HBOT

[Guest guest]

Wayne, Are you out of your mind?

Re: HBOT

> Evening Dr. Saul and the list,

>

>

> >But I though that you posted previously that there were HBOT chambers

sold

> >for $40,000. Not yours, but other ones.

>

> No doubt others have thought of the question I have.

>

> Surely a super craftsman with determination could build a home system from

> junk he can find here and there to result if a fully functional HBOT

system.

>

> I have an eight by 10 walk in cooler that is virtually air tight. It

could

> be sealed with any material imaginable.

>

> Getting the door to be pressure tight would be the only problem. Maybe we

> could swipe the hatch off a submarine or similar.

>

> I am into control systems, at one time manufactured medical products,

> designed manifolds and valves. I could certainly build a fully computer

> controlled system for the HBOT.

>

> Tell me I am crazy.... if you think so. <grin>

>

> Wayne

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Wayne, Are you out of your mind?

>

> Re: HBOT

>

>

> > Evening Dr. Saul and the list,

> >

> >

> > >But I though that you posted previously that there were HBOT

chambers

> sold

> > >for $40,000. Not yours, but other ones.

> >

> > No doubt others have thought of the question I have.

> >

> > Surely a super craftsman with determination could build a home

system from

> > junk he can find here and there to result if a fully functional

HBOT

> system.

> >

> > I have an eight by 10 walk in cooler that is virtually air

tight. It

> could

> > be sealed with any material imaginable.

> >

> > Getting the door to be pressure tight would be the only problem.

Maybe we

> > could swipe the hatch off a submarine or similar.

> >

> > I am into control systems, at one time manufactured medical

products,

> > designed manifolds and valves. I could certainly build a fully

computer

> > controlled system for the HBOT.

> >

> > Tell me I am crazy.... if you think so. <grin>

> >

> > Wayne

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> Wayne, Are you out of your mind?

>

> Re: HBOT

>

>

> > Evening Dr. Saul and the list,

> >

> >

> > >But I though that you posted previously that there were HBOT

chambers

> sold

> > >for $40,000. Not yours, but other ones.

> >

> > No doubt others have thought of the question I have.

> >

> > Surely a super craftsman with determination could build a home

system from

> > junk he can find here and there to result if a fully functional

HBOT

> system.

> >

> > I have an eight by 10 walk in cooler that is virtually air

tight. It

> could

> > be sealed with any material imaginable.

> >

> > Getting the door to be pressure tight would be the only problem.

Maybe we

> > could swipe the hatch off a submarine or similar.

> >

> > I am into control systems, at one time manufactured medical

products,

> > designed manifolds and valves. I could certainly build a fully

computer

> > controlled system for the HBOT.

> >

> > Tell me I am crazy.... if you think so. <grin>

> >

> > Wayne

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear natural,

If there is no nitrogen in the system, then there should be no bends,

because it is nitrogen that causes the problem, as it comes out of solution

with the depressurization.

But, the HBOT chambers always bring the pressure down slowly.

will be able to answer this.

I still think the pool idea is a lot simpler and cheaper, and harder to

screw up. And if something goes wrong, you can just surface in a few

seconds.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

Re: HBOT

> >

> >

> > > Evening Dr. Saul and the list,

> > >

> > >

> > > >But I though that you posted previously that there were HBOT

> chambers

> > sold

> > > >for $40,000. Not yours, but other ones.

> > >

> > > No doubt others have thought of the question I have.

> > >

> > > Surely a super craftsman with determination could build a home

> system from

> > > junk he can find here and there to result if a fully functional

> HBOT

> > system.

> > >

> > > I have an eight by 10 walk in cooler that is virtually air

> tight. It

> > could

> > > be sealed with any material imaginable.

> > >

> > > Getting the door to be pressure tight would be the only problem.

> Maybe we

> > > could swipe the hatch off a submarine or similar.

> > >

> > > I am into control systems, at one time manufactured medical

> products,

> > > designed manifolds and valves. I could certainly build a fully

> computer

> > > controlled system for the HBOT.

> > >

> > > Tell me I am crazy.... if you think so. <grin>

> > >

> > > Wayne

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Thank you for the information. I wish I had access to someone with your

willingness to help people without charging them a fortune. Unfortunately, I'm

all the way across the continent from you. Please excuse my American

slang--yes, " a pop " means per application. I was charged $350 for each IV ozone

treatment, plus another $100 for HBOT. However, my ears couldn't handle the

HBOT so I only tried that twice.

