Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 I think that would be such a smart idea. I had thought about suggesting that myself. Let me know what you find. I am going to contact ImmuneTree today and ask if they have a distributor in Europe and I will get back with you. Donna Re: colostrum > > > Jim wrote: > > So, as I see it, from the two sources that have been suggested, the > colostrum from Immunetree is only from the first milking, and sells by > the ounce, while the New Zealand colostrum is from the first 5 days > milking and sells by the pound. I can see an advantage from either point > of view. > > Hi Jim and all. I called Immune Tree yesterday and asked if they have bulk amounts available and they don't normally sell it that way but said they would give me it in Kilo amounts, (about 2 lbs 2 oz) . My price would be $130. Theirs would be $172. > I don't know what that equates to in a savings because I haven't calculated it. Compared to the 2.5 oz bulk which is 71 grams at $22 . , , , , , Just calculated it. That would add up to $299.20 if bought in the small bottles, so it is a huge savings. > If anyone is interested, I could get this for you, but I don't have it in stock. I have never bought it this way. When I called the company my rep had to go and ask the owner if he would sell in larger amounts and she came back with a yes. But she also said it isn't labled or packaged for sale so it would just be in a clear bag. Nothing pretty. and no directions for use. But 1/2 tsp equals two 500 mg caps. Most people take the equivalent of 2-6 caps a day, unless, as I said they are fighting something really nasty like MS or a severe sports injury or something. > > By the way, good colostrum has a nutty, buttery flavor. If it is not fresh or has been heated it will taste sour. > Recommended dosage for most people would be 1/2 to 1 1/2 tsp a day. If you were fighting something serious like MS or aids, then you could take as much as 3 tsp a day. Most people would not tolerate that much tho. It raises your seratonin levels so high that you would just want to sleep all the time. > The New Zealand stuff can be taken in larger doses because it isn't pure. > And That's all folks, > Donna > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2001 Report Share Posted March 29, 2001 , I have used the colostrum from New Zealnd and have not seen any benefits at all. Maybe it depends on the kind one uses. Donna from this list has a products she says is great, Jim uses it and may be able to give you a response. I have another response from someone on this subject and will add it to this letter. Christel ===== hi the experimenting that i have done both with my own family and with several clients... did NOT show colustrom to be the amazing substance that its proponants claim. ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2001 Report Share Posted March 29, 2001 Dear , Colostrum is worth a try. Methylene blue will eliminate rouleaux (pile of coins) formation, where the red blood cells are stuck together, and thus carry little oxygen. Rouleaux is a common cause of poor circulation to the extremities, because of the small diameter of the tiniest capillaries. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH Colostrum > Have recently received some info on colostrum. Appears very beneficial > for many health issues including boosting the immune system. Does anyone > have experience or info as to good or bad results from use? Any recommendations > before I begin using? Anything that I need to look out for? > I have peripheral neuralgia (poor circulation in my legs and feet). Have > been told by a MD that I'm getting old and that it is part of aging.... > better get used to it as there is no cure. > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > > > > > -- > iWon <http://www.iwon.com/> - Voted the #1 portal on the Web! > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2001 Report Share Posted March 29, 2001 Hi , You might want to check the archives of this list, as we discussed colostrum pretty indepth about a month ago. Lots of info there. But, to briefly recap. I LOVE COLOSTRUM. here is a good link www.immunetree.com and for the best price, contact me privately at ruthful@... Also, I would like to tell you about an experience my mother had recently. She is 80 and has had numbness in her feet for over a year. The doctors never did anything about it and so she just lived with it. The I put her on a product called heart technology and in just two days she had full feeling in her feet. I do know that colostrum has nerve growth factor in it and I know a man on another list who had neuropathy in one arm and it was getting smaller than the other arm and it trembled and after a short time on colostrum he had no trembling and he could tell his arm size was returning to normal. Hope that helps, Donna Colostrum Have recently received some info on colostrum. Appears very beneficial for many health issues including boosting the immune system. Does anyone have experience or info as to good or bad results from use? Any recommendations before I begin using? Anything that I need to look out for? I have peripheral neuralgia (poor circulation in my legs and feet). Have been told by a MD that I'm getting old and that it is part of aging.... better get used to it as there is no cure. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2001 Report Share Posted March 29, 2001 Responses in text below. Re: Colostrum , I have used the colostrum from New Zealnd and have not seen any benefits at all. Maybe it depends on the kind one uses. The one from New Zealand is not pure colostrum and so I am not surprised that Christel did not see benefits. On the other hand, even tho it is not pure there are other people who have used it and had great benefit. I guess this is true with most products. I have yet to find any that work for 100 % of the people. Donna from this list has a products she says is great, It is. In my experience with Immune Trees colostrum, the people who notice nothing are rare. I have more repeat business for this product than any other I have ever shared because people love what it does for them. But, again, even with this I have had a few people out of a hundred say they didn't notice much of anything. I have another response from someone on this subject and will add it to this letter. Christel ===== hi the experimenting that i have done both with my own family and with several clients... did NOT show colustrom to be the amazing substance that its proponants claim. I wonder what brand it was. Donna ===== OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2001 Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 , What kind of heart problems? That's pretty vague. Without knowing more, I can't imagine how colostrum for a few days could cause ANY kind of heart problem. I had congestive heart failure, which is supposedly permanent, and nothing on that end of the spectrum would be problemated ;-) by colostrum. And, on the other end of heart disease, I still don't see what harm could be caused in a few days, unless you are hypertensive and that's what you mean. Some things like, vitamin E, will elevate BP mildly for a few days while the body adjusts, but this would only be dangerous if one were over the top already. jim Doedens wrote: > > > > > I took colustrum (Immune-Tree) some days ago for a few days and started to have heart problems, does anybody know how this can happen? Could this be a possitive small healing crisis or could something be dangerous. Colostrum is loaded with growth hormones, so I thought maybe my heart just cannot cope with this. > > Regards > > Doedens ----- carpe diem, carpe pecuniam, carpe feminas. -- Jim Lambert jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2001 Report Share Posted April 18, 2001 Hi Jim, Donna and others, (I'm Dutch so excuses for any language mistakes) I was taking the colostrum with one full teaspoon two times a day, took it for 4 days and then stopped I've had a weak heart, left over from my mercury-amalgam poisoning that was discovered ten years ago. Md's have never been able to find anything, so not having a name for the complains, here is a discription: I'm easely over excited, don't know how to call that exactly. When things get too much, I easely get a weird fealing in the sollar plexus and it feels ofter as if then also the heart is involved and not functioning properly. The meridians of the small intenstines and the gallbladder become very painfull and the point of the nose starts swelling and becomes painfull. I become short of breath. Yoga and self-acupressure helpt me quite a bit and now after a week of resting and exercise I'm pretty much back on my feet again. So, was just wondering that I had such a strong relapse of complains the last few days, it prompt me to stop taking the colostrum. Maybe I was taking it in to high doses. I've asked an answer from immune tree, will let you know their answer. Maybe the colostrum has an effect on the gallbladder that is bothering me. Regards Doedens Jim Lambert wrote: > , > > What kind of heart problems? That's pretty vague. Without knowing more, > I can't imagine how colostrum for a few days could cause ANY kind of > heart problem. I had congestive heart failure, which is supposedly > permanent, and nothing on that end of the spectrum would be problemated > ;-) by colostrum. > > And, on the other end of heart disease, I still don't see what harm > could be caused in a few days, unless you are hypertensive and that's > what you mean. Some things like, vitamin E, will elevate BP mildly for a > few days while the body adjusts, but this would only be dangerous if one > were over the top already. > > jim > > Doedens wrote: > > > > > > > > > I took colustrum (Immune-Tree) some days ago for a few days and started to have heart problems, does anybody know how this can happen? Could this be a possitive small healing crisis or could something be dangerous. Colostrum is loaded with growth hormones, so I thought maybe my heart just cannot cope with this. > > > > Regards > > > > Doedens > ----- > carpe diem, carpe pecuniam, carpe feminas. -- Jim Lambert > > jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience > http://www.entrance.to/poetry > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2001 Report Share Posted April 18, 2001 Hi , In my experience that is way too much to start with. Colostrum is potent stuff. At least the pure stuff is. I