Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 The product is ImmunoSTART The O on the end was converted from HTML symbol for Registered. I did not realize this group converted everything to plain text and that symbol does not convert ImmunoSTART DL Bullock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 The product is ImmunoSTART The O on the end was converted from HTML symbol for Registered. I did not realize this group converted everything to plain text and that symbol does not convert ImmunoSTART DL Bullock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 I agree Caer, If it ain't broke and you know for a fact that it will never BE broke, then don't fix it. There is one problem with starting with basic nutrition and that is you cannot get basic nutrition in this country today. Centuries ago before green harvesting of food and chemical fertilizers, and pesticides, you would be able to get all the glyconutrients you needed for normal life in the food you ate. That is no longer possible. The nutrition is simply not in our food. Even the AMA has declared we all must take nutritional supplements now. Why would I waste my time educating people about the nutrients I take if you could go to the grocery store and get what you need? The only glyconutrients we get in the grocery store is galactose from dairy products and glucose from everything else. We get WAY too much glucose today which is much of the trouble with our exploding diabetes rate. I will also be the first to tell you that glyconutrients are not the cure-all for everything. They cure nothing they only give the body what it needs to function properly. Many of us have never had a properly functioning body. I know I never did. I Thought I did but I learned better when I began my glyco plan. Glyconutrients do not work 100% of the time. However, from the people I have watched in my experience, my opinion is a mid 90's percentile is possibly more correct. The medical studies claim 80-90% reversal of many conditions. Everyone receives a better life from it whether they think they were " cured " or not of their ailment. If you don't educate yourself about glycobiology, your quality of life will suffer whatever condition you find yourself now. If you think you are now in perfect health, just take glyconutrients for three months and after that lets just see how healthy you thought you were before you started. You will be amazed at the improvement even if you were totally healthy before. D.L. Bullock Re: colostrum And what are we saving our lives from again? I forget. Not that I'm against nutrition, but I certainly don't approve of selling the " AIDS scare " to someone just to get them to buy ozone or glyconutrients or snake oil, or whatever. In my opinion... if it ain't broke, there's no need to fix it. Nor to spend tons of money on things you don't need. It really does seem like a " sell " to me. I might point out that " AIDS " is irrelevant to the lives of most people here. Why should they spend what little money they have on things they don't necessarily need? If there is a problem, then nutrition is probably the best way to start changing it. At the same time, Glyconutrients aren't the cure-all for everything. Anyone who tells you different? Is probably selling something. Better and cheaper probably to start with basic nutrition and work your way around from there. But only if there's a REAL problem. Caer RE: colostrum SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM The only time you post is when you see a chance to make some money. --- " D.L. Bullock " <d.l.bullock@...> wrote: > Yes, Yes and again YES! I could not agree with you > more. In the olden > days, they used to burn milk maids at the stake as > witches because they > never got sick and they never seemed to age like the > rest of us do. They > were drinking colostrum > __________________________________ - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail. Read AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 I agree Caer, If it ain't broke and you know for a fact that it will never BE broke, then don't fix it. There is one problem with starting with basic nutrition and that is you cannot get basic nutrition in this country today. Centuries ago before green harvesting of food and chemical fertilizers, and pesticides, you would be able to get all the glyconutrients you needed for normal life in the food you ate. That is no longer possible. The nutrition is simply not in our food. Even the AMA has declared we all must take nutritional supplements now. Why would I waste my time educating people about the nutrients I take if you could go to the grocery store and get what you need? The only glyconutrients we get in the grocery store is galactose from dairy products and glucose from everything else. We get WAY too much glucose today which is much of the trouble with our exploding diabetes rate. I will also be the first to tell you that glyconutrients are not the cure-all for everything. They cure nothing they only give the body what it needs to function