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In a message dated 8/6/2004 3:36:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, poodle@...

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Joy

You have movement after a cervical fusion. It's just limited. I really don't

notice the difference. My first surgery relieved the pain. The next one on a

different level didn't.

Marsha

Okay, I was wondering especially after I looked at one site that had pictures

of the fusion. I know I have to have two at c4-5 and c 6-7.

Joy

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In a message dated 8/6/2004 6:05:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

beacon348@... writes:

I do know I hate the way I feel sometimes and I hurt allot especially when I

try to sleep at night Sandy

Sandy, You know I am the same way. I hate going to bed because when I wake

in the morning I am in even more pain.

Joy

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> In a message dated 8/6/2004 3:36:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,

poodle@a...

> writes:

> Joy

> You have movement after a cervical fusion. It's just limited. I

really don't

> notice the difference. My first surgery relieved the pain. The next

one on a

> different level didn't.

> Marsha

> Okay, I was wondering especially after I looked at one site that

had pictures

> of the fusion. I know I have to have two at c4-5 and c 6-7.

> Joy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My roomate had 4 cervic levels fused to years ago, she has done

great. She has a great range of motion, except for the scar, you

would not notice any change. She was concerned about the range

issue, and she is very pleased with it.

Kris

> In a message dated 8/6/2004 3:36:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,

poodle@a...

> writes:

> Joy

> You have movement after a cervical fusion. It's just limited. I

really don't

> notice the difference. My first surgery relieved the pain. The next

one on a

> different level didn't.

> Marsha

> Okay, I was wondering especially after I looked at one site that

had pictures

> of the fusion. I know I have to have two at c4-5 and c 6-7.

> Joy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I can relate !!!!

> In a message dated 8/6/2004 6:05:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> beacon348@y... writes:

> I do know I hate the way I feel sometimes and I hurt allot

especially when I

> try to sleep at night Sandy

> Sandy, You know I am the same way. I hate going to bed because

when I wake

> in the morning I am in even more pain.

>

> Joy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Has anyone here ever had these spasms? It is driving my crazy trying to figure

out why I look like a junky tweaking. lol. <

I get twitching to my mouth...like when trying to drink from a glass...that

started when my neck started bothering me. Just assumed it was to age, but now

you got me thinking and I will have to mention it to my doctor next time.

Viv in GA

[Guest guest]

Hi Shonda!

25 is a low dose, lowest. I started on 50 and had a TSH of 6.9.

That lowered my TSH to 3.04 in 8 wks but didn't make me feel

better. A normal dose for someone around 130 lbs is 100. Ask the

dr if you can start at a higher dose if you don't have health risks

for heart disease (high bp, old age, high cholestrol, etc).

If you don't feel better on synthroid (synthetic), try armour (made

from pig) and/or cytomel (synthetic).

Get a bunch of books from the library on the subject and read, read!

Good Luck,

>

> Hi!!

> My name is Shonda and I was tested for a thyroid problem

> last week. Well my doc called today and told me my TSH was at

> 8.93,and so he prescribed synthroid 25mcg. I am praying that this

> will help my symptoms!! I look forward to reading all the posts

and

> I am here if anyone wants to chat. God Bless!

>

> Shonda René

[Guest guest]

Good luck!

Amie

New to group

Hi!!

My name is Shonda and I was tested for a thyroid problem

last week. Well my doc called today and told me my TSH was at

8.93,and so he prescribed synthroid 25mcg. I am praying that this

will help my symptoms!! I look forward to reading all the posts and

I am here if anyone wants to chat. God Bless!

Shonda René

[Guest guest]

My mother in-law takes armour now and she LOVES it!! my doc said he

is going to give it a month and retest me to see how well I am doing

on the 25 and then most likely raise it. The more I read the more I

feel I should be taking a stronger dose. I am going to call in the

morning and discuss it with him. Thanks for your info!!

> >

> > Hi!!

> > My name is Shonda and I was tested for a thyroid

problem

> > last week. Well my doc called today and told me my TSH was at

> > 8.93,and so he prescribed synthroid 25mcg. I am praying that

this

> > will help my symptoms!! I look forward to reading all the posts

> and

> > I am here if anyone wants to chat. God Bless!

