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I think that would be such a smart idea. I had thought about suggesting that

myself. Let me know what you find. I am going to contact ImmuneTree today and

ask if they have a distributor in Europe and I will get back with you.

Donna

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>

>

> Jim wrote:

>

> So, as I see it, from the two sources that have been suggested, the

> colostrum from Immunetree is only from the first milking, and sells by

> the ounce, while the New Zealand colostrum is from the first 5 days

> milking and sells by the pound. I can see an advantage from either

point

> of view.

>

> Hi Jim and all. I called Immune Tree yesterday and asked if they have

bulk amounts available and they don't normally sell it that way but said they

would give me it in Kilo amounts, (about 2 lbs 2 oz) . My price would be $130.

Theirs would be $172.

> I don't know what that equates to in a savings because I haven't

calculated it. Compared to the 2.5 oz bulk which is 71 grams at $22 . , , ,

, , Just calculated it. That would add up to $299.20 if bought in the small

bottles, so it is a huge savings.

> If anyone is interested, I could get this for you, but I don't have it

in stock. I have never bought it this way. When I called the company my rep

had to go and ask the owner if he would sell in larger amounts and she came back

with a yes. But she also said it isn't labled or packaged for sale so it would

just be in a clear bag. Nothing pretty. and no directions for use. But 1/2 tsp

equals two 500 mg caps. Most people take the equivalent of 2-6 caps a day,

unless, as I said they are fighting something really nasty like MS or a severe

sports injury or something.

>

> By the way, good colostrum has a nutty, buttery flavor. If it is not

fresh or has been heated it will taste sour.

> Recommended dosage for most people would be 1/2 to 1 1/2 tsp a day.

If you were fighting something serious like MS or aids, then you could take as

much as 3 tsp a day. Most people would not tolerate that much tho. It raises

your seratonin levels so high that you would just want to sleep all the time.

> The New Zealand stuff can be taken in larger doses because it isn't

pure.

> And That's all folks,

> Donna

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, I have used the colostrum from New Zealnd and have not seen any

benefits at all. Maybe it depends on the kind one uses. Donna from this list

has a products she says is great, Jim uses it and may be able to give you a

response. I have another response from someone on this subject and will add

it to this letter.

Christel

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hi

the experimenting that i have done both with my own family and with several

clients... did NOT show colustrom to be the amazing substance that its

proponants claim.

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Colostrum is worth a try.

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where the red blood cells are stuck together, and thus carry little

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Colostrum

> Have recently received some info on colostrum. Appears very beneficial

> for many health issues including boosting the immune system. Does anyone

> have experience or info as to good or bad results from use? Any

recommendations

> before I begin using? Anything that I need to look out for?

> I have peripheral neuralgia (poor circulation in my legs and feet). Have

> been told by a MD that I'm getting old and that it is part of aging....

> better get used to it as there is no cure.

> Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Hi ,

You might want to check the archives of this list, as we discussed colostrum

pretty indepth about a month ago. Lots of info there.

But, to briefly recap. I LOVE COLOSTRUM. here is a good link

www.immunetree.com and for the best price, contact me privately at

ruthful@...

Also, I would like to tell you about an experience my mother had recently. She

is 80 and has had numbness in her feet for over a year. The doctors never did

anything about it and so she just lived with it. The I put her on a product

called heart technology and in just two days she had full feeling in her feet.

I do know that colostrum has nerve growth factor in it and I know a man on

another list who had neuropathy in one arm and it was getting smaller than the

other arm and it trembled and after a short time on colostrum he had no

trembling and he could tell his arm size was returning to normal.

Hope that helps,

Donna

Colostrum

Have recently received some info on colostrum. Appears very beneficial

for many health issues including boosting the immune system. Does anyone

have experience or info as to good or bad results from use? Any

recommendations

before I begin using? Anything that I need to look out for?

I have peripheral neuralgia (poor circulation in my legs and feet). Have

been told by a MD that I'm getting old and that it is part of aging....

better get used to it as there is no cure.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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, I have used the colostrum from New Zealnd and have not seen any

benefits at all. Maybe it depends on the kind one uses.

The one from New Zealand is not pure colostrum and so I am not surprised

that Christel did not see benefits. On the other hand, even tho it is not pure

there are other people who have used it and had great benefit. I guess this is

true with most products. I have yet to find any that work for 100 % of the

people.

Donna from this list

has a products she says is great,

It is. In my experience with Immune Trees colostrum, the people who notice

nothing are rare. I have more repeat business for this product than any other I

have ever shared because people love what it does for them. But, again, even

with this I have had a few people out of a hundred say they didn't notice much

of anything.

I have another response from someone on this subject and will add

it to this letter.

Christel

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hi

the experimenting that i have done both with my own family and with several

clients... did NOT show colustrom to be the amazing substance that its

proponants claim.

I wonder what brand it was.

Donna

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What kind of heart problems? That's pretty vague. Without knowing more,

I can't imagine how colostrum for a few days could cause ANY kind of

heart problem. I had congestive heart failure, which is supposedly

permanent, and nothing on that end of the spectrum would be problemated

;-) by colostrum.

And, on the other end of heart disease, I still don't see what harm

could be caused in a few days, unless you are hypertensive and that's

what you mean. Some things like, vitamin E, will elevate BP mildly for a

few days while the body adjusts, but this would only be dangerous if one

were over the top already.

jim :)

Doedens wrote:

>

> >

>

> I took colustrum (Immune-Tree) some days ago for a few days and started to

have heart problems, does anybody know how this can happen? Could this be a

possitive small healing crisis or could something be dangerous. Colostrum is

loaded with growth hormones, so I thought maybe my heart just cannot cope with

this.

>

> Regards

>

> Doedens

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Hi Jim, Donna and others,

(I'm Dutch so excuses for any language mistakes)

I was taking the colostrum with one full teaspoon two times a day, took it for 4

days and then stopped

I've had a weak heart, left over from my mercury-amalgam poisoning that was

discovered ten years ago.

Md's have never been able to find anything, so not having a name for the

complains, here is a discription:

I'm easely over excited, don't know how to call that exactly. When things get

too much, I easely get a weird fealing in the sollar plexus and it feels ofter

as if then also the heart is involved and not functioning properly. The

meridians of the small intenstines and the gallbladder become very painfull and

the point of the nose starts swelling and becomes painfull. I become short of

breath.

Yoga and self-acupressure helpt me quite a bit and now after a week of resting

and exercise I'm pretty much back on my feet again.

So, was just wondering that I had such a strong relapse of complains the last

few days, it prompt me to stop taking the colostrum. Maybe I was taking it in to

high doses. I've asked an answer from immune tree, will let you know their

answer.

Maybe the colostrum has an effect on the gallbladder that is bothering me.

Regards

Doedens

Jim Lambert wrote:

> ,

>

> What kind of heart problems? That's pretty vague. Without knowing more,

> I can't imagine how colostrum for a few days could cause ANY kind of

> heart problem. I had congestive heart failure, which is supposedly

> permanent, and nothing on that end of the spectrum would be problemated

> ;-) by colostrum.

>

> And, on the other end of heart disease, I still don't see what harm

> could be caused in a few days, unless you are hypertensive and that's

> what you mean. Some things like, vitamin E, will elevate BP mildly for a

> few days while the body adjusts, but this would only be dangerous if one

> were over the top already.

>

> jim :)

>

> Doedens wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > I took colustrum (Immune-Tree) some days ago for a few days and started to

have heart problems, does anybody know how this can happen? Could this be a

possitive small healing crisis or could something be dangerous. Colostrum is

loaded with growth hormones, so I thought maybe my heart just cannot cope with

this.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Doedens

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Hi , In my experience that is way too much to start with. Colostrum is

potent stuff. At least the pure stuff is. I am not a doctor, but I always

recommend that people start with just 2 caps and work up to a dose that works

for them. What you took was equal to 8 caps. That is alot. And you can

definitely get some healing crisis responses with colostrum.

So, when your courage has returned, smile, you might start with as little as 1/4

tsp and work up. I have been taking colostrum for about three years and I could

not take 8 caps even now. It is just too potent for me.

Hope this helps. Please don't be discouraged. I think you just took too much.

Donna

p.s. Your English is meteorically better my Dutch. Smile.

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Hi Jim, Donna and others,

(I'm Dutch so excuses for any language mistakes)

I was taking the colostrum with one full teaspoon two times a day, took it

for 4 days and then stopped

I've had a weak heart, left over from my mercury-amalgam poisoning that was

discovered ten years ago.

