Guest guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 I am also interested in a hair test. Bernadette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 Hello Moria: .... if you get a hair test, it will tell you other toxic metals you are high in. How/where can one get a hair test? About how much does one cost? Thanks, Pamela Antoinette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2001 Report Share Posted April 9, 2001 I had my dentist order a hair analysis test for me from GSDL (Great Smokies Diagnostic Lab). You could do it yourself but it was more expensive. They sent my dentist a binder of gratis material on holistic tests. Hope he looks at it once in awhile! I'm sure he thought that since mercury was not out of range with me, that I had no trouble with it. Maybe my body can detox it but maybe it's a real workout to do it. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2001 Report Share Posted April 9, 2001 P.S. My dentist got the kit and gave it to me. I cut the hair sample out, weighed it on a simple little paper balancing thing and sent it off Airborne Express. I think it cost just under $50 and was about $20 more to get the kit sent to yourself. It could be different now. gsdl.com J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 Hi I can't do Great Smokies tests - best thing to do is scan it in and upload it to the files at Autism Mercury borad and then post asking Andy Cutler for his comments / Only DDI I can help with I'm afraid Mandi Hello groupgot the results back from Great Smokies lab everything within range except :uranium : way , way up 3.9, should be 0.072 ..Is he radioactive ?!Lithium is also to high.Also Molybdenum is high ( 0.1 ref is 0.04)the ratio Ca/Mg is to high, ratio Ca/P is low.what do you make of this ?his hair was washed the same eveningI did follow the instructions, several samples, close to scalp, etc, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Hello Katerina, Vita Royal Prod Inc also does hair analysis for just $65 for 40 elements, nutritional minerals and toxic metals...here is info from my protocol on it:Blood and Hair TestingQ. What is the Difference Between Blood Analysis and Hair Analysis?A. Blood and hair analysis offer different views of the body from different perspectives. Both are important, but in different situations. Blood is ever changing, reacting almost instantly sometimes, to things ingested or to physical stresses. It is our most valuable indicator of sudden onset or acute types of health problems, and can be analyzed in a relatively short period as well. That is why your doctor or vet will often take a blood sample in an emergency situation.Hair analysis, on the other hand, does not show rapid onset problems because of the time it takes the hair to grow and the extra time necessary to analyse the hair. The body grows hair continually, and forms it from the nutrients (or toxic elements) available and biologically active. It is likened to a computer that gives a constant readout on the workings within it.Hair analysis in people and animals can show problems in malabsortpion and nutritional deficiency, as well as possible causes of chronic and long term problems such as: arthritis, anemia, allergies, asthma, diabetes, hypoglycemia, acne, heavy metal poisoning (lead, cadmium, arsenic, nickel, mercury), various sleep disturbances, some learning disabilities, many fertility problems, weight problems, depression, hyperactivity, headaches, chronic infections, abnormal graying of hair, nervousness, irregular heart beat, cravings for abnormal food stuffs, poor healing of wounds, and sometimes aggression.Q. What problems can hair analysis be helpful for?A. There are many strengths and limitations using a hair analysis. It is very good for analyzing the deficiencies and excesses of mineral nutrition as well as exposure to toxic elements like heavy metals. It will NOT tell vitamin, herbicide, pesticide or organic hydrocarbon status, as these do not carry minerals that are able to be detected in hair. Unfortunately, some "professionals" are making those claims.Years ago, the lab and people who did this were taken to federal court and this issue was used to try to get hair analysis banned altogether by the orthodox powers that be. The lab was sued, but the procedure was found valid because much of the original work was done and verified by a government lab at Argonne. Unfortunately, there have entered the field since then, a new batch of "professionals" doing hair analysis who know enough about biochemistry at the cell level to just be dangerous!Environmental chemicals change the way the body processes minerals and hormones, and a "toxicity" viewed from the perspective of hair analysis only, can really be a "deficiency"! Even the biochemistry that I learned in college many years ago did not prepare me adequately for this, as there is a new paradigm in the biochemistry of ALL living things now! This HAS to be taken into account in ANY evaluation of nutritional, toxicological or behavioral status.I began my specialty business using hair