> >

> > Shonda René

[Guest guest]

i was on levoxyl 25 mg and had so much anxitey nad was zoned nad just so

freaked out felt like i was on drugs.. when i switched to armour.. i just

feel relaxed.. its weird i thought thyroid would make you more hyper ect..

but its not doing that to me.. armour was soo much more easier on my

system.. dunno why.. maybe cuz its natural or something..

Re: New to group

My mother in-law takes armour now and she LOVES it!! my doc said he

is going to give it a month and retest me to see how well I am doing

on the 25 and then most likely raise it. The more I read the more I

feel I should be taking a stronger dose. I am going to call in the

morning and discuss it with him. Thanks for your info!!

> >

> > Hi!!

> > My name is Shonda and I was tested for a thyroid

problem

> > last week. Well my doc called today and told me my TSH was at

> > 8.93,and so he prescribed synthroid 25mcg. I am praying that

this

> > will help my symptoms!! I look forward to reading all the posts

> and

> > I am here if anyone wants to chat. God Bless!

> >

> > Shonda René

[Guest guest]

Where do you live? I live in rural Maine and have sometimes traveled 2-3

hours to go to a good doc, have also treated myself which saved my life. My

test results were " normal " for 30 years after a partial thyroidectomy. Look

at http://www.geocities.com/thyroide for topdocs.

Gracia

>

>

>

> Hello,

> My name is Kim and I have a family history of low thyroid and I

> would really sware that my thyroid levels have been going up and down

> for years. I finally took a test (would not test t3) at a time when I

> was not feeling too rough (appointants are hard to schedule)....the

> doctor's office simply called and said the results were in the normal

> range. I asked for the results and they look questionable to

> me....particularly the tsh......

> Anyway, that was some time ago and recently I had a miscarriage

> that I believe was in part due to dipping thyroid levels (they seemt

> o go up and down quickly like I would get " cold flashes " -anyone

> experience this?).....

> I have read some threads, esp the one about pain and I am amazed

> at how similar my symptoms have been to many of your....the part

> about the teeth aching clinches it! I have had bouts of fatigue that

> I felt as if I had the flu with no other symptoms.......my husband

> thinks I can just " push through it " , but I can not always do that and

> I know what it means to push as I was an athlete for years......

> I already appreciate the learning experience here and I would

> love to know one thing.....

> How do I find a doctor that knows what he/ she is doing when it comes

> to the thyroid? I live pretty rurally so this is even harder to

> do....but I really want to get this right and feel at least a little

> energy again.....

> Or if I can't find one...can I and how do I medicate myself?

> thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!!!

> Sincerely,

> Kim

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You should ignore TSH and get enough of the right medicine, and you might

need iodine. More good info at http://www.thyroid.about.com

Gracia>

Should I be concerned about the goiters or just pay attention to the

> symptoms & tsh levels?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing your story. I absolutely know what it is like to

have to fight to get diagnosed and treated properly. I, too, have

found a great LLMD who has changed my life over the past couple of

years. Symptoms DO return just when you think they are gone, and NEW

and exiting ones appear as well. It can definitely be frustrating,

but who knows it best than all of us! I think it is fabulous to have

others experiences and thoughts to help us all. Take care- Lori

>

>

> Hello,

> I discovered I had lyme a year ago when I went to the er (one of

> several trips) because i had been expereincing numbness in my

limbs

> and face, my heart would start racing for no reason,they did a

lyme

> test and it came back positive.I was givrn the standard 3 weeks of

> antibiotics and that was it.I started having the symptoms again

and

> went to the dr, he said it wasnt the lyme since i had already been

> treated i should be fine and since it's " so rare " where i live(I

> live in springfield,mo.)I have been struggling with my dr to

listen

> to me about the lyme to no avail.After doing my own research i

> discoverd a llmd right in my town!(Dr.Crist).I am glad to find so

> many supportive groups.This site is a blessing.

>

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wrote:

<snip>

>

> The Yeast Cleanse has: Caprylic Acid, Pau D'arco, grapefruit seed

> extract, tea tree oil, GP Garlic, Licorice Root, calcium, vitamin c,

> magnesium > and zinc. My probiotics is Primadophilus, I'm also

taking Flax oil,> enzymes, and I try to have ginger tea daily.

