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Monday, July 18, 2005, 2:23:37 PM, you wrote:

s> Hello fellow bandsters!!! I am starting on my 3rd week post op and am

s> realizing that I am eating more than I expected to eat but less than I

s> used to eat. I have a question; at lunch I am so used to eating my

s> lunch and then going to get desert. I used to get three or four

s> chocolate chip cookies or a very large piece of cake. Here recently I

s> have been eating about 2 tablespoons of peach cobbler....without eating

s> the crust. Will that bit of cobbler hender my weight loss?

Well, sounds like you're eating in a company cafeteria or something

like that. And the two spoons of cobbler is certainly an improvement.

Will it hinder your weight loss? Well, yes and no. It isn't the

worst choice you could make. But it still gets down to one thing:

calories taken in vs. calories burned

So if there are a hundred calories in that....and there are probably a

couple hundred...

But a hundred calories a day for a month is a pound for that

month...that either you gained, or didn't lose.

So....like always, all up to you.

dan

Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk

Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03

323/209/199 Age 62 Fair is whatever God decides to do.

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Of course, anything that is unneeded calories will hinder weight

loss! But this is not a prison - give yourself regular treats, maybe

once a week.

A good calorie goal for most Bandster women is 1200-1500 cal a day,

but this is tough until you get to a good fill level and are

satisfied with only small amounts. This 1200-1500 cal should include

50-60 grams of protein, 25-30 of fiber, and 1200-1500 mh of calcium.

With a good fill, you'll need all your room to get these in, and will

not have much (if any) room for non-Band foods.

Since the first 6-8 weeks are for healing and not for weight loss,

you can eat a bit more leniently now - but every morsel you put into

your mouth counts and adds up. SAdly, calories will always count for

us.

If you have not yet used FitDay.com, I'd strongly recommend you do

for a few weeks minimum, so you get a good feel for the calories in

foods, and what foods wil provide the things we need.

Even a few bites of something adds up and will ned to be compensated

for, if you want good weight loss.

As an example, one glass of OJ a day for a year will add 12.5# a year

alone. SAndy R

> Hello fellow bandsters!!! I am starting on my 3rd week post op and

am

> realizing that I am eating more than I expected to eat but less

than I

> used to eat. I have a question; at lunch I am so used to eating my

> lunch and then going to get desert. I used to get three or four

> chocolate chip cookies or a very large piece of cake. Here recently

I

> have been eating about 2 tablespoons of peach cobbler....without

eating

> the crust. Will that bit of cobbler hender my weight loss?

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Eating for Life is a great book by Bill (His book Body for Life is

great too) I had great success 5

or 6 years ago on BodyforLife. BodyforLife is eating 6x per day with a portion

of lean protein/veggies/

good carbs at each meal. Great way to eat!

I am cutting my portions way down starting today, and I always go back to the

BFL philosophy.

Best of health,

Cheryl

Iowa

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Hi, April!

Have you ever looked into a gluten-free, casein-free diet (gfