ITCHING

[Guest guest]

Yes, it can be allergies. I had itching until I started my allergy shots.

This is a dead give away and my allergist said this is a response. I would

start allergy shots again. Your system changes according to my dr and you

may be allergic again.

sarah

Re: [ ] Re: Itching

>

> I am allergic to many pollens, Rag weed, cat dander (given up on

> having animals) and doctor says about every plant here (I rarely go out

> for this reason anymore and no longer have indoor plants). I have been

> taking benadryl by the load. I have had many allergy shots too. I am on

> antibiotics now and man it still isn't helping...I'm on amoxocillan and

> (Biaxin off and on). I am also taking some steroids to try and help (I

> know bad for the Lyme but honestly it has helped some of the itching in

> the past but isn't working so far). I however have not tried Diflucan

> (might ask the doc about this).. Could this be neurological...where it

> seems to be in the nerves. I seem to have tried every cream out

> there...My doctor has tried many things and is almost at a loss. I have

> noticed many times when I itch my skin becomes very hot and flushed and

> sometimes even before the scratching (but I am also having trouble being

> cold all the time..my feet and hands..does this make sense to

> anyone..lol)...has anyone ever had this happen? My face is now all red.

> One reason why I consider it still could be my allergies. I have noticed

> also at times it seems like someone is grabbing my lungs from both sides

> and squeezing them together. I was worried about severe allergies for

> this reason. Even though it feels this way I still breath just

> fine..just feels uncomfortable. I guess maybe I should get a second

> opinion. I will mention the Diflucan to the doctor. I am reasonably

> sure that it is the Lyme Disease. My knees both are flaring up too...my

> left leg is always swollen.

>

> Thanks,

> Cyntha

>

>

> For up to date information about Lyme disease and the known co-infections

> delivered to your email address see:

> Robynns_Lyme_List/

>

>

[Guest guest]

Cyntha,

Some of your symptoms sound like hypothyroidism: allergies getting

worse, being cold all the time, shortness of breath, even the

itching can be a symptom of thyroid problems. Has your doctor tested

your thyroid?

Jessie

>

>

> I am allergic to many pollens, Rag weed, cat dander (given

up on

> having animals) and doctor says about every plant here (I rarely

go out

> for this reason anymore and no longer have indoor plants). I have

been

> taking benadryl by the load. I have had many allergy shots too. I

am on

> antibiotics now and man it still isn't helping...I'm on

amoxocillan and

> (Biaxin off and on). I am also taking some steroids to try and

help (I

> know bad for the Lyme but honestly it has helped some of the

itching in

> the past but isn't working so far). I however have not tried

Diflucan

> (might ask the doc about this).. Could this be

neurological...where it

> seems to be in the nerves. I seem to have tried every cream out

> there...My doctor has tried many things and is almost at a loss.

I have

> noticed many times when I itch my skin becomes very hot and

flushed and

> sometimes even before the scratching (but I am also having trouble

being

> cold all the time..my feet and hands..does this make sense to

> anyone..lol)...has anyone ever had this happen? My face is now

all red.

> One reason why I consider it still could be my allergies. I have

noticed

> also at times it seems like someone is grabbing my lungs from both

sides

> and squeezing them together. I was worried about severe

allergies for

> this reason. Even though it feels this way I still breath just

> fine..just feels uncomfortable. I guess maybe I should get a

second

> opinion. I will mention the Diflucan to the doctor. I am

reasonably

> sure that it is the Lyme Disease. My knees both are flaring up

too...my

> left leg is always swollen.

>

> Thanks,

> Cyntha

>

[Guest guest]

My husband had the worst part of itching so far between the two of

us (mine's low grade off/on- more a nuisance than driving me crazy).

He tried aloe vera externally (stuff you use for sunburn), coconut

oil, anti-fungal ointment, antibacterial ointment, Epsom salt baths

followed with coconut oil. All helped a little. He also on his arms

( but nowhere else) used rubbing alcohol-said it burned like you

know what, BUT he began to get some relief after this. Now I'm not

recommending the alcohol, but this is what he did. I'd called to our

LLMD and they called up an Rx for Prednisone, but we never had to

use it. I used Benadryl once and it seemed to help some for me.

For myself if it gets to really bothering I take a long Epsom salt

bath, followed with coconut oil and then each day after my shower

apply coconut oil or aloe vera. It seems to keep it at bay- not

totally gone, but tolerable.

