Re: TABOO

[Guest guest]

Your ? is not Taboo. 1st off you need to get away from the stereotypical

notion that disabled people do not have sex. You are woman, and that's a

natural part of a woman's life, disabled or not. There are many couples here

who

have kids, so we all know they have had sex . Just b/c you can't always

physically do everything involved w/sex, doesn't mean " no sex. " The right

person will be willing to help you out to make you feel comfy. My fiance and I

are both disabled but still have an active and healthy sex life in my opinion.

So I wouldn't say sex is not in the cards for you. If you find the right

person, there's nothing wrong w/experimenting w/your sexual side. It's

natural for God's sake!

Kimi

PS Where are you from?

In a message dated 12/30/2005 3:32:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

deepatarzan@... writes:

hI Kimi,ALana, MEg,and all

Im back to ask all u people a taboo stuff..or atleast

i feel it to be a taboo..for me.

I get my minds open when peoples opnion bout it...and

please dont feel bad bout wat im gonna say and

ask...its just taut of sharing my views to u people.

" SmA women and SeX "

Being a SMA gal i feel when it comes to sex, i feel im

not right person for it. since sex if full of action

generally..i feel awful that action and me are not

that connected

Yup i have never had once till time ...even thou its

like a no word for my mind.

MY QUESTION WUD BE... IS IT OK TO HAV SEX,WHEN U PLAY

A LIL ROLE IN DOIN STUFFS[ ] SORRY ...?

OR EVEN TO HAV SEX..IS IT TO BE PLANNED FOR OUR

COMFORT?

Please let me kno wat u people thing bout it..if its ok..

Love u

[Guest guest]

kimi..its me deepa...haha...frgt to write my name..

hey but ur sweeteart..ur rite/ love u

--- Ksmile96@... wrote:

>

> Your ? is not Taboo. 1st off you need to get away

> from the stereotypical

> notion that disabled people do not have sex. You

> are woman, and that's a

> natural part of a woman's life, disabled or not.

> There are many couples here who

> have kids, so we all know they have had sex .

> Just b/c you can't always

> physically do everything involved w/sex, doesn't

> mean " no sex. " The right

> person will be willing to help you out to make you

> feel comfy. My fiance and I

> are both disabled but still have an active and

> healthy sex life in my opinion.

> So I wouldn't say sex is not in the cards for you.

> If you find the right

> person, there's nothing wrong w/experimenting

> w/your sexual side. It's

> natural for God's sake!

> Kimi

> PS Where are you from?

>

>

>

> In a message dated 12/30/2005 3:32:36 A.M. Eastern

> Standard Time,

> deepatarzan@... writes:

>

> hI Kimi,ALana, MEg,and all

>

> Im back to ask all u people a taboo stuff..or

> atleast

> i feel it to be a taboo..for me.

> I get my minds open when peoples opnion bout

> it...and

> please dont feel bad bout wat im gonna say and

> ask...its just taut of sharing my views to u people.

>

> " SmA women and SeX "

>

> Being a SMA gal i feel when it comes to sex, i feel

> im

> not right person for it. since sex if full of

> action

> generally..i feel awful that action and me are not

> that connected

> Yup i have never had once till time ...even thou its

> like a no word for my mind.

>

> MY QUESTION WUD BE... IS IT OK TO HAV SEX,WHEN U

> PLAY

> A LIL ROLE IN DOIN STUFFS[ ] SORRY ...?

> OR EVEN TO HAV SEX..IS IT TO BE PLANNED FOR OUR

> COMFORT?

>

> Please let me kno wat u people thing bout it..if

> its ok..

>

> Love u

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

Love u

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[Guest guest]

Deepa,

That's not taboo at all. Lots of people think that

disabled women can't have sex, but we can. I don't

know about the others but for Steve and I, it's

spontaneous, we don't plan it at all. I think the

main thing to realize is that you are a woman,

disabled or not we have the same needs and desires and

AB people.