properly. Many of us have never had a properly functioning body. I know I never did. I Thought I did but I learned better when I began my glyco plan. Glyconutrients do not work 100% of the time. However, from the people I have watched in my experience, my opinion is a mid 90's percentile is possibly more correct. The medical studies claim 80-90% reversal of many conditions. Everyone receives a better life from it whether they think they were " cured " or not of their ailment. If you don't educate yourself about glycobiology, your quality of life will suffer whatever condition you find yourself now. If you think you are now in perfect health, just take glyconutrients for three months and after that lets just see how healthy you thought you were before you started. You will be amazed at the improvement even if you were totally healthy before. D.L. Bullock Re: colostrum And what are we saving our lives from again? I forget. Not that I'm against nutrition, but I certainly don't approve of selling the " AIDS scare " to someone just to get them to buy ozone or glyconutrients or snake oil, or whatever. In my opinion... if it ain't broke, there's no need to fix it. Nor to spend tons of money on things you don't need. It really does seem like a " sell " to me. I might point out that " AIDS " is irrelevant to the lives of most people here. Why should they spend what little money they have on things they don't necessarily need? If there is a problem, then nutrition is probably the best way to start changing it. At the same time, Glyconutrients aren't the cure-all for everything. Anyone who tells you different? Is probably selling something. Better and cheaper probably to start with basic nutrition and work your way around from there. But only if there's a REAL problem. Caer RE: colostrum SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM The only time you post is when you see a chance to make some money. --- " D.L. Bullock " <d.l.bullock@...> wrote: > Yes, Yes and again YES! I could not agree with you > more. In the olden > days, they used to burn milk maids at the stake as > witches because they > never got sick and they never seemed to age like the > rest of us do. They > were drinking colostrum > __________________________________ - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail. Read AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Trish wrote: > > Hi Bee - One other question. My naturopathic doctor has suggested I take colostrum to help with the candida. I was not breastfed and therefore she said that the colostrum would help any good bacteria I put in my body to take hold (by helping my immune system.) She said I would only need to take one bottle and that would be it for life. I am thinking that this is contrary to your diet, Bee since it is dairy. Also, don't see it anywhere in the files as far as supplements. > But I am wondering if you have ever heard of this and what your thoughts are? ==>Colostrum is the first milk of cows, so no it would not be okay for candida sufferers. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 What about human colostrum? ==>Colostrum is the first milk of cows, so no it would not be okay for candida sufferers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 > ==>Colostrum is the first milk of cows, so no it would not be okay for > candida sufferers. It's the first milk of humans too. I didn't know if she meant that she was going to take human colostrum or bovine. Seems to me that bovine colostrum wouldn't help anything because we're not baby cows. in IN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 In a message dated 06/09/2006 16:27:44 GMT Daylight Time, msce25w@... writes: Can anyone advise on dosages for Colostrum? Is it safe for kids on GFCF? It says casein free, but does contain milk. Has anyone used this succesfully? >>>Kirkman brand never caused us any problems and did Sam good when we were GFCF and casein was the biggie for reactions (this was BHNI - before Houstons) Depends on the brand whether there is casein in there. I loved the stuff but couldn;t afford much esle was very expensive, not looked lately Mandi in Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 thanks. What do you mean before Houston? In Autism-Biomedical- Europe , Mum231ASD@... wrote: > > > In a message dated 06/09/2006 16:27:44 GMT Daylight Time, > msce25w@... writes: > > Can anyone advise on dosages for Colostrum? Is it safe for kids on > GFCF? It says casein free, but does contain milk. Has anyone used this > succesfully? > > > > >>>Kirkman brand never caused us any problems and did Sam good when we were > GFCF and casein was the biggie for reactions (this was BHNI - before > Houstons) Depends on the brand whether there is casein in there. I loved the stuff > but couldn;t afford much esle was very expensive, not looked lately > > Mandi in Poole > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 thanks. What do you mean before Houston? In Autism-Biomedical- Europe , Mum231ASD@... wrote: > > > In a message dated 06/09/2006 16:27:44 GMT