Re: Hello Folks - New to the group - Question re Phase III detox.

[Guest guest]

Stay away from that stuff. You would have better results eating the dirt in your

garden.

Yeast is caused by the chelation's effect on the immune system.

Get a good yeast protocol in place like GSE and Biotin. There are countless

others like Caprylic acid, oil of Oregano, etc..

You can also add in some organic fiber like Acacia, dissolves in drinks or can

be mixed in with food. Helps to keep the bowels moving.

TJ

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From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@...>

Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:25:58 AM

Subject: [ ] Hello Folks - New to the group - Question re Phase III

detox.

 

Hello Folks,

I have been chelating for a little while. I believe that I am being successful

in getting the mercury to be dumped into the intestines, but it is here where

the problem is. In its trajectory to get expelled, it causes inflammation and

yeast, and probably some is re-absorbed. I use Bentonite, Chlorella. I have also

heard of a product called IMD (Intestinal Metal DEtox) and somebody even

mentioned diatomaceous earth. Does anybody have recommendations and/or

experience using the mentioned products?

I'll much appreciate any thoughts.

.

[Guest guest]

Hi

I wouldn't Chlorella as it's sulphur food which can cause mercury to move about

a lot, in and out of the cells and drop the mercury without actually excreting

it. It's not a true chelator as it contains just one thiol (a molecule that

binds to mercury). A true chelator should contain two thiols (so bind to mercury

much more tightly and escort it out of the body) so alpha lipoic acid, dmsa and

dmps (all contain two) are the only true and thus safe chelators to use

according to Cutler.

HTH

x

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From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@...>

Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:25:58 AM

Subject: [ ] Hello Folks - New to the group - Question re Phase III

detox.

Hello Folks,

I have been chelating for a little while. I believe that I am being successful

in getting the mercury to be dumped into the intestines, but it is here where

the problem is. In its trajectory to get expelled, it causes inflammation and

yeast, and probably some is re-absorbed. I use Bentonite, Chlorella. I have also

heard of a product called IMD (Intestinal Metal DEtox) and somebody even

mentioned diatomaceous earth. Does anybody have recommendations and/or

experience using the mentioned products?

I'll much appreciate any thoughts.

.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your answer TJ. I did not know about the Acacia, which I see is rich

in tannings and may help with the yeast.

My question is regarding the re-absorption of the mercury in the gut, which is

my main objective.

I do like bentonite and chlorella for this purpose, but I am sure there is

something out there that is better. I have not tried the IMD, which is a fairly

new product. BTW, there is a big difference between the cheap and the tested

(but probably expensive) bentonite and chlorella.

.

>

> Stay away from that stuff. You would have better results eating the dirt in

your

> garden.

> Yeast is caused by the chelation's effect on the immune system.

> Get a good yeast protocol in place like GSE and Biotin. There are countless

> others like Caprylic acid, oil of Oregano, etc..

> You can also add in some organic fiber like Acacia, dissolves in drinks or can

> be mixed in with food. Helps to keep the bowels moving.

> TJ

>

>

>

>

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> From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@...>

>

> Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:25:58 AM

> Subject: [ ] Hello Folks - New to the group - Question re Phase

III

> detox.

>

>  

> Hello Folks,

>

> I have been chelating for a little while. I believe that I am being successful

> in getting the mercury to be dumped into the intestines, but it is here where

> the problem is. In its trajectory to get expelled, it causes inflammation and

> yeast, and probably some is re-absorbed. I use Bentonite, Chlorella. I have

also

> heard of a product called IMD (Intestinal Metal DEtox) and somebody even

> mentioned diatomaceous earth. Does anybody have recommendations and/or

> experience using the mentioned products?

>

> I'll much appreciate any thoughts.

>

> .

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi X,

I agree with you. The chlorella is only to move the mercury out of the bowels.

I am using OSR1 for chelation. I used DMSA and ALA before and I am happy with

OSR1 so far.

But independently of what we choose to chelate; DMSA, DMPS, ALA, etc. The

problem still remains. What do we use to trap the mercury in the bowel? I had

the same problem with ALA. Fast transit is not enough, I believe.

.