Simone

--- deepa narasimhan <deepatarzan@...> wrote:

> hI Kimi,ALana, MEg,and all

>

> Im back to ask all u people a taboo stuff..or

> atleast

> i feel it to be a taboo..for me.

> I get my minds open when peoples opnion bout

> it...and

> please dont feel bad bout wat im gonna say and

> ask...its just taut of sharing my views to u people.

>

> " SmA women and SeX "

>

> Being a SMA gal i feel when it comes to sex, i feel

> im

> not right person for it. since sex if full of action

> generally..i feel awful that action and me are not

> that connected

> Yup i have never had once till time ...even thou its

> like a no word for my mind.

>

> MY QUESTION WUD BE... IS IT OK TO HAV SEX,WHEN U

> PLAY

> A LIL ROLE IN DOIN STUFFS[ ] SORRY ...?

> OR EVEN TO HAV SEX..IS IT TO BE PLANNED FOR OUR

> COMFORT?

>

> Please let me kno wat u people thing bout it..if its

> ok..

>

> Love u

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Remember disabled men too.....

Unfortunately, it is still taboo for most people with disabilities.

Hell, as recently as the 1970s Americans with disabilities were still

subject to court-ordered forced sterilization.

A guy on Duchenne's listserv got reported to the agency for " sexual

harrassment " just because a nurse caught him masturbating (in his own

house) in the urinal she gave him and freaked out. This is the

predominant attitude in most parts of the US, that people with

disabilities should not be sexual and we shouldn't see it or talk about

it. .

How do we change this? How do we go from taboo to no taboo?

Nick

Simone Egerter wrote:

>Deepa,

>

>That's not taboo at all. Lots of people think that

>disabled women can't have sex, but we can. I don't

>know about the others but for Steve and I, it's

>spontaneous, we don't plan it at all. I think the

>main thing to realize is that you are a woman,

>disabled or not we have the same needs and desires and

>AB people.

>

>Simone

>

>--- deepa narasimhan <deepatarzan@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>>hI Kimi,ALana, MEg,and all

>>

>>Im back to ask all u people a taboo stuff..or

>>atleast

>>i feel it to be a taboo..for me.

>>I get my minds open when peoples opnion bout

>>it...and

>>please dont feel bad bout wat im gonna say and

>>ask...its just taut of sharing my views to u people.

>>

>> " SmA women and SeX "

>>

>>Being a SMA gal i feel when it comes to sex, i feel

>>im

>>not right person for it. since sex if full of action

>>generally..i feel awful that action and me are not

>>that connected

>>Yup i have never had once till time ...even thou its

>>like a no word for my mind.

>>

>>MY QUESTION WUD BE... IS IT OK TO HAV SEX,WHEN U

>>PLAY

>>A LIL ROLE IN DOIN STUFFS[ ] SORRY ...?

>>OR EVEN TO HAV SEX..IS IT TO BE PLANNED FOR OUR

>>COMFORT?

>>

>>Please let me kno wat u people thing bout it..if its

>>ok..

>>

>>Love u

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>__________________________________

>> for Good - Make a difference this year.

>>http://brand./cybergivingweek2005/

>>

>>

>>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Nick,

I've always felt DA men have it harder than DA women when it comes to sexual

urges. Most men have a higher sex drive than most woman, thus needing a

outlet for it or a need to satisfy the urges. I heard about the DMD guy who

was

reported by his nurse for masterbating, and IMO it's the nursing agency's

duty to help w/psycho-social needs which includes sex. I'm not saying that

they are required to help them actively relieve themselves, but setting a guy

up

or giving him a urinal to masterbate in doesn't seem very harmful to either

party. I also wish there was a way to educate society and especially

caregivers of the DA about sexual needs of DA ppl. This is also a heated

ethical

topic when it comes to the mentally DA. I know of one institution in PA where

a male sex therapist instructs the mentally DA on how to masterbate. Some

may think this is gross and wrong, but really is it?? I'd like to hear others

thoughts on how to educate society about the sexual needs of the DA.