Peggy

>>Maybe those persons giving the application of I.V. ozone are going or

working for the money. We are a non-profit organization, please visit:

www.cancer-alternatives.com Thank you.

M.D.

P.S. " a pop " mean per application? Our costs per application is .20 (twenty

cents) IT IS TRUE!>>

[Guest guest]

Tim or Peggy, I have you would like to talk about IV o3, I would like to

hear from you, and share last nights experience wih you, and maybe

compare notes.

I'm just outside of DC in land.

[Guest guest]

I've e-mailed you privately so we can correspond on this if you like. I'm way

outside of D.C. in southern land, Calvert.

Peggy

>>Tim or Peggy, I have you would like to talk about IV o3, I would like to

hear from you, and share last nights experience wih you, and maybe

compare notes.

I'm just outside of DC in land.>>

[Guest guest]

Dear Saul,

Do you know of any way to enhance the oxygen level in a room. My

brother-in-law, is very ill capable of utilizing about 30% of his lung

capacity as he comes home from the hospital in Ft. Myers, Fla. My sister has

been told to contact Hospice as it is anticipated his need for oxygen will

exceed the small amount he receives through his plastic tube to the nostrils.

He has had emphysema for a number of years. Vitamin O didn't help

I don't know of any remedy but thought you may have a recommendation.

Manson

[Guest guest]

Dear Saul,

Do you know of any way to enhance the oxygen level in a room. My

brother-in-law, is very ill capable of utilizing about 30% of his lung

capacity as he comes home from the hospital in Ft. Myers, Fla. My sister has

been told to contact Hospice as it is anticipated his need for oxygen will

exceed the small amount he receives through his plastic tube to the nostrils.

He has had emphysema for a number of years. Vitamin O didn't help

I don't know of any remedy but thought you may have a recommendation.

Manson

[Guest guest]

Dear Saul,

My last post to you is answered in your book THE OWNERS MANUAL FOR THE HUMAN

BODY page 108, but i suspect my bro-in-law is too weak and fragile to

undertake the cleanses, but you do have a comprehensive recommendation for

Emphysema. I will advise him of the vitamins and supplements you have listed

on page 108. even if he can't undertake the cleanses recommended.

Manson

[Guest guest]

Dear Saul,

My last post to you is answered in your book THE OWNERS MANUAL FOR THE HUMAN

BODY page 108, but i suspect my bro-in-law is too weak and fragile to

undertake the cleanses, but you do have a comprehensive recommendation for

Emphysema. I will advise him of the vitamins and supplements you have listed

on page 108. even if he can't undertake the cleanses recommended.

Manson

[Guest guest]

I would think that an aranizer air purifer would be great for

him. Ozonated water if you have access to an ozone generator.

Erma

At 05:09 PM 6/30/01 -0400, you wrote:

>Dear Saul,

>

>Do you know of any way to enhance the oxygen level in a room. My

>brother-in-law, is very ill capable of utilizing about 30% of his lung

>capacity as he comes home from the hospital in Ft. Myers, Fla. My sister has

>been told to contact Hospice as it is anticipated his need for oxygen will

>exceed the small amount he receives through his plastic tube to the nostrils.

>He has had emphysema for a number of years. Vitamin O didn't help

>I don't know of any remedy but thought you may have a recommendation.

>Manson

>

>OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

>other alternative self-help subjects.

[Guest guest]

I would think that an aranizer air purifer would be great for

him. Ozonated water if you have access to an ozone generator.

Erma

At 05:09 PM 6/30/01 -0400, you wrote:

>Dear Saul,

>

>Do you know of any way to enhance the oxygen level in a room. My

>brother-in-law, is very ill capable of utilizing about 30% of his lung

>capacity as he comes home from the hospital in Ft. Myers, Fla. My sister has

>been told to contact Hospice as it is anticipated his need for oxygen will

>exceed the small amount he receives through his plastic tube to the nostrils.

>He has had emphysema for a number of years. Vitamin O didn't help

>I don't know of any remedy but thought you may have a recommendation.

>Manson

>

>OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

>other alternative self-help subjects.

[Guest guest]

Hello Dr , can you post your address again, so that I can email it

to several friends?