Husband had had rash and itching for 6 months, mine has been for 2

so far. His actual rash is basically gone, itching just a bit.

If you're to the point of open sores- I would think you may have

bacterial infection in them also.

Hope this helps

Rose Marie

>

> Okay I know there has been recent talk on this subject but I

haven't been

> on line forever and many of my e-mail have gotten erased. So

Please bear

> with me.

>

> I am literally going insane. I itch all the time and would

welcome any

> advice on taking care of it. I have tried many things that the

doctors

> have asked me to do. They are now saying they can't do anything

to help

> me. Am I doomed to live this way forever, I would rather die than

live

> this way. Nothing is working. I literally itch all the time and

am

> getting no sleep because of this. My moods are bad. I know it

has to do

> with the itching. This itching is so deep down I can't really dig

at it,

> it seems to be in my nerves. I mean I am literally digging. I am

> getting open sores from the scratching. I am in tears all the

time. I

> can handle pain cause I can do something about it but this itching

I

> can't. I have tried hot baths, creams, baking soda, etc. Is there

> something I haven't tried that might help. My face is so red from

> scratching. The places I have the worst time is behind my knee,

face,

> arm pits, feet (and even my incision area from surgery on Dec. 28

to

> remove my left ovary because of large cyst, that is to be expected

> though)and top of head. Is there something that the doctors might

of

> overlooked or is this all Lyme related. My husband is getting

tired of

> scratching for me too. I beg for help. Who knows what I will do

if I

> can't get it under control. I need some sleep. I am getting

severe

> depression from the itching alone if you know what I mean. Any

help

> would be appreciated. I am desperate.

>

> Cyntha

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cyntha,

Could you give a little more background on the history of itching? When

did it start? Can you trace it back to anything? Are you on antibiotics

for Lyme and perhaps you are allergic to them? Whenever I take Ketek I

go into itching fits so the dr said I can never take it again.

Do you take antihistamines? Zyrtec is best I've taken and helps me

survive the daily exposures to things I am allergic to like latex. I'm

not a doctor and I am going out on a limb here, but is there any chance

you could be allergic to latex? The way most people find out is by

going to dentist and getting itchy, numbness or tingling around mouth

or a redded ring around the mouth. Anything like that ever happened? Do

you have a job that exposes you to latex constantly? That's how I ended

up with the fullblown allergy. I wouldn't even suggest this to you

except the itching you describe is the way I respond if I consume or

even come in contact with bananas. Bananas have similar protein to

latex and are a cross reactive. I actually react worse to bananas than

to latex gloves now. I have gone into such severe itching fits that

took 2 zyrtec & 4 doses of benedryl to stop it. Anyone looking on would

have thought I was having a convulsion.

Try to look at what you are doing and see if something is spawning the

itching bouts. Have you changed soaps, shampoos, dish detergents,

laundry detergents or lotions? Have you introduced a new pet into home?

To calm the itching I would ask your dr about Zyrtec, but I would avoid

things like prednisone because if you have Lyme it will make it worse

even though it might help the itching. Could be the whole thing is Lyme

caused, but I would try to eliminate other possible causes first.

Things like Aveeno oatmeal bath powder can calm irritated skin, Gold

Bond powder is soothing on some rashes I get. To cleanse sensitive skin

Cetaphil is the excellent. My dermatologist told me to always use that

on my face and if I am having a bad skin day I use it to bathe all over

with.

Just another thought if I stop Zyrtec I go into major itching fits.

Have you stopped any longer term allergy meds?

Hope you are feeling better soon.

>

> I am literally going insane. I itch all the time and would welcome

any

> advice on taking care of it. I have tried many things that the

doctors

> have asked me to do. They are now saying they can't do anything to

help

> me. Am I doomed to live this way forever, I would rather die than

live

> this way. Nothing is working. I literally itch all the time and am

> getting no sleep because of this. > Cyntha

>

[Guest guest]

I would try a antihistamine. Have you asked your doctor about the

itching? I get really dry skin and itch like that. Sometimes when

I'm herxing really bad I get really itchy and feel like I have pins

pricking my skin.

Good luck!!

Kathy

>

> Okay I know there has been recent talk on this subject but I

haven't been

> on line forever and many of my e-mail have gotten erased. So

Please bear

> with me.