Kimi

In a message dated 12/30/2005 12:37:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

nickdupree@... writes:

Remember disabled men too.....

Unfortunately, it is still taboo for most people with disabilities.

Hell, as recently as the 1970s Americans with disabilities were still

subject to court-ordered forced sterilization.

A guy on Duchenne's listserv got reported to the agency for " sexual

harrassment " just because a nurse caught him masturbating (in his own

house) in the urinal she gave him and freaked out. This is the

predominant attitude in most parts of the US, that people with

disabilities should not be sexual and we shouldn't see it or talk about

it. .

How do we change this? How do we go from taboo to no taboo?

Nick

[Guest guest]

Alana,

As always you gave great advice. Yes, I agree it was difficult getting used

to asking for help to hug, touch, etc. I know in my experience, when I was

dating AB men, I was always insecure about my body image and whether I was

satisfying them enough. Dating a DA guy has helped me tremendously w/accepting

my self image and believing the sexy and beautiful comments from men. For

me it was more believable coming from a DA peer. And communication, esp in

the bedroom, is essential in any relationship. I also talked w/friends more

experienced than me and even read up on certain topics I wasn't sure about on

the internet. So the internet is a great resource on sexual topics. Just my

experience....

Kimi

In a message dated 12/30/2005 1:37:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

alrt@... writes:

hi deepa,

it is indeed difficult to imagine people with disabilities being

sexual because we almost never see it in movies or hear about it in

the non-disabled world. i have been sexually active since i was 20,

and the scariest part was worrying about being desirable to a partner

and being able to physically do things that were satisfying to both

of us. i have been pleasantly surprised to learn that even with very

limited mobility i can have a great sex life, and do have a great sex

life!

there are a number of things that have helped me gain confidence and

enjoy my sex life. i must tell you, though, it's not magical except

for the romantic feelings. the physical logistics are awkward,

funny, tedious, sticky and very human...lol. communication is the

most important part, and i had to learn to be comfortable

saying, " lift my arm so i can hug you, " and " put my hand on blah blah

body part. " my non-disabled women friends also explain their

difficulties with communication during sex. it's difficult at first

to tell a partner that a particular way they are touching you doesn't

feel good and that it would feel nice if they would touch you in

another way or place. most of my partners have found this type of

direct communication to be very sexy and a turn-on. it's such a

relief if we actually know our partner is happy and not faking

pleasure.

i learned a lot by talking with disabled and non-disabled friends who

had more sexual experience than me. i also read a lot of books.

here are some i can recommend:

[Guest guest]

hi deepa,

it is indeed difficult to imagine people with disabilities being

sexual because we almost never see it in movies or hear about it in

the non-disabled world. i have been sexually active since i was 20,

and the scariest part was worrying about being desirable to a partner

and being able to physically do things that were satisfying to both

of us. i have been pleasantly surprised to learn that even with very

limited mobility i can have a great sex life, and do have a great sex

life!

there are a number of things that have helped me gain confidence and

enjoy my sex life. i must tell you, though, it's not magical except

for the romantic feelings. the physical logistics are awkward,

funny, tedious, sticky and very human...lol. communication is the

most important part, and i had to learn to be comfortable

saying, " lift my arm so i can hug you, " and " put my hand on blah blah

body part. " my non-disabled women friends also explain their

difficulties with communication during sex. it's difficult at first

to tell a partner that a particular way they are touching you doesn't

feel good and that it would feel nice if they would touch you in

another way or place. most of my partners have found this type of

direct communication to be very sexy and a turn-on. it's such a

relief if we actually know our partner is happy and not faking

pleasure.

i learned a lot by talking with disabled and non-disabled friends who

had more sexual experience than me. i also read a lot of books.

here are some i can recommend:

With the Power of Each Breath: A Disabled Women's Anthology

by Debra Connors, E. Browne, Nanci Stern (Editors)

Our Bodies, Ourselves : A New Edition for a New Era

by Boston Women's Health Book Collective

Sex Matters for Women: A Complete Guide to Taking Care of Your Sexual

Self

by Sallie Foley, Sally A. Kope, Dennis P. Sugrue

With Wings: An Anthology of Literature by and About Women With

Disabilities

by Marsha Saxton (Editor), Florence Howe (Editor)

Bigger Than the Sky: Disabled Women on Parenting

by Michele Wates (Editor)

The Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability: For All of Us Who Live with

Disabilities, Chronic Pain and Illness

by Cory Silverberg, Miriam Kaufman, Fran Odette

Enjoy!

Alana

[Guest guest]

Deepa,

In Canada, sex is a fairly non-taboo topic and depending on who you are with

can be a normal, loving act.

SMA has not stopped me from having sex. I am not able to go wild and crazy

like those women you see in the movies or on video, but all my parts react

like theirs do, LOL.

I suppose it depends on who you are with. If you find a loving partner then it

wont matter what you can or cannot do. All you need to be is open and honest

about how you feel when you are with your " mate " . Some find dirty talking to

be enough to arouse them and others need a gentle touch.

Without giving away my bedroom secrets .... I can say that my husband likes my

mouth and words and in kind he gives me his manhood and more.

Take it slow and be honest......sex is good when both are in sync.

Angie

On 2005.12.30 10:41, Simone Egerter wrote:

> Deepa,

>

> That's not taboo at all. Lots of people think that

> disabled women can't have sex, but we can. I don't

> know about the others but for Steve and I, it's

> spontaneous, we don't plan it at all. I think the

> main thing to realize is that you are a woman,

> disabled or not we have the same needs and desires and

> AB people.

>

> Simone

>

> --- deepa narasimhan <deepatarzan@...> wrote:

> > hI Kimi,ALana, MEg,and all

> >

> > Im back to ask all u people a taboo stuff..or

> > atleast

> > i feel it to be a taboo..for me.

> > I get my minds open when peoples opnion bout

> > it...and

> > please dont feel bad bout wat im gonna say and

> > ask...its just taut of sharing my views to u people.

> >

> > " SmA women and SeX "

> >

> > Being a SMA gal i feel when it comes to sex, i feel

> > im

> > not right person for it. since sex if full of action

> > generally..i feel awful that action and me are not

> > that connected

> > Yup i have never had once till time ...even thou its

> > like a no word for my mind.

> >

> > MY QUESTION WUD BE... IS IT OK TO HAV SEX,WHEN U

> > PLAY

> > A LIL ROLE IN DOIN STUFFS[ ] SORRY ...?

> > OR EVEN TO HAV SEX..IS IT TO BE PLANNED FOR OUR

> > COMFORT?

> >

> > Please let me kno wat u people thing bout it..if its

> > ok..

> >

> > Love u

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________

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In a message dated 12/30/2005 3:32:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,

deepatarzan@... writes:

MY QUESTION WUD BE... IS IT OK TO HAV SEX,WHEN U PLAY

A LIL ROLE IN DOIN STUFFS[ ] SORRY ...?

OR EVEN TO HAV SEX..IS IT TO BE PLANNED FOR OUR

COMFORT?

I play a huge role in our sex life despite having little independent

movement. I *can* move all the important parts.

Amy

Wife to Will 11/3/95

Mama to Olivia Isabelle 9/18/03 - she's two!

http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/o/oliviathegreat/

Phineas Maximilian 11/30/05 - he's here!

http://babiesonline.com/babies/m/mama20305/

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/30/2005 5:00:11 P.M. Central Standard Time,

Ksmile96@... writes:

Most men have a higher sex drive than most woman

Hmmmm really? LOL

[Guest guest]

I feel like everyone is having sex but me!

