Any advice for depression / apathy side effect?

[Guest guest]

Hello All,

I've been seeing very good results at 1.5mg nightly, which I started about 3

weeks ago to treat my CFS and Fibro and in particular my brain fog. I've had

mostly positive effects, including decreased pain and stiffness and increased

flexibility and range of motion. I'm also sleeping better, including having

dreams again, which although they are not always positive dreams I consider a

positive effect. My brain fog has improved, but is still my main complaint. I

definitely had some difficulty with latent viruses or candida and have had side

effects of hot flashes and increased allergies.

But my main complaint is a slight increase in both anxiety and depression. I'm

not so worried about the anxiety as I have constructed a life that has little of

it. The depression is of the low-grade variety and feels more like a general

apathy or listlessness. I've suffered from severe depression before so I know

the difference. This is more of a chronic feeling, like even though my energy

and brain fog and pain are improved I don't have any desire to do anything. It's

a strange feeling, because it has been the opposite for so long. The desire was

there but the body and mind were at odds with that desire.

My question is, has anyone discovered any supplement, drug, or herb or anything

that can help with this depression and not interfere with LDN? I've had good

results with Lamitcal and St. 's Wort (separately) in the past, but I prefer

not to use prescription drugs as my reaction is usually terrible. Also, I'm

allergic to fish so fish oil is not a possibility for me and only makes me feel

worse.

Thanks everyone, I love this place and I love LDN. I hope someone can help.

[Guest guest]

DL-Phenylalanine is suppose to help boost endorphin levels

when on LDN. It is a nutritional treatment for depression

even without LDN. There are actually quite a few nutrients

that help alleviate depression. There is a free eBook at

http://www.thewayup.com/ that details a whole program. If

you have high BP or are on MAO inhibitors you are not

suppoes to tak DLPA.

http://www.orthomed.org/resources/resources.html is an

extensive page of resources on the nutritional approach to

brain and mood balancing.

Along the line of this program a 50/50 mixture of two

readily available blends of amino acids, along with added

tryptophan, carnitine, phosphatidyl choline, and vitamins B

complex and C, are used to balance brain chemistry and

alleviate depression. Specifically, the two blends of amino

acids are Pure Form 20 and WAC blend from www.jomarlabs.com

.. Some use tryptophan, tyrosine, and phenylalanine to effect

mood change.

www.bulknutrition.com is a good place to buy the AAs in bulk

to keep cost down.

For a Fish Oil substitute consider Walnut Oil. It is very

high in Omega 3 and is simply delicious on salads. Walnuts

are also high in Omega 3. Actually broccoli and all forms of

greens are also good sources.

Garnet

fbrother1of2 wrote:

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>

> Hello All,

>

> I've been seeing very good results at 1.5mg nightly, which I started

> about 3 weeks ago to treat my CFS and Fibro and in particular my brain

> fog. I've had mostly positive effects, including decreased pain and

> stiffness and increased flexibility and range of motion. I'm also

> sleeping better, including having dreams again, which although they are

> not always positive dreams I consider a positive effect. My brain fog

> has improved, but is still my main complaint. I definitely had some

> difficulty with latent viruses or candida and have had side effects of

> hot flashes and increased allergies.

>

> But my main complaint is a slight increase in both anxiety and

> depression. I'm not so worried about the anxiety as I have constructed a

> life that has little of it. The depression is of the low-grade variety

> and feels more like a general apathy or listlessness. I've suffered from

> severe depression before so I know the difference. This is more of a

> chronic feeling, like even though my energy and brain fog and pain are

> improved I don't have any desire to do anything. It's a strange feeling,

> because it has been the opposite for so long. The desire was there but

> the body and mind were at odds with that desire.

>

> My question is, has anyone discovered any supplement, drug, or herb or

> anything that can help with this depression and not interfere with LDN?

> I've had good results with Lamitcal and St. 's Wort (separately) in

> the past, but I prefer not to use prescription drugs as my reaction is

> usually terrible. Also, I'm allergic to fish so fish oil is not a

> possibility for me and only makes me feel worse.

>

> Thanks everyone, I love this place and I love LDN. I hope someone can help.

>

>