Re: colony found in toilet

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I know it sounds gross, but I have been doing the salt/c protocol amongst all

the other stuff.

This morning I found a colony floating in the toilet!!! OMG... Looked under a

strong magnifying glass I could see all of it.

How do I preserve this specimen for my LLMD. Amazing!

Thanks ahead of time,

Jeannie

[Guest guest]

jeannie,

could you explain what you do for the salt/c protocol. is your llmd backing

you on the protocol as i have heard that the high salt intake can mess

things up in your body/balance.

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Jeannie <gemstar727@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I know it sounds gross, but I have been doing the salt/c protocol amongst

> all the other stuff.

>

> This morning I found a colony floating in the toilet!!! OMG... Looked under

> a strong magnifying glass I could see all of it.

>

> How do I preserve this specimen for my LLMD. Amazing!

>

> Thanks ahead of time,

> Jeannie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

le,

Yes he said the salt/C protocol was fine by him. In fact I put the d*** thing

on a wet paper towel and a plastic baggie (keeping it moist) because I have no

formaldehyde (sp)?

He wants me to bring it in today - an hour and a half away, but I'm excited to

have some " evidence " ! It have 12 long strands! Ugly sucker! Sorry!

I do the protocol twice to three times a day, but drink a lot of water! I'm

jazzed! After 18 years, finally!

Jeannie

Re: [ ] Re: colony found in toilet

jeannie,

could you explain what you do for the salt/c protocol. is your llmd backing

you on the protocol as i have heard that the high salt intake can mess

things up in your body/balance.

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Jeannie <gemstar727@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I know it sounds gross, but I have been doing the salt/c protocol amongst

> all the other stuff.

>

> This morning I found a colony floating in the toilet!!! OMG... Looked under

> a strong magnifying glass I could see all of it.

>

> How do I preserve this specimen for my LLMD. Amazing!

>

> Thanks ahead of time,

> Jeannie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Colony of what? Lyme will not be visible at all to the naked eye. It

requires a very high powered microscope. Its possible you have worms though

and these would be visible.

When you say LLMD is he a medical doctor (i.e. md after his name) or some

other type of doctor?

> Re: [ ] Re: colony found in toilet

>

> jeannie,

> could you explain what you do for the salt/c protocol. is

> your llmd backing you on the protocol as i have heard that

> the high salt intake can mess things up in your body/balance.

>

> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Jeannie <gemstar727@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I know it sounds gross, but I have been doing the salt/c protocol

> > amongst all the other stuff.

> >

> > This morning I found a colony floating in the toilet!!!

> OMG... Looked

> > under a strong magnifying glass I could see all of it.

> >

> > How do I preserve this specimen for my LLMD. Amazing!

> >

> > Thanks ahead of time,

> > Jeannie

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes he has a MD after his name. These things look like the photos I have seen

online and in books.

They will be able to tell me. Took a macro photo of it too. The photographer

in me. www.lymephotos.com.

Anyways, no big deal if they aren't. But to me it's something.

[Guest guest]

What kind of Salt are you using? I have Himalayan and I did the Salt C protocol

with the Vitamin C Emercen Packets of 1000mg. Because I did CS first herxed

really bad and then did this I am not sure what actually made me feel better. I

had a good 3 weeks over the last 3 months. I'm not sure what to do anymore. I

know I have to find something and stick with it but I don't know which way to

go. I feel overloaded with info. I've been back on CS for 3 weeks now and have

been herxing or just not feeling well the whole time. I had 2 ok days and thats

it. I feel like my body is just never gettting a break from pain everywhere

everyday.

I also take Oxycodone but I feel that I am cleaning my body with one thing and

poisoning it with another but if I don't take my pain meds I can't work if I

can't work I can't eat. My kids and husband also have lyme. We have recently

found an LLMD who is a nuerologist and nutritionist but we can only afford to

treat one at a time. My next payday is tomorrow I am considering adding

Bruhner's core protocol I am already doing most of the Collogeanous tissue

support protocol it is just going to get really expensive if we are doing all of

these herbs and supps plus CS plus new doc for my daughter this is all so

insane.

________________________________

From: <msadams@...>

Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 11:26:34 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] Re: colony found in toilet

Colony of what? Lyme will not be visible at all to the naked eye. It

requires a very high powered microscope. Its possible you have worms though

and these would be visible.