I've been to Mexico, and seen a a large percentage of the population is

in dire straits, even without a severe illness.

If we can each give a small amount, it might add up and help some of

the less fortunate patients.

[Guest guest]

Hello Dr , can you post your address again, so that I can email it

to several friends?

I've been to Mexico, and seen a a large percentage of the population is

in dire straits, even without a severe illness.

If we can each give a small amount, it might add up and help some of

the less fortunate patients.

[Guest guest]

Of course, my friend, and thanks a lot for your concern! God bless you!

1205 Eady Ave.

Calexico CA 92231-3517

USA

www.cancer-alternatives.com

RE: HBOT

Hello Dr , can you post your address again, so that I can email it

to several friends?

I've been to Mexico, and seen a a large percentage of the population is

in dire straits, even without a severe illness.

If we can each give a small amount, it might add up and help some of

the less fortunate patients.

OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

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[Guest guest]

Of course, my friend, and thanks a lot for your concern! God bless you!

1205 Eady Ave.

Calexico CA 92231-3517

USA

www.cancer-alternatives.com

RE: HBOT

Hello Dr , can you post your address again, so that I can email it

to several friends?

I've been to Mexico, and seen a a large percentage of the population is

in dire straits, even without a severe illness.

If we can each give a small amount, it might add up and help some of

the less fortunate patients.

OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are

for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing

information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your

own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to

take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to

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[Guest guest]

Sheila,

Dr. Nicholson's site is at www.immunmed.com

The human spirit is stronger than anything that can

happen to it.

C.

[Guest guest]

,

I was on my way out the door yesterday when I got your email. I am a

subscriber to several hyperbaric listservs and recently started a list to

help parents access HBOT for their children through Medicaid.

I encourage you to subscribe. As a member, you can go to the member

website and download about 15 or 20 files to help you " make your case " with

your state Medicaid agency.

mailto:medicaid-subscribe

medicaid/files/

The files are in pdf (portable document format), which means they can be

open and read by any computer that has Adobe Acrobat reader. If you don't

have Acrobat, it's a free download from http://www.www.acrobat.com.

>Hi ,

> I have a number of questions about the HBO therapy, and you seem to

>be the most knowledgeable person on the list.

I'm not a physician, only a dad. Whatever I've learned I have learned

primarily from the various lists.

There's an excellent paper in the files section that carries the title " How

HBOT works " .

The main question is,

>what are any negative side effects, whether short- or long term? Can it

>harm my daughter?

The most recommended pressure is 1.5 ATA which is the equivalent to about

16 feet underwater.

One very minor inonvenience is barotrauma, which is a temporary pressure on

the ears (I wouldn't call it a side effect since it's temporary). She needs

to be able to clear her ears. I don't know much about life in Alaska but my

understanding is that folks regularly fly planes to get around the state.

If so, you've felt the differences in air pressure when you ascend from

take-off and as you descend. The same phenomena occurs in a hyperbaric

chamber.

Even if your daughter has difficulty clearing her ears, if the descending

time is slow enough--perhaps 15 minutes--then she still should be able to

clear her ears from just swallowing.

If she still has trouble, you can always put tubes in her ears.

> I have learned we have them here in town, and they have just

>recently gotten Medicaid approval,

It would be *extremely* helpful if you could fax me documentation of this.

I am trying to get as much documentation from all the states that are

reimbursing hyperbaric oxygen for brain-injured children because sharing

this with the states who are not currently reimbursing brings them up to a

comfort level that makes it easier to make a decision to go ahead and pay

for it.

If you can get something in writing from Alaska Medicaid that is on their

letterhead or has their logo or some other insignia and fax it to me it

would be great. If you fax it to me at 509/275-1618, it will come to me as

an email attachment. I can then convert this to a pdf file and post it on

medicaid/files/

The efax number 509/275-1618 actually goes to Washington state, so maybe

that wouldn't be too much of a long distance charge. If you can't fax any

documentation, please mail it to me and I'll convert it later.

so I am now starting to find a doctor

>to refer Kaitlyn for the therapy. Unfortunately here in Anchorage it's

>$600 a session, so without Medicaid, it won't be happening. I'm looking

>forward to reading your last attachment.

> Please feel free to e-mail me privately or through the group.

