Colostrum

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,

I think it is OK to take Collostum. If it causes problems you can

discontiue. I just read that it's effectiveness is increased if you take it

in both powder and pill form at the same time. If you can't find it in

powder form, just break open one capsule and consume the powder (under

tongue sublingually) and swallow another capsule. Steve B.

colostrum

> If most cfs patients are supposed to stay away from dairy is it ok to

> take colostrum?

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[Guest guest]

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Collostrum is not Immunepro but has some of the same ingredients. Steve B.

colostrum

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thanks steve. Is colostrum the same as Immunopro? Do

you no of any protein powder that i can take for

energy? The only problem is my stomach gets bloated

easy and Im supposed to stay away from dairy so not

sure if any of the protein pwders can cause problems.

If you have any suggestions let me know thanks

--- " R. Bullock " <bullocks@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> I think it is OK to take Collostum. If it causes

> problems you can

> discontiue. I just read that it's effectiveness is

> increased if you take it

> in both powder and pill form at the same time. If

> you can't find it in

> powder form, just break open one capsule and consume

> the powder (under

> tongue sublingually) and swallow another capsule.

> Steve B.

> colostrum

>

>

> > If most cfs patients are supposed to stay away

> from dairy is it ok to

> > take colostrum?

> >

> >

> >

> > This list is intended for patients to share

> personal experiences with each

> other, not to give medical advice. If you are

> interested in any treatment

> discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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Hi ,

Colostrum is not the same a immunepro although they both come from

milk and both are supposed to help your immune system. Just wanted to

say that oils have much more energy in them than protein. You do need

to eat protein, but if you want an energy boost, try to increase your

fat intake. Examples would be adding extra oils like olive or sesame

to cooked things or flax oil to salads. There are a lot of bad things

being said about trans fats found in margerine espeically according

to researchers like Enig.

Matt

[Guest guest]

Matt would omega 3 and 6 help with energy?

--- Matt Hoppe <hoppe@...> wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> Colostrum is not the same a immunepro although they

> both come from

> milk and both are supposed to help your immune

> system. Just wanted to

> say that oils have much more energy in them than

> protein. You do need

> to eat protein, but if you want an energy boost, try

> to increase your

> fat intake. Examples would be adding extra oils like

> olive or sesame

> to cooked things or flax oil to salads. There are a

> lot of bad things

> being said about trans fats found in margerine

> espeically according

> to researchers like Enig.

>

> Matt

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal

> experiences with each other, not to give medical

> advice. If you are interested in any treatment

> discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

> .

> ssed here, please consult your doctor.

>

> .

>

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[Guest guest]

,

Indirectly, eating a proper ratio of omega three to omega six, should

give you more energy over time, by helping you body to work better.

However, I am not aware, nor have I experienced that omega 3 or 6

directly give you an energy boost more than any other fat. However,

fat contains more energy than protein or carbohydrate per gram, and

while it will not give a buz like sugar will, in my experience fat

does give me a pickup without the letdown afterward. Most protein

like meat or chicken or fish, already contain fat, and will give you

energy, but a protein shake often have very little fat. My point is

that if you are trying to limit carbohydrates, adding some good oils

to you diet will give you more energy than protein alone. As for

omega six and three you want to eat roughly twice as much six as

three according to what I have read, but most of the vegetable fats

we all eat contain plenty of omega six, so most of us get enough of

that but come up short on three. That is why so many people recommend

supplementing fish oil or flax seed oil, or eating fish like salmon

or makarel. I do all three. I eat canned salmon in water, I take fish

oil and I put flax oil and salt instead of dressing on salad, which I

eat a couple times a day. Flax oil is unstable meaning it can go off

quite quickly, so it is almost always sold in a dark glass bottle. I

eat it fast enough I don't need to refrigerate it.

Matt

> > Hi ,

> >

> > Colostrum is not the same a immunepro although they

> > both come from

> > milk and both are supposed to help your immune

> > system. Just wanted to

> > say that oils have much more energy in them than

> > protein. You do need

> > to eat protein, but if you want an energy boost, try

> > to increase your

> > fat intake. Examples would be adding extra oils like

> > olive or sesame

> > to cooked things or flax oil to salads. There are a

> > lot of bad things

> > being said about trans fats found in margerine

> > espeically according

> > to researchers like Enig.

> >

> > Matt

> >

> >

> > This list is intended for patients to share personal

> > experiences with each other, not to give medical

> > advice. If you are interested in any treatment

> > discussed here, please consult your doctor.