Dear ,

Welcome to our group. The Yeast Cleanse has many ingredients so it

makes it difficult for you to know what you may react to. I suggest

simple products so you will know. I don't recommend cleanses because

you need to build up your immunes system and they can interfere with

whatever nutrients you are able to absorb.

It appears as if you are trying to do too many things at once. This

can overwhelm your body, bypass it's healing mechanisms and drive you

crazy trying to figure out what is wrong. It would be better to

start on the diet first, get it down pat, and then do the next step.

You will also have better success, because the diet is the most

important aspect of getting well.

Coconut oil is a powerful antifungal and very important for proper

functioning of the entire body. You can add it right away with the

diet.

I don't recommend Flax Oil for several reasons: 1) it goes rancid

very easily, 2) it is not a good form of omega-3 because it has to be

converted by the body to a form it can use. The best form of omega-3

is fish oils (taken in the summer) or cod liver oil (taken

in the winter) doesn't have to be converted. Many people with

candida are unable to make the conversion necessary by Flax Oil.

This morning I had 1/3 of> Bee's strained lemon drink (olive oil,

lemon and water) with breakfast of> eggs and brown rice hot cereal,

and it made me nauseas. Is this normal,> and will it continue to make

one's stomach sick?

==>There is no olive oil in the lemon drink I recommend; it's only

1/4 teaspoon of a good ocean sea salt (like Celtic) and the juice of

1/2 of a lemon. You possibly felt sick because of either the olive

oil being rancid, or the brown rice which is very high in carbs, and

acts just like sugar in the body. I do not recommend any grains,

including brown rice, at the beginning.

Also, has this helped> many others to gain weight? I'm afraid I won't

want to eat if my stomach> does not feel better soon.

==>My stomach was my weakest spot when I had candida too, and I also

loss weight. My stomach reacted terribly - at one point I was losing

3 lbs. a day and could only eat 9 foods for a few months. I had no

choice because anything else came back up.

You probably need to be on a very strict diet for awhile, esp. no

grains, beans, nuts, soy, sugars (including fruits), etc. as outlined

in my main article. There is a " Food List " in the files too, as well

as " The Candida Diet in a Nutshell " . They'll all help you understand

why your diet should be so strict, and help you to shop for the right

foods. The diet I recommend is not like most out there.

Weight is the least of your problems at the moment. You could try

going on the 5 day diet which is pureed foods and enemas, which

really helps with stomach problems too - see " Digestive Problems " in

the files.

> Bee, for this group.

==>You are so welcome. Education is the key my friend. Please do

keep us posted, and ask any questions, after you've read up on the

diet, etc.

The best in health,

Bee

[Guest guest]

Bee,

I am sorry, I thought that recipe was from you on the other group. I

think it was just too

strong from the lemon and burned my stomach. I did read your diet, and

didn't realize the brown

rice was for later use. I guess that means no quinoa and buckwheat.

Also, I tried to find coconut oil yesterday, but everyone was out of it.

I will have to order it.

Do you like a certain brand?

Thanks again,

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:24:22 -0000 " Bee Wilder "

<beeisbuzzing2003@...> writes:

wrote:

<snip>

>

> The Yeast Cleanse has: Caprylic Acid, Pau D'arco, grapefruit seed

> extract, tea tree oil, GP Garlic, Licorice Root, calcium, vitamin c,

> magnesium > and zinc. My probiotics is Primadophilus, I'm also

taking Flax oil,> enzymes, and I try to have ginger tea daily.

Dear ,

Welcome to our group. The Yeast Cleanse has many ingredients so it

makes it difficult for you to know what you may react to. I suggest

simple products so you will know. I don't recommend cleanses because

you need to build up your immunes system and they can interfere with

whatever nutrients you are able to absorb.

It appears as if you are trying to do too many things at once. This

can overwhelm your body, bypass it's healing mechanisms and drive you

crazy trying to figure out what is wrong. It would be better to

start on the diet first, get it down pat, and then do the next step.

You will also have better success, because the diet is the most

important aspect of getting well.

Coconut oil is a powerful antifungal and very important for proper

functioning of the entire body. You can add it right away with the

diet.

I don't recommend Flax Oil for several reasons: 1) it goes rancid

very easily, 2) it is not a good form of omega-3 because it has to be

converted by the body to a form it can use. The best form of omega-3

is fish oils (taken in the summer) or cod liver oil (taken

in the winter) doesn't have to be converted. Many people with

candida are unable to make the conversion necessary by Flax Oil.