Daylight Time, > msce25w@... writes: > > Can anyone advise on dosages for Colostrum? Is it safe for kids on > GFCF? It says casein free, but does contain milk. Has anyone used this > succesfully? > > > > >>>Kirkman brand never caused us any problems and did Sam good when we were > GFCF and casein was the biggie for reactions (this was BHNI - before > Houstons) Depends on the brand whether there is casein in there. I loved the stuff > but couldn;t afford much esle was very expensive, not looked lately > > Mandi in Poole > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 In a message dated 21/09/2006 16:55:17 GMT Daylight Time, msce25w@... writes: thanks. What do you mean before Houston? >>>We did the GFCF diet before HNI enzymes came out - we came off the diet the day they arrived and never looked back - his first normal poop after 10 days. So Casein infractions were obvious on the diet - no problem after enzymes. I think I was meaning about Kirkman Colostrum Gold - not being a problem, my mind is much, I hope this makes sense LOL. Not all colostrum products are equal. I have used Kirkman and another one I will try to find link - both worked well, in fact I shoudl order soem more of the capsules ones - much more afforable than Kirkman and no worries about Sam practising his 'pouring' skills with a very expensive bottle of Kirkmans This is link to capsule ones http://heavymetaltherapy.com/colostrum.php Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 In a message dated 22/09/2006 11:38:16 GMT Daylight Time, tltbaku@... writes: Will you carry the colostrum capsules on MandiMart? >>>I'm thinking about it - there is just so much stuff and I am keeping new items for various practitioners who want their clients to get timely deliveries of stuff, I have to be very careful of cash flow - I need to sit down and have a proper think after Growing Minds course. I like to kep the stuff I use though so this one is very likely! Does Yasko mention any particular brand of Lactoferrin? Sam is low iron on Ferritin Panel Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Mandi, Will you carry the colostrum capsules on MandiMart? Do you think you will ever carry lactoferrin? Yasko says that lactoferrin plus clostrum is a " poor man's Immune Factor, " and the IMFs are so incredibly expensive. I know that they have specific transfer factors that are extracted from the colostrum, so they are areally targeted, but I'd like to find something that Lulu can take regularly -- she's such a magnet for bacteria with her genetics and her iron-overload history at the orphanage. Hugs from across the channel, Theresa > > > In a message dated 21/09/2006 16:55:17 GMT Daylight Time, > msce25w@... writes: > > thanks. What do you mean before Houston? > > > >>>We did the GFCF diet before HNI enzymes came out - we came off the diet > the day they arrived and never looked back - his first normal poop after 10 > days. So Casein infractions were obvious on the diet - no problem after enzymes. > > I think I was meaning about Kirkman Colostrum Gold - not being a problem, my > mind is much, I hope this makes sense LOL. Not all colostrum products are > equal. I have used Kirkman and another one I will try to find link - both worked > well, in fact I shoudl order soem more of the capsules ones - much more > afforable than Kirkman and no worries about Sam practising his 'pouring' skills > with a very expensive bottle of Kirkmans This is link to capsule ones > > _http://heavymetaltherapy.com/colostrum.php_ > (http://heavymetaltherapy.com/colostrum.php) > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Thanks, doll. I will find out what brand of lactoferrin she uses. Her's is definitely GFCF etc. Did you see my recent post on AA about lactoferrin raising serum iron levels/hemoglobin in pregnant women and also being used to treat iron deficient anemia and diarrhea in infants and children globally? I have always known that lactoferrin helps to reduce high iron , but I understand now that what it does as an iron binding protein is to take the iron away from the bacteria and from free iron pools and make it more available to the body for use. Taking it away from free iron pools also makes it act as a sort of antioxidant, because elevated free iron pools (like you get in iron overload) are what lead to ROS activity. Lactoferrin's ability to take the iron away from the bacteria is what makes it such a good anti-microbial. So it is helpful in redistrbuting iron to the right places -- good for both high and low iron. You might try the lactoferrin and see how that goes. If there is a heavy bacteria load, the bacteria may be eating up all the iron. I know that Lulu is a magnet for bacteria, and her hemoglobin/hematocrit have been low all her life, iron was overloaded and never helped, and her urinary iron levels are <dl -- not s pec of iron shows up. Ha! Hugs, Thereesa > > > In a message dated 22/09/2006 11:38:16 GMT Daylight Time, tltbaku@... > writes: > > Will you carry the colostrum capsules on MandiMart? > > > > >>>I'm thinking about it - there is just so much stuff and I am keeping new > items for various practitioners who want their clients to get timely > deliveries of stuff, I have to be very careful of cash flow - I need to sit down and > have a proper think after Growing Minds course. I like to kep the stuff I use > though so this one is very likely! > > Does Yasko mention any particular brand of Lactoferrin? Sam is low iron on > Ferritin Panel > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 In a message dated 22/09/2006 12:26:31 GMT Daylight Time, tltbaku@... writes: Did you see my recent post on AA about lactoferrin raising serum iron levels/hemoglobin in pregnant women and also being used to treat iron deficient anemia and diarrhea in infants and children globally? >>>Not quite there yet - things have been pretty hectic with the conference organisation, I am still trying to digest your posts on YE list I'll get there, at least the genomics testing has been submitted - hoping I might get the results for Christmas - having the results will make me highly motivated to learn Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 > > > Hi everyone! > > Does anyone know the amount of colostrum to give a 2 year old for > allergies and colds? And the frequency? > > I will be getting some soon, and I'd like to know how to administer > it. > > Also, how long will it keep in the fridge? > > Thanks, Tonya Hersh > Tonya I can not profess to know but was told to start with very small portions but that is for an adult.I was advised to consume only an ounce or two at a time for the first several days. Then based on your reaction you can slowly increase the amount. There can be assumed some principles though from human consumption with new born children. A new mother first lactates small amounts of colostrum, so a fraction of an ounce would seem reasonable. From Wikipedia you can find some hints that would lead to more accurate information.An experienced midwife would likely be a good source of information.[Note this article lacks citations] [use information only as a starting point to verify credibility] -------------------------------------------------------------------- Under the influence of the hormones prolactin and oxytocin, women produce milk after childbirth to feed the baby. The initial milk produced is often referred to as colostrum, which is high in the immunoglobulin IgA, which coats the gastrointestinal tract. This helps to protect the newborn until its own immune system is functioning properly along with creating a mild laxative effect, expelling meconium and helping to prevent the build up of bilirubin (a contributory factor in jaundice). There are many reasons a mother may not produce enough breast milk. Some of the most common are: improper latch, not nursing or pumping enough to meet supply, certain medications, birth control, illness, dehydration, or, rarely, a physical inability to produce. Lack of supply can be addressed by nursing or/and pumping more frequently.[citation needed] The more the mother nurses her baby, or pumps, the more milk is produced.[citation needed] It is very helpful to nurse on demand - to nurse when the baby wants to nurse rather than on a schedule. If pumping; it is helpful to have an electric high grade pump so that all of the milk ducts are stimulated. Some mothers try to increase their milk supply in other ways - by taking the herb fenugreek, used for hundreds of years to increase supply ( " Mother's Milk " teas contain fenugreek as well as other supply-increasing herbs); there are also prescription medications that can be used, such as Domperidone (off-label use) and Reglan.[citation needed] Increasers of milk supply are known as galactagogues. ---------------------------------------------------------------- All mammal species produce milk, but the composition of milk for each species varies widely and other kinds of milk are often very different from human breast milk. As a rule, the milk of mammals that nurse frequently (including human babies) is less rich, or more watery, than the milk of mammals whose young nurse less often. ------------------------------------------------------------ Whole cow's milk does not contain sufficient vitamin E, iron, or essential fatty acids, which can make infants fed on cow's milk anemic. Whole cow's milk also contains excessive amounts of protein, sodium, and potassium which may put a strain on an infant's immature kidneys. In addition, the proteins and fats in whole cow's milk are more difficult for an infant to digest and absorb than the ones in breast milk.