When you say LLMD is he a medical doctor (i.e. md after his name) or some

other type of doctor?

> Re: [ ] Re: colony found in toilet

>

> jeannie,

> could you explain what you do for the salt/c protocol. is

> your llmd backing you on the protocol as i have heard that

> the high salt intake can mess things up in your body/balance.

>

> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Jeannie <gemstar727@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I know it sounds gross, but I have been doing the salt/c protocol

> > amongst all the other stuff.

> >

> > This morning I found a colony floating in the toilet!!!

> OMG... Looked

> > under a strong magnifying glass I could see all of it.

> >

> > How do I preserve this specimen for my LLMD. Amazing!

> >

> > Thanks ahead of time,

> > Jeannie

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Perhaps it is a colony encased in biofilm?

I am doing the salt/c protocol as well; about 3 1/2 months into it. Have never

seen anything like that in my toilet!

Jeannie, please post on Lymestrategies (if you are a member) so others might

comment as well.

deb

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I know it sounds gross, but I have been doing the salt/c protocol

> > > amongst all the other stuff.

> > >

> > > This morning I found a colony floating in the toilet!!!

> > OMG... Looked

> > > under a strong magnifying glass I could see all of it.

> > >

> > > How do I preserve this specimen for my LLMD. Amazing!

> > >

> > > Thanks ahead of time,

> > > Jeannie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

i know this may sound gross and ignorant but when " it " comes out of you is

it from urinating or defecating? and...can you take a pic and load it on so

we can see? i daily do the neti pot with warm water and saline and have had

weird stuff come out my nose, lol!

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Jeannie <gemstar727@...> wrote:

>

>

> le,

>

> Yes he said the salt/C protocol was fine by him. In fact I put the d***

> thing on a wet paper towel and a plastic baggie (keeping it moist) because I

> have no formaldehyde (sp)?

>

> He wants me to bring it in today - an hour and a half away, but I'm excited

> to have some " evidence " ! It have 12 long strands! Ugly sucker! Sorry!

>

> I do the protocol twice to three times a day, but drink a lot of water! I'm

> jazzed! After 18 years, finally!

>

> Jeannie

> Re: [ ] Re: colony found in toilet

>

> jeannie,

> could you explain what you do for the salt/c protocol. is your llmd backing

>

> you on the protocol as i have heard that the high salt intake can mess

> things up in your body/balance.

>

> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Jeannie

<gemstar727@...<gemstar727%40>>

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I know it sounds gross, but I have been doing the salt/c protocol amongst

>

> > all the other stuff.

> >

> > This morning I found a colony floating in the toilet!!! OMG... Looked

> under

> > a strong magnifying glass I could see all of it.

> >

> > How do I preserve this specimen for my LLMD. Amazing!

> >

> > Thanks ahead of time,

> > Jeannie

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I checked that site. Are you saying it looks like the photos on

http://www.lymephotos.com/bb/index.html?

Speaking of, I often see spirochete-shaped floaters in my eye. If these can be

seen with the naked eye in the toilet, can the floaters I see be live (or dead)

spirochetes?

deb

>

> Yes he has a MD after his name. These things look like the photos I have seen

online and in books.

>

> They will be able to tell me. Took a macro photo of it too. The photographer

in me. www.lymephotos.com.

>

> Anyways, no big deal if they aren't. But to me it's something.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Yes, when I get back I'll try and send a pic. At the LLMD's office. He has

decided to send it off, will take about a week. This specimen came from a BM.

We'll see...

Jeannie

(There were more to follow, gave doc three samples) lol

Re: [ ] Re: colony found in toilet

>

> jeannie,

> could you explain what you do for the salt/c protocol. is your llmd backing

>

> you on the protocol as i have heard that the high salt intake can mess

> things up in your body/balance.

>

> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Jeannie

<gemstar727@...<gemstar727%40>>

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I know it sounds gross, but I have been doing the salt/c protocol amongst

>

> > all the other stuff.

> >

> > This morning I found a colony floating in the toilet!!! OMG... Looked

> under

> > a strong magnifying glass I could see all of it.

