Does Anyone know if Tramadol is considered an Opiate?

[Guest guest]

I`am trying to find a subscribing doc but first if

tramadol is considered an opiated I must wean myself off.

Not sure if its possible. I have such facial and head pain.

Any others been exposed to mold?

[Guest guest]

Hi nne,

Yes, tramadol is an opioid. Since withdrawal symptoms could occur if you were to

suddenly stop taking tramadol, starting on LDN while you are still taking

tramadol would be risky.

" Do not stop taking tramadol without talking to your doctor. Your doctor will

probably decrease your dose gradually. If you suddenly stop taking tramadol you

may experience withdrawal symptoms such as nervousness; panic; sweating;

difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep; runny nose, sneezing, or cough;

numbness, pain, burning, or tingling in your hands or feet; hair standing on

end; chills; nausea; uncontrollable shaking of a part of your body; diarrhea; or

rarely, hallucinations (seeing things or hearing voices that do not exist). "

Source:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a695011.html

Phil

>

> I`am trying to find a subscribing doc but first if

> tramadol is considered an opiated I must wean myself off.

> Not sure if its possible. I have such facial and head pain.

> Any others been exposed to mold?

>

[Guest guest]

Here is what is online regarding Tramadol. Always ask your pharmacist about drug information and interactions. We are very knowledgeable, but we are not chemists. One day our well meaning advice could land you in the hospital, or worse.

GENERIC NAME: tramadol

BRAND NAME: Ultram, Ultram ER

DRUG CLASS AND MECHANISM: Tramadol is a man-made (synthetic) analgesic (pain reliever). Its exact mechanism of action is unknown but similar morphine. Like morphine, tramadol binds to receptors in the brain (opioid receptors) that are important for transmitting the sensation of pain from throughout the body to. Tramadol, like other narcotics used for the treatment of pain, may be abused. Tramadol is not a nonsteroidal antiinflammatory drug (NSAID) and does not have the increased risk of stomach ulceration and internal bleeding that can occur with NSAIDs.

Does Anyone know if Tramadol is considered an Opiate?

Posted by: "nne" Roxygardens@... roxygardens

Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:21 pm (PDT)

I`am trying to find a subscribing doc but first if tramadol is considered an opiated I must wean myself off.Not sure if its possible. I have such facial and head pain.Any others been exposed to mold?

[Guest guest]

Drugs not to take with LDN

LDN will block the

analgesic effects of any opiate drug. In

general, Low Dose Naltrexone (LDN) should not be taken concurrently with

opioid-containing drugs, immunosuppressive drugs, or immunomodulator

drugs. Do not take Low Dose Naltrexone

with any of the following without first consulting your doctor:

May not include each

brand name available on the market.

Prescription Medications

6MP – (Need to be

off 1 week before starting LDN)

Acetyldihydrocodone

Actifed with Codeine

Cough Syrup ®

Actiq ®

(Fentanyl)

Alfenta ® (Alfentinil)

Alfentinil (Alfenta)

Ambenyl

Amogel PG ®

Antibuse ® (Disulfiram)

Aspirin with Codeine

Astramorph PF ®

Avonex

Betaseron

Broncholate CS

Buprenex ® (Buprenorphine)

Buprenorphine (Buprenex®, Suboxone®, Subutex®)

Butorphanol (Dorolex®,

Stadol® was recently discontinued by the manufacturer. It is now only available

in its generic formulations, manufactured by Novex, Mylan, Apotex and Roxane.