Fuck! This sucks! *LOL*

Meg.

Re: Taboo

hi deepa,

it is indeed difficult to imagine people with disabilities being

sexual because we almost never see it in movies or hear about it in

the non-disabled world. i have been sexually active since i was 20,

and the scariest part was worrying about being desirable to a partner

and being able to physically do things that were satisfying to both

of us. i have been pleasantly surprised to learn that even with very

limited mobility i can have a great sex life, and do have a great sex

life!

there are a number of things that have helped me gain confidence and

enjoy my sex life. i must tell you, though, it's not magical except

for the romantic feelings. the physical logistics are awkward,

funny, tedious, sticky and very human...lol. communication is the

most important part, and i had to learn to be comfortable

saying, " lift my arm so i can hug you, " and " put my hand on blah blah

body part. " my non-disabled women friends also explain their

difficulties with communication during sex. it's difficult at first

to tell a partner that a particular way they are touching you doesn't

feel good and that it would feel nice if they would touch you in

another way or place. most of my partners have found this type of

direct communication to be very sexy and a turn-on. it's such a

relief if we actually know our partner is happy and not faking

pleasure.

i learned a lot by talking with disabled and non-disabled friends who

had more sexual experience than me. i also read a lot of books.

here are some i can recommend:

With the Power of Each Breath: A Disabled Women's Anthology

by Debra Connors, E. Browne, Nanci Stern (Editors)

Our Bodies, Ourselves : A New Edition for a New Era

by Boston Women's Health Book Collective

Sex Matters for Women: A Complete Guide to Taking Care of Your Sexual

Self

by Sallie Foley, Sally A. Kope, Dennis P. Sugrue

With Wings: An Anthology of Literature by and About Women With

Disabilities

by Marsha Saxton (Editor), Florence Howe (Editor)

Bigger Than the Sky: Disabled Women on Parenting

by Michele Wates (Editor)

The Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability: For All of Us Who Live with

Disabilities, Chronic Pain and Illness

by Cory Silverberg, Miriam Kaufman, Fran Odette

Enjoy!

Alana

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[Guest guest]

Deepa,

I have never had sex. I have a very dirty mind and imagination. I am like

a cat in heat most of the time, but my hands serve me well, for now.

Although a man would be nice already. I think if you are passionate in the

way you make love, have some dirty talk while you're bossing him around to

give you what you need, he will enjoy it a lot. Especially, if he teases

you and you have to cry out with anticipation and beg him to fuck you! Men

get turned on by words as much as anything else. I feel like you do also,

is it fair, since he'll have to do most of the work? But they do it anyway.

Just keep leading him in the right direction, try different positions, get

some whipped cream, and enjoy some multiple orgasms!

Meg.

Taboo

hI Kimi,ALana, MEg,and all

Im back to ask all u people a taboo stuff..or atleast

i feel it to be a taboo..for me.

I get my minds open when peoples opnion bout it...and

please dont feel bad bout wat im gonna say and

ask...its just taut of sharing my views to u people.

" SmA women and SeX "

Being a SMA gal i feel when it comes to sex, i feel im

not right person for it. since sex if full of action

generally..i feel awful that action and me are not

that connected

Yup i have never had once till time ...even thou its

like a no word for my mind.

MY QUESTION WUD BE... IS IT OK TO HAV SEX,WHEN U PLAY

A LIL ROLE IN DOIN STUFFS[ ] SORRY ...?

OR EVEN TO HAV SEX..IS IT TO BE PLANNED FOR OUR

COMFORT?

Please let me kno wat u people thing bout it..if its ok..

Love u

__________________________________

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LOL, Meg you are not alone!

--- " Meg W. " <pink-tulip@...> wrote:

> I feel like everyone is having sex but me!

>

> Fuck! This sucks! *LOL*

>

> Meg.