> >

> > How do I preserve this specimen for my LLMD. Amazing!

> >

> > Thanks ahead of time,

> > Jeannie

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Deb,

They were identical, even my fiance. I was surprised how alike they looked. I

also have a ton of floaters and wonder the same thing.

Jeannie

[ ] Re: colony found in toilet

I checked that site. Are you saying it looks like the photos on

http://www.lymephotos.com/bb/index.html?

Speaking of, I often see spirochete-shaped floaters in my eye. If these can be

seen with the naked eye in the toilet, can the floaters I see be live (or dead)

spirochetes?

deb

>

> Yes he has a MD after his name. These things look like the photos I have seen

online and in books.

>

> They will be able to tell me. Took a macro photo of it too. The photographer

in me. www.lymephotos.com.

>

> Anyways, no big deal if they aren't. But to me it's something.

>

[Guest guest]

I had a couple of colonies expelled from urine immediately after beginning

salt/c and I was on the lowest dose (1gm:1gm).

I only knew what they were because I had seen them on youtube.

 Got oil? 

www.crudethemovie.com

www.H2oildoc.com

________________________________

From: Jeannie <gemstar727@...>

Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 4:57:02 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: colony found in toilet

 

Hi,

Yes, when I get back I'll try and send a pic. At the LLMD's office. He has

decided to send it off, will take about a week. This specimen came from a BM.

We'll see...

Jeannie

(There were more to follow, gave doc three samples) lol

Re: [ ] Re: colony found in toilet

>

> jeannie,

> could you explain what you do for the salt/c protocol. is your llmd backing

>

> you on the protocol as i have heard that the high salt intake can mess

> things up in your body/balance.

>

> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Jeannie

><gemstar727@...<gemstar727%40>>

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I know it sounds gross, but I have been doing the salt/c protocol amongst

>

> > all the other stuff.

> >

> > This morning I found a colony floating in the toilet!!! OMG... Looked

> under

> > a strong magnifying glass I could see all of it.

> >

> > How do I preserve this specimen for my LLMD. Amazing!

> >

> > Thanks ahead of time,

> > Jeannie

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have been told that floaters are normal for everyone and its usually cells

in the eye that have come loose.

I honestly don't know what you are seeing in your stool, but I still suspect

it's a large multi-cell organism and not a bacteria.

[ ] Re: colony found in toilet

I checked that site. Are you saying it looks like the photos on

http://www.lymephotos.com/bb/index.html?

Speaking of, I often see spirochete-shaped floaters in my eye. If these can

be seen with the naked eye in the toilet, can the floaters I see be live (or

dead) spirochetes?

deb

>

> Yes he has a MD after his name. These things look like the photos I have

seen online and in books.

>

> They will be able to tell me. Took a macro photo of it too. The

photographer in me. www.lymephotos.com.

>

> Anyways, no big deal if they aren't. But to me it's something.

>

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[Guest guest]

Really, maybe your right. Guess I'll find out soon enough. Funny how it

happened after 3 months of ABX. Maybe it was the salt/C that made this organism

and a few more decide to take exit.

In any case it's weird!

Jeannie

[ ] Re: colony found in toilet

I checked that site. Are you saying it looks like the photos on

http://www.lymephotos.com/bb/index.html?

Speaking of, I often see spirochete-shaped floaters in my eye. If these can

be seen with the naked eye in the toilet, can the floaters I see be live (or

dead) spirochetes?

deb

>

> Yes he has a MD after his name. These things look like the photos I have

seen online and in books.

>

> They will be able to tell me. Took a macro photo of it too. The

photographer in me. www.lymephotos.com.

>

> Anyways, no big deal if they aren't. But to me it's something.

>

------------------------------------

Buy Healing Lyme: Natural Healing And Prevention of Lyme Borreliosis And Its

Coinfections by Buhner at one of these locations:

http://tinyurl.com/3bgm5d

[Guest guest]

>

> I checked that site. Are you saying it looks like the photos on

http://www.lymephotos.com/bb/index.html?