am not a doctor, but I always recommend that people start with just 2 caps and work up to a dose that works for them. What you took was equal to 8 caps. That is alot. And you can definitely get some healing crisis responses with colostrum. So, when your courage has returned, smile, you might start with as little as 1/4 tsp and work up. I have been taking colostrum for about three years and I could not take 8 caps even now. It is just too potent for me. Hope this helps. Please don't be discouraged. I think you just took too much. Donna p.s. Your English is meteorically better my Dutch. Smile. Re: colostrum Hi Jim, Donna and others, (I'm Dutch so excuses for any language mistakes) I was taking the colostrum with one full teaspoon two times a day, took it for 4 days and then stopped I've had a weak heart, left over from my mercury-amalgam poisoning that was discovered ten years ago. Md's have never been able to find anything, so not having a name for the complains, here is a discription: I'm easely over excited, don't know how to call that exactly. When things get too much, I easely get a weird fealing in the sollar plexus and it feels ofter as if then also the heart is involved and not functioning properly. The meridians of the small intenstines and the gallbladder become very painfull and the point of the nose starts swelling and becomes painfull. I become short of breath. Yoga and self-acupressure helpt me quite a bit and now after a week of resting and exercise I'm pretty much back on my feet again. So, was just wondering that I had such a strong relapse of complains the last few days, it prompt me to stop taking the colostrum. Maybe I was taking it in to high doses. I've asked an answer from immune tree, will let you know their answer. Maybe the colostrum has an effect on the gallbladder that is bothering me. Regards Doedens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2001 Report Share Posted April 19, 2001 , One of the things that attracted me to colostrum is that something in it directly gets intestinal mucous to generate, healing lesions that allow leaky gut syndrome. So, your intestinal response should be a good one. Humans tend to have a more is more attitude about things. But, too much healthiness too quickly is sometimes startling. I agree with Donna. I would start back more slowly next time & build up. jim Doedens wrote: > > Hi Jim, Donna and others, > > (I'm Dutch so excuses for any language mistakes) > > I was taking the colostrum with one full teaspoon two times a day, took it for 4 days and then stopped > I've had a weak heart, left over from my mercury-amalgam poisoning that was discovered ten years ago. > > Md's have never been able to find anything, so not having a name for the complains, here is a discription: > I'm easely over excited, don't know how to call that exactly. When things get too much, I easely get a weird fealing in the sollar plexus and it feels ofter as if then also the heart is involved and not functioning properly. The meridians of the small intenstines and the gallbladder become very painfull and the point of the nose starts swelling and becomes painfull. I become short of breath. > > Yoga and self-acupressure helpt me quite a bit and now after a week of resting and exercise I'm pretty much back on my feet again. > > So, was just wondering that I had such a strong relapse of complains the last few days, it prompt me to stop taking the colostrum. Maybe I was taking it in to high doses. I've asked an answer from immune tree, will let you know their answer. > > Maybe the colostrum has an effect on the gallbladder that is bothering me. > > Regards > > Doedens > > Jim Lambert wrote: > > > , > > > > What kind of heart problems? That's pretty vague. Without knowing more, > > I can't imagine how colostrum for a few days could cause ANY kind of > > heart problem. I had congestive heart failure, which is supposedly > > permanent, and nothing on that end of the spectrum would be problemated > > ;-) by colostrum. > > > > And, on the other end of heart disease, I still don't see what harm > > could be caused in a few days, unless you are hypertensive and that's > > what you mean. Some things like, vitamin E, will elevate BP mildly for a > > few days while the body adjusts, but this would only be dangerous if one > > were over the top already. > > > > jim > > > > Doedens wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took colustrum (Immune-Tree) some days ago for a few days and started to have heart problems, does anybody know how this can happen? Could this be a possitive small healing crisis or could something be dangerous. Colostrum is loaded with growth hormones, so I thought maybe my heart just cannot cope with this. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Doedens > > ----- > > carpe diem, carpe pecuniam, carpe feminas. -- Jim Lambert > > > > jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience > > http://www.entrance.to/poetry > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2001 Report Share Posted April 22, 2001 Thanks, Jim and Donna, Will start again in one of the coming weeks and then on a quarter theespoon a day. Your advices have given me back my hope. I have a leacky gut, quite severe I presume and I have been very hopefull about the info on colostrum. So, with your info, will give it another more cautious try. Jim Lambert wrote: > , > > One of the things that attracted me to colostrum is that something in it > directly gets intestinal mucous to generate, healing lesions that allow > leaky gut syndrome. So, your intestinal response should be a good one. > > Humans tend to have a more is more attitude about things. But, too much > healthiness too quickly is sometimes startling. I agree with Donna. I > would start back more slowly next time & build up. > > jim > > Doedens wrote: > > > > Hi Jim, Donna and others, > > > > (I'm Dutch so excuses for any language mistakes) > > > > I was taking the colostrum with one full teaspoon two times a day, took it for 4 days and then stopped > > I've had a weak heart, left over from my mercury-amalgam poisoning that was discovered ten years ago. > > > > Md's have never been able to find anything, so not having a name for the complains, here is a discription: > > I'm easely over excited, don't know how to call that exactly. When things get too much, I easely get a weird fealing in the sollar plexus and it feels ofter as if then also the heart is involved and not functioning properly. The meridians of the small intenstines and the gallbladder become very painfull and the point of the nose starts swelling and becomes painfull. I become short of breath. > > > > Yoga and self-acupressure helpt me quite a bit and now after a week of resting and exercise I'm pretty much back on my feet again. > > > > So, was just wondering that I had such a strong relapse of complains the last few days, it prompt me to stop taking the colostrum. Maybe I was taking it in to high doses. I've asked an answer from immune tree, will let you know their answer. > > > > Maybe the colostrum has an effect on the gallbladder that is bothering me. > > > > Regards > > > > Doedens > > > > Jim Lambert wrote: > > > > > , > > > > > > What kind of heart problems? That's pretty vague. Without knowing more, > > > I can't imagine how colostrum for a few days could cause ANY kind of > > > heart problem. I had congestive heart failure, which is supposedly > > > permanent, and nothing on that end of the spectrum would be problemated > > > ;-) by colostrum. > > > > > > And, on the other end of heart disease, I still don't see what harm > > > could be caused in a few days, unless you are hypertensive and that's > > > what you mean. Some things like, vitamin E, will elevate BP mildly for a > > > few days while the body adjusts, but this would only be dangerous if one > > > were over the top already. > > > > > > jim > > > > > > Doedens wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took colustrum (Immune-Tree) some days ago for a few days and started to have heart problems, does anybody know how this can happen? Could this be a possitive small healing crisis or could something be dangerous. Colostrum is loaded with growth hormones, so I thought maybe my heart just cannot cope with this. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Doedens > > > ----- > > > carpe diem, carpe pecuniam, carpe feminas. -- Jim Lambert > > > > > > jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience > > > http://www.entrance.to/poetry > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2001 Report Share Posted October 8, 2001 I also get Immune-Tree colostrum from Donna, and I believe it is definitely better than the majority of others I have tried from New Zealand, none of which are first milking only, as is Immune-Tree's colostrum. I have been taking 2 teaspoons with water, every am on an empty stomach, for about six months or more, I've lost track. It's powerful stuff, the next best thing I've found since lack of money made me stop the hGH injections. jim Gail Naranjo wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > :Sandi Cool Wrote: > > > > WOULD LIKE TO TRY IT...HOW CAN I GET HOLD OF THE COLOSTRUM? > > SAN > > > Hi Sandi, > > I get mine from Donna Crow at ruthful@... It is by Immune-Tree, > really good stuff and a good price. I don't know if she ships to the UK > tho. > > Gail > -- Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people seem bright until you hear them speak. --Lou Rubinacci jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2001 Report Share Posted October 8, 2001 I also get Immune-Tree colostrum from Donna, and I believe it is definitely better than the majority of others I have tried from New Zealand, none of which are first milking only, as is Immune-Tree's colostrum. I have been taking 2 teaspoons with water, every am on an empty stomach, for about six months or more, I've lost track. It's powerful stuff, the next best thing I've found since lack of money made me stop the hGH injections. jim Gail Naranjo wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > :Sandi Cool Wrote: > > > > WOULD LIKE TO TRY IT...HOW CAN I GET HOLD OF THE COLOSTRUM? > > SAN > > > Hi Sandi, > > I get mine from Donna Crow at ruthful@... It is by Immune-Tree, > really good stuff and a good price. I don't know if she ships to the UK > tho. > > Gail > -- Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people seem bright until you hear them speak. --Lou Rubinacci jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 Haha, Donna. If that was common knowledge, men would be buying up all the colostrum, just like if women knew that long term consumption of Evening Primrose Oil enlarges the breasts, they would have that on their " must consume " schedule. I wonder how many implants could have been avoided with EPO. That big bottle of colostrum on the shelf looks mighty attractive right now. Hmmmm. God does have a sense of humor, IMO. jp On the colostrum issue. I am always amazed when people don't get spectacular results with it. I know Christel has had problems absorbing stuff, so I am not totally amazed, but still dissappointed. I want everyone to win. Much like the coral, it has been just phenomenal for me and so many people I know. I have had more than one over 40 guy tell me that his wee willy winkie wasn't so wee anymore. And the same for women. For those of you on list who are too young to know this, there is genital atrophy with age and colostrum is remarkable at reversing that. Just one of the many good things it does, like rebuilding muscle. I am so sorry for the people whose bodies don't seem to use it well, because for those of us who do it is more fun that can really be expressed. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 Haha, Donna. If that was common knowledge, men would be buying up all the colostrum, just like if women knew that long term consumption of Evening Primrose Oil enlarges the breasts, they would have that on their " must consume " schedule. I wonder how many implants could have been avoided with EPO. That big bottle of colostrum on the shelf looks mighty attractive right now. Hmmmm. God does have a sense of humor, IMO. jp On the colostrum issue. I am always amazed when people don't get spectacular results with it. I know Christel has had problems absorbing stuff, so I am not totally amazed, but still dissappointed. I want everyone to win. Much like the coral, it has been just phenomenal for me and so many people I know. I have had more than one over 40 guy tell me that his wee willy winkie wasn't so wee anymore. And the same for women. For those of you on list who are too young to know this, there is genital atrophy with age and colostrum is remarkable at reversing that. Just one of the many good things it does, like rebuilding muscle. I am so sorry for the people whose bodies don't seem to use it well, because for those of us who do it is more fun that can really be expressed. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 OK, jp, I need a little more clarification on this one, please.... long term consumption of EPO enlarges the breasts??? As a former saline breast implant recipient and victim of silicone toxicity from them, this comment did more than catch my eye and make me chuckle....I have never heard this before. I've heard about all the herbs, sure, but not EPO! If it is true, I sure wish I would have heard it before I paid a very dear price with my health for those toxic time bombs. Do you have any sources for verification, or is it just another old wives tale? Patty Re: colostrum > Haha, Donna. If that was common knowledge, men would be > buying up all the colostrum, just like if women knew that long > term consumption of Evening Primrose Oil enlarges the breasts, > they would have that on their " must consume " schedule. I wonder > how many implants could have been avoided with EPO. > That big bottle of colostrum on the shelf looks mighty attractive > right now. Hmmmm. > God does have a sense of humor, IMO. > jp > > > On the colostrum issue. I am always amazed when people don't get spectacular results with it. I know Christel has had problems absorbing stuff, so I am not totally amazed, but still dissappointed. I want everyone to win. > > Much like the coral, it has been just phenomenal for me and so many people I know. I have had more than one over 40 guy tell me that his wee willy winkie wasn't so wee anymore. And the same for women. For those of you on list who are too young to know this, there is genital atrophy with age and colostrum is remarkable at reversing that. Just one of the many good things it does, like rebuilding muscle. > > I am so sorry for the people whose bodies don't seem to use it well, because for those of us who do it is more fun that can really be expressed. > > Donna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 OK, jp, I need a little more clarification on this one, please.... long term consumption of EPO enlarges the breasts??? As a former saline breast implant recipient and victim of silicone toxicity from them, this comment did more than catch my eye and make me chuckle....I have never heard this before. I've heard about all the herbs, sure, but not EPO! If it is true, I sure wish I would have heard it before I paid a very dear price with my health for those toxic time bombs. Do you have any sources for verification, or is it just another old wives tale? Patty Re: colostrum > Haha, Donna. If that was common knowledge, men would be > buying up all the colostrum, just like if women knew that long > term consumption of Evening Primrose Oil enlarges the breasts, > they would have that on their " must consume " schedule. I wonder > how many implants