>

>

> Re: Taboo

>

> hi deepa,

>

> it is indeed difficult to imagine people with

> disabilities being

> sexual because we almost never see it in movies or

> hear about it in

> the non-disabled world. i have been sexually active

> since i was 20,

> and the scariest part was worrying about being

> desirable to a partner

> and being able to physically do things that were

> satisfying to both

> of us. i have been pleasantly surprised to learn

> that even with very

> limited mobility i can have a great sex life, and do

> have a great sex

> life!

>

> there are a number of things that have helped me

> gain confidence and

> enjoy my sex life. i must tell you, though, it's

> not magical except

> for the romantic feelings. the physical logistics

> are awkward,

> funny, tedious, sticky and very human...lol.

> communication is the

> most important part, and i had to learn to be

> comfortable

> saying, " lift my arm so i can hug you, " and " put my

> hand on blah blah

> body part. " my non-disabled women friends also

> explain their

> difficulties with communication during sex. it's

> difficult at first

> to tell a partner that a particular way they are

> touching you doesn't

> feel good and that it would feel nice if they would

> touch you in

> another way or place. most of my partners have

> found this type of

> direct communication to be very sexy and a turn-on.

> it's such a

> relief if we actually know our partner is happy and

> not faking

> pleasure.

>

> i learned a lot by talking with disabled and

> non-disabled friends who

> had more sexual experience than me. i also read a

> lot of books.

> here are some i can recommend:

>

> With the Power of Each Breath: A Disabled Women's

> Anthology

> by Debra Connors, E. Browne, Nanci Stern

> (Editors)

>

> Our Bodies, Ourselves : A New Edition for a New Era

> by Boston Women's Health Book Collective

>

> Sex Matters for Women: A Complete Guide to Taking

> Care of Your Sexual

> Self

> by Sallie Foley, Sally A. Kope, Dennis P. Sugrue

>

> With Wings: An Anthology of Literature by and About

> Women With

> Disabilities

> by Marsha Saxton (Editor), Florence Howe (Editor)

>

> Bigger Than the Sky: Disabled Women on Parenting

> by Michele Wates (Editor)

>

> The Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability: For All of

> Us Who Live with

> Disabilities, Chronic Pain and Illness

> by Cory Silverberg, Miriam Kaufman, Fran Odette

>

> Enjoy!

>

> Alana

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LOL...I'm not one of those women, I guess.

>

> In a message dated 12/30/2005 5:00:11 P.M. Central Standard Time,

> Ksmile96@a... writes:

>

> Most men have a higher sex drive than most woman

>

> Hmmmm really? LOL

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In a message dated 12/31/2005 12:19:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

alrt@... writes:

LOL...I'm not one of those women, I guess.

Hey guys, I didn't say ALL, but eventho it stereotypical...men are known for

their huge sex drives more than woman . I'm not sure I have the same sex

drive as 's. but ask anyone who knows me well...sex is on the brain a

hell of a lot, haha . Plus, dating a DA guy, I've had to get creative....

Kimi

[Guest guest]

My husband [type 2] and I have a very healthy/active sex life. I dont see

whats so 'taboo' about it?

Love, Peace and Green Day,

Ali +

Re: Taboo

Remember disabled men too.....

Unfortunately, it is still taboo for most people with disabilities.

Hell, as recently as the 1970s Americans with disabilities were still

subject to court-ordered forced sterilization.

A guy on Duchenne's listserv got reported to the agency for " sexual

harrassment " just because a nurse caught him masturbating (in his own

house) in the urinal she gave him and freaked out. This is the

predominant attitude in most parts of the US, that people with

disabilities should not be sexual and we shouldn't see it or talk about

it. .

How do we change this? How do we go from taboo to no taboo?

Nick

Simone Egerter wrote:

>Deepa,

>

>That's not taboo at all. Lots of people think that

>disabled women can't have sex, but we can. I don't

>know about the others but for Steve and I, it's

>spontaneous, we don't plan it at all. I think the

>main thing to realize is that you are a woman,

>disabled or not we have the same needs and desires and

>AB people.