Md's have never been able to find anything, so not having a name for the

complains, here is a discription:

I'm easely over excited, don't know how to call that exactly. When things

get too much, I easely get a weird fealing in the sollar plexus and it feels

ofter as if then also the heart is involved and not functioning properly. The

meridians of the small intenstines and the gallbladder become very painfull and

the point of the nose starts swelling and becomes painfull. I become short of

breath.

Yoga and self-acupressure helpt me quite a bit and now after a week of

resting and exercise I'm pretty much back on my feet again.

So, was just wondering that I had such a strong relapse of complains the

last few days, it prompt me to stop taking the colostrum. Maybe I was taking it

in to high doses. I've asked an answer from immune tree, will let you know their

answer.

Maybe the colostrum has an effect on the gallbladder that is bothering me.

Regards

Doedens

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One of the things that attracted me to colostrum is that something in it

directly gets intestinal mucous to generate, healing lesions that allow

leaky gut syndrome. So, your intestinal response should be a good one.

Humans tend to have a more is more attitude about things. But, too much

healthiness too quickly is sometimes startling. I agree with Donna. I

would start back more slowly next time & build up.

jim :)

Doedens wrote:

>

> Hi Jim, Donna and others,

>

> (I'm Dutch so excuses for any language mistakes)

>

> I was taking the colostrum with one full teaspoon two times a day, took it for

4 days and then stopped

> I've had a weak heart, left over from my mercury-amalgam poisoning that was

discovered ten years ago.

>

> Md's have never been able to find anything, so not having a name for the

complains, here is a discription:

> I'm easely over excited, don't know how to call that exactly. When things get

too much, I easely get a weird fealing in the sollar plexus and it feels ofter

as if then also the heart is involved and not functioning properly. The

meridians of the small intenstines and the gallbladder become very painfull and

the point of the nose starts swelling and becomes painfull. I become short of

breath.

>

> Yoga and self-acupressure helpt me quite a bit and now after a week of resting

and exercise I'm pretty much back on my feet again.

>

> So, was just wondering that I had such a strong relapse of complains the last

few days, it prompt me to stop taking the colostrum. Maybe I was taking it in to

high doses. I've asked an answer from immune tree, will let you know their

answer.

>

> Maybe the colostrum has an effect on the gallbladder that is bothering me.

>

> Regards

>

> Doedens

>

> Jim Lambert wrote:

>

> > ,

> >

> > What kind of heart problems? That's pretty vague. Without knowing more,

> > I can't imagine how colostrum for a few days could cause ANY kind of

> > heart problem. I had congestive heart failure, which is supposedly

> > permanent, and nothing on that end of the spectrum would be problemated

> > ;-) by colostrum.

> >

> > And, on the other end of heart disease, I still don't see what harm

> > could be caused in a few days, unless you are hypertensive and that's

> > what you mean. Some things like, vitamin E, will elevate BP mildly for a

> > few days while the body adjusts, but this would only be dangerous if one

> > were over the top already.

> >

> > jim :)

> >

> > Doedens wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > I took colustrum (Immune-Tree) some days ago for a few days and started

to have heart problems, does anybody know how this can happen? Could this be a

possitive small healing crisis or could something be dangerous. Colostrum is

loaded with growth hormones, so I thought maybe my heart just cannot cope with

this.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Doedens

> > -----

> > carpe diem, carpe pecuniam, carpe feminas. -- Jim Lambert

> >

> > jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

> > http://www.entrance.to/poetry

> >

> >

> > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

> >

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> >

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for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information

we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk.

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responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold

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Thanks, Jim and Donna,

Will start again in one of the coming weeks and then on a quarter theespoon a

day. Your advices have given me back my hope. I have a leacky gut, quite severe

I presume and I have been very hopefull about the info on colostrum. So, with

your info, will give it another more cautious try.

Jim Lambert wrote:

> ,

>

> One of the things that attracted me to colostrum is that something in it

> directly gets intestinal mucous to generate, healing lesions that allow

> leaky gut syndrome. So, your intestinal response should be a good one.

>

> Humans tend to have a more is more attitude about things. But, too much

> healthiness too quickly is sometimes startling. I agree with Donna. I

> would start back more slowly next time & build up.