analysis in 1977. I tracked which chemical forms of minerals were best for absorption and specifically for individual problems. Then, I blended supplements custom for each case, and had spectacular results, to say the least. From there, I formulated a whole line of specialty products for the most common ailmants based upon hundreds of hair analyses over the years, because by watching the changing values and "normals" over the years, I can see what paradigm, or model changes in overall biochemistry that the environmental pollutions are having on people and animals.With this unique insight, I could clearly see why orthodox medicine was not working as it did in the past, was more and more exhibiting higher statistics in non response and above all, more unexpected unwanted side effects.This is particularly true for the older drugs that formerly worked very well. The newly emerging stats on side effects of previously "safe" drugs, do not match the statistics of the PDR, done many years ago under a different paradigm of biochemistry that did not include the environmental pollution, especially the hormone mimics, that we have now!Some of the problems that hair analysis is helpful with are: violent behaviors, anxiety, allergy, stress chemistry, growth problems, ulcers and acid chemistry, as environmntal chemicals are sequestered in the body as organic acids, endocrine function, ovarian cysts, (manganese is imp. here as manganese is the "female" mineral), infertility, low basal metabolism, tics, twitches, skin problems, hair coat, susceptibility to infections, energy levels, sore muscles, tying up, aging, contracted tendons, epiphysitis etc.If anyone is interested in having a hair analysis done, and would like a case history questionaire, I can fax them one. These symptoms help to determine the EFFECTS of the imbalances in the body, by evaluating the corresponding biochemical pathways involved. It is very complicated, and the results are not easy to decipher, which is why the whole idea did not catch fire with orthodox med in the first place.Today, I usually only use hair analysis for people, and horses who have been exposed to toxic dumps, cemeteries, surface waters, etc. and try to save the client the lab fees by directly supplementing using the experience that I have gained.If they do not respond, then I do a hair analysis, as for the most part, I have done so may over the years that I can predict quite accurately how the results will turn out by the description of the symptoms, the environment lived in, past exposures, and the food intake.You can get even more info from my web site http//:www.vitaroyal.comLinsey McLeanBiochemistOn May 27, 2009, at 9:28 AM, katerinka70 wrote:Hi! Did anybody used http://www.lements.com/ for the hair mineral analysis? Seems that they provide really great info. The downside is that they only take requests from doctors and we can not order by ourselves. So I wanted to find out about your opinions before I create a big headache for my doc.In their sample they have iodine listed - is urine better for this test?Thank you!------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 I posted reply but it disappeard.. For iodine - what is a difference between hair and urine analysis? Do you know where I can test for vitamins levels? Thank you! > > > Hi! Did anybody used http://www.lements.com/ for the hair > > mineral analysis? Seems that they provide really great info. The > > downside is that they only take requests from doctors and we can not > > order by ourselves. So I wanted to find out about your opinions > > before I create a big headache for my doc. > > In their sample they have iodine listed - is urine better for this > > test? > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Hello Katerina, The iodine reference levels in the hair analysis are based upon obsolete levels, so I use them only for a ball park reference to compare to the other minerals and metals. I use symptoms for a better evaluation ...but really, if people are not supplementing with iodine like we all are, then you can assume them to be iodine deficient anyway. All of my clients are put on the iodine supplementation, unless they are already on it. For vitamins, there is really not a great test for nutritional status developed...hair will not show vitamin status, nor is blood very relevant either. That is a problem that is ongoing as different tissues and organs, including different blood components have different needs and carrying capacities for different vitamins. Here again, symptoms manifesting and known deficiencies of different symptoms and syndromes, as well as evaluating what is coming in from food sources is the best we have. To your good health! Linsey McLean Biochemist Vita Royal Prod Inc vitaroyal.com On May 28, 2009, at 11:24 AM, katerinka70 wrote: > I posted reply but it disappeard.. For iodine - what is a > difference between hair and urine analysis? > Do you know where I can test for vitamins levels? > Thank you! > > >> >> Hello Katerina, >> Vita Royal Prod Inc also does hair analysis for just $65 for 40 >> elements, nutritional minerals and toxic metals...here is info from >> my >> protocol on it: >> >> >> Blood and Hair Testing >> >> Q. What is the Difference Between Blood Analysis and Hair Analysis? >> >> A. Blood and hair analysis offer different views of the body from >> different perspectives. Both are important, but in different >> situations. Blood is ever changing, reacting almost instantly >> sometimes, to things ingested or to physical stresses. It is our most >> valuable indicator of sudden onset or acute types of health problems, >> and can be analyzed in a relatively short period as well. That is why >> your doctor or vet will often take a blood sample in an emergency >> situation. >> >> Hair analysis, on the other hand, does not show rapid onset problems >> because of the time it takes the hair to grow and the extra time >> necessary to analyse the hair. The body grows hair continually, and >> forms it from the nutrients (or toxic elements) available and >> biologically active. It is likened to a computer that gives a >> constant >> readout on the workings within it. >> >> Hair analysis in people and animals can show problems in >> malabsortpion >> and nutritional deficiency, as well as possible causes of chronic and >> long term problems such as: arthritis, anemia, allergies, asthma, >> diabetes, hypoglycemia, acne, heavy metal poisoning (lead, cadmium, >> arsenic, nickel, mercury), various sleep disturbances, some learning >> disabilities, many fertility problems, weight problems, depression, >> hyperactivity, headaches, chronic infections, abnormal graying of >> hair, nervousness, irregular heart beat, cravings for abnormal food >> stuffs, poor healing of wounds, and sometimes aggression. >> >> >> >> Q. What problems can hair analysis be helpful for? >> >> A. There are many strengths and limitations using a hair analysis. It >> is very good for analyzing the deficiencies and excesses of mineral >> nutrition as well as exposure to toxic elements like heavy metals. It >> will NOT tell vitamin, herbicide, pesticide or organic hydrocarbon >> status, as these do not carry minerals that are able to be detected >> in >> hair. Unfortunately, some " professionals " are making those claims. >> >> Years ago, the lab and people who did this were taken to federal >> court >> and this issue was used to try to get hair analysis banned altogether >> by the orthodox powers that be. The lab was sued, but the procedure >> was found valid because much of the original work was done and >> verified by a government lab at Argonne. Unfortunately, there have >> entered the field since then, a new batch of " professionals " doing >> hair analysis who know enough about biochemistry at the cell level to >> just be dangerous! >> >> Environmental chemicals change the way the body processes minerals >> and >> hormones, and a " toxicity " viewed from the perspective of hair >> analysis only, can really be a " deficiency " ! Even the biochemistry >> that I learned in college many years ago did not prepare me >> adequately >> for this, as there is a new paradigm in the biochemistry of ALL >> living >> things now! This HAS to be taken into account in ANY evaluation of >> nutritional, toxicological or behavioral status. >> >> I began my specialty business using hair analysis in 1977. I tracked >> which chemical forms of minerals were best for absorption and >> specifically for individual problems. Then, I blended supplements >> custom for each case, and had spectacular results, to say the least. >> From there, I formulated a whole line of specialty products for the >> most common ailmants based upon hundreds of hair analyses over the >> years, because by watching the changing values and " normals " over the >> years, I can see what paradigm, or model changes in overall >> biochemistry that the environmental pollutions are having on people >> and animals. >> >> With this unique insight, I could clearly see why orthodox medicine >> was not working as it did in the past, was more and more exhibiting >> higher statistics in non response and above all, more unexpected >> unwanted side effects.This is particularly true for the older drugs >> that formerly worked very well. The newly emerging stats on side >> effects of previously " safe " drugs, do not match the statistics of >> the >> PDR, done many years ago under a different paradigm of biochemistry >> that did not include the environmental pollution, especially the >> hormone mimics, that we have now! >> >> Some of the problems that hair analysis is helpful with are: violent >> behaviors, anxiety, allergy, stress chemistry, growth problems, >> ulcers >> and acid chemistry, as environmntal chemicals are sequestered in the >> body as organic acids, endocrine function, ovarian cysts, (manganese >> is imp. here as manganese is the " female " mineral), infertility, low >> basal metabolism, tics, twitches, skin problems, hair coat, >> susceptibility to infections, energy levels, sore muscles, tying up, >> aging, contracted tendons, epiphysitis etc. >> >> If anyone is