[4] Evaporated milk may be easier to digest due to the processing of the protein but is still nutritionally inadequate. A significant minority of infants are allergic to one or more of the constituents of cow's milk, most often the high amounts of lactose (milk sugars) and agglutinin. These problems can also affect infant formulas derived from cow's milk. ------------------------------------------------------------- Goat's milk does not contain agglutinin, which means that the fat globules in goat's milk do not cluster together like they do in cow's milk, which makes goat's milk easier for an infant to digest. Goat's milk also does not contain many of the allergens found in cow's milk. However, like cow's milk, goat's milk is also unsuitable for infants as it also does not have appropriate concentrations of electrolytes and can cause intestinal irritation and anemia. ------------------------------------------------------------- Human milk is noticeably thinner and sweeter than cow milk. Left in a cup, the cream will rise and form a thin layer **************************************************************** This information is not medical advise but intended only to help guide you to ask the best questions you can with a bit of understanding of the issues and the knowledge required to seek specific advise from experienced individuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 > > > Hi everyone! > > Does anyone know the amount of colostrum to give a 2 year old for > allergies and colds? And the frequency? > > I will be getting some soon, and I'd like to know how to administer > it. > > Also, how long will it keep in the fridge? > > Thanks, Tonya Hersh > Tonya I can not profess to know but was told to start with very small portions but that is for an adult.I was advised to consume only an ounce or two at a time for the first several days. Then based on your reaction you can slowly increase the amount. There can be assumed some principles though from human consumption with new born children. A new mother first lactates small amounts of colostrum, so a fraction of an ounce would seem reasonable. From Wikipedia you can find some hints that would lead to more accurate information.An experienced midwife would likely be a good source of information.[Note this article lacks citations] [use information only as a starting point to verify credibility] -------------------------------------------------------------------- Under the influence of the hormones prolactin and oxytocin, women produce milk after childbirth to feed the baby. The initial milk produced is often referred to as colostrum, which is high in the immunoglobulin IgA, which coats the gastrointestinal tract. This helps to protect the newborn until its own immune system is functioning properly along with creating a mild laxative effect, expelling meconium and helping to prevent the build up of bilirubin (a contributory factor in jaundice). There are many reasons a mother may not produce enough breast milk. Some of the most common are: improper latch, not nursing or pumping enough to meet supply, certain medications, birth control, illness, dehydration, or, rarely, a physical inability to produce. Lack of supply can be addressed by nursing or/and pumping more frequently.[citation needed] The more the mother nurses her baby, or pumps, the more milk is produced.[citation needed] It is very helpful to nurse on demand - to nurse when the baby wants to nurse rather than on a schedule. If pumping; it is helpful to have an electric high grade pump so that all of the milk ducts are stimulated. Some mothers try to increase their milk supply in other ways - by taking the herb fenugreek, used for hundreds of years to increase supply ( " Mother's Milk " teas contain fenugreek as well as other supply-increasing herbs); there are also prescription medications that can be used, such as Domperidone (off-label use) and Reglan.[citation needed] Increasers of milk supply are known as galactagogues. ---------------------------------------------------------------- All mammal species produce milk, but the composition of milk for each species varies widely and other kinds of milk are often very different from human breast milk. As a rule, the milk of mammals that nurse frequently (including human babies) is less rich, or more watery, than the milk of mammals whose young nurse less often. ------------------------------------------------------------ Whole cow's milk does not contain sufficient vitamin E, iron, or essential fatty acids, which can make infants fed on cow's milk anemic. Whole cow's milk also contains excessive amounts of protein, sodium, and potassium which may put a strain on an infant's immature kidneys. In addition, the proteins and fats in whole cow's milk are more difficult for an infant to digest and absorb than the ones in breast milk.