Colostrum

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Hi Sandy and Everyone,

Your colostrum experience was very interesting and it will be even more

interesting if your hyper symptoms further abate following cessation of

colostrum.

I looked up colostrum to see if it might have any thyroid stimulating

effects. Both colostrum and milk have measureable levels of the thyroid

hormones, T4 and T3. Apparently after birth, when the baby (all mammals)

leaves the warmth of the mother's uterus and is exposed to the outside air, an

increase in thyroid hormones is necessary to increase the baby's heat

production to maintain body temperature. Colostrum and milk seem to satisfy

this increased need for thyroid hormones, although the amount of T4 and T3 is

not high. One study indicated that the T3 and T4 in colostrum and milk does

not exceed 7% of the baby's daily requirement. But another study indicated T4

and T3 levels in milk are three times the levels in the blood. Another study

indicated that colostrum levels of T3 and T4 are higher than in milk.

Colostrum is considered a stimulant and the presence of thyroid hormones in

colostrum might be the reason. However, I doubt that the levels are enough to

create hyperthyroidism. But they might be enough to put someone over the edge

who already has high thyroid levels.

Colostrum seems to be more of a vehicle to carry hormones from the mother to

the baby rather than as a source of nourishment. Because of the presence of

so many different types of hormones that might be present, then many types of

hormonal stimulation might be occurring.

In light of Sandy's experience and the knowledge that colostrum is primarily

a stimulant, then it would seem very adviseable for hypers and pheos to avoid

it. Hopefully Sandy will report a lessening of her hyper symptoms and we can

add colostrum to the list of supplements not to take.

Special thanks to Sue Engel for the information about colostrum!

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Now I understand why I can't tolerate milk!! I did the allergy test thing

before I knew I had Graves Disease and the only problem that showed up was

dust mites and yet, every time I would drink milk I would break out on my

chin...to make a long story short, Iodine is also present in milk along with

the T3 and T4, I am allergic to Iodine(not a test for this yet) and my free T4

would be way off, the thyriod hormone was dumping into my blood stream and

making the hyper symptoms/storms, and my T3 was too low. Since my ranges are

all normal again, I have noticed if I have any dairy products at all within 24

hours I will have the Graves eye symptoms such as dry, bulged, and painful so

that explains it for me ...thanks!! Sheri Lynn

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I am surprised how much i learn from this group. How do you find out whether

the milk has Iodine?

I live in Australia and I wonder whether our milk is the same as in the US.

, is it possible to have a list of foods which may have iodine?

thanks

> Re: Colostrum

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>

> ,

> Now I understand why I can't tolerate milk!! I did the allergy test thing

> before I knew I had Graves Disease and the only problem that showed up was

> dust mites and yet, every time I would drink milk I would break out on my

> chin...to make a long story short, Iodine is also present in milk

> along with

> the T3 and T4, I am allergic to Iodine(not a test for this yet)

> and my free T4

> would be way off, the thyriod hormone was dumping into my blood stream and

> making the hyper symptoms/storms, and my T3 was too low. Since

> my ranges are

> all normal again, I have noticed if I have any dairy products at

> all within 24

> hours I will have the Graves eye symptoms such as dry, bulged,

> and painful so

> that explains it for me ...thanks!! Sheri Lynn

>

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, it is the iodine the farmers use to clean out the milking machines and

the cows utters that disturbs the milk and affects me as such...I know

shellfish, and fish in general I can't tolerate because of Iodine (sea

creatures) cranberrys, pork, and even toothpaste because of floride being on

the same chemical element scale as iodine made me ill and broke out my chin so

bad it has left scarring. All is normal now and clear since I avoid iodine.

Next step is to remove the mercury fillings, like 12 of them! Sheri Lynn

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Thank you for your info. I would hate to give up all these foods. I am not

sure what i should do yet.

teresa

> Re: Colostrum

>

>

> , it is the iodine the farmers use to clean out the milking

> machines and

> the cows utters that disturbs the milk and affects me as such...I know

> shellfish, and fish in general I can't tolerate because of Iodine (sea

> creatures) cranberrys, pork, and even toothpaste because of

> floride being on

> the same chemical element scale as iodine made me ill and broke

> out my chin so

> bad it has left scarring. All is normal now and clear since I

> avoid iodine.

> Next step is to remove the mercury fillings, like 12 of them! Sheri Lynn

>

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In a message dated 11/13/99 6:43:18 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Anjin327@... writes:

<<

If Colostrum is only made for 24-48 hours ....and New Life takes it to

sell...how does the calf get his colostrum? BTW I am not for or against this

product ...just interested in the answer.

Anjin >>

Maybe the calf gets the first few hours of colstrum.Or maybe they take the

first 24 hours worth,and the calf gets whats left.

[Guest guest]

> If Colostrum is only made for 24-48 hours ....and New Life takes it to

> sell...how does the calf get his colostrum? BTW I am not for or against

this

> product ...just interested in the answer.

> Anjin >>

My dad sells dairy equipment and my inlaws are/were dairy farmers so I have

a *little* knowledge of cows. Around here, the dairy farmers take their

calves away from their mothers so the cows' colostrum would just be sent

into the " milk pool " anyway. The calves are then sold to other farmers who

raise them (my dad is one) until they are big enough to be bred and thus

produce milk, and the cycle continues. The new moms are the " fresh cows "

and are milked right away. I am not sure the calves get any more colostrum

than the first feeding as soon as they're born. If that's the case, the

farmers, if this is the way it's handled anyway, might as well milk the

newly fresh cows separately and get the colostrum separately. It sounds to

me like that's what New Life is doing. They are letting the calves get the

first feeding, then milking the colostrum for sale. Like Anjin, I have no

opinions on this matter, I'm just trying to answer from what little

knowledge I have of this subject.

.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/13/1999 8:43:31 AM Central Standard Time,

Anjin327@... writes:

<< If Colostrum is only made for 24-48 hours ....and New Life takes it to

sell...how does the calf get his colostrum? >>

I've explained this three times now, I won't explain again. You're wasting

my energy. The rest of it, I don't know. I don't remember reading this in

my brochures, but it doesn't mean it wasn't there, it just means I missed it.

Write to the company and ask them.

[Guest guest]

I've been using New Life colostrum by Symbiotics of Sedona, Az.

www.synbiotics.com. I believe it's available at most health food stores.

This is reputed to be 100% Bovine colostrum from New Zealand pasture fed

cows. I pay 29.95 per bottle retailed. 120 capsules, 480 mg. Same price

for powder.

I've used this for about six months as a part of my protocol. I DO NOT

SELL THIS PRODUCT. According to the label, it is low heat pasturized to

insure biological activity, and water soluble.

Rich

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Colostrum

Continuation of Colostrum..

This is from the Research studies, on Nature's Immune Booster's. ( That someone sent to Mel and I, in Mondays postal-mail. And that we said we would gladly read..and pass onto others some of the information. However at this time we are not taking it. And doubtful if we ever do. But will consider looking into it further. My questions are at the bottom of this page for anyone that will like to share on or off the site.

Heart Disease, says that the immune factors in Colostrum could also play the important role in helping us fight the war against heart disease., For one it could be one hidden cause of arteriosclerosis and cardiovascular disease could be very well be alerted immunity. By a report from the American College Cardiology, it was found that a common type of Chlamydia bacteria's was associated with arterial plaque formation in nearly 80 % of patients with heart disease. In the New England Journal of Medicine article, it was found that heart disease was the result of immune sensitization to cardiac antigents. And putting it mildly is that when the heart is damaged, out immune systems begin creating antibodies that can cause a great deal of harm. Colostrum can help this with the ability to tone down the immune system's attack, to an already damaged heart..by revitalizing the immune system..and this product can regenerate the heart muscle.

Autoimmune Diseases.. These are commonly the most server allergic reactions to us humans, known as autoimmune diseases..disorders are, multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis, 's disease, thyroiditis, chrohn's disease, vacuities, and lupus, and are characterized by damage being done to the body by its own immune system..etc..

Cancer.. The benefits are to the immune system and the boosters of colostrum. There is some posting of books by Rosenberg ' Quiet Strides in the War of Cancer', 1985..

The researcher says that the Lactoferrin and lactabumin in colostrum have both been found to kill certain cancer cells. In addition, if cancer is initiated by virus, colostrum could very well be a break through to prevent the disease . Etc.

Yeast Infections..known as Candida Albicans..these irritate mucous surfaces, as well as moist skin,,and using the product can help fight this known yeast problems. In 1990, a report was written in the New York ls of Medicine indicating that Colostrum was effective in controlling and preventing this infection.

Diabetes.Scientists have discovered that the incidence of type 1 ( insulin dependent ) diabetes is more likely to occur in a child, who wither receive no colostrum at birth, or are the least to be breast fed for very long. there has been studies by the European Congress of Sports Medicines in w995, and found that during the short term strength training in 9 male athletes, an increase in IGF-1 occurred with colostrum supplementation..so it is suggest this product be good for those with type 1 diabetics, because IGF-1 can help the body use glucose more efficiently.

Cancer.. This one subject that this list is really all about.. Cancer research has been going on for some time, we all know this..and Rosenberg's Book, mentioned above has been a great success with helping cancer patients by firtually flooding the body with natural immune cells, along with cytokines, uniquely found that the product Colostrum have been the most researched element in the fighting for cancer. That Lactoferrin and Lactalbumin in colostrum have both also been found to kill certain cancer cells. In addition, if cancer is imitated by viruses, then this product might be one way to prevent the disease in the first place.

How is one to use this product..take 1-3 capsules 1/2 hour before or two hours after a meal..or take 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoons of powder in 8 ounces of water or your favored beverage 2 hours after a meal..and for a full effect taken on an empty stomach.

This product can also be used on eczema, acne,inflamed gums, or sores..put on directly on the area needing the infection to cure. And can be made into a paste by using water.

By this report cows are inspected daily, and must be grade A, Under the USDA..and a safe, clean process collects bovine colostrum within six hours after a calf is born..known as " First Milking " ,,then after it is collected it is filtered, homogenized, and then spray-dried into powder, making it ready to consume for us to use..

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[Guest guest]

wrote:

> Has anyone taking colsotrum for cfs? Ha it worked?

yes, a *lot* of very expensive stuff too! Nope, not a bit.

Judith

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I think I'm the " exception rather than the rule " but I had a severe adverse

reaction to Colostrum. One hour after taking it I went from working

full-time with CFS to being completely homebound. 5 months later and I

haven't recovered! But that's just me... everyone's different. I think my

body rejected it for some reason. Either way, I " m not a big fan. ;-)

Laurel

[Guest guest]

---Judith are you saying it did not help? My friends

friend had MS and she sdaid since she started taking

that shes felt the best ever thats why i asked if

anyone else has had good results with this? Judith

Gilbert <jaegilbert@...> wrote:

> wrote:

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> > Has anyone taking colsotrum for cfs? Ha it

> worked?

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> yes, a *lot* of very expensive stuff too! Nope, not

> a bit.

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> Judith

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What brand of colostrum did you take??????

Carole

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I take it in the morning with my Imuplus and find it gives me more energy

and than Imuplus alone. I feel better when I take it than when I don't.

Cindi

" Judith Gilbert " <jaegilbert@...>

10/05/00 10:45 AM

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> Has anyone taking colsotrum for cfs? Ha it worked?

yes, a *lot* of very expensive stuff too! Nope, not a bit.

Judith

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other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

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Have you tried the 560Transfer factor that Dr. Brewer is recommending?

Carole

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---I started taking New Life Colostrum about 3 weeks

ago. By Symbiotics Its 100% Bovine Colostrum from

New Zealand. C3814@... wrote:

> What brand of colostrum did you take??????

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> Carole

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[Guest guest]

How could just taking a product make you that sick?

Could it be detox reactions?

--- Sunyata27@... wrote:

> I think I'm the " exception rather than the rule " but

> I had a severe adverse

> reaction to Colostrum. One hour after taking it I

> went from working

> full-time with CFS to being completely homebound. 5

> months later and I

> haven't recovered! But that's just me... everyone's

> different. I think my

> body rejected it for some reason. Either way, I " m

> not a big fan. ;-)

> Laurel

>

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I heared that it should be the one from New Zealand is

this true?

--- canderson@... wrote:

> I take it in the morning with my Imuplus and find it

> gives me more energy

> and than Imuplus alone. I feel better when I take

> it than when I don't.

> Cindi

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> " Judith Gilbert " <jaegilbert@...>

> 10/05/00 10:45 AM

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> > Has anyone taking colsotrum for cfs? Ha it

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> a bit.

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> Judith

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Can you please explain what that is? thanks

--- C3814@... wrote:

> Have you tried the 560Transfer factor that Dr.

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> Carole

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[Guest guest]

<< ---I started taking New Life Colostrum about 3 weeks

ago. By Symbiotics Its 100% Bovine Colostrum from

New Zealand. >>

That is the same brand I reacted so badly to.

[Guest guest]

Mine happens to be, but it was a coincidence. The ad came in the mail and

I decided to try it before I started reading about it here.

C

michelle cervera <cuteangel54321@...>

10/05/00 07:10 PM

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I heared that it should be the one from New Zealand is

this true?

--- canderson@... wrote:

> I take it in the morning with my Imuplus and find it

> gives me more energy

> and than Imuplus alone. I feel better when I take

> it than when I don't.

> Cindi

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> " Judith Gilbert " <jaegilbert@...>

> 10/05/00 10:45 AM

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> wrote:

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> > Has anyone taking colsotrum for cfs? Ha it

> worked?

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> yes, a *lot* of very expensive stuff too! Nope, not

> a bit.

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> Judith

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> This list is intended for patients to share personal

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[Guest guest]

I take Allergy Research Groups colostrum (called Cytolog) x 2 a day, six

sprays sublingually then swallow it. It has cleared up IBS symptoms and

made me regular.

> Has anyone taking colsotrum for cfs? Ha it worked?

[Guest guest]

Cytolog is a info-peptide that is different from colostrum.

Al

Re: colostrum

> I take Allergy Research Groups colostrum (called Cytolog) x 2 a day, six

> sprays sublingually then swallow it. It has cleared up IBS symptoms and

> made me regular.

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> > Has anyone taking colsotrum for cfs? Ha it worked?

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> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

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discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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