> >

> > .

> > ssed here, please consult your doctor.

> >

> > .

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Matt which brand do you buy I asked they guy at the

health food store he said to get barleans I think

something like that lol but is was expensive for a

little bottle. Hoe much do I need a day of this?

what else can you put this on besides salad? Have you

ever heard of salt tablets? thanks michelle

--- Matt Hoppe <hoppe@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Indirectly, eating a proper ratio of omega three to

> omega six, should

> give you more energy over time, by helping you body

> to work better.

> However, I am not aware, nor have I experienced that

> omega 3 or 6

> directly give you an energy boost more than any

> other fat. However,

> fat contains more energy than protein or

> carbohydrate per gram, and

> while it will not give a buz like sugar will, in my

> experience fat

> does give me a pickup without the letdown afterward.

> Most protein

> like meat or chicken or fish, already contain fat,

> and will give you

> energy, but a protein shake often have very little

> fat. My point is

> that if you are trying to limit carbohydrates,

> adding some good oils

> to you diet will give you more energy than protein

> alone. As for

> omega six and three you want to eat roughly twice as

> much six as

> three according to what I have read, but most of the

> vegetable fats

> we all eat contain plenty of omega six, so most of

> us get enough of

> that but come up short on three. That is why so many

> people recommend

> supplementing fish oil or flax seed oil, or eating

> fish like salmon

> or makarel. I do all three. I eat canned salmon in

> water, I take fish

> oil and I put flax oil and salt instead of dressing

> on salad, which I

> eat a couple times a day. Flax oil is unstable

> meaning it can go off

> quite quickly, so it is almost always sold in a dark

> glass bottle. I

> eat it fast enough I don't need to refrigerate it.

>

> Matt

>

>

> > > Hi ,

> > >

> > > Colostrum is not the same a immunepro although

> they

> > > both come from

> > > milk and both are supposed to help your immune

> > > system. Just wanted to

> > > say that oils have much more energy in them than

> > > protein. You do need

> > > to eat protein, but if you want an energy boost,

> try

> > > to increase your

> > > fat intake. Examples would be adding extra oils

> like

> > > olive or sesame

> > > to cooked things or flax oil to salads. There

> are a

> > > lot of bad things

> > > being said about trans fats found in margerine

> > > espeically according

> > > to researchers like Enig.

> > >

> > > Matt

> > >

> > >

> > > This list is intended for patients to share

> personal

> > > experiences with each other, not to give medical

> > > advice. If you are interested in any treatment

> > > discussed here, please consult your doctor.

> > >

> > > .

> > > ssed here, please consult your doctor.

> > >

> > > .

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

<< ordered my colostrum from NZ, the web site is below. The product came

quickly after ordering. I bought a 1 lb jar and it cost $37(amer).

Terri L. >>

Terri, when you add the $16 shipping charge that gets a bit pricy.

Are you from there or what made you order from New Zealand?

Christel

[Guest guest]

And, $37 for 16 oz is a lot more

colostrum than 60 grams (2 ounces = 57 Gr) for $22 -- as long as both

can accomplish the same result.

Jim, you certainly did your homework. the only drawback I can see as far as

cost goes is the $16 shipping fee.

Christel

[Guest guest]

WHen I was taking recombinant human growth hormone injections I was able

to feel the difference. So, I expect one should be able to feel the

difference with colostrum, if it has all the IGF-1 claimed. (IGF-1 is

what we test for when taking the injections.) And, I would think one

could feel the difference between a high and low quality product.

So, as I see it, from the two sources that have been suggested, the

colostrum from Immunetree is only from the first milking, and sells by

the ounce, while the New Zealand colostrum is from the first 5 days

milking and sells by the pound. I can see an advantage from either point

of view.

I am going to ignore the hype that US colostrum isn't as good because

our air, water, etc. are more polluted, because I live in that

environment. I would certainly feel different if I lived in a cleaner

country, but I don't.

Personally, I want to try both. WHen it comes to manufacturer claims I

like to find out if I can feel the difference. If I can't then I don't

want to spend the extra money. And, $37 for 16 oz is a lot more

colostrum than 60 grams (2 ounces = 57 Gr) for $22 -- as long as both

can accomplish the same result.