>

>Simone

>

>--- deepa narasimhan <deepatarzan@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>>hI Kimi,ALana, MEg,and all

>>

>>Im back to ask all u people a taboo stuff..or

>>atleast

>>i feel it to be a taboo..for me.

>>I get my minds open when peoples opnion bout

>>it...and

>>please dont feel bad bout wat im gonna say and

>>ask...its just taut of sharing my views to u people.

>>

>> " SmA women and SeX "

>>

>>Being a SMA gal i feel when it comes to sex, i feel

>>im

>>not right person for it. since sex if full of action

>>generally..i feel awful that action and me are not

>>that connected

>>Yup i have never had once till time ...even thou its

>>like a no word for my mind.

>>

>>MY QUESTION WUD BE... IS IT OK TO HAV SEX,WHEN U

>>PLAY

>>A LIL ROLE IN DOIN STUFFS[ ] SORRY ...?

>>OR EVEN TO HAV SEX..IS IT TO BE PLANNED FOR OUR

>>COMFORT?

>>

>>Please let me kno wat u people thing bout it..if its

>>ok..

>>

>>Love u

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I think this is very much a question of what is happening in one's

mind.

I have several disabled friends who are much more handicaped than I

am and have a great sex life. They never think about what the man

could think about their bodies and about the big amount of help they

need. On the other hand several of my friends with just minor

handicaps never had sex up to now as they are just thinking and

thinking and thinking about what horrible things could happen.

Furthermore I am convinced that it is a question of who you meet at

which moment in your life.

Happy New Year!

Camilla

>

> " SmA women and SeX "

>

> Being a SMA gal i feel when it comes to sex, i feel im

> not right person for it. since sex if full of action

> generally..i feel awful that action and me are not

> that connected

> Yup i have never had once till time ...even thou its

> like a no word for my mind.

>

> MY QUESTION WUD BE... IS IT OK TO HAV SEX,WHEN U PLAY

> A LIL ROLE IN DOIN STUFFS[ ] SORRY ...?

> OR EVEN TO HAV SEX..IS IT TO BE PLANNED FOR OUR

> COMFORT?

>

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>

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[Guest guest]

Jeez, I feel like a real Jezebel! I had 6 sexual partners before I married

when I was 33. My first experience was when I was 18. It's funny, but

all of my partners BEFORE were able-bodied.

I've always had a good feeling about my body, despite being only 70 lbs. That

has a lot to do with your sexual attractiveness. If you think that you're

attractive, you are attractive to others. Personality is 90% of the equation.

Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Vicki

[Guest guest]

Here's my hand up to count me as one who is not sexually active. And

I am proud of it! It takes a lot more self-control and self-respect

to save ones sexuality for that special person.

Lori

>

> LOL, Meg you are not alone!

>

>

>

> --- " Meg W. " <pink-tulip@a...> wrote:

>

> > I feel like everyone is having sex but me!

> >

> > Fuck! This sucks! *LOL*

> >

> > Meg.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Alana,

I'm not one of those women either. Its odd. Men hit their sexual peak in

their 20s, women in their 30s. I started peaking at 17...Damn! Unless I

find an energetic man, I'll be climbing the walls when I hit 30! *LOL*

Congrats on your house!

Happy 2006!

Meg.

Re: Taboo

LOL...I'm not one of those women, I guess.

>

> In a message dated 12/30/2005 5:00:11 P.M. Central Standard Time,

> Ksmile96@a... writes:

>

> Most men have a higher sex drive than most woman

>

> Hmmmm really? LOL

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lori,

I've never been touched by a man (only by me) and I also want to save myself

for that special person.

There are many very sexually-frustrated virgins out there!

Maybe we should form a support group. *LOL*

Meg

Re: Taboo

Here's my hand up to count me as one who is not sexually active. And

I am proud of it! It takes a lot more self-control and self-respect

to save ones sexuality for that special person.