Butorphanol)

Capital and Codeine

Oral Solution

Catapres ®

(Clonidine)

Cellcept (chemotherapy)

Cesamet ®

(Nabilone)

Chemotherapies (Cellcept)

Cheracol

Clonidine (Catapres)

Codeine (Tylenol

with codeine or any other brand name)

Codinal PH ®

Darvocet ®

(Propoxyphene)

Darvon (Propoxyphene)

Deconsal

Demerol ® (Meperidine)

Diabismul ®

Diamorphine

Dihydrocodeine

Dilaudid ®

(Hydromorphone)

Dimetane-DC Cough

Syrup ®

Diphenoxylate

Disulfiram (Antabuse)

Doda

Dolophine ®

(Methadone)

Donnagel-PG ®

Dovolex ®

Dronabinol, THC (Marinol)

Duragesic/Fentanyl

patch ®

Duramorph ®

Emprin with Codeine

®

Endocet ®

(Oxycontin)

Endocodone ®

Fentanyl (Duragesic,

Aqtic, Sublimaze, Fentora)

Fentora ®

(Fentanyl)

Fioricet with Codeine

®

Fiorinal with Codeine

®

Heroin

Humira – Need to

stop 2 weeks prior to taking LDN.

Hycodan ®

Hydrocodone (Lorcet, Lortab, Vicodin, Vicoprofen and other brand names)

Hydromorphone (Dilaudid)

Hyrocane

Imidium AD ®

Infantol Pink ®

Infumorph

Isoclor Expectorant

Kadian ®

(Morphine)

Kaodene with Codeine®

Kaodene with

Paregoric ®

LAAM

Laudanum

Levorphanol (Levo-Dromoran)

Levo-Dromoran ®

(Levorphanol)

Lomotil

Lorcet ®

(Hydrocodone)

Lortab ®

(Hydrocodone)

Marinol ®

(Dronabinol, THC)

Mellaril ® (Thioridazine)

Meperidine

(Demerol, Meperitab)

Meperitab ®

(Meperidine)

Methadone (Dolophine,

Methadose)

Methadose ®

(Methadone)

Methotrexate

Morphine (Kadian,

MS Contin, MSIR, OMS, Roxanol, Oramorph SR, and other brand names)

M-Oxy (Oxycontin)

MS Contin ®

(Morphine)

MSIR ® (Morphine)

Nabilone ®

(Cesamet)

Nalbuphine

(Nubain)

Naloxone ®

(Pentazocine)

Norco

Novahistine DH ®

Novahistine

Expectorant

Novantrone

Nubain ®

(Nalbuphine)

Nucofed

Expectorant

Numorphan ®

(Oxymorphone)

Numorphone ®

OMS (Morphine)

Opana ®

(Oxymorphone)

Opium

Oramorph SR

(Morphine)

Oxymorpone (Opana,

Numorphan)

Oxycodone

Oxycontin (M-Oxy,

OxyContin, OxyIR, Roxicodone, Endocet, Percocet, Percodan, and other brand

names)

OxyContin

(Oxycontin)

OxyIR (Oxycontin)

Oxymorphone

(Numorphan)

Paracodine ®

Paregoric

Par-Glycerol-C (CV)

Pentazocine (Naloxone,

Talwin)

Percocet ®

(Oxycontin)

Percodan ®

(Oxycontin)

Pethidine

Pediacof ®

Phenaphen with

Codeine ®

Phenergan with

Codeine ®

Phenergan VC ®

Poly-Histine

Promethazine VC with

Codeine

Propoxyphene (Darvocet.

Darvon and other brand names)

Rebif

Remicade – Must

be off 50 days.

Remifentinil (Ultiva)

Rescudose

Robitussin A-C ®

Robitussin DAC ®

Roxanol (Morphine)

Roxicodone ®

(Oxycontin)

Soma with Codeine

Stadol ®

(Butorphanol)

Sublimaze ®

(Fentanyl)

Suboxone

Subutrex ® (Buprenorphine)

Sufenta ®

(Sufentinil)

Sufentinil (Sufenta)

Talwin ® (Pentazocine)

Thioridazine (Mellaril)

Tramadol (Ultram)

Triaminic Expectorant

with Codeine ®

Tussionex

Tussi-Organiden

Tylenol with Codeine

®

Tylenol with Codeine (#1,

2, 3, or 4)

Tylox

Tysabri

Tussar-2 ®

Tussar SF ®

Ultiva ®

(Remifentinil)

Ultram (Tramadol)

Vicodin ®

Vicoprofen

Xodol

Zydone

Note: The list is only a representative sample of the

prescription and non-prescription medications that contain codeine or morphine.

