I use the therabands, weights, the big balance ball, and

a 5 pound weighted ball. Today, I ran around the house for 15 minutes and did

arm lifts part of the time while I was running. I just had a knee replacement

in June, and have been able to sort of jog now and I am THRILLED! IT is

exciting to be able to do more than walk! Granted, it is not a full run, but it

is faster than a fast walk. It has been many years since I have been able to do

this! YIPEE!

I have always found that exercising for me is the key. I am trying to do

different things. Most of my exercise works on the core of my body...to

strengthen the core muscles. Once that is strong, balance is stronger, and I

have more energy!

Jennie, you can do it! I know you can. It is a long journey. I have been

working off and on for 2 years, but now I have decided to just get mya ct

together. I have foods that are low calorie.....celery, crackers, apples and it

is wonderful to eat. Actually, apples are delicious right now! I eat at least

two a day! I know that helps.

Well, I believe in you and I KNOW you can do it. I have been stuck at the 98

pound, but I WILL get that 100 mark this week.......I know I can do it!

Debby

[ ] Weight

I everyone. I am doing great recovering from my back surgery. I am so glad I

had it done. I have lost 40lbs so far since I have been off the prednisone, It

has been about 10 months. Some times I loose 10 lbs in a week. I feel so much

better. My goal is to at least loose as much wt. as I gained with the prednisone

which was 50lbs.

I haven't seen my hepatologist since last Nov. Although I do have an

appointment in Dec. I am so afraid I will have to have another biopsy, mine

first one was a very bad experience. I will never allow a hometown surgeon to do

it again.

Bless you all

Connie (AIH 2005)

November 7, 2007

Hi Debby,

congratulations on your weight loss, that's just great! I'm

trying to lose weight myself, anf my diet sounds very much like

yours. So fari I've lost about 20 kg (about 45 lb), about 1 kg

per week which was what the doctors recommended. At a faster rate

the liver values may go up, and in fact mine have actually gone

up a bit even at this rate. Have you had any changes in the liver

values?

I'm not able to exercise much at the moment, but the weight seems

to go down anyhow. My problem has always been that I don't lose

weight on the " normal " , Weight Watcher type 1500 calories/day

diets. Exercise doesn't seem to make much difference with me,

either, since I used to be a very athletic vegetarian :-) , but

still considerably overweight (although not as much as at the

moment). Knowing this I've now tried to get used to the idea that

this is how the rest of my life is going to be, dietwise - if I

go over 1000 calories per day on a regular basis, I start putting

on weight. Then again, I don't feel hungry on the 800-1000

calories, so I probably really don't need lots of calories, or

rather, my system is able to use up the calories very efficiently.

For people with normal metabolism I think it's best to start with

a higher amount of calories per day, say 1200-1500, because once

the body gets used to a certain amount, the weight loss may slow

down or stop altogether, and the calorie intake has to be reduced

in order for it to continue. That is easier if the initial

calorie intake is higher.

I've been stuck several times already, as well, the weight has

even gone up a few times, but in the end it always continues to

go down. So, just hang on in there! :-D

Jaana

5.11.2007 16:06, tdcc2000@... kirjoitti:

>

> Thank you for your kind words.

>

> Jennie, first of all, I am listening to my body as to what it needs.

> Sometimes it is carbs, veges, fruit, etc. It has been working for me.

> HOWEVER, in the beginning, I just cut back to around 500 calories in

> order to get a jump start. Now, though, I am TRYING to keep it at no

> more than 1000 a day. It usually banks out around 800.

>

> I exercise every day. I use the therabands, weights, the big balance

> ball, and a 5 pound weighted ball. Today, I ran around the house for 15

> minutes and did arm lifts part of the time while I was running. I just

> had a knee replacement in June, and have been able to sort of jog now

> and I am THRILLED! IT is exciting to be able to do more than walk!

> Granted, it is not a full run, but it is faster than a fast walk. It has

> been many years since I have been able to do this! YIPEE!

>

> I have always found that exercising for me is the key. I am trying to do

> different things. Most of my exercise works on the core of my body...to

> strengthen the core muscles. Once that is strong, balance is stronger,

> and I have more energy!

>

> Jennie, you can do it! I know you can. It is a long journey. I have been

> working off and on for 2 years, but now I have decided to just get mya

> ct together. I have foods that are low calorie.....celery, crackers,

> apples and it is wonderful to eat. Actually, apples are delicious right

> now! I eat at least two a day! I know that helps.

>

> Well, I believe in you and I KNOW you can do it. I have been stuck at

> the 98 pound, but I WILL get that 100 mark this week.......I know I can

> do it!

> Debby

November 8, 2007

Jaana, this weight loss has been much trial and error on my part. For me,

sticking to 8900-1000 calories per day has been working for me. If I get

hungry, I have learned to " listen " to what my stomach is really telling me.

For example, if I am craving sweets, I will eat an apple or some fruit. Then,

there are times, when I crave veges. Meat is way down the list, although, we

had company this last weekend and I made a very nice roast, so I have been

munching on a bit of it but not much. It seems that too much red meat makes my

stomach hurt! I think because it is very high in fat. Every time I eat red

meat, my stomach hurts. I have not had any butter at all for months. Just

won't eat it. (I have plenty of fat for reserve!)

The neatest thing is that I have found that the fruit and veges are sooooo

sweet. Sweeter than sugar at times. I use salt and pepper for seasoning, and

have been amazed at the sweet taste of real food!

Now for the exercise. Since I have had the knee replacement, I have been able

to exercise so much more effectively. I can jog around the house for 15-20

minutes (a mild miracle because to jog for more than 1 minute earlier was total

disaster!) I incorporate the physical therapy exercises that I have been given

with core workouts. Apparently, when the core of your body is strong, the

muscles in that group will help burn off the fat.

I watch " The Biggest Loser " each week...not for the program but for all of the

ideas for exercise that they have. I have discovered many good ideas for the

exercise program. And, if you notice, most of the people who had a very big

girth about the middle, have lost a lost of the fat which has been because the

trainers work on the core of their bodies.

Anyway, this is what has worked for me. It has taken a lot of different tries,

but now I have found what works for me.

I wish you luck!

Debby

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