could have been avoided with EPO. > That big bottle of colostrum on the shelf looks mighty attractive > right now. Hmmmm. > God does have a sense of humor, IMO. > jp > > > On the colostrum issue. I am always amazed when people don't get spectacular results with it. I know Christel has had problems absorbing stuff, so I am not totally amazed, but still dissappointed. I want everyone to win. > > Much like the coral, it has been just phenomenal for me and so many people I know. I have had more than one over 40 guy tell me that his wee willy winkie wasn't so wee anymore. And the same for women. For those of you on list who are too young to know this, there is genital atrophy with age and colostrum is remarkable at reversing that. Just one of the many good things it does, like rebuilding muscle. > > I am so sorry for the people whose bodies don't seem to use it well, because for those of us who do it is more fun that can really be expressed. > > Donna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 OK, jp, I need a little more clarification on this one, please.... long term consumption of EPO enlarges the breasts??? As a former saline breast implant recipient and victim of silicone toxicity from them, this comment did more than catch my eye and make me chuckle....I have never heard this before. I've heard about all the herbs, sure, but not EPO! If it is true, I sure wish I would have heard it before I paid a very dear price with my health for those toxic time bombs. Do you have any sources for verification, or is it just another old wives tale? Patty Re: colostrum > Haha, Donna. If that was common knowledge, men would be > buying up all the colostrum, just like if women knew that long > term consumption of Evening Primrose Oil enlarges the breasts, > they would have that on their " must consume " schedule. I wonder > how many implants could have been avoided with EPO. > That big bottle of colostrum on the shelf looks mighty attractive > right now. Hmmmm. > God does have a sense of humor, IMO. > jp > > > On the colostrum issue. I am always amazed when people don't get spectacular results with it. I know Christel has had problems absorbing stuff, so I am not totally amazed, but still dissappointed. I want everyone to win. > > Much like the coral, it has been just phenomenal for me and so many people I know. I have had more than one over 40 guy tell me that his wee willy winkie wasn't so wee anymore. And the same for women. For those of you on list who are too young to know this, there is genital atrophy with age and colostrum is remarkable at reversing that. Just one of the many good things it does, like rebuilding muscle. > > I am so sorry for the people whose bodies don't seem to use it well, because for those of us who do it is more fun that can really be expressed. > > Donna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 Patty, Years ago, I read a book about Evening Primrose Oil for Multiple Sclerosis by a woman who mentioned this in the book and had tried it herself. She went from an A to a double D cup, I believe. My wife has gone from a small A to a C, and has been taking it for years. Not only are her breasts bigger, but other *ahem* features have grown more mature and attractive also. Her Ex swears she got a " boob job. " She is on other good nutrition, but I believe the EPO did this. It is not fast acting. It takes years. Try it and let us know if it works for you a few years from now if we're all still here. Believe me, I don't make up these crazy things. I just have a mind to remember trivia, and have been exposed to a lot of stuff in the world of nutrition. File this one under B, or under S for " side-effects " . jp ) OK, jp, I need a little more clarification on this one, please.... long term consumption of EPO enlarges the breasts??? As a former saline breast implant recipient and victim of silicone toxicity from them, this comment did more than catch my eye and make me chuckle....I have never heard this before. I've heard about all the herbs, sure, but not EPO! If it is true, I sure wish I would have heard it before I paid a very dear price with my health for those toxic time bombs. Do you have any sources for verification, or is it just another old wives tale? Patty Re: colostrum > Haha, Donna. If that was common knowledge, men would be > buying up all the colostrum, just like if women knew that long > term consumption of Evening Primrose Oil enlarges the breasts, > they would have that on their " must consume " schedule. I wonder > how many implants could have been avoided with EPO. > That big bottle of colostrum on the shelf looks mighty attractive > right now. Hmmmm. > God does have a sense of humor, IMO. > jp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 Patty, Years ago, I read a book about Evening Primrose Oil for Multiple Sclerosis by a woman who mentioned this in the book and had tried it herself. She went from an A to a double D cup, I believe. My wife has gone from a small A to a C, and has been taking it for years. Not only are her breasts bigger, but other *ahem* features have grown more mature and attractive also. Her Ex swears she got a " boob job. " She is on other good nutrition, but I believe the EPO did this. It is not