Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 WOW! I was just playing around last night trying to muscle test my own daughter. If I was correct at what I did, it showed I should eliminate the vit c I give her and the biotin, but the vit c in her compound tested ok. Also she tested negative for teh cal-mag I give her but ok for the pure mag. So interesting these are the same supplements I was looking at!! My aspergers daughter is very borderline bipolar. Also - she can not take manganese either. when we eliminated it, her verbal tic went away! :0) special kids with special needs deserve a Warrior Mama! follow my blog here www.warriormama.com Get personal allergy free diet coaching and cooking classes here www.lisawoodruff.com [ ] re: Bi-polar Thanks . Yes, my daughter has food allergies. We're GF/CF/SoyFree/artificial colors and flavors and preservatives free/honey free/egg free. She takes vit C, vit A, vit E, vit B complex, Vit D3, zinc, magnesium, seleneium, chromium, biotin, GSE, CLO and omega 3's, evening primrose oil, MCT oil, probiotics, taurine, l-theanine, milk thistle, lithium orotate, MB12, ACE, pycnogenal, TriEnza, plus melatonin at bedtime. (I didn't get them out, so I could have forgotten something.) The SCDiet was one of the best things we've ever done for her, but she seems to have healed enough so that we've added back rice aand potatoes and several GF flours. We're still pretty much all homemade foods and not doing processed stuff, plus most foods are organic and water is filtered. We also do epsom salt baths for her, and avoid fluoride and shampoos and soaps. Phosphatidyl choline contains soy, so that one's out for us. We just recently had her supplements muscle tested and eliminated the biotin and the buffered C (replaced it with a different C). Haven't tried the EMPower plus - it's got copper and manganese and calcium, and we've just finally gotten her copper down into the normal range, her manganese is still very high and it seemed to be the calcium that was a problem for her in the buffered vit C we were using, so I'm not sure it's something I want to try. If chelation is the final puzzle piece for your daughter, then what else have you tried besides the supplements listed? Thanks Jan Re: Bi-polar Posted by: " khieken " khieken@... khieken Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:47 am (PST) My 9yo daughter has a bipolar diagnosis. We are early in the chelation process (12 rounds - ALA only), but I feel that this was the final piece of the puzzle for her. I would classify her behavior as " normal " now, but am almost scared to admit that for fear that it will revert back to the severe irritability she experienced for so many years. Sorry if you posted this already, but does your child have food allergies and on a special diet? Yeast protocol? These were big for us. My daughter takes EMPower plus (mentioned in an earlier reply), omega 3s, phosphatidyl choline, GSE, biotin, vit c and e, zinc, probiotics. At least for us, too much of a supplement can be just as bad as not enough. ------------------------------------ ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 There appears to be more than one " Jan " on list now. If you need me then clarify Jan M or Jan from RFA. But glad you figured out the supplements. I would also test her for another form of C because sometimes it's not the actual vitamin they test negative for, but the form of it or other ingredients in it. It'd be rare to see someone who did not need Vitamin C. The manganese makes sense.....many mercury toxic people can't take that. Jan M RFA > > WOW! > > I was just playing around last night trying to muscle test my own daughter. > If I was correct at what I did, it showed I should eliminate the vit c I > give her and the biotin, but the vit c in her compound tested ok. > > Also she tested negative for teh cal-mag I give her but ok for the pure mag. > So interesting these are the same supplements I was looking at!! > > My aspergers daughter is very borderline bipolar. > > Also - she can not take manganese either. when we eliminated it, her verbal > tic went away! > > > :0) > > > > > [ ] re: Bi-polar > > Thanks . Yes, my daughter has food allergies. We're > GF/CF/SoyFree/artificial colors and flavors and preservatives free/honey > free/egg free. She takes vit C, vit A, vit E, vit B complex, Vit D3, zinc, > magnesium, seleneium, chromium, biotin, GSE, CLO and omega 3's, evening > primrose oil, MCT oil, probiotics, taurine, l-theanine, milk thistle, > lithium orotate, MB12, ACE, pycnogenal, TriEnza, plus melatonin at bedtime. > (I didn't get them out, so I could have forgotten something.) The SCDiet > was one of the best things we've ever done for her, but she seems to have > healed enough so that we've added back rice aand potatoes and several GF > flours. We're still pretty much all homemade foods and not doing processed > stuff, plus most foods are organic and water is filtered. We also do epsom > salt baths for her, and avoid fluoride and shampoos and soaps. > > Phosphatidyl choline contains soy, so that one's out for us. We just > recently had her supplements muscle tested and eliminated the biotin and the > buffered C (replaced it with a different C). Haven't tried the EMPower plus > - it's got copper and