Because LDN will also block the analgesic effects of any

opiate drugs (includes codeine, dihydrocodeine, morphine, pethidine or

diamorphine) presently being taken, the use of LDN will initially greatly

increase the level of pain experienced. It is therefore advisable that any

opiate-like drugs be discontinued at least two weeks before this treatment is

initiated. When starting the treatment it is essential that any untoward or

adverse side-effects are reported immediately so that the treatment process can

be further assessed and, if necessary, modified. Dr. M R Lawrence

If an emergency situation requires

that opioid analgesia be administered to a patient who has received naltrexone,

the amount of opioid required may be greater than usual, and the resulting

respiratory depression may be deeper and more prolonged. Patients should be

closely monitored for altered efficacy and safety.

In addition, because LDN will also block the analgesic

effects of any opiate drugs (includes Codeine, Dihydrocodeine, Morphine,

Pethidine or Diamorphine) presently being taken, the use of LDN will initially

greatly increase the level of pain experienced. It is therefore advisable that

any opiate-like drugs be discontinued at least two weeks before this treatment

is initiated. Because LDN blocks opioid receptors throughout the body for three

or four hours, people using medicine that is an opioid agonist, i.e. narcotic

medication — such as Ultram (tramadol), morphine, Percocet, Duragesic patch or

codeine-containing medication — should not take LDN until such medicine is

completely out of one's system. Patients who have become dependent on daily use

of narcotic-containing pain medication may require 10 days to 2 weeks of slowly

weaning off of such drugs entirely (while first substituting full doses of

non-narcotic pain medications) before being able to begin LDN safely. If you should take an opiate type drug while taking LDN

their effects will cancel each other out. If you will be needing surgery, you

should not take LDN for 24 to 48 hours previously. You may then resume the LDN

24 to 48 hours after the last dose of an opiate containing drug. LDN can put a person taking narcotics into

withdrawal if started too early.

People who have received organ transplants and who therefore

are taking immunosuppressive medication on a permanent basis are cautioned

against the use of LDN because it may act to counter the effect of those

medications.

Steroids

There are some authorities who believe steroids, short term,

are compatible with LDN. There are others, however, who would disagree. One

example is Dr. M.R. Lawrence, an English physician with multiple sclerosis who

treats his condition with LDN. This is his advice regarding drugs to avoid when

taking LDN:

Because LDN stimulates the immune system and many of the

drugs routinely used by the NHS in the treatment of MS [and other conditions]

further suppress the immune system, LDN cannot be used in company with

Steroids, Beta Interferon, Methotrexate, Azathioprine or Mitozantrone or any

other immune suppressant drug. If there is any doubt, please submit [to your

doctor] a full list of the drugs you are presently taking so that their

compatibility may be assessed.

Dr. Lawrence -

What do I do if I need steroids

from Dr. Lawrence

Dr. Lawrence from the UK has MS and uses LDN as his

treatment.

Dr. Lawrence's thoughts below...

Another frustration is the repeated question: "What

do I do if I need steroids?" My response to this is simple! You DO NOT

need steroids!

Because exacerbations are due to oxidative stress, usually

associated with an infective, traumatic, or emotional event, the more

suitable treatment is antioxidants - at high dosage! Apart from the basic

antioxidans that we all know (zinc, copper, selenium, vit C, E, and beta

carotene) there is a vast and increasing list of other antioxidants that may

also be used: flavonoid OPCs; alpha lipoic acid, acety N-carnitine;

phosphatidyl serine; etc, etc. Used at high dosage these are as capable as

steroids in reducing the intensity and development of relapses or

exacerbations without the downside and adverse effects of steroids.