> Thanks,

> , Queen Kaitlyn's mom

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

" I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form

of tyranny over the mind of man. " -- Jefferson, an early advocate of

Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy.

----------------------------

Freels

2948 Windfield Circle

Tucker, GA 30084-6714

USA

770/491-6776 (phone and fax)

509/275-1618 (efax, sends fax as email attachment)

mailto:dfreels@...

mailto:medicaid-subscribe

[Guest guest]

Sue, there is a well run new facility in Santa Fe

called Simply Hyperbarics, Dr. Ken Stoller is the

medical director. Their phone number is 505-820-6234.

Hope this helps,

Sunny

--- Sue Dropp <suedropp@...> wrote:

> Are there any Hbot clinics in New Mexico??

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/23/2004 9:34:44 PM Central Standard Time,

jenbooks13@... writes:

> Insurance, as far a I know, won't cover it for indications like

> fibromyalgia, CFIDS, lyme, etc. I have a mild chamber in my home.

> Where do you live?

>

Wow, thats great! I live in the Chicago suburbs. Oh pleeeese tell me

you're my next door neighbor? lol : )

[Guest guest]

Insurance, as far a I know, won't cover it for indications like

fibromyalgia, CFIDS, lyme, etc. I have a mild chamber in my home.

Where do you live?

> Hi all- I was just curious as to how any of you are able to

access the

> HBOT?? In my neck of the woods, its completely off limits to

anyone but

> burn/smoke inhalation victims and severe cases of Diabetes with

necrosis. I have

> tried unsuccessfully for years to get a doctor to let me use the

Hyperbaric

> chamber.

> Its so hard to fathom that there is an HBOT center 5 minutes

away from

> where I live, but I cant use it. Its just heartbreaking to me.

How do you get

> your insurance to cover it? What diagnostic code are they using?

ANY info on

> this subject would be very appreciated. Thank you-

>

> Goodwulfe

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Let's please NOT backchannel. Then one person gets useful information

that an entire list of hundreds of people could get. What is the

point of asking people to backchannel? I don't get it. The whole

reason I wrote the article with Byron White was to get information

out that could help people we don't know and would never meet. IMHO

it is selfish (tho I'm sure not intended that way) to ask for

backchannelling--it means that people who need help won't get the

answers. This way, the information has a chance to get out to lots of

people.

We have a group, lyme and mild hyperbaric, moderated, which

anybody on here can request to join. It's not super active but it is

a good list and has great archives, imo.

[Guest guest]

Peggy wrote;

I would love to hear more personal stories about the home HBOT chambers FROM

PEOPLE WHO HAVE TRIED THEM, especially any with long-term severe CFIDS....

YES!!! That is who I would like to hear from re: most any treatment here. That

is mainly who I want as my information providers here.

And this is an oppoortune moment for me to say how grateful I am and how blessed

I am to have been having the opportunity to get this help here. I don't know

where I would be if not for all the brave, generous people who share their lives

here in such a meaningful and useful way.

Thanks, everyone. " Keep coming back-even when you get well.)

Adrienne

[Guest guest]

Well, I can add a little to what I wrote in the article.

For example, in January I flew out to Tucson. Flying, especially a

stopover, is not good for lyme (hypoxia, lower pressure). I

developed what I call a " lymegraine " . I hadn't had one since late

AUgust, again while travelling. My home chamber has basically rid me

of them and if I ever start to get one, I get in the chamber for 20-

30 minutes.

So there I was in Tucson, on an assignment at a horse ranch, and

totally screwed up by a lymegraine. So I called Lance (who posted

here) and said, please, find me someone in Tucson with a chamber so I

can get in for half an hour and get rid of my lymegraine. And within

an hour I had two names. I went over to a doctor's (she has one in

her home for self treatment of m.s.) and she kindly put me in it for

half an hour, and my lymegraine slowly receded and within a few hours

was a mere whisper of a headache.

I was very grateful.

I use my chamber as a kind of adjunctive boost. If I know I have to

do something, like travel, or go to a business dinner, I make sure to

get in. Otherwise I use it about every 4-5 days. But there are

times I am more stressed and need it more often. It has not cured my

lyme but it has greatly helped my quality of life.

I know that on our lyme and hyperbaric list, that " noodlydoo " got one

for his lyme, he also does antibiotics, and he feels its very

helpful. You can also read the list moderator's postings, early on,

about how it helped him.