Lori

>

> LOL, Meg you are not alone!

>

>

>

> --- " Meg W. " <pink-tulip@a...> wrote:

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> > I feel like everyone is having sex but me!

> >

> > Fuck! This sucks! *LOL*

> >

> > Meg.

> >

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Meg,

I know how you feel, I stayed a virgin until Steve and

I were married, by choice. I promise you'll find him

when you least expect it, and you'll be happy you

waited. If you ever wanna vent, just IM me!

Simone

--- " Meg W. " <pink-tulip@...> wrote:

> Lori,

>

> I've never been touched by a man (only by me) and I

> also want to save myself

> for that special person.

>

> There are many very sexually-frustrated virgins out

> there!

>

> Maybe we should form a support group. *LOL*

>

> Meg

>

>

>

> Re: Taboo

>

> Here's my hand up to count me as one who is not

> sexually active. And

> I am proud of it! It takes a lot more self-control

> and self-respect

> to save ones sexuality for that special person.

>

> Lori

>

>

> >

> > LOL, Meg you are not alone!

> >

> >

> >

> > --- " Meg W. " <pink-tulip@a...> wrote:

> >

> > > I feel like everyone is having sex but me!

> > >

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> > >

> > > Meg.

> > >

> > >

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In a message dated 12/31/2005 5:09:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

VickiLJurney@... writes:

Jeez, I feel like a real Jezebel! I had 6 sexual partners before I married

when I was 33. My first experience was when I was 18. It's funny,

but

all of my partners BEFORE were able-bodied.

I've always had a good feeling about my body, despite being only 70 lbs.

That

has a lot to do with your sexual attractiveness

If you're a jezebel, I'm a downright slut.

And amen - I agree. Self acceptance and confidence are a must.

Amy

Wife to Will 11/3/95

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing your beliefs, Lori. Just for the record, I agree with

you.

-e

In a message dated 12/31/2005 6:17:04 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

LKMartz@... writes:

Hormones change, just like the weather. It's easy to just give in to

them rather than practicing self-control and discipline. Just turn on

tv or open a magazine, sex is every where. It seems like every one is

doing it - perhaps this may contribute to the high divorce rate and

people cheating on each other and unfaithfullness.

Waiting for marriage (or in the case for us on disability financial

support than often decreases when you get married) deeply commited

relationship is much better in the long run. If I am struggling with

my self-image and my sexual side, if I know my partner and I have

saved ourselves, we can be sure that we aren't comparing each other

with people we've been with before or thinking that I am not good enough.

This belief is so contrary to the majority. Look at the pain people

deal with when they find their partner sleeping with someone else. If

I can't discipline myself to wait for that committed relationship, how

can I maintain that faithfullness when the hormones rage again, or

relationships go through difficult times and someone else catches my

eye, and a million other scenarios.

I will refrain from this topic cuz this list is about SMA. I had to

express contrary opinions to what is being expressed by many on the list.

Lori

[Guest guest]

vicki...i'm one of the jezabels, too...lol...still " living in sin " .

but in all seriousness, simone earlier on the this thread said to meg

that she'll be happy that she waited for the right

partner...preserving virginity was the topic. reading this reminded

me how very diverse this list is. it's so important for each

individual to follow her or his heart on this issue of sex. some

have spiritual and/or ethical beliefs that guide them to maintain

their virginity until they marry or go through some sort of

sanctioned joining. i myself am glad i didn't wait for the right man

or woman. i've learned so much from each partner both emotionally

and physically, and i've really enjoyed my relationships [except for

that one asshole ]. i don't have spiritual, ethical beliefs or

family pressure that disagree with other than what i have done, so

this has made my choices right for me.

people should definitely follow their hearts while paying attention

to their hormones.

alana

>

> Jeez, I feel like a real Jezebel! I had 6 sexual partners before I

married