The below is by Dr. Lawrence's assistant giving further

explanation.

Action to Take in MS, in the Event of a Relapse or

Exacerbation

While taking LDN, relapses of MS are much less likely to

occur, but may be associated with any situation of physical or emotional

stress. This should more precisely be referred to as a reactive exacerbation

as, in this situation, the increase in symptoms is not directly related to a

spontaneous increase in MS activity.

Such stress-associated exacerbations are invariably due to

some kind of exceptional circumstance that imposes an additional demand on

the immune system, thus reducing the ability of the immune system to deal

adequately with the disease itself. The most likely event prompting this

response is either infection, injury or trauma of some kind.

In this circumstance, when MS symptoms are seen to

increase significantly, many MS patients will be tempted to accept the

routine advice of

conventional neurologists, which is to submit to a course

of steroid drugs. This choice is both inappropriate and ill-advised.

Steroid use in any auto-immune disease, such as MS, will

have a strong adverse effect by suppressing both the immune system and

adrenal function. Thus, when these drugs are stopped, these reactions will

result in an increase in both the risk of further relapse, and the rate of

disease progression. In addition, when steroids are used, it will become

necessary to stop taking the LDN, further disrupting the level of disease

stability.

Thus, if a relapse should occur, for whatever reason, the

most important action is to continue the LDN without a break.

In addition, the nutrient therapy, which is also effective

in protecting and promoting the function of the immune system, should be

continued at optimum

levels.

Because relapses of MS are related to what is referred to

as oxidative stress, the most effective therapy will be the antioxidants.

These nutrients will therefore include, most importantly,

zinc and copper, at the dose required by the zinc taste test; and all the

routine antioxidants (selenium; vitamin C; vitamin E, and beta carotene), at

optimum dosage. This will mean doubling the dose beyond that considered

appropriate for routine use. Thus, doubling the dose will provide vitamin C,

2000 mg; vitamin E, 800 international units; selenium, 400 mcg; beta

carotene, 30 mg.

Vitamin D and EPA fish oil will also be required within

this overall therapeutic context.

The anthocyanidins too are very effective antioxidants,

permitting the recycling and re-use of both vitamin C and vitamin E within

the body.

Anthocyanidins, otherwise known as oligomeric

pro-anthocyanidins, or OPCs, are plant derived flavonoids that have a

powerful antioxidant activity.

The recommended dose during a normal state of activity of

the MS is between 250 and 500 mg/ day. During a significant exacerbation this

dose may be increased beyond that to as much as 500 to 1000 mg/ day.

Examples of anthocyanidins include pine bark extract,

often sold as pycnogenol. As a patented product, for the modest dose

provided, usually 30mg, this is relatively very expensive. Conversely,

grapeseed extract is one of the cheapest flavonoids available. Others include

green tea extract, and extracts from many dark-coloured seeds, such as

bilberries, blueberries or blackberries.

This overall method will be far more effective at

controlling any increase in disease activity with no threat of further

relapse, as occurs with an intense phase of treatment with steroids.

==========

However anyone who is on steroids would need to follow a

doctor’s advice if coming off them.

Chemotherapy

Because most

chemotherapeutic agents are immunosuppressants, they will directly oppose the

beneficial immune system up regulation induced by LDN. While it is possible to

take chemotherapy simultaneously with LDN, it will, in my view, take LDN

significantly longer to accomplish its therapeutic goal. Furthermore, LDN would

work against the full effectiveness of the chemotherapy. The situation would be

analagous to a person trying to ride a bicycle with its brakes on. Since we do not live in a perfect world,

there will be circumstances in which the combination of LDN and chemotherapy

cannot be avoided. In such cases, there are a number of measures one can

implement to counteract the side effects of chemotherapy without (hopefully)

further compromising the effectiveness of LDN.