This morning I had 1/3 of> Bee's strained lemon drink (olive oil,

lemon and water) with breakfast of> eggs and brown rice hot cereal,

and it made me nauseas. Is this normal,> and will it continue to make

one's stomach sick?

==>There is no olive oil in the lemon drink I recommend; it's only

1/4 teaspoon of a good ocean sea salt (like Celtic) and the juice of

1/2 of a lemon. You possibly felt sick because of either the olive

oil being rancid, or the brown rice which is very high in carbs, and

acts just like sugar in the body. I do not recommend any grains,

including brown rice, at the beginning.

Also, has this helped> many others to gain weight? I'm afraid I won't

want to eat if my stomach> does not feel better soon.

==>My stomach was my weakest spot when I had candida too, and I also

loss weight. My stomach reacted terribly - at one point I was losing

3 lbs. a day and could only eat 9 foods for a few months. I had no

choice because anything else came back up.

You probably need to be on a very strict diet for awhile, esp. no

grains, beans, nuts, soy, sugars (including fruits), etc. as outlined

in my main article. There is a " Food List " in the files too, as well

as " The Candida Diet in a Nutshell " . They'll all help you understand

why your diet should be so strict, and help you to shop for the right

foods. The diet I recommend is not like most out there.

Weight is the least of your problems at the moment. You could try

going on the 5 day diet which is pureed foods and enemas, which

really helps with stomach problems too - see " Digestive Problems " in

the files.

> Bee, for this group.

==>You are so welcome. Education is the key my friend. Please do

keep us posted, and ask any questions, after you've read up on the

diet, etc.

The best in health,

Bee

[Guest guest]

I Donna,

This is a great group of people. Good for a laugh or two and very informative.

Donna <dagnewnum56@...> wrote:

Hi

My name is Donna. I'm 57, and I was dx with hypo about 3 yrs ago. I

take synthroid. I also have type-2 diabetes. I have been lurking for

awhile, gleaning alot of good information. Hope to keep learning and

make some new friends.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Welcome aboard Donna,

Good Health,

Val

Re: New to group

>

> I Donna,

>

> This is a great group of people. Good for a laugh or two and very

informative.

>

> Donna <dagnewnum56@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi

> My name is Donna. I'm 57, and I was dx with hypo about 3 yrs ago. I

> take synthroid. I also have type-2 diabetes. I have been lurking for

> awhile, gleaning alot of good information. Hope to keep learning and

> make some new friends.

>

> Donna

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Carolyn,

You wrote:

> ... everytime I turned right in my car I would hit the curb, even when I made

an effort not to. ...

Welcome to the list.

My wife hits the curb frequently also, and she is not hypoT.

You can't go too much higher than 200 mcg, so something else may be

wrong. Other conditions can cause many of the same symptoms.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Thanks Chuck -

For the record I have stopped hitting curbs....for the most part:o)

Tell your wife I understand though.

I've been wondering if I could have some underlying disease that is slowly

killing off my thyroid or something. I intend to visit my Dr soon but I've also

been wondering if I should see a more specilized dr. Do you know if there is a

type of dr that deals more with these issues?

Thanks,

Carolyn

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Carolyn,

You wrote:

> I've been wondering if I could have some underlying disease that is slowly

>killing off my thyroid or something. ...

The autoimmune condition that causes just this pattern is called

Hashimoto's disease (or syndrome). There is a lot about this in our

archives and on the web. Another possibility is a toxin, such as

fluoride or soy, which attacks both the gland and conversion of T4 to

T3. Do you have a lot of either in your diet?

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Carolyn,

I forgot to mention, the type of specialist that is supposed to deal

with this is an Endocrinologist, with a focus on the endocrine glands.

However, many on this list have reported difficulties getting effective

treatment from such specialists. I have been well treated, so far, by my

GP, but I do think it wise to shop carefully before making a change.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Congratulations on your New Juicer, This is very exciting.

(One less customer for the pharmaceutical industry to Kill).

There are 2 excellent books that I recommend by Dr. N. W. D.

Sc. for juicing (about 10.00 each).

1) The Vegetarian Guide to Diet & Salad (ISBN 0-89019-034-8).