>

> jim :)

>

> Doedens wrote:

> >

> > Hi Jim, Donna and others,

> >

> > (I'm Dutch so excuses for any language mistakes)

> >

> > I was taking the colostrum with one full teaspoon two times a day, took it

for 4 days and then stopped

> > I've had a weak heart, left over from my mercury-amalgam poisoning that was

discovered ten years ago.

> >

> > Md's have never been able to find anything, so not having a name for the

complains, here is a discription:

> > I'm easely over excited, don't know how to call that exactly. When things

get too much, I easely get a weird fealing in the sollar plexus and it feels

ofter as if then also the heart is involved and not functioning properly. The

meridians of the small intenstines and the gallbladder become very painfull and

the point of the nose starts swelling and becomes painfull. I become short of

breath.

> >

> > Yoga and self-acupressure helpt me quite a bit and now after a week of

resting and exercise I'm pretty much back on my feet again.

> >

> > So, was just wondering that I had such a strong relapse of complains the

last few days, it prompt me to stop taking the colostrum. Maybe I was taking it

in to high doses. I've asked an answer from immune tree, will let you know their

answer.

> >

> > Maybe the colostrum has an effect on the gallbladder that is bothering me.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Doedens

> >

> > Jim Lambert wrote:

> >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > What kind of heart problems? That's pretty vague. Without knowing more,

> > > I can't imagine how colostrum for a few days could cause ANY kind of

> > > heart problem. I had congestive heart failure, which is supposedly

> > > permanent, and nothing on that end of the spectrum would be problemated

> > > ;-) by colostrum.

> > >

> > > And, on the other end of heart disease, I still don't see what harm

> > > could be caused in a few days, unless you are hypertensive and that's

> > > what you mean. Some things like, vitamin E, will elevate BP mildly for a

> > > few days while the body adjusts, but this would only be dangerous if one

> > > were over the top already.

> > >

> > > jim :)

> > >

> > > Doedens wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > I took colustrum (Immune-Tree) some days ago for a few days and started

to have heart problems, does anybody know how this can happen? Could this be a

possitive small healing crisis or could something be dangerous. Colostrum is

loaded with growth hormones, so I thought maybe my heart just cannot cope with

this.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Doedens

> > > -----

> > > carpe diem, carpe pecuniam, carpe feminas. -- Jim Lambert

> > >

> > > jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

> > > http://www.entrance.to/poetry

> > >

> > >

> > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

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> > >

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I also get Immune-Tree colostrum from Donna, and I believe it is

definitely better than the majority of others I have tried from New

Zealand, none of which are first milking only, as is Immune-Tree's

colostrum.

I have been taking 2 teaspoons with water, every am on an empty stomach,

for about six months or more, I've lost track. It's powerful stuff, the

next best thing I've found since lack of money made me stop the hGH

injections.

jim :)

Gail Naranjo wrote:

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> ----- Original Message -----

> :Sandi Cool Wrote:

> >

> > WOULD LIKE TO TRY IT...HOW CAN I GET HOLD OF THE COLOSTRUM?

> > SAN

> >

> Hi Sandi,

>

> I get mine from Donna Crow at ruthful@... It is by Immune-Tree,

> really good stuff and a good price. I don't know if she ships to the UK

> tho.

>

> Gail

>

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I also get Immune-Tree colostrum from Donna, and I believe it is

definitely better than the majority of others I have tried from New

Zealand, none of which are first milking only, as is Immune-Tree's

colostrum.

I have been taking 2 teaspoons with water, every am on an empty stomach,

for about six months or more, I've lost track. It's powerful stuff, the

next best thing I've found since lack of money made me stop the hGH

injections.

jim :)

Gail Naranjo wrote:

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> :Sandi Cool Wrote:

> >

> > WOULD LIKE TO TRY IT...HOW CAN I GET HOLD OF THE COLOSTRUM?

> > SAN

> >

> Hi Sandi,

>

> I get mine from Donna Crow at ruthful@... It is by Immune-Tree,

> really good stuff and a good price. I don't know if she ships to the UK

> tho.

>

> Gail

>

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Haha, Donna. If that was common knowledge, men would be

buying up all the colostrum, just like if women knew that long

term consumption of Evening Primrose Oil enlarges the breasts,

they would have that on their " must consume " schedule. I wonder

how many implants could have been avoided with EPO.

That big bottle of colostrum on the shelf looks mighty attractive

right now. Hmmmm.