[4] Evaporated milk may be easier to digest due to the processing of the protein but is still nutritionally inadequate. A significant minority of infants are allergic to one or more of the constituents of cow's milk, most often the high amounts of lactose (milk sugars) and agglutinin. These problems can also affect infant formulas derived from cow's milk. ------------------------------------------------------------- Goat's milk does not contain agglutinin, which means that the fat globules in goat's milk do not cluster together like they do in cow's milk, which makes goat's milk easier for an infant to digest. Goat's milk also does not contain many of the allergens found in cow's milk. However, like cow's milk, goat's milk is also unsuitable for infants as it also does not have appropriate concentrations of electrolytes and can cause intestinal irritation and anemia. ------------------------------------------------------------- Human milk is noticeably thinner and sweeter than cow milk. Left in a cup, the cream will rise and form a thin layer **************************************************************** This information is not medical advise but intended only to help guide you to ask the best questions you can with a bit of understanding of the issues and the knowledge required to seek specific advise from experienced individuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 > > > Hi everyone! > > Does anyone know the amount of colostrum to give a 2 year old for > allergies and colds? And the frequency? > > I will be getting some soon, and I'd like to know how to administer > it. > > Also, how long will it keep in the fridge? > > Thanks, Tonya Hersh > Tonya I can not profess to know but was told to start with very small portions but that is for an adult.I was advised to consume only an ounce or two at a time for the first several days. Then based on your reaction you can slowly increase the amount. There can be assumed some principles though from human consumption with new born children. A new mother first lactates small amounts of colostrum, so a fraction of an ounce would seem reasonable. From Wikipedia you can find some hints that would lead to more accurate information.An experienced midwife would likely be a good source of information.[Note this article lacks citations] [use information only as a starting point to verify credibility] -------------------------------------------------------------------- Under the influence of the hormones prolactin and oxytocin, women produce milk after childbirth to feed the baby. The initial milk produced is often referred to as colostrum, which is high in the immunoglobulin IgA, which coats the gastrointestinal tract. This helps to protect the newborn until its own immune system is functioning properly along with creating a mild laxative effect, expelling meconium and helping to prevent the build up of bilirubin (a contributory factor in jaundice). There are many reasons a mother may not produce enough breast milk. Some of the most common are: improper latch, not nursing or pumping enough to meet supply, certain medications, birth control, illness, dehydration, or, rarely, a physical inability to produce. Lack of supply can be addressed by nursing or/and pumping more frequently.[citation needed] The more the mother nurses her baby, or pumps, the more milk is produced.[citation needed] It is very helpful to nurse on demand - to nurse when the baby wants to nurse rather than on a schedule. If pumping; it is helpful to have an electric high grade pump so that all of the milk ducts are stimulated. Some mothers try to increase their milk supply in other ways - by taking the herb fenugreek, used for hundreds of years to increase supply ( " Mother's Milk " teas contain fenugreek as well as other supply-increasing herbs); there are also prescription medications that can be used, such as Domperidone (off-label use) and Reglan.[citation needed] Increasers of milk supply are known as galactagogues. ---------------------------------------------------------------- All mammal species produce milk, but the composition of milk for each species varies widely and other kinds of milk are often very different from human breast milk. As a rule, the milk of mammals that nurse frequently (including human babies) is less rich, or more watery, than the milk of mammals whose young nurse less often. ------------------------------------------------------------ Whole cow's milk does not contain sufficient vitamin E, iron, or essential fatty acids, which can make infants fed on cow's milk anemic. Whole cow's milk also contains excessive amounts of protein, sodium, and potassium which may put a strain on an infant's immature kidneys. In addition, the proteins and fats in whole cow's milk are more difficult for an infant to digest and absorb than the ones in breast milk.[4] Evaporated milk may be easier to digest due to the processing of the protein but is still nutritionally inadequate. A significant minority of infants are allergic to one or more of the constituents of cow's milk, most often the high amounts of lactose (milk sugars) and agglutinin. These problems can also affect infant formulas derived from cow's milk. ------------------------------------------------------------- Goat's milk does not contain agglutinin, which means that the fat globules in goat's milk do not cluster together like they do in cow's milk, which makes goat's milk easier for an infant to digest. Goat's milk also does not contain many of the allergens found in cow's milk. However, like cow's milk, goat's milk is also unsuitable for infants as it also does not have appropriate concentrations of electrolytes and can cause intestinal irritation and