Other cautions:

Immodium AD – Naltrexone tested at 25 mg + blocks the effect

of Loperamide Hydrochloride (Immodium) against diarrhea. Bismuth compounds

(Pepto-Bismol) may be used for mild nausea or diarrhea, and Octreotide Acetate

(Sandostatin) may be used for severe diarrhea, and Ondansetron Hydrochloride

(Zofran) may be used for nausea and vomiting – especially with acidental

naltrexone- precipitated opiate withdrawal. It has not been established whether

Imodium AD at doses of uder 5 mg would have the same effect.

Okay, everyone lets stop before this gets to be one of those

urban myths that just won't be corrected.

1. Proton pumps are antacids that work on the parietal cells

of the stomach and parts of the intestines. It reduces the pH of these

areas. This is not a problem with LDN. Let me repeat this, its is

not a problem with LDN.

2. Calcium carbonate is not a problem when taken with

LDN. let me repeat that. Calcium carbonate is not a problem when taken

with LDN. CalCarb is an antacid like tums.

3. Calcium carbonate when compounded as the filler for LDN

is a problem.

Please read very carefully. (can you tell the phone calls

have been coming in on this )

Dr. Skip

Hashimoto Thyroiditis

Those patients who are taking thyroid hormone replacement

for a diagnosis of Hashimoto’s thyroiditis with hypothyroidism ought to begin

LDN at the lowest range (1.5mg for an adult). Be aware that LDN may lead to a

prompt decrease in the autoimmune disorder, which then may require a rapid

reduction in the dose of thyroid hormone replacement in order to avoid symptoms

of hyperthyroidism.

Multiple Sclerosis

In addition, because LDN stimulates the immune system and

many of the drugs routinely used by the NHS in the treatment of MS further

suppress the immune system, LDN cannot be used in company with steroids, Beta

interferon, Methotrexate, Azathioprine or Mitozantrone or any other immune

suppressant drugs. If there is any doubt, please submit a full list of the

drugs you are presently taking so that their compatibility may be assessed.

Dr. Bob Lawrence.

When starting this LDN(Low Dose Naltrexone) therapy in the

treatment of MS, there may also be some initial transient, though temporary,

increase in MS symptoms. Experience in

using this method has demonstrated most commonly, such as disturbed sleep,

occasionally with vivid, bizarre and disturbing dreams, tiredness, fatigue,

spasm and pain. These increased symptoms would not normally be expected to last

more than seven to ten days.

Rarely, other transient symptoms have included more severe

pain and spasm, headache, diarrhea or vomiting. These additional symptoms would

appear to be associated with the previous frequent use of strong analgesics,

which effectively create an addiction and dependency, thus increasing the

body's sensitivity to pain. This temporary increase in symptoms may also

perhaps be explained when we consider the manner in which this drug is expected

to work. In addition, because LDN will

also block the analgesic effects of any opiate drugs (includes Codeine,

Dihydrocodeine, Morphine, Pethidine or Diamorphine) presently being taken, the

use of LDN will initially greatly

increase the level of pain experienced. It is therefore advisable that any opiate-like drugs be

discontinued at least two weeks before this treatment is initiated. When

starting the treatment it is essential that any untoward or adverse

side-effects are reported immediately so that the treatment process can be

further assessed and, if necessary, modified.

DL-Phenylalanine (DLPA). DLPA, which is also said to enhance

the effectiveness of LDN, should be taken twice a day on an empty stomach in

doses of 500 mg. Also a natural product that helps to alleviate pain. It should

not, however, be used by people with high blood pressure.

Analgesics approved for use with LDN include Moxxor,

aspirin, Tylenol®, Advil®, Motrin®, Aleve®, Naprosyn®, Ansaid®, Dolobid®,

Orudis®, Voltaren®, Feldene®, Mobic®.