>

> I am literally going insane. I itch all the time and would

welcome any

> advice on taking care of it. I have tried many things that the

doctors

> have asked me to do. They are now saying they can't do anything

to help

> me. Am I doomed to live this way forever, I would rather die than

live

> this way. Nothing is working. I literally itch all the time and

am

> getting no sleep because of this. My moods are bad. I know it

has to do

> with the itching. This itching is so deep down I can't really dig

at it,

> it seems to be in my nerves. I mean I am literally digging. I am

> getting open sores from the scratching. I am in tears all the

time. I

> can handle pain cause I can do something about it but this itching

I

> can't. I have tried hot baths, creams, baking soda, etc. Is there

> something I haven't tried that might help. My face is so red from

> scratching. The places I have the worst time is behind my knee,

face,

> arm pits, feet (and even my incision area from surgery on Dec. 28

to

> remove my left ovary because of large cyst, that is to be expected

> though)and top of head. Is there something that the doctors might

of

> overlooked or is this all Lyme related. My husband is getting

tired of

> scratching for me too. I beg for help. Who knows what I will do

if I

> can't get it under control. I need some sleep. I am getting

severe

> depression from the itching alone if you know what I mean. Any

help

> would be appreciated. I am desperate.

>

> Cyntha

>

[Guest guest]

This very well could be. I have had high liver enzymes for a

while..though milk thistle seems to help...I have had to go off of it

though because of my allergies to rag weed....so I will mention the liver

cleansing. Someone also mentioned Hypothyroidism...well I 've got that

too...sounds like it could be a combination of many things. I have been

diagnosed also with Graves Disease. lol..I'm a mess. I am still itching

like crazy today...it really hasn't gone down but at least my spirits are

higher...I did manage to fall asleep for awhile last night...I think I

was so exhausted that my body just finally shut down for awhile despite

the itching. I am going to ask the doctor about all of your

suggestions....I do know it isn't dry skin..I've ruled that one

out...been using oils and lotions like crazy. Thanks for all of your

advice.

Cyntha

[Guest guest]

Hi ,,

Have you been tested for Bartonella? It is a demyelinating co-

infection of the lyme disease. It will give you symptoms similar to

the ones you are describing, It is neurological in nature.

You may also have hyperactive startle reflex,tremors, unusually

wrinkled skin, calloused hands, feet and an undermining rash. The

rash may or may not be visible at first then it will form a pattern

similar to ring worm or stretch marks in places that have no

business being wrinkled : o

Your face may seem to have roseaca (sp) and you may even feel

a " creepy crawly " sensation all over at times.

If you have not been tested by a LLMD at a reputable clinic then I

will suggest that you get tested right away.

I am sending you a prayer for your well being, let me know if I can

help in any way,

Best Regards,

>

>

> I am allergic to many pollens, Rag weed, cat dander (given

up on

> having animals) and doctor says about every plant here (I rarely

go out

> for this reason anymore and no longer have indoor plants). I have

been

> taking benadryl by the load. I have had many allergy shots too. I

am on

> antibiotics now and man it still isn't helping...I'm on

amoxocillan and

> (Biaxin off and on). I am also taking some steroids to try and

help (I

> know bad for the Lyme but honestly it has helped some of the

itching in

> the past but isn't working so far). I however have not tried

Diflucan

> (might ask the doc about this).. Could this be

neurological...where it

> seems to be in the nerves. I seem to have tried every cream out

> there...My doctor has tried many things and is almost at a loss.

I have

> noticed many times when I itch my skin becomes very hot and

flushed and

> sometimes even before the scratching (but I am also having trouble

being

> cold all the time..my feet and hands..does this make sense to

> anyone..lol)...has anyone ever had this happen? My face is now

all red.

> One reason why I consider it still could be my allergies. I have

noticed

> also at times it seems like someone is grabbing my lungs from both

sides

> and squeezing them together. I was worried about severe

allergies for

> this reason. Even though it feels this way I still breath just

> fine..just feels uncomfortable. I guess maybe I should get a

second

> opinion. I will mention the Diflucan to the doctor. I am

reasonably

> sure that it is the Lyme Disease. My knees both are flaring up

too...my

> left leg is always swollen.

>

> Thanks,

> Cyntha

>

[Guest guest]

I have actually had an itching problem for quite a while now for

years..but never this severe. It has started really bad for the last

three weeks. I have had other times where it got pretty bad but have

always been able to control it to a certain degree...I have always been

prone to itching. It sure was a pain also around when I had my

surgery...which is when it got really bad but for the life of me can't

figure out why that would cause it...unless it is the stress of the

surgery and other conditions worsening because of it (or medications they

may have given me. (I had my left ovary removed because of a large cyst

just a little bigger than baseball size). Besides the Lyme Disease I

have been diagnosed with Graves Disease (tends to be hypo), Insulin

Resistance, Sleep Apnea, High Cholesterol, Chronic Sinus Infections,

GERDS, the list goes on. I am on Amoxicillan right now but have also

been taking Biaxin off and on. I have also been having allergy shots for

all my allergies. I do have sensitivity to Latex and certain tapes...not

severely but enough to drive my skin nuts...I have tried Zyrtec, doesn't

work, benadryl isn't help...anti itch creams are not helping. I have

tried hot baths, cold baths..cold icepacks and so forth...but I do have

to say I have not tried the oatmeal baths and am intrigued by this, it is

definitely worth a try. I like the idea of cleansing the liver too

because I have high liver enzymes problems. I will also be testing my

thyroid again to see I need to higher my dose of Levothyroxine. I have

also tried to think of other new medications I might have changed to

recently. I have also tried to watch what I wear since some materials

seem to bother me more than others...You guys have been such a great

help. Even though I haven't got the itching under control it sure helps

to hear of others experiences. Makes you feel not quite so alone.

thanks again,

Cyntha

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:41:02 -0000 " wtptoo " <wtptoo@...> writes:

> Hi Cyntha,

>

> Could you give a little more background on the history of itching?

> When

> did it start? Can you trace it back to anything? Are you on

> antibiotics

> for Lyme and perhaps you are allergic to them? Whenever I take Ketek

> I

> go into itching fits so the dr said I can never take it again.

>

> Do you take antihistamines? Zyrtec is best I've taken and helps me

> survive the daily exposures to things I am allergic to like latex.

> I'm

> not a doctor and I am going out on a limb here, but is there any

> chance

> you could be allergic to latex? The way most people find out is by

> going to dentist and getting itchy, numbness or tingling around

> mouth

> or a redded ring around the mouth. Anything like that ever happened?

> Do

> you have a job that exposes you to latex constantly? That's how I

> ended

> up with the fullblown allergy. I wouldn't even suggest this to you

> except the itching you describe is the way I respond if I consume or

>

> even come in contact with bananas. Bananas have similar protein to

> latex and are a cross reactive. I actually react worse to bananas

> than

> to latex gloves now. I have gone into such severe itching fits that

>

> took 2 zyrtec & 4 doses of benedryl to stop it. Anyone looking on

> would

> have thought I was having a convulsion.

>

> Try to look at what you are doing and see if something is spawning

> the

> itching bouts. Have you changed soaps, shampoos, dish detergents,

> laundry detergents or lotions? Have you introduced a new pet into

> home?

> To calm the itching I would ask your dr about Zyrtec, but I would

> avoid

> things like prednisone because if you have Lyme it will make it

> worse

> even though it might help the itching. Could be the whole thing is

> Lyme

> caused, but I would try to eliminate other possible causes first.

> Things like Aveeno oatmeal bath powder can calm irritated skin, Gold

>

> Bond powder is soothing on some rashes I get. To cleanse sensitive

> skin

> Cetaphil is the excellent. My dermatologist told me to always use

> that

> on my face and if I am having a bad skin day I use it to bathe all

> over

> with.

>

> Just another thought if I stop Zyrtec I go into major itching fits.

>

> Have you stopped any longer term allergy meds?

>

> Hope you are feeling better soon.

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I am literally going insane. I itch all the time and would

> welcome

> any

> > advice on taking care of it. I have tried many things that the

> doctors

> > have asked me to do. They are now saying they can't do anything

> to

> help

> > me. Am I doomed to live this way forever, I would rather die than

>

> live

> > this way. Nothing is working. I literally itch all the time and

> am

> > getting no sleep because of this. > Cyntha

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For up to date information about Lyme disease and the known

> co-infections

> delivered to your email address see:

> Robynns_Lyme_List/

>

>

[Guest guest]

Are you treating your thyroid condition? I had really bad skin

problems too before I got my thyroid problems treated. Really dry

itchy skin that no lotion, salve or ointment could clear up. I have

hashimoto's and hypothroidism. I am now on synthroid, and after

several months on the synthroid most of my skin problems cleared up.

Kathy

>

>

> This very well could be. I have had high liver enzymes for a

> while..though milk thistle seems to help...I have had to go off of

it

> though because of my allergies to rag weed....so I will mention

the liver

> cleansing. Someone also mentioned Hypothyroidism...well I 've got

that

> too...sounds like it could be a combination of many things. I

have been

> diagnosed also with Graves Disease. lol..I'm a mess. I am still

itching

> like crazy today...it really hasn't gone down but at least my

spirits are

> higher...I did manage to fall asleep for awhile last night...I

think I

> was so exhausted that my body just finally shut down for awhile

despite

> the itching. I am going to ask the doctor about all of your

> suggestions....I do know it isn't dry skin..I've ruled that one

> out...been using oils and lotions like crazy. Thanks for all of

your

> advice.

>

> Cyntha

>

[Guest guest]

Cyntha,

I have hypothyroidism too but can't say that it ever caused itching for

me, though it is known to cause dry skin which in turn can cause

itching. But when is the last time you have your thyroid evaluated? I

believe the Levothyroxine you are on is only T4. A lot of women are not

good converters and really do better on T3 & T4. Many patients feel

better on natural instead of synthetic hormone replacement so they take

Armour thyroid, Westhroid or Naturethroid (all prescription). I was on

Armour for a couple years then switched over to Naturethroid which has

been around since 1945 though few people have ever heard of it. It was

developed for people with corn and dye allergies and is called the

hypoallergenic thyroid med. It contains T1, T2, T3 & T4 just like

Armour, but I seem to absorb or assimulate it better. I told my friend

about it and she is doing better since her dr switched her over to it.

I have seen on other lists a number of people on synthetic T4 that

still seem to have all the old thyroid symptoms despite treatment. So

it seems that may not be the right option for a number of people.

Perhaps you should talk to your dr about reevaluating you thyroid

condition.

I'm thinking you said in another post that you have hypothyroid but

then you mentioned Graves Disease. Isn't that hyperthyroidism? If so

that sounds more like Hashimotos if you are hypo and hyper at times.

That is an autoimmunity problem and is a whole other can of worms. Have

you ever been tested for thyroid antibodies or ANA antibodies?

I have

> tried hot baths, cold baths..cold icepacks and so forth...but I do

have

> to say I have not tried the oatmeal baths and am intrigued by this,

it is

> definitely worth a try. I like the idea of cleansing the liver too

> because I have high liver enzymes problems. I will also be testing my

> thyroid again to see I need to higher my dose of Levothyroxine. >

Cyntha

>

[Guest guest]

Yes Graves is Hyperthyroid per say...but I had my thyroid

radiated...killed to a certain degree you could say which has caused my

thyroid to go Hypo. They never did tell me if the Graves is gone or

not....don't know if that happens...In 1999 I was diagnosed with

Hoshimoto's...but I guess sometimes with thyroid problems they can go

from one degree to another at least from what I understand. I am sure

learning lots though....I didn't know there were other medications...This

has been a great help...I will definitely talk to my doctor about that

one. I can usually tell when my skin is dry...it does not appear to

be..I have had that problem in the past. I think it could be a

combination of a whole bunch of things...but my got instinct tells me it

could be allergies (despite the shots and benadryl) and I do think that

Lyme disease is the biggest culprit. I think that is where my doctor is

frustrated. He tells me honestly he doesn't know much about Lyme..I am

hoping to train him and he seems to be willing. He just started at the

office a couple months ago so I have only seen him once. He said he

didn't honestly know what to do for the itching since we have tried many

things. I again didn't sleep last night but have decided to keep the

spirits high...stayed up and watched Police Academy on TV forgot how

funny it was. So that of course really kept the laughter going...been

watching lots of comedy lately trying to keep from getting depressed.

Seems to be helping...I may have to start seeing my LLMD that I had in PA

again....don't really want to travel that far now that I am back in Idaho

but it may have to be done...would rather go with someone I trust.

Thanks everyone,

Lol...I think we have about exhausted this topic....thanks again for all

the advice.

Cyntha

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:50:46 -0000 " wtptoo " <wtptoo@...> writes:

> Cyntha,

>

> I have hypothyroidism too but can't say that it ever caused itching

> for

> me, though it is known to cause dry skin which in turn can cause

> itching. But when is the last time you have your thyroid evaluated?

> I

> believe the Levothyroxine you are on is only T4. A lot of women are

> not

> good converters and really do better on T3 & T4. Many patients feel

>

> better on natural instead of synthetic hormone replacement so they

> take

> Armour thyroid, Westhroid or Naturethroid (all prescription). I was

> on

> Armour for a couple years then switched over to Naturethroid which

> has

> been around since 1945 though few people have ever heard of it. It

> was

> developed for people with corn and dye allergies and is called the

> hypoallergenic thyroid med. It contains T1, T2, T3 & T4 just like

> Armour, but I seem to absorb or assimulate it better. I told my

> friend

> about it and she is doing better since her dr switched her over to

> it.

> I have seen on other lists a number of people on synthetic T4 that

> still seem to have all the old thyroid symptoms despite treatment.

> So

> it seems that may not be the right option for a number of people.

> Perhaps you should talk to your dr about reevaluating you thyroid

> condition.

>

> I'm thinking you said in another post that you have hypothyroid but

>

> then you mentioned Graves Disease. Isn't that hyperthyroidism? If so

>

> that sounds more like Hashimotos if you are hypo and hyper at times.

>

> That is an autoimmunity problem and is a whole other can of worms.

> Have

> you ever been tested for thyroid antibodies or ANA antibodies?

>

>

>

>

>

> I have

> > tried hot baths, cold baths..cold icepacks and so forth...but I do

>

> have

> > to say I have not tried the oatmeal baths and am intrigued by

> this,

> it is

> > definitely worth a try. I like the idea of cleansing the liver

> too

> > because I have high liver enzymes problems. I will also be

> testing my

> > thyroid again to see I need to higher my dose of Levothyroxine. >

>

> Cyntha

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For up to date information about Lyme disease and the known

> co-infections

> delivered to your email address see:

> Robynns_Lyme_List/

>

>

[Guest guest]

If your liver enzymes are up, in my very humble opinion- possibly

your liver isn't clearing the toxins. I've never done a liver

cleanse, but possibly look into this- but read about it alot before

you jump in. I've seen Hulda e (google it- think I spelled it

right) mentioned in this regard before- but I've never done any of

this... just a thought, but wondered about this for you.

In regard to the GERD, a lady had written to me that her mother in

law is much better after taking digestive enzymes for this

condition. I take these (and they do help), but again I've really

never had this Gerd at all.

Rose Marie

>

> I have actually had an itching problem for quite a while now for

> years..but never this severe. It has started really bad for the

last

> three weeks. I have had other times where it got pretty bad but

have

> always been able to control it to a certain degree...I have always

been

> prone to itching. It sure was a pain also around when I had my

> surgery...which is when it got really bad but for the life of me

can't

> figure out why that would cause it...unless it is the stress of the

> surgery and other conditions worsening because of it (or

medications they

> may have given me. (I had my left ovary removed because of a

large cyst

> just a little bigger than baseball size). Besides the Lyme

Disease I

> have been diagnosed with Graves Disease (tends to be hypo), Insulin

> Resistance, Sleep Apnea, High Cholesterol, Chronic Sinus

Infections,

> GERDS, the list goes on. I am on Amoxicillan right now but have

also

> been taking Biaxin off and on. I have also been having allergy

shots for

> all my allergies. I do have sensitivity to Latex and certain

tapes...not

> severely but enough to drive my skin nuts...I have tried Zyrtec,

doesn't

> work, benadryl isn't help...anti itch creams are not helping. I

have

> tried hot baths, cold baths..cold icepacks and so forth...but I do

have

> to say I have not tried the oatmeal baths and am intrigued by

this, it is

> definitely worth a try. I like the idea of cleansing the liver too

> because I have high liver enzymes problems. I will also be

testing my

> thyroid again to see I need to higher my dose of Levothyroxine. I

have

> also tried to think of other new medications I might have changed

to

> recently. I have also tried to watch what I wear since some

materials

> seem to bother me more than others...You guys have been such a

great

> help. Even though I haven't got the itching under control it sure

helps

> to hear of others experiences. Makes you feel not quite so alone.

>

> thanks again,

> Cyntha

>

[Guest guest]

I have to second what has said about natural thyroid. My

thyroid symptoms didn't start to subside until I was on Armour

Thyroid for over 6 weeks. I switched to a generic version and within

a month I was so fatigued I could barely get out of bed. I switched

back and within a month I felt much better.

Lyme can affect your thyroid, so if you haven't been checked

recently, it would be a good idea to check again. And if your doctor

relies only on TSH, ask that he/she also check free T4.

If your itching is the result of multiple causes, it may take trying

lots of things to get it to subside.

Jessie

>

> Cyntha,

>

> I have hypothyroidism too but can't say that it ever caused

itching for

> me, though it is known to cause dry skin which in turn can cause

> itching. But when is the last time you have your thyroid

evaluated? I

> believe the Levothyroxine you are on is only T4. A lot of women

are not

> good converters and really do better on T3 & T4. Many patients

feel

> better on natural instead of synthetic hormone replacement so they

take

> Armour thyroid, Westhroid or Naturethroid (all prescription). I

was on

> Armour for a couple years then switched over to Naturethroid which

has

> been around since 1945 though few people have ever heard of it. It

was

> developed for people with corn and dye allergies and is called the

> hypoallergenic thyroid med. It contains T1, T2, T3 & T4 just like

> Armour, but I seem to absorb or assimulate it better. I told my

friend

> about it and she is doing better since her dr switched her over to

it.

> I have seen on other lists a number of people on synthetic T4 that

> still seem to have all the old thyroid symptoms despite treatment.

So

> it seems that may not be the right option for a number of people.

> Perhaps you should talk to your dr about reevaluating you thyroid

> condition.

>

> I'm thinking you said in another post that you have hypothyroid

but

> then you mentioned Graves Disease. Isn't that hyperthyroidism? If

so

> that sounds more like Hashimotos if you are hypo and hyper at

times.

> That is an autoimmunity problem and is a whole other can of worms.

Have

> you ever been tested for thyroid antibodies or ANA antibodies?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

I hope Bee doesn't mind if I jump in here with a suggestion (Hi Bee!).

I have been suffering from itching and painful hives for a few years and can

appreciate how debilitating they can be.

Two things have helped me immensely - 500 mg of Quercetin taken three times a

day (recommended by my naturopath). Available at any health food store.

And Pau d'arco tea. Usually, if I break out in a hive, if I drink some pau

d'arco tea, relief soon arrives.

(Pau d'arco cleanses the blood)

Try either - or both.

Hope you find some relief soon.

[ ] ITCHING

I understand about coconut oil and cravings. What I dont understand is

what to do about this itching that is keeping me from sleeping. What

to do about it,it has been with me for 3 months,I can get it to calm

down but then I have to stop eating coconut oil and salt, lemon juice.

Skin brushing I am doing.

Staying away from fruit.

I can eat cooked meat between meals and that is good.Everything is

cooked,no raw.Feels like I am goingnuts with this itching. at one

minute it is crawling,then thenext it aches,then it is intense itching,

Red splotchy skin and their is nothing I can do? How much longer?

[Guest guest]

,

I am using oil of oregano for my itchy legs, and the eczema I get on my arms

as well. Also it works in the groin area too, it stings a bit at first but

anything that alleviates the itch, I make myself tolerate.

Shirley G.

>How can I heal when the itching is so intense.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Penny. It's good to hear from you.

Hugs, Bee

>

> Hi

>

> I hope Bee doesn't mind if I jump in here with a suggestion (Hi

Bee!).

>

> I have been suffering from itching and painful hives for a few

years and can appreciate how debilitating they can be.

>

> Two things have helped me immensely - 500 mg of Quercetin taken

three times a day (recommended by my naturopath). Available at any

health food store.

>

> And Pau d'arco tea. Usually, if I break out in a hive, if I drink

some pau d'arco tea, relief soon arrives.

> (Pau d'arco cleanses the blood)

>

> Try either - or both.

[Guest guest]

,

The itching means the coconut oil is doing its job. Itching is one of the

many possible die-off symptoms.

I know only too well how uncomfortable it is because I itched for about two

hours the other night. As soon as my friends who were visiting left I dry

brushed, took a shower, scrubbed with the sea salt, rinsed with cool water, then

moisturized with, of all things, coconut oil. You'd be amazed at how well that

works!

I live in an ADA apt. and don't have a tub but if you do you could take an

Epsom salt bath, then moisturize.

If you are afraid to moisturize with coconut oil use olive. You just rub it

between your hands like you would baby oil, then apply to your skin.

Ellen

[ ] itching

I started to use 1/4 tsp of coconut oilt yesterday and today and have

the itching back. I stopped the fruit and flax.

[Guest guest]

am,

My name is Glenn and I was on the treatment last year for 36 grueling weeks. I

believe I encountered most of the symptoms.

I went back to an e-mail I posted here. Here is what I wrote then about my

itching:

Glenn <miamiman33133@...>

wrote: I'm on Peg-Intron & 1000 mg

of Riba a day. I never spend more than 15 minute outside. The sun

for me is so brutal right now. Here are a few things I did that

helped; using Aveeno oatmeal bar soap to bathe with (no fragrance),

Shampoo, again the Aveeno baby shampoo. Soap to wash your clothes, I

change to hypoallergenic soap. Your skin is very sensitive to

alcohols and fragrances. I also stop using colon or perfumes.

Deodorant....if you look on the ingredient and it says aluminum's,

alcohol or fragrances and it may be effecting you. I went to GNC and

picked up there deodorant crystal.

>

> I developed a terrible itch that I endured for 5 weeks. For

those 5 weeks I was consuming more than the recommended amount of

Benadryl. It help some, but eventually a dermatologist gave me two

scripts. Here they are just so you know what is working for

me.Zyrtec in the am and Doxepin when I go to bed. If your itching

last more than a few days do as I did and insist that your hep

doctor refer you to a dermatologist immediately.

>

> What geno-type are you and how long have you been on the tx?

>

> Glenn L.

That's what I wrote last year in October. The Zyrtec are pills and the Doxepin

is a cream. I was itching everywhere. So I spread that cream on sq.inch of my

body. The itching was really weird. My Eye lids, nostrils and my ear cavity. The

cream worked IMMEDIATELY. Over all, it provided 95%relieve. Very little itching

after that.

I was geno type 3a with viral load of 2.5 million. Well I was on the tx last

yr as I said, well here it is 7 months after my tx is over and my viral level in

UNDETECTABLE. My Dr. considers me cured.

Tell us about your treatment. please go into some detail. We all benefit from

each others situation.

You are in my prayers. I will light a dozen candle for everyone and ask that

the monsieur to offer the mass to my hep brothers and sisters with there tx as

he help me.

God Bless,

Glenn / Miami

am Iman <anettexandria@...> wrote:

I am so frustrated! I am itching, but not jaundiced...does anyone know

what can be causing this? Please help!

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[Guest guest]

am,

Itching is a symptom of the liver disease. I don't know why. BUT I have found

a lotion that you can buy in the medicated lotion section of the drugstore,

Walmart is where I get it. It is called SARNA, it comes in regular and sensitive

skin. I have found nothing better to stop the itching. I use it when I get out

of the shower and it works great. Try it.

God Bless,

Tricia

am Iman <anettexandria@...> wrote:

I am so frustrated! I am itching, but not jaundiced...does anyone know

what can be causing this? Please help!

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[Guest guest]

>

> I am so frustrated! I am itching, but not jaundiced...does anyone

know

> what can be causing this? Please help!

>

To ann; I do not know the cause of the itching, I think it is a

symptom of the disease.It can also be a reaction to the medication.

[Guest guest]

could be that your viral load if elevated......my itching started about

2.5 million.....worse when I was at 13.2 million.......no matter what,

how many cream I used....oatmeal soap (YARDLEYS) helps with drying

the.....and i assuming you have psoriasis as well...........treatment

is the only way that is the only way that i have had any relief to the

itching......while still there....is not as bad and it's easily more of

a relief.....good luck.........I was told it was the toxins that your

liver is not clearing out normally (your billirubin levels) on your

labs ih high, would do otherwise.....hope this helps....ask you liver

doc about it....don't take my word on it.......I am merely passing

along what i was told......good luck I know it's maddening...

[Guest guest]

Itching as a result of excess histamine, can be helped with many OTC allergy

preparations, and a d e c r e a s e of any folic acid and niacin that may be

in

many supplements, as they have a tendency to increase histamine production.

(B complex)

Are you feeling more sleepy than usual as well as itchy?

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[Guest guest]

Itching as a result of excess histamine, can be helped with many OTC allergy

preparations, and a d e c r e a s e of any folic acid and niacin that may be

in

many supplements, as they have a tendency to increase histamine production.

(B complex)

Are you feeling more sleepy than usual as well as itchy?

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

>

> Itching as a result of excess histamine, can be helped with many

OTC allergy

> preparations, and a d e c r e a s e of any folic acid and niacin

that may be

> in

> many supplements, as they have a tendency to increase histamine

production.

> (B complex)

> Are you feeling more sleepy than usual as well as itchy?

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Itching as a result of excess histamine, can be helped with many

OTC allergy

> preparations, and a d e c r e a s e of any folic acid and niacin

that may be

> in

> many supplements, as they have a tendency to increase histamine

production.

> (B complex)

> Are you feeling more sleepy than usual as well as itchy?

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>