>

> Speaking of, I often see spirochete-shaped floaters in my eye. If these can

be seen with the naked eye in the toilet, can the floaters I see be live (or

dead) spirochetes?

absolutely impossible.

a Borrelia spirochete is about 0,3 x 20 micrometer in size. Borrelia is about a

thousand times thinner than a strain of human hair (100-200 micrometer

diameter). Even when looking just at the length of the spirochete, 20 micrometer

is just a few times the diameter of a red blood cel. This is very far below what

the naked eye can see.

[Guest guest]

>

>

> I honestly don't know what you are seeing in your stool, but I still suspect

> it's a large multi-cell organism and not a bacteria.

if it has a wormlike appearance it could be parasitic worms. Some of these like

the microfilaria can be spread by ticks. Microfilaria are an order of magnitude

bigger than spirochetes, but still too small to see for the human eye (you can

sometimes see them in bloodsmears under a microscope). Only the adult stages are

big enough to see with the naked eye.

[Guest guest]

Hi

First of all I'm so sorry that you are all that ill, I truly understand. Went

without diagnosis for 16 yrs.

Right now I'm just using sea salt that is coarse that I found a large food

chain. I tried those packets of Vitamin C, didn't like them. So I got some

powdered Sodium Ascorbate it's from NOW through swanson vitamin.

Well, today I had two different ones come out, nothing like yesterdays!! These

were in a cluster, kind of looked like a round ball but it had spirochete

looking legs, many of them. I'm not saying they are. I have read and heard how

small spirochetes are. But whatever these are, they are leaving my body and I'm

feeling better!

I use 3/4 tsp sea salt and the same of the vitamin C. If that upsets my tummy I

add a little baking soda.

I am for sure that I am on the right track. The bottom of my feet are not

hurting today and they should be because it's going to rain soon. My pain is so

bad that I'm on Norco, but today half the dose was enough.

Have a good day,

Jeannie

Re: [ ] Re: colony found in toilet

>

> jeannie,

> could you explain what you do for the salt/c protocol. is

> your llmd backing you on the protocol as i have heard that

> the high salt intake can mess things up in your body/balance.

>

> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Jeannie <gemstar727@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I know it sounds gross, but I have been doing the salt/c protocol

> > amongst all the other stuff.

> >

> > This morning I found a colony floating in the toilet!!!

> OMG... Looked

> > under a strong magnifying glass I could see all of it.

> >

> > How do I preserve this specimen for my LLMD. Amazing!

> >

> > Thanks ahead of time,

> > Jeannie

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I have read and heard how small spirochetes are. But whatever these are, they

are leaving my body and I'm feeling better!

It might help if your doc can find out what it is, maybe some kind of parasitic

worms. If your treatment helps you get rid of the adult form but not of the

earlier stages, the problem might return ...

P.S.: Andrographis works against all kinds of 'snake-like' creatures, from real

snakes (treating snake bites) and parasitic worms to really small 'snakes' like

spirochetes.

[Guest guest]

What is this salt/vitamin c formula? Is it just emergen-c? What kind of salt?

How much and how often is it taken?

Cassano

VT PBiS Coach

802-236-6637

snowgirlvt@...

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[Guest guest]

Jeannie,

What is your feeling so far of Salt/C?

Jay

Re: [ ] Re: colony found in toilet

>

> jeannie,

> could you explain what you do for the salt/c protocol. is

> your llmd backing you on the protocol as i have heard that

> the high salt intake can mess things up in your body/balance.

>

> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Jeannie <gemstar727@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I know it sounds gross, but I have been doing the salt/c protocol

> > amongst all the other stuff.

> >

> > This morning I found a colony floating in the toilet!!!

> OMG... Looked

> > under a strong magnifying glass I could see all of it.

> >

> > How do I preserve this specimen for my LLMD. Amazing!

> >

> > Thanks ahead of time,

> > Jeannie

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jay,

Well from what is happening to me, I believe for me at least - IT'S KILLING

organisms/parasite that have made me sick. My LLMD (a real MD) couldn't believe

what I had brought in. He was really interested in finding out what it was.

For me I am going to do this for a good long time. It's like pouring salt on a

snail, they don't like our bodies with the salt in our bodies so they need to

exit.

I know I have a bunch more because of my inflammation pain. Eggs and all!!! I

will take it until NOTHING comes out.

First time that final things that don't belong in me are coming out!!! That's

huge for me. I know it sounds gross, but really they need to exit my body!!!