It is important to submit to your doctor a full list of the

drugs you are presently taking so that their compatibility may be assessed.

Analgesics approved for use with LDN include Moxxor,

aspirin, Tylenol®, Advil®, Motrin®, Aleve®, Naprosyn®, Ansaid®, Dolobid®,

Orudis®, Voltaren®, Feldene®, Mobic®.

DL-Phenylalanine (DLPA). DLPA, which is also said to enhance

the effectiveness of LDN, should be taken twice a day on an empty stomach in

doses of 500 mg. Also a natural product that helps to alleviate pain. It should

not, however, be used by people with high blood pressure.

May there be a miracle in YOUR life today and may you have the EYES to see it.From My Heart to YoursLove, Hugs & Blessings, CrystalLDN_Users Group OwnerDiagnosed November 2004 with Secondary Progressive MS, Transverse Myelitis and an Advocate for LDN!! 4 years on LDN with Skip's Pharmacy..... No Relapses....Crystal's MS,TM & LDN Websitewww.crystalsmstmldn.org Boyle Bradley’s LDN Online Radio Showhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/mary-boyle-bradleyLDN Websitewww.ldninfo.org Crystal's LDN Support GroupLDN_Users/LowDose Naltrexone Databasehttp://ldn-database.carnebeach.com/LDN Help - International Users' Resourceswww.ldn-help.com Up the Creek with a Paddlewww.marybradleybooks.comSkip's CompoundingPharmacywww.skipspharmacy.com "We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves strong. The amount of work is the same." From: pcalvert.rm <pcalvert@...>To:

low dose naltrexone Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 4:44:35 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Does Anyone know if Tramadol is considered an Opiate?

Hi nne,

Yes, tramadol is an opioid. Since withdrawal symptoms could occur if you were to suddenly stop taking tramadol, starting on LDN while you are still taking tramadol would be risky.

"Do not stop taking tramadol without talking to your doctor. Your doctor will probably decrease your dose gradually. If you suddenly stop taking tramadol you may experience withdrawal symptoms such as nervousness; panic; sweating; difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep; runny nose, sneezing, or cough; numbness, pain, burning, or tingling in your hands or feet; hair standing on end; chills; nausea; uncontrollable shaking of a part of your body; diarrhea; or rarely, hallucinations (seeing things or hearing voices that do not exist)."

Source:

http://www.nlm. nih.gov/medlinep lus/druginfo/ meds/a695011. html

Phil

[Guest guest]

Several well respected LDN doctors are now saying that it is alright to take Tramadol with LDN. It seems to work on different receptors than opiates.

Judy HTo better health through knowledgeStarted taking LDN (Low Dose Naltrexone) on 1/21/2009 for Fibromyalgia, Hypothyroid, PCOS and Restless LegsLDNforFibro/

Posted by: "nne" Roxygardens@... roxygardens

Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:21 pm (PDT)

I`am trying to find a subscribing doc but first if tramadol is considered an opiated I must wean myself off.Not sure if its possible. I have such facial and head pain.Any others been exposed to mold?

[Guest guest]

Hi Judy,

Can you point us to some references? I'm sure there are more than a few people

who would like to learn more about this.

Phil

>

> Several well respected LDN doctors are now saying that it is alright to take

Tramadol with LDN. It seems to work on different receptors than opiates.

>

> Judy H

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't take Tramadol with LDN because myself and a few others have and made us very sick and one person I believe got really sick from taking the 2 together. May there be a miracle in YOUR life today and may you have the EYES to see it.From My Heart to YoursLove, Hugs & Blessings, CrystalLDN_Users Group OwnerDiagnosed November 2004 with Secondary Progressive MS, Transverse Myelitis and an Advocate for LDN!! 4 years on LDN with Skip's Pharmacy..... No

Relapses....Crystal's MS,TM & LDN Websitewww.crystalsmstmldn.org Boyle Bradley’s LDN Online Radio Showhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/mary-boyle-bradleyLDN Websitewww.ldninfo.org

Crystal's LDN Support GroupLDN_Users/LowDose Naltrexone Databasehttp://ldn-database.carnebeach.com/LDN Help - International Users' Resourceswww.ldn-help.com

Up the Creek with a Paddlewww.marybradleybooks.comSkip's CompoundingPharmacywww.skipspharmacy.com "We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves strong. The amount of work is the same." From: pcalvert.rm <pcalvert@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 10:58:25 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Does Anyone know if Tramadol is considered an Opiate?