God does have a sense of humor, IMO.

jp

On the colostrum issue. I am always amazed when people don't get spectacular

results with it. I know Christel has had problems absorbing stuff, so I am not

totally amazed, but still dissappointed. I want everyone to win.

Much like the coral, it has been just phenomenal for me and so many people I

know. I have had more than one over 40 guy tell me that his wee willy winkie

wasn't so wee anymore. And the same for women. For those of you on list who

are too young to know this, there is genital atrophy with age and colostrum is

remarkable at reversing that. Just one of the many good things it does, like

rebuilding muscle.

I am so sorry for the people whose bodies don't seem to use it well, because

for those of us who do it is more fun that can really be expressed.

Donna

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Haha, Donna. If that was common knowledge, men would be

buying up all the colostrum, just like if women knew that long

term consumption of Evening Primrose Oil enlarges the breasts,

they would have that on their " must consume " schedule. I wonder

how many implants could have been avoided with EPO.

That big bottle of colostrum on the shelf looks mighty attractive

right now. Hmmmm.

God does have a sense of humor, IMO.

jp

On the colostrum issue. I am always amazed when people don't get spectacular

results with it. I know Christel has had problems absorbing stuff, so I am not

totally amazed, but still dissappointed. I want everyone to win.

Much like the coral, it has been just phenomenal for me and so many people I

know. I have had more than one over 40 guy tell me that his wee willy winkie

wasn't so wee anymore. And the same for women. For those of you on list who

are too young to know this, there is genital atrophy with age and colostrum is

remarkable at reversing that. Just one of the many good things it does, like

rebuilding muscle.

I am so sorry for the people whose bodies don't seem to use it well, because

for those of us who do it is more fun that can really be expressed.

Donna

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OK, jp, I need a little more clarification on this one, please.... long term

consumption of EPO enlarges the breasts??? As a former saline breast

implant recipient and victim of silicone toxicity from them, this comment

did more than catch my eye and make me chuckle....I have never heard this

before. I've heard about all the herbs, sure, but not EPO!

If it is true, I sure wish I would have heard it before I paid a very dear

price with my health for those toxic time bombs. Do you have any sources

for verification, or is it just another old wives tale?

Patty

Re: colostrum

> Haha, Donna. If that was common knowledge, men would be

> buying up all the colostrum, just like if women knew that long

> term consumption of Evening Primrose Oil enlarges the breasts,

> they would have that on their " must consume " schedule. I wonder

> how many implants could have been avoided with EPO.

> That big bottle of colostrum on the shelf looks mighty attractive

> right now. Hmmmm.

> God does have a sense of humor, IMO.

> jp

>

>

> On the colostrum issue. I am always amazed when people don't get

spectacular results with it. I know Christel has had problems absorbing

stuff, so I am not totally amazed, but still dissappointed. I want everyone

to win.

>

> Much like the coral, it has been just phenomenal for me and so many

people I know. I have had more than one over 40 guy tell me that his wee

willy winkie wasn't so wee anymore. And the same for women. For those of

you on list who are too young to know this, there is genital atrophy with

age and colostrum is remarkable at reversing that. Just one of the many

good things it does, like rebuilding muscle.

>

> I am so sorry for the people whose bodies don't seem to use it well,

because for those of us who do it is more fun that can really be expressed.

>

> Donna

>

>

>

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OK, jp, I need a little more clarification on this one, please.... long term

consumption of EPO enlarges the breasts??? As a former saline breast

implant recipient and victim of silicone toxicity from them, this comment

did more than catch my eye and make me chuckle....I have never heard this

before. I've heard about all the herbs, sure, but not EPO!

If it is true, I sure wish I would have heard it before I paid a very dear

price with my health for those toxic time bombs. Do you have any sources

for verification, or is it just another old wives tale?

Patty

Re: colostrum

> Haha, Donna. If that was common knowledge, men would be

> buying up all the colostrum, just like if women knew that long

> term consumption of Evening Primrose Oil enlarges the breasts,

> they would have that on their " must consume " schedule. I wonder

> how many implants could have been avoided with EPO.

> That big bottle of colostrum on the shelf looks mighty attractive

> right now. Hmmmm.

> God does have a sense of humor, IMO.