I even put my fiance on a very low dose and slowly will amp up according to how

he feels. He doesn't have lyme, but has been to Mexico and he thinks when he

was down there that he ate a lot of pork and it wasn't prepared right. So he

wants to see what it does for him.

I'm so happy things are finally happening!!!! I'm still detoxing, vitamins,

supplements, but definitely won't be giving up on salt/C for a long time!

Thanks for asking

Jeannie

P.S. I submitted two photos am waiting for approval and then you can see for

yourself.

Jeannie,

What is your feeling so far of Salt/C?

[Guest guest]

You can learn more about the salt/Vitamin C protocol on

lymestrategies (go to the files page on

that group for lots of info). It is not simply taking salt and vitamin C but

taking them according to a specific time schedule, ramping up so as not to

experience severe herxes. Also, the protocol calls for SCWDD which stands for

salt, C, water, diet (75% organic veggies) and detox. There are a number of

favored adjuncts (supplements) that are recommended.

deb

p.s. It is not table salt - himalayan salt is preferred and RealSalt is second

on the list.

>

> What is this salt/vitamin c formula? Is it just emergen-c? What kind of salt?

> How much and how often is it taken?

> Cassano

> VT PBiS Coach

> 802-236-6637

> snowgirlvt@...

>

>

> PRIVACY &

[Guest guest]

Jeannie,

Those photo's you posted are of some type of nematode. A friend of mine posted

similar photos on facebook and I have seen photos like this elsewhere too. My

friend is taking an antiparisitic med called ivermectin (among other meds)and it

is killing them. So that means that the salt/c protocol must be capable of

killing nematodes among other things. What's interesting here is the fact that

many people with Lyme disease seem to be growing these little buggers.

As Knotweed said, the LD bacteria are really small. To get a good view a person

would neeed to magnify the bacteria by 1000xs, way more then a household

magnifying glass could magnify.

My friend and I are researching these creatures so if we come up with anything I

will post.

Take Care,

Chris

[Guest guest]

>

>

> My friend and I are researching these creatures so if we come up with anything

I will post.

keep me informed

I'm guessing that the salt in Salt/C is first of all 'flushing' the worms and

maybe not really killing them (or their eggs). So it would be interesting to see

how permanent this cure is, but I agree this could be one of reasons why people

improve on Salt/C (I don't believe this protocol will do anything against

Borrelia).

One can expect 'worm' problems with lymies, because ticks can also spread

certain worm/microfilaria infections. This seems to be an ill-researched subject

(especially the microfilaria, that are a bit between spirochetes and normal

worms in size, you have to use a microscope to see them).

Btw, ivermectin is similar to andrographis in that it targets many worm-like

creatures from small to relavitely big, and also seems to work against the

arthropods themselves. It is based on a natural (bacterial) product.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

You really should join the salt/c group Knot_Weed or read the folder

in my resource cd for it.

There are a lot of testimonials from people where salt/c is working

extremely well for them. I have friends with confirmed Chronic Lyme who have

also seen it work.

Don't be so skeptical, that you overlook a very simple, very cheap protocol

that seems to be helping a lot of people!

My wife was also on it early on and it alleviated the lyme. She stopped

before it was truly in remission as it seemed to be aggravating her

migraines. But she still speaks highly of it and recommends it to people.

www.lyme-resource.com

You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! -

> [ ] Re: colony found in toilet

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > My friend and I are researching these creatures so if we

> come up with anything I will post.

>

> keep me informed

>

> I'm guessing that the salt in Salt/C is first of all

> 'flushing' the worms and maybe not really killing them (or

> their eggs). So it would be interesting to see how permanent

> this cure is, but I agree this could be one of reasons why

> people improve on Salt/C (I don't believe this protocol will

> do anything against Borrelia).

>

> One can expect 'worm' problems with lymies, because ticks can

> also spread certain worm/microfilaria infections. This seems

> to be an ill-researched subject (especially the microfilaria,

> that are a bit between spirochetes and normal worms in size,

> you have to use a microscope to see them).

>

> Btw, ivermectin is similar to andrographis in that it targets

> many worm-like creatures from small to relavitely big, and

> also seems to work against the arthropods themselves. It is

> based on a natural (bacterial) product.

>

>

>