interested in having a hair analysis done, and would >> like >> a case history questionaire, I can fax them one. These symptoms help >> to determine the EFFECTS of the imbalances in the body, by evaluating >> the corresponding biochemical pathways involved. It is very >> complicated, and the results are not easy to decipher, which is why >> the whole idea did not catch fire with orthodox med in the first >> place. >> >> Today, I usually only use hair analysis for people, and horses who >> have been exposed to toxic dumps, cemeteries, surface waters, etc. >> and >> try to save the client the lab fees by directly supplementing using >> the experience that I have gained. >> >> If they do not respond, then I do a hair analysis, as for the most >> part, I have done so may over the years that I can predict quite >> accurately how the results will turn out by the description of the >> symptoms, the environment lived in, past exposures, and the food >> intake. >> >> >> >> You can get even more info from my web site http//:www.vitaroyal.com >> >> Linsey McLean >> Biochemist >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 The Iodine loading test requires that you take 50 mgs of Iodoral and then collect the urine for 24 hours and what you "send out" is the measurement of what your body level saturation is. Hair analysis won't tell you this. Steph Re: Hair test I posted reply but it disappeard.. For iodine - what is a difference between hair and urine analysis? Do you know where I can test for vitamins levels?Thank you!> > > Hi! Did anybody used http://www.lements.com/ for the hair > > mineral analysis? Seems that they provide really great info. The > > downside is that they only take requests from doctors and we can not > > order by ourselves. So I wanted to find out about your opinions > > before I create a big headache for my doc.> > In their sample they have iodine listed - is urine better for this > > test?> > Thank you!> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Does that mean collecting all urine for a 24 hour period? Or waiting 24 hours and then getting a sample? Can most local labs test this or does it need to be sent out?~WOn Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:22 PM, ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote: The Iodine loading test requires that you take 50 mgs of Iodoral and then collect the urine for 24 hours and what you " send out " is the measurement of what your body level saturation is. Hair analysis won't tell you this.  Steph   Re: Hair test I posted reply but it disappeard.. For iodine - what is a difference between hair and urine analysis? Do you know where I can test for vitamins levels?Thank you!> > > Hi! Did anybody used http://www.lements.com/ for the hair > > mineral analysis? Seems that they provide really great info. The > > downside is that they only take requests from doctors and we can not > > order by ourselves. So I wanted to find out about your opinions > > before I create a big headache for my doc.> > In their sample they have iodine listed - is urine better for this > > test?> > Thank you!> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 All urine for 24 hours. No there are only a couple of labs that have been trained. I recommend Hakala Labs www.hakalalabs.com You can order it w/o a doctor. Steph Re: Hair test I posted reply but it disappeard.. For iodine - what is a difference between hair and urine analysis? Do you know where I can test for vitamins levels?Thank you!> > > Hi! Did anybody used http://www.lements.com/ for the hair > > mineral analysis? Seems that they provide really great info. The > > downside is that they only take requests from doctors and we can not > > order by ourselves. So I wanted to find out about your opinions > > before I create a big headache for my doc.> > In their sample they have iodine listed - is urine better for this > > test?> > Thank you!> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Linsey, the web site is kind of confusing. If I click on the " hair test " I can only see the link to " Doctor's Data " . A contacted them and they only accept orders from docs. ?? Katerinka > > > Hi! Did anybody used http://www.lements.com/ for the hair > > mineral analysis? Seems that they provide really great info. The > > downside is that they only take requests from doctors and we can not > > order by ourselves. So I wanted to find out about your opinions > > before I create a big headache for my doc. > > In their sample they have iodine listed - is urine better for this > > test? > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Hi We have done 10 rounds of chelation and i wanted to do a hair test.........ive never done it before Can you please suggest how i can go about it. Do we need to stop supplementation or chelation for testing if i do upload test results will i get help understanding it.....as im trying to learn how to read the test but fear how well i will be able to understand Thanks Kara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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