anemia. ------------------------------------------------------------- Human milk is noticeably thinner and sweeter than cow milk. Left in a cup, the cream will rise and form a thin layer **************************************************************** This information is not medical advise but intended only to help guide you to ask the best questions you can with a bit of understanding of the issues and the knowledge required to seek specific advise from experienced individuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 Steve This was a big deal about ten years ago for me an several others. Matol had a product with all kinds of stats and reports and the guy that made it for them was sharp. The other company was out of Canada - I forget the name right now. We all bought a lot of their stuff and tracted it. We all had good insurance at the time and did a good job of monitoring. When my buddies started dieing I quite buying and the companies quite corresponding.  One of the American AirLines pilots got his T cell count up to 1200 just before he died. I really didn't have anything but a high PSA at the time and it just keep going up.   awareness.investigation.knowledge.potential.motivation.action.patience.results                                                                         Duke Dallas - Texas                                              info@... From: esdel1955 <esdel1955@...> Subject: colostrum Coconut Oil Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 6:16 PM Does anyone have any experience with colostrum? I keep reading about how fantastic it's supposed to be but I'm reluctant to spend yet more money on something just because some website says it's great. Thanks,  | Unsubscribe .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 Do you mean pre-milk in human lactation or am I missing something? On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 6:16 PM, esdel1955 <esdel1955@...> wrote: > > Does anyone have any experience with colostrum? I keep reading about > how fantastic it's supposed to be but I'm reluctant to spend yet more > money on something just because some website says it's great. Thanks, > > SteveD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 Ah...nevermind, you mean bovine colostrum. On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Amy Price <amyd.price@...> wrote: > Do you mean pre-milk in human lactation or am I missing something? > > > On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 6:16 PM, esdel1955 <esdel1955@...> wrote: > >> >> Does anyone have any experience with colostrum? I keep reading about >> how fantastic it's supposed to be but I'm reluctant to spend yet more >> money on something just because some website says it's great. Thanks, >> >> SteveD >> >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 Duke, thanks for your reply, alarming though it is! I hope they got the guy who was peddling the stuff, although I imagine it must have been something other than real colostrum, which is a component of mother's milk (the commercially available colostrum comes from cows). Is that what you understood you were taking? Anyway, glad you're still with us:) SteveD > > From: esdel1955 <esdel1955@...> > Subject: colostrum > Coconut Oil > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 6:16 PM > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any experience with colostrum? I keep reading about > how fantastic it's supposed to be but I'm reluctant to spend yet more > money on something just because some website says it's great. Thanks, > Â > | Unsubscribe > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 I didn't catch, Duke, whether this was a report on colostrum. I do know that a lot of people benefit hugely from colostrum and it is well-studied. Donna Crow, moderator of the beck-n-stuff group, has good quality and prices: http://excellentthings.com Duncan > > From: esdel1955 <esdel1955@...> > Subject: colostrum > Coconut Oil > Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 6:16 PM > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any experience with colostrum? I keep reading about > how fantastic it's supposed to be but I'm reluctant to spend yet more > money on something just because some website says it's great. Thanks, > Â > | Unsubscribe > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Any relation to you Duncan? Dee Posted by: " Duncan Crow " duncancrow@... duncancrow Fri Jan 2, 2009 9:11 am (PST) <snip>Donna Crow, moderator of the beck-n-stuff group, has good quality and prices: http://excellentthings.com Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 No I'm not related to Donna Crow; her name is derived from native American Crow, not French Croix. Duncan > > Any relation to you Duncan? > > Dee > > > Posted by: " Duncan Crow " duncancrow@... duncancrow > Fri Jan 2, 2009 9:11 am (PST) > > <snip>Donna Crow, moderator of the beck-n-stuff group, has > good quality and prices: > http://excellentthings.com > > Duncan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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