fast acting. It takes years. Try it and let us know if it works for you a few years from now if we're all still here. Believe me, I don't make up these crazy things. I just have a mind to remember trivia, and have been exposed to a lot of stuff in the world of nutrition. File this one under B, or under S for " side-effects " . jp ) OK, jp, I need a little more clarification on this one, please.... long term consumption of EPO enlarges the breasts??? As a former saline breast implant recipient and victim of silicone toxicity from them, this comment did more than catch my eye and make me chuckle....I have never heard this before. I've heard about all the herbs, sure, but not EPO! If it is true, I sure wish I would have heard it before I paid a very dear price with my health for those toxic time bombs. Do you have any sources for verification, or is it just another old wives tale? Patty Re: colostrum > Haha, Donna. If that was common knowledge, men would be > buying up all the colostrum, just like if women knew that long > term consumption of Evening Primrose Oil enlarges the breasts, > they would have that on their " must consume " schedule. I wonder > how many implants could have been avoided with EPO. > That big bottle of colostrum on the shelf looks mighty attractive > right now. Hmmmm. > God does have a sense of humor, IMO. > jp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 Re: colostrum > Believe me, I don't make up these crazy things. I just > have a mind to remember trivia, and have been exposed to > a lot of stuff in the world of nutrition. File this one under B, or > under S for " side-effects " . > > Hi JP, Or maybe we could file it under BS for Bull Sh#%.....No, I'm just teasing you now. Actually Patty's story saddened me. So if the EPO works, so be it. However, it would be even nicer if people were more readily acceptable of themself just as they are. Besides the " added " benefit of EPO, I've found it is great for mood swings, hot flashes, depression, skin, helps reduce high blood pressure and who know what else. All in all it's a good thing for me anyway. Gail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 Re: colostrum > Believe me, I don't make up these crazy things. I just > have a mind to remember trivia, and have been exposed to > a lot of stuff in the world of nutrition. File this one under B, or > under S for " side-effects " . > > Hi JP, Or maybe we could file it under BS for Bull Sh#%.....No, I'm just teasing you now. Actually Patty's story saddened me. So if the EPO works, so be it. However, it would be even nicer if people were more readily acceptable of themself just as they are. Besides the " added " benefit of EPO, I've found it is great for mood swings, hot flashes, depression, skin, helps reduce high blood pressure and who know what else. All in all it's a good thing for me anyway. Gail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 No woman should take EPO just for that reason because it is so slow acting, but my wife took it as a part of an overall nutrition program. She says, though, that it is nice to finally have some breasts. I'd love her if she was bald, breastless and buttless though. And wouldn't it be better to take EPO than have implants? I had a friend in college who formed scar tissue around hers and had hardening and deformation to a degree. Now, I think I'll take some colostrum and see if I can look good in the shower again... jp Or maybe we could file it under BS for Bull Sh#%.....No, I'm just teasing you now. Actually Patty's story saddened me. So if the EPO works, so be it. However, it would be even nicer if people were more readily acceptable of themself just as they are. Besides the " added " benefit of EPO, I've found it is great for mood swings, hot flashes, depression, skin, helps reduce high blood pressure and who know what else. All in all it's a good thing for me anyway. Gail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 Actually, it is pretty common knowledge in herb circles. How much has she taken daily to get the results she got. Donna -----Original Message----- Believe me, I don't make up these crazy things. I just have a mind to remember trivia, and have been exposed to a lot of stuff in the world of nutrition. File this one under B, or under S for " side-effects " . jp ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 Actually, it is pretty common knowledge in herb circles. How much has she taken daily to get the results she got. Donna -----Original Message----- Believe me, I don't make up these crazy things. I just have a mind to remember trivia, and have been exposed to a lot of stuff in the world of nutrition. File this one under B, or under S for " side-effects " . jp ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 Actually, it is pretty common knowledge in herb circles. How much has she taken daily to get the results she got. Donna -----Original Message----- Believe me, I don't make up these crazy things. I just have a mind to remember trivia, and have been exposed to a lot of stuff in the world of nutrition. File this one under B, or under S for " side-effects " . jp ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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