> jp

>

>

> On the colostrum issue. I am always amazed when people don't get

spectacular results with it. I know Christel has had problems absorbing

stuff, so I am not totally amazed, but still dissappointed. I want everyone

to win.

>

> Much like the coral, it has been just phenomenal for me and so many

people I know. I have had more than one over 40 guy tell me that his wee

willy winkie wasn't so wee anymore. And the same for women. For those of

you on list who are too young to know this, there is genital atrophy with

age and colostrum is remarkable at reversing that. Just one of the many

good things it does, like rebuilding muscle.

>

> I am so sorry for the people whose bodies don't seem to use it well,

because for those of us who do it is more fun that can really be expressed.

>

> Donna

>

>

>

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OK, jp, I need a little more clarification on this one, please.... long term

consumption of EPO enlarges the breasts??? As a former saline breast

implant recipient and victim of silicone toxicity from them, this comment

did more than catch my eye and make me chuckle....I have never heard this

before. I've heard about all the herbs, sure, but not EPO!

If it is true, I sure wish I would have heard it before I paid a very dear

price with my health for those toxic time bombs. Do you have any sources

for verification, or is it just another old wives tale?

Patty

Re: colostrum

> Haha, Donna. If that was common knowledge, men would be

> buying up all the colostrum, just like if women knew that long

> term consumption of Evening Primrose Oil enlarges the breasts,

> they would have that on their " must consume " schedule. I wonder

> how many implants could have been avoided with EPO.

> That big bottle of colostrum on the shelf looks mighty attractive

> right now. Hmmmm.

> God does have a sense of humor, IMO.

> jp

>

>

> On the colostrum issue. I am always amazed when people don't get

spectacular results with it. I know Christel has had problems absorbing

stuff, so I am not totally amazed, but still dissappointed. I want everyone

to win.

>

> Much like the coral, it has been just phenomenal for me and so many

people I know. I have had more than one over 40 guy tell me that his wee

willy winkie wasn't so wee anymore. And the same for women. For those of

you on list who are too young to know this, there is genital atrophy with

age and colostrum is remarkable at reversing that. Just one of the many

good things it does, like rebuilding muscle.

>

> I am so sorry for the people whose bodies don't seem to use it well,

because for those of us who do it is more fun that can really be expressed.

>

> Donna

>

>

>

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Patty,

Years ago, I read a book about Evening Primrose Oil for Multiple Sclerosis by a

woman

who mentioned this in the book and had tried it herself. She went from an

A to a double D cup, I believe.

My wife has gone from a small A to a C, and has been taking it

for years. Not only are her breasts bigger, but other *ahem* features

have grown more mature and attractive also. Her Ex swears she got a " boob job. "

She is on other good nutrition, but I believe the EPO did this.

It is not fast acting. It takes years. Try it and let us know

if it works for you a few years from now if we're all still here.

Believe me, I don't make up these crazy things. I just

have a mind to remember trivia, and have been exposed to

a lot of stuff in the world of nutrition. File this one under B, or

under S for " side-effects " .

jp

:o)

OK, jp, I need a little more clarification on this one, please.... long term

consumption of EPO enlarges the breasts??? As a former saline breast

implant recipient and victim of silicone toxicity from them, this comment

did more than catch my eye and make me chuckle....I have never heard this

before. I've heard about all the herbs, sure, but not EPO!

If it is true, I sure wish I would have heard it before I paid a very dear

price with my health for those toxic time bombs. Do you have any sources

for verification, or is it just another old wives tale?

Patty

Re: colostrum

> Haha, Donna. If that was common knowledge, men would be

> buying up all the colostrum, just like if women knew that long

> term consumption of Evening Primrose Oil enlarges the breasts,

> they would have that on their " must consume " schedule. I wonder

> how many implants could have been avoided with EPO.

> That big bottle of colostrum on the shelf looks mighty attractive

> right now. Hmmmm.

> God does have a sense of humor, IMO.

> jp

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Patty,

Years ago, I read a book about Evening Primrose Oil for Multiple Sclerosis by a

woman

who mentioned this in the book and had tried it herself. She went from an

A to a double D cup, I believe.

My wife has gone from a small A to a C, and has been taking it

for years. Not only are her breasts bigger, but other *ahem* features

have grown more mature and attractive also. Her Ex swears she got a " boob job. "

She is on other good nutrition, but I believe the EPO did this.

It is not fast acting. It takes years. Try it and let us know

if it works for you a few years from now if we're all still here.

Believe me, I don't make up these crazy things. I just

have a mind to remember trivia, and have been exposed to

a lot of stuff in the world of nutrition. File this one under B, or

under S for " side-effects " .

jp

:o)

OK, jp, I need a little more clarification on this one, please.... long term

consumption of EPO enlarges the breasts??? As a former saline breast

implant recipient and victim of silicone toxicity from them, this comment

did more than catch my eye and make me chuckle....I have never heard this

before. I've heard about all the herbs, sure, but not EPO!

If it is true, I sure wish I would have heard it before I paid a very dear

price with my health for those toxic time bombs. Do you have any sources

for verification, or is it just another old wives tale?

Patty

Re: colostrum

> Haha, Donna. If that was common knowledge, men would be

> buying up all the colostrum, just like if women knew that long

> term consumption of Evening Primrose Oil enlarges the breasts,

> they would have that on their " must consume " schedule. I wonder

> how many implants could have been avoided with EPO.

> That big bottle of colostrum on the shelf looks mighty attractive

> right now. Hmmmm.

> God does have a sense of humor, IMO.

> jp

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> Believe me, I don't make up these crazy things. I just

> have a mind to remember trivia, and have been exposed to

> a lot of stuff in the world of nutrition. File this one under B, or

> under S for " side-effects " .

>

> Hi JP,

Or maybe we could file it under BS for Bull Sh#%.....No, I'm just teasing

you now. Actually Patty's story saddened me. So if the EPO works, so be

it. However, it would be even nicer if people were more readily acceptable

of themself just as they are.

Besides the " added " benefit of EPO, I've found it is great for mood swings,

hot flashes, depression, skin, helps reduce high blood pressure and who know

what else. All in all it's a good thing for me anyway.

Gail

>

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> Believe me, I don't make up these crazy things. I just

> have a mind to remember trivia, and have been exposed to

> a lot of stuff in the world of nutrition. File this one under B, or

> under S for " side-effects " .

>

> Hi JP,

Or maybe we could file it under BS for Bull Sh#%.....No, I'm just teasing

you now. Actually Patty's story saddened me. So if the EPO works, so be

it. However, it would be even nicer if people were more readily acceptable

of themself just as they are.

Besides the " added " benefit of EPO, I've found it is great for mood swings,

hot flashes, depression, skin, helps reduce high blood pressure and who know

what else. All in all it's a good thing for me anyway.

Gail

>

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No woman should take EPO just for that reason because it is

so slow acting, but my wife took it as a part of an overall

nutrition program. She says, though, that it is nice to finally have

some breasts. I'd love her if she was bald, breastless and

buttless though.

And wouldn't it be better to take EPO than have implants?

I had a friend in college who formed scar tissue around

hers and had hardening and deformation to a degree.

Now, I think I'll take some colostrum and see if I can look

good in the shower again...

jp

Or maybe we could file it under BS for Bull Sh#%.....No, I'm just teasing

you now. Actually Patty's story saddened me. So if the EPO works, so be

it. However, it would be even nicer if people were more readily acceptable

of themself just as they are.

Besides the " added " benefit of EPO, I've found it is great for mood swings,

hot flashes, depression, skin, helps reduce high blood pressure and who know

what else. All in all it's a good thing for me anyway.

Gail

>

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Actually, it is pretty common knowledge in herb circles. How much has she taken

daily to get the results she got.

Donna

-----Original Message-----

Believe me, I don't make up these crazy things. I just

have a mind to remember trivia, and have been exposed to

a lot of stuff in the world of nutrition. File this one under B, or

under S for " side-effects " .

jp

:o)

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Actually, it is pretty common knowledge in herb circles. How much has she taken

daily to get the results she got.

Donna

-----Original Message-----

Believe me, I don't make up these crazy things. I just

have a mind to remember trivia, and have been exposed to

a lot of stuff in the world of nutrition. File this one under B, or

under S for " side-effects " .

jp

:o)

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Actually, it is pretty common knowledge in herb circles. How much has she taken

daily to get the results she got.

Donna

-----Original Message-----

Believe me, I don't make up these crazy things. I just

have a mind to remember trivia, and have been exposed to

a lot of stuff in the world of nutrition. File this one under B, or

under S for " side-effects " .

jp

:o)

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