The ImmuneTree colostrum says it is only from the 1st milking, and that

each successive milking loses 30% of the goodies. Bigpond says theirs is

from the 1st five days of milking (5th milking is 3 days), but they also

say it is lactose free, so maybe it isn't mostly transitional milk.

I'm still studying the subject. Anybody else have any ideas they have

gleaned from their personal experience, as opposed to company hype, that

tell us anything about the merits of one colostrum over another? Or

better, has anyone tried different brands and discovered anything?

jim

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[Guest guest]

TL wrote:

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Christel,

I'm from North Carolina. Before I ordered colostrum I did a little research.

NZ is pretty much a natually organic place. There are some places in the US

that sell colostrum but honestlythat claim organic, but our air is poluted,

ground water run off from neighboring farms where pesticides are used, etc.

and what about what the cows are fed? Even is cows are given no hormones,

antibiotics, etc. we are all aware of the feed issues. Anyhow, NZ does not

suffer from those issues and I feel its a safer product, so I am willing to

pay alittle more for Colostrum. I looked for my shipping fees and they were

$7.88.

_____________________

Hi all, I really don't want to discourage anyone from buying from New Zealand.

I think their product is great. I just want to say that Immune Trees colostrum

is independantly lad tested and shown to be free of all hormones, antibiotics

and pesticides. The lab has a list of all Immune Trees retailers and they pick

one of their choosing and request a bottle from them and test it. That way

immune tree cannot influence the test at all, Every new batch is tested and

they are certified organic. Their cows are free range and hay fed.

So, I am not taking anything away from New Zealands product because it is good

stuff. Just want people to know that they can get good clean product in the

US.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Christel,

The $16 shipping fee is irrelevant, considering it is for a pound. That

is still $53 for a pound vs. 25$ for 60 grams/120 caps at my HFS, also

from New Zealand.

jim

Christelti@... wrote:

>

> And, $37 for 16 oz is a lot more

> colostrum than 60 grams (2 ounces = 57 Gr) for $22 -- as long as both

> can accomplish the same result.

>

> Jim, you certainly did your homework. the only drawback I can see as far as

> cost goes is the $16 shipping fee.

> Christel

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[Guest guest]

SIs anybody nervous about animal products because of the Mad Cow Disease and

all that?

TL wrote:

-

Christel,

I'm from North Carolina. Before I ordered colostrum I did a little research.

NZ is pretty much a natually organic place. There are some places in the US

that sell colostrum but honestlythat claim organic, but our air is poluted,

ground water run off from neighboring farms where pesticides are used, etc.

and what about what the cows are fed? Even is cows are given no hormones,

antibiotics, etc. we are all aware of the feed issues. Anyhow, NZ does not

suffer from those issues and I feel its a safer product, so I am willing to

pay alittle more for Colostrum. I looked for my shipping fees and they were

$7.88.

_____________________

Hi all, I really don't want to discourage anyone from buying from New

Zealand. I think their product is great. I just want to say that Immune

Trees colostrum is independantly lad tested and shown to be free of all

hormones, antibiotics and pesticides. The lab has a list of all Immune

Trees retailers and they pick one of their choosing and request a bottle from

them and test it. That way immune tree cannot influence the test at all,

Every new batch is tested and they are certified organic. Their cows are

free range and hay fed.

So, I am not taking anything away from New Zealands product because it is

good stuff. Just want people to know that they can get good clean product

in the US.

Donna

[Guest guest]

I, for one, am not the least worried about BSE.

jim

ELSOL102@... wrote:

>

> SIs anybody nervous about animal products because of the Mad Cow Disease and

> all that?

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Jim,

I have heard that the New Zealand Colostrum was superior to U.S., but have

seen no factual info to back it up. From my milking days on the farm in

Oklahoma we considered the Colostrum cleared within 1 week and made sure the

calf got the Colostrum during that period, but this was word of mouth one

dairyman to another type info.

Bottom line Jim I am connived Colostrum does have immunity value and take it

daily, trying always to purchase the New Zealand brand.

[Guest guest]

Jim,

I'm new to the list. You have probably covered this in depth already,

but.....how did you come to the clarity you expressed about BSE?

Thanks,

Phyllis

I, for one, am not the least worried about BSE.

jim

[Guest guest]

I heard that some cows in Texas USA were quarantined recently, and also

that some sheep in Vermont had a close version of the disease. I also heard

that the US is taking steps to ban blood donations of people who lived in

England, France or Ireland in the recent past...The disease started in

Britain, but now it is in Ireland, Switzerland, Germany, and now I heard from

a friend in Brazil that some people died there. So it seems to be spreading.