2) Fresh Vegetable and Fruit Juices (ISBN 0-89019-033-X).

Happy trails to a healthier life style.

Ken

Learn how you can feel great too!!!!!!!!!

www.kenluanne.awarenesslife.com

>

>

> Hi, I'm new to the group. My husband just bought a new juice

machine.

> I was wanting to know if anyone has done a juice detox. If so,

what is

> the recipe? I've seen so many that I can buy, I'd like to make one

of

> my own. If there is anyone out there that can help me out, I'd

> appreciate it, along with the routine to follow. Thanks! Kim

[Guest guest]

Chuck -

I've been wondering about hashimotos disease. I've read a little online about

it and wondered if I could have that. When I was diagnosed 2 years ago my

number was 125.8 or something close to that if I remember. I started on 100 mcg

a day and worked up to 175 mcg a day. Then I got pregnant and had to bump it up

to 200. Shortly after I had the baby I was getting severe headaches every

afternoon and the dr determined I was getting too much so she put me back on

175. I was fine for a while but I went back in last December feeling low and

asked to be checked again. I think it was 8.25 or something so I got put back

on 200 mcg a day. Now I still feel low so I'm going to make an appointment in

the next week or so. I think I will talk to her about hashimotos and whatever

else could be going on. Maybe I'll ask her if an endocrinologist would be a

good idea too. I like my doctor really well, shes great. But I would go just

about anywhere if I could feel better. I've got 3 kiddos to keep up with.

How long have you had hypoT? You seem to know a lot about it. I don't know

anyone in my circle of friends who has it. My mother takes the medicine but her

circumstances are different. She had nodules on her thyroid and they killed it

off and put her on the meds. Shes had the same dose for years. This up and

down stuff makes me crazy.

Sorry I'm so wordy. I get carried away when I'm writing.

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[Guest guest]

Carolyn,

The main wrinkle you get from Hashi's is that it makes your condition a

moving target until all trace of thyroid function is gone. Mine went in

one swell foop, so I never had the joy of being hyperT on my way to some

semblance of balance.

You wrote:

>

> ... How long have you had hypoT? ...

Working on my fourth year, but both my mother and sister have had it for

much longer. It is relatively common. I seem to recall an estimate of

about 10% of the population will eventually have it. However, it also

seems to be much more widespread now and growing. It is not at all clear

that that is an effect of increased reporting. We might well be having

an epidemic, especially in developed countries.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Hi Carolyn,

You are not alone. This is exactly how I started out. Thought

the stress of a new baby was what made me so tired. I kept burning

dinner, no matter how I tried I always left something out, put

something in, or just forgot about it in the oven.

Once your other hormones settle down, you should stabilize a bit.

I took synthroid for 11 years with no problems. A few ups and

downs, but no major swings. Recently I went hyper and have

radically cut my medicine. I am told this is rare, so don't be too

concerned. The point is be aware of what your body is doing so you

can recognize any big and long-standing swings. And, don't let a

doctor tell you it's all in your head when it happens. Too many

doctor's out there either aren't educated on this disorder, or just

don't care. So you did the right thing joing the group. This

topic was what motiviated me to join a chat as well.

Sherry

>

>

> Hi - my name is Carolyn. I typically don't join groups and talk

to to people I don't know so this is kind of new to me. Excuse me

if I'm a little green.

>

> I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism about 2 years ago. I started

having symptoms right after the birth of my second child. But I

didn't recognize them as anything other than a post partum induced

funky stage. It was 7 months later that I started having serious

issues with weakness in my limbs and being very slow feeling. I

finally bit the bullet and made an appointment with my doc after I

realized that everytime I turned right in my car I would hit the

curb, even when I made an effort not to. I just knew I had a brain

tumor or something. Good thing it was just hypo. Anyhow, since

then I've been on lots of different doses of Levathroid and can't

ever stay in one place for too long. It didn't help that I have

since had a 3rd child which complicates getting my dosage right.

Now I take 200 mcg a day but I'm not so sure its enough. I'm due

for an appointment to check that out.

>

> I searched out your group so maybe I can learn more about this

disease that effects my life more than I ever realized it would.

And I welcome any comments, advise or just support anyone can offer.

>

> Thanks,

> Carolyn

>

>

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