>

>

> Hi

>

>

> I wouldn't Chlorella as it's sulphur food which can cause mercury to move

about a lot, in and out of the cells and drop the mercury without actually

excreting it. It's not a true chelator as it contains just one thiol (a molecule

that binds to mercury). A true chelator should contain two thiols (so bind to

mercury much more tightly and escort it out of the body) so alpha lipoic acid,

dmsa and dmps (all contain two) are the only true and thus safe chelators to use

according to Cutler.

> HTH

>

>

>

> x

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@...>

>

> Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:25:58 AM

> Subject: [ ] Hello Folks - New to the group - Question re Phase

III

> detox.

>

>

> Hello Folks,

>

> I have been chelating for a little while. I believe that I am being successful

> in getting the mercury to be dumped into the intestines, but it is here where

> the problem is. In its trajectory to get expelled, it causes inflammation and

> yeast, and probably some is re-absorbed. I use Bentonite, Chlorella. I have

also

> heard of a product called IMD (Intestinal Metal DEtox) and somebody even

> mentioned diatomaceous earth. Does anybody have recommendations and/or

> experience using the mentioned products?

>

> I'll much appreciate any thoughts.

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

TJ, I really think that there is a point re re-absorption in the gut.

Why do I sense that we are playing opposing teams between this group and the

DANs instead of using whatever works best? Could they not know something that

helps?

.

>

> Re-absorption in the gut is a term DAN doctors use to sell you stuff.

> TJ

>

[Guest guest]

Why do DAN doctors prescribe harmful high dose protocols? Not sure, but it puts

in question everything they do

[ ] Re: Hello Folks - New to the group - Question re Phase

III detox.

TJ, I really think that there is a point re re-absorption in the gut.

Why do I sense that we are playing opposing teams between this group and the

DANs instead of using whatever works best? Could they not know something that

helps?

.

>

> Re-absorption in the gut is a term DAN doctors use to sell you stuff.

> TJ

>

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Start reading the Andy Cutler Archives aylt Onibasu.com

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/659.html

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> Hello Folks,

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> I have been chelating for a little while. I believe that I am being

successful in getting the mercury to be dumped into the intestines, but it is

here where the problem is. In its trajectory to get expelled, it causes

inflammation and yeast, and probably some is re-absorbed. I use Bentonite,

Chlorella. I have also heard of a product called IMD (Intestinal Metal DEtox)

and somebody even mentioned diatomaceous earth. Does anybody have

recommendations and/or experience using the mentioned products?

>

> I'll much appreciate any thoughts.

>

> .

>

[Guest guest]

This could very well be TJ. I have felt how it is easy for mercury to get

re-absorbed, from my own experience. I am only looking for better alternatives.

Thank you for your comments, though.

> >

> > Re-absorption in the gut is a term DAN doctors use to sell you stuff.

> > TJ

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[Guest guest]

Hi Ideals04. I have read most of it. I have chelated with DMSA and ALA before,

but to be honest, I am not sure that it worked for me. I will not say that I

did everything perfectly, but I did as close as I could.

Now, I am trying to do it a bit differently, using a variety of tools from

different schools of thought including Gerson, Cutler, Loyd, Lezaeta, etc;

trying to learn, see what people can say. I do appreciate your comments.

.

I

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> > Hello Folks,

> >

> > I have been chelating for a little while. I believe that I am being

successful in getting the mercury to be dumped into the intestines, but it is

here where the problem is. In its trajectory to get expelled, it causes

inflammation and yeast, and probably some is re-absorbed. I use Bentonite,

Chlorella. I have also heard of a product called IMD (Intestinal Metal DEtox)

and somebody even mentioned diatomaceous earth. Does anybody have

recommendations and/or experience using the mentioned products?

> >

> > I'll much appreciate any thoughts.

> >

> > .

> >

>

[Guest guest]

This is an issue with large dose protocols, that is the DAN way. Re-distribution

is a major factor and causes more damage to the cells.

With proper low and frequent dose protocol this is not an issue.

TJ

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From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@...>

Sent: Sat, September 18, 2010 3:11:44 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Hello Folks - New to the group - Question re Phase

III detox.

TJ, I really think that there is a point re re-absorption in the gut.

Why do I sense that we are playing opposing teams between this group and the

DANs instead of using whatever works best? Could they not know something that

helps?

.

>

> Re-absorption in the gut is a term DAN doctors use to sell you stuff.

> TJ

>

[Guest guest]

I understand. Thanks TJ.

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> > Re-absorption in the gut is a term DAN doctors use to sell you stuff.

> > TJ

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