There is no blood test for it yet but they think it may be in the blood

supply. I also read that some hunters in Wyoming died from a similar disease

from eating deer and elk. I have to say it rather gives me the creeps.

I also heard on the news this morning that there is the first case of Ebola

virus in North America...a woman in Canada who I believe had traveled from

Africa...There are some scarey diseases out there if you ask me.

you said:

Mad cow disease comes from feed that has ground up sich sheep in it. And

that is supposed to be NOt happening in the US but who knows. What I do know

is that, that is a concern with feedlot cows and they are a minority in the

US. And as far as colostrum goes, Immune Trees and I think everyone else's

are range and hay fed. So it is not supposed to be a problem. I am not an

expert tho. And don't know if the experts are all that expert either. Sadly.

Donna

Subject: Re: Fw: colostrum

[Guest guest]

Framk,

I am new to colostrum, but not to understanding what I read, or

marketing hype. The only real difference I see is price & preference, as

far as I can see. Immunetree makes some good points, but is expensive.

NZ colostrum seems to use successive milkings, but is cheaper and

doesn't heat their producyt at all.

If the cheaper product does or doesn't work as well, then that is where

you pays your money and takes your chances! ;-) I chose to try several

brands & make up my own mind.

jim

FAMANSON@... wrote:

>

> Dear Jim,

> I have heard that the New Zealand Colostrum was superior to U.S., but have

> seen no factual info to back it up. From my milking days on the farm in

> Oklahoma we considered the Colostrum cleared within 1 week and made sure the

> calf got the Colostrum during that period, but this was word of mouth one

> dairyman to another type info.

>

> Bottom line Jim I am connived Colostrum does have immunity value and take it

> daily, trying always to purchase the New Zealand brand.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Christel,

If you know it is an off topic subject, then don't post it! As it

happens, this is fully on topic.

Try amazon.com, ebay.com or 1-800-HERB-DOC, Dr. Schulze's company.

jim

Christelti@... wrote:

>

> I searched high and low for the book >> Curing with Cayenne<< and am unable

> to find it. I know this is an OT subject. But if anyone can tell me where to

> find this book, no tapes, please mail me privately as to not take up the

> groups time.

> Thank you and I hope to hear from someone.

> Christel

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[Guest guest]

Thank you Jim but no luck on any of them.

Christel

[Guest guest]

Hi Jim,

I am not even remotely worried about it. I was just trying to explain why

other's shouldn't be either. It is such a remote possibility. And I am with

you. Fear draws what you fear to you. I have noticed that people who fear

snakes and spiders, for instance, see more snakes and spiders in one year than

most people see in their life time. That is because you really do draw toward

you what you fear. My Bible says, " Perfect love casts out fear. " So I hang out

with God and enjoy His perfect love and find that fear is not an issue for me.

Thanks,

Donna

-----Subject: Re: Fw: colostrum

Donna,

So, buy US colostrum. But, New Zealand is not likely to be an importer

of English animal meal. More likely they export it themselves, since

they are a country with a lot of livestock. Selling feed in the US with

animal parts was banned when the first cases of BSE happened several

years ago.

The cows in Texas that have been quarantined have absolutely nothing

wrong with them! They are being quarantined ONLY because they

accidentally got some feed that had animal parts -- NOT contaminated

with ANY disease! Animals were fed animal pasts as long as I can

remember until a few years ago. There was no BSE. The US exports animal

meal. We don't import it from England or Europe.

And, if you want to worry about BSE, what about the fact they put animal

parts in dog & cat food? They could pass it to you! If you don't have

pets you could get it from a friend who does. Where does the worrying

logically stop. I think it stops until and unless there is an outbreak

ALREADY here!

When I was I child, I learned all I needed to know about fear from the

movie The Wizard of Oz. We can sing " Lions & Tigers & Bears, Oh My! " in

a closet, but that doesn't put us in danger.

There is no credible reason to think we are at any real present risk of

BSE in the US! One's odds of getting BSE are close to those of being hit

on the head with a meteor! Definitely more than being carjacked, flying

in a plane, driving in a car or taking a shower! Worry about something

real! ;-)

jim

Donna wrote:

>

> Mad cow disease comes from feed that has ground up sich sheep in it.