manganese and calcium, and we've just finally gotten > her copper down into the normal range, her manganese is still very high and > it seemed to be the calcium that was a problem for her in the buffered vit C > we were using, so I'm not sure it's something I want to try. > > If chelation is the final puzzle piece for your daughter, then what else > have you tried besides the supplements listed? > Thanks > Jan > > Re: Bi-polar > Posted by: " khieken " khieken@... khieken Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:47 am > (PST) > > > My 9yo daughter has a bipolar diagnosis. We are early in the chelation > process (12 rounds - ALA only), but I feel that this was the final piece of > the puzzle for her. I would classify her behavior as " normal " now, but am > almost scared to admit that for fear that it will revert back to the severe > irritability she experienced for so many years. > > Sorry if you posted this already, but does your child have food allergies > and on a special diet? Yeast protocol? These were big for us. My daughter > takes EMPower plus (mentioned in an earlier reply), omega 3s, phosphatidyl > choline, GSE, biotin, vit c and e, zinc, probiotics. At least for us, too > much of a supplement can be just as bad as not enough. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 My son takes Vit C in the form of Amla, an Ayurvedic fruit (it isn't actually vit c, but just like it - a strong antioxidant). You could try that if you like. We also like Nutragenics Bio-C, a complex with some other nutrients, don't know if that would work. Best thing to do is bring the child to the store and try to test there. Liz > > > > WOW! > > > > I was just playing around last night trying to muscle test my own daughter. > > If I was correct at what I did, it showed I should eliminate the vit c I > > give her and the biotin, but the vit c in her compound tested ok. > > > > Also she tested negative for teh cal-mag I give her but ok for the pure mag. > > So interesting these are the same supplements I was looking at!! > > > > My aspergers daughter is very borderline bipolar. > > > > Also - she can not take manganese either. when we eliminated it, her verbal > > tic went away! > > > > > > :0) > > > > > > > > > > [ ] re: Bi-polar > > > > Thanks . Yes, my daughter has food allergies. We're > > GF/CF/SoyFree/artificial colors and flavors and preservatives free/honey > > free/egg free. She takes vit C, vit A, vit E, vit B complex, Vit D3, zinc, > > magnesium, seleneium, chromium, biotin, GSE, CLO and omega 3's, evening > > primrose oil, MCT oil, probiotics, taurine, l-theanine, milk thistle, > > lithium orotate, MB12, ACE, pycnogenal, TriEnza, plus melatonin at bedtime. > > (I didn't get them out, so I could have forgotten something.) The SCDiet > > was one of the best things we've ever done for her, but she seems to have > > healed enough so that we've added back rice aand potatoes and several GF > > flours. We're still pretty much all homemade foods and not doing processed > > stuff, plus most foods are organic and water is filtered. We also do epsom > > salt baths for her, and avoid fluoride and shampoos and soaps. > > > > Phosphatidyl choline contains soy, so that one's out for us. We just > > recently had her supplements muscle tested and eliminated the biotin and the > > buffered C (replaced it with a different C). Haven't tried the EMPower plus > > - it's got copper and manganese and calcium, and we've just finally gotten > > her copper down into the normal range, her manganese is still very high and > > it seemed to be the calcium that was a problem for her in the buffered vit C > > we were using, so I'm not sure it's something I want to try. > > > > If chelation is the final puzzle piece for your daughter, then what else > > have you tried besides the supplements listed? > > Thanks > > Jan > > > > Re: Bi-polar > > Posted by: " khieken " khieken@ khieken Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:47 am > > (PST) > > > > > > My 9yo daughter has a bipolar diagnosis. We are early in the chelation > > process (12 rounds - ALA only), but I feel that this was the final piece of > > the puzzle for her. I would classify her behavior as " normal " now, but am > > almost scared to admit that for fear that it will revert back to the severe > > irritability she experienced for so many years. > > > > Sorry if you posted this already, but does your child have food allergies > > and on a special diet? Yeast protocol? These were big for us. My daughter > > takes EMPower plus (mentioned in an earlier reply), omega 3s, phosphatidyl > > choline, GSE, biotin, vit c and e, zinc, probiotics. At least for us, too > > much of a supplement can be just as bad as not enough. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Muscle response testing and info - http://patblocknd.com/index_files/page0001.htm Pycnogenol (Maritime pinebark extract) is great. I get it from Vitacost. I just posted about Marohn http://stephaniemarohn.com/books_bipolar.html http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Medicine-Bipolar-Disorder-Healthy/dp/1571742913 She is not Christian, but a lot of the information is good. She is researcher type person, so it is worth the read. Regards, Summer McFarland 1.22 HEAL KIDS 1.224.325.5437 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------------------------------- Over fourteen years of organic search engine optimization, marketing and design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Liz, I was thinking of trying AMLA, I wonder if you know if it is problematic with high phenol sensitivity? I'd like an idea about that before I try it. Thanks, > > > > > > WOW! > > > > > > I was just playing around last night trying to muscle test my own daughter. > > > If I was correct at what I did, it showed I should eliminate the vit c I > > > give her and the biotin, but the vit c in her compound tested ok. > > > > > > Also she tested negative for teh cal-mag I give her but ok for the pure mag. > > > So interesting these are the same supplements I was looking at!! > > > > > > My aspergers daughter is very borderline bipolar. > > > > > > Also - she can not take manganese either. when we eliminated it, her verbal > > > tic went away! > > > > > > > > > :0) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ] re: Bi-polar > > > > > > Thanks . Yes, my daughter has food allergies. We're > > > GF/CF/SoyFree/artificial colors and flavors and preservatives free/honey > > > free/egg free. She takes vit C, vit A, vit E, vit B complex, Vit D3, zinc, > > > magnesium, seleneium, chromium, biotin, GSE, CLO and omega 3's, evening > > > primrose oil, MCT oil, probiotics, taurine, l-theanine, milk thistle, > > > lithium orotate, MB12, ACE, pycnogenal, TriEnza, plus melatonin at bedtime. > > > (I didn't get them out, so I could have forgotten something.) The SCDiet > > > was one of the best things we've ever done for her, but she seems to have > > > healed enough so that we've added back rice aand potatoes and several GF > > > flours. We're still pretty much all homemade foods and not doing processed > > > stuff, plus most foods are organic and water is filtered. We also do epsom > > > salt baths for her, and avoid fluoride and shampoos and soaps. > > > > > > Phosphatidyl choline contains soy, so that one's out for us. We just > > > recently had her supplements muscle tested and eliminated the biotin and the > > > buffered C (replaced it with a different C). Haven't tried the EMPower plus > > > - it's got copper and manganese and calcium, and we've just finally gotten > > > her copper down into the normal range, her manganese is still very high and > > > it seemed to be the calcium that was a problem for her in the buffered vit C > > > we were using, so I'm not sure it's something I want to try. > > > > > > If chelation is the final puzzle piece for your daughter, then what else > > > have you tried besides the supplements listed? > > > Thanks > > > Jan > > > > > > Re: Bi-polar > > > Posted by: " khieken " khieken@ khieken Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:47 am > > > (PST) > > > > > > > > > My 9yo daughter has a bipolar diagnosis. We are early in the chelation > > > process (12 rounds - ALA only), but I feel that this was the final piece of > > > the puzzle for her. I would classify her behavior as " normal " now, but am > > > almost scared to admit that for fear that it will revert back to the severe > > > irritability she experienced for so many years. > > > > > > Sorry if you posted this already, but does your child have food allergies > > > and on a special diet? Yeast protocol? These were big for us. My daughter > > > takes EMPower plus (mentioned in an earlier reply), omega 3s, phosphatidyl > > > choline, GSE, biotin, vit c and e, zinc, probiotics. At least for us, too > > > much of a supplement can be just as bad as not enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 http://www.truehope.com/default.aspx Truehope, the company Health Canada attacked (and lost in court), has good info on this Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: thebestfedbaby Muscle response testing and info - http://patblocknd.com/index_files/page0001.htm Pycnogenol (Maritime pinebark extract) is great. I get it from Vitacost. I just posted about Marohn http://stephaniemarohn.com/books_bipolar.html http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Medicine-Bipolar-Disorder-Healthy/dp/1571742913 She is not Christian, but a lot of the information is good. She is researcher type person, so it is worth the read. Regards, Summer McFarland 1.22 HEAL KIDS 1.224.325.5437 ---------------------------------------------------------- Over fourteen years of organic search engine optimization, marketing and design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 I , an adult, am sensitive to pretty well everything .. am able to get enough to eat fortunately. BUt supplements are a problem. IT takes soooo little to have a reaction. Last night with a tenth of a capsule of a form of zinc my gut was in pain all night. I would say the amla is not good for sal sensitivities as it is from a fruit. For vitamin C I can tolerate Nutricology Tapioca C.. taken out of the gelatine capsule.. as gelatine is high in glutamates ?,a problem for some. nanci > > Liz, > > I was thinking of trying AMLA, I wonder if you know if it is problematic with high phenol sensitivity? I'd like an idea about that before I try it. > > Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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