Hi Judy,

Can you point us to some references? I'm sure there are more than a few people who would like to learn more about this.

Phil

>

> Several well respected LDN doctors are now saying that it is alright to take Tramadol with LDN. It seems to work on different receptors than opiates.

>

> Judy H

[Guest guest]



Great Info...a Keeper. Dr. Lawrence also mentions Pycnogenol and Grapeseed Extract. I have received profound good health from taking one or the other of these antioxidants now for almost 15 yrs!!!!! Sinus/Allergy issues are history for one sure thing..... joyce

[low dose naltrexone] Re: Does Anyone know if Tramadol is considered an Opiate?

Hi nne,Yes, tramadol is an opioid. Since withdrawal symptoms could occur if you were to suddenly stop taking tramadol, starting on LDN while you are still taking tramadol would be risky."Do not stop taking tramadol without talking to your doctor. Your doctor will probably decrease your dose gradually. If you suddenly stop taking tramadol you may experience withdrawal symptoms such as nervousness; panic; sweating; difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep; runny nose, sneezing, or cough; numbness, pain, burning, or tingling in your hands or feet; hair standing on end; chills; nausea; uncontrollable shaking of a part of your body; diarrhea; or rarely, hallucinations (seeing things or hearing voices that do not exist)."Source:http://www.nlm. nih.gov/medlinep lus/druginfo/ meds/a695011. htmlPhil

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[Guest guest]

You would have to speak to your own doctor or pharmacist personally about this. However I had to go the hospital in severe pain and I told the Emergency Room Dr that I was taking LDN and that I couldn't take any Opiate type drugs. I told her I could take Tylenol. She sent the nurse back with Tramadol and I did take it (not knowing what it was) and it did help to take the edge off the pain (I had taken LDN about 15 hours previously). I had no problem with either the Tramadol or my LDN. Of course I only took two pills so I don't know how it would work to take them both consistently. When I mentioned it on the LDNforFibro list I was told by someone that goes to Dr Younger at Stanford that he also said it was alright to take a Tramadol with LDN.

I was also prescribed some Tramadol to take at home. I talked to my pharmacists and she looked it up. She said she could find 'No contraindications' in taking Tramadol with Naltrexone. Will it work for anybody? Will it work for everybody? Does it make a difference if it is used regularly as apposed to just occasionally? I don't know.

I have looked up both Naltrexone and Tramadol online and did come across this website.

http://opioids.com/tramadol/index.html

I thought it did a good job of explaining what Tramadol is and how it works. It says "it has a low affinity for opioid receptors". It also says "in contrast to other opioids, the analgesic action of tramadol is only partially inhibited by the opioid antagonist naloxone, which suggests the existence of another mechanism of action.

So again, it looks like it might be okay to take Tramadol with Low Dose Naltrexone, but again it is something that should only be done with your doctor's knowledge. Each person is different and has the possibility of reacting differently to taking these two drugs together.

Judy HTo better health through knowledgeStarted taking LDN (Low Dose Naltrexone) on 1/21/2009 for Fibromyalgia, Hypothyroid, PCOS and Restless LegsLDNforFibro/

Posted by: "pcalvert.rm" pcalvert@... pcalvert.rm

Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:59 pm (PDT)

Hi Judy,Can you point us to some references? I'm sure there are more than a few people who would like to learn more about this.Phil