And that is supposed to be NOt happening in the US but who knows. What I do

know is that, that is a concern with feedlot cows and they are a minority in the

US. And as far as colostrum goes, Immune Trees and I think everyone else's are

range and hay fed. So it is not supposed to be a problem. I am not an expert

tho. And don't know if the experts are all that expert either. Sadly.

>

> Donna

>

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>

> Mad cow disease comes from feed that has ground up sich sheep

in it. And that is supposed to be NOt happening in the US but who

knows. >

In the February 2001 issue of Field and Stream, there is an alarming

report

called " Mad Deer Disease? " , and recounts the stories of several men

who have

died after eating their venison catches--and the deer had this mad cow

disease. It is very scary--and infecting wild heards of elk and deer

in the

Western US. So, is it infecting our cows? I don't know, but it is

already

a fact that it is infecting our wildlife.....

Patty

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty, It is my understanding that the disease that wild deer get is

different but looks similar as with sheep and scrapie.

I don't think the deer are catching it from cows. Don't know how they get

it but it is a seperate thing from what I have heard.

Donna

______________

In the February 2001 issue of Field and Stream, there is an alarming

report

called " Mad Deer Disease? " , and recounts the stories of several men

who have

died after eating their venison catches--and the deer had this mad cow

disease. It is very scary--and infecting wild heards of elk and deer

in the

Western US. So, is it infecting our cows? I don't know, but it is

already

a fact that it is infecting our wildlife.....

Patty

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[Guest guest]

Deer in Europe are fed the same winter food as cows. That means they are fed

dead cow. And that might give them BSE infection. That's why in Germany the

government has also declared deer meat a possible health hazard.

Doedens

Donna wrote:

> Hi Patty, It is my understanding that the disease that wild deer get is

different but looks similar as with sheep and scrapie.

> I don't think the deer are catching it from cows. Don't know how they get

it but it is a seperate thing from what I have heard.

> Donna

> ______________

>

> In the February 2001 issue of Field and Stream, there is an alarming

> report

> called " Mad Deer Disease? " , and recounts the stories of several men

> who have

> died after eating their venison catches--and the deer had this mad cow

> disease. It is very scary--and infecting wild heards of elk and deer

> in the

> Western US. So, is it infecting our cows? I don't know, but it is

> already

> a fact that it is infecting our wildlife.....

> Patty

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Donna,

Found this mail from you.

Well I always tent to get excited on new findings sometimes, will have to try

some bottled colostrum products frist I inmagine. But furthermore your email has

brought me to the idea to ask the healthfootshops here if they now an organic

farmer who sells it.

Thanks for all the info. Do you know any other products (except pro-biotics)

that heal leaky gut /

Regards

Doedens

Donna wrote:

> Subject: Re: colostrum

>

>

> Jim wrote:

>

> So, as I see it, from the two sources that have been suggested, the

> colostrum from Immunetree is only from the first milking, and sells by

> the ounce, while the New Zealand colostrum is from the first 5 days

> milking and sells by the pound. I can see an advantage from either point

> of view.

>

> Hi Jim and all. I called Immune Tree yesterday and asked if they have

bulk amounts available and they don't normally sell it that way but said they

would give me it in Kilo amounts, (about 2 lbs 2 oz) . My price would be $130.

Theirs would be $172.

> I don't know what that equates to in a savings because I haven't

calculated it. Compared to the 2.5 oz bulk which is 71 grams at $22 . , , ,

, , Just calculated it. That would add up to $299.20 if bought in the small

bottles, so it is a huge savings.

> If anyone is interested, I could get this for you, but I don't have it in

stock. I have never bought it this way. When I called the company my rep had

to go and ask the owner if he would sell in larger amounts and she came back

with a yes. But she also said it isn't labled or packaged for sale so it would

just be in a clear bag. Nothing pretty. and no directions for use. But 1/2 tsp

equals two 500 mg caps. Most people take the equivalent of 2-6 caps a day,

unless, as I said they are fighting something really nasty like MS or a severe

sports injury or something.

>

> By the way, good colostrum has a nutty, buttery flavor. If it is not

fresh or has been heated it will taste sour.

> Recommended dosage for most people would be 1/2 to 1 1/2 tsp a day. If

you were fighting something serious like MS or aids, then you could take as much

as 3 tsp a day. Most people would not tolerate that much tho. It raises your

seratonin levels so high that you would just want to sleep all the time.

> The New Zealand stuff can be taken in larger doses because it isn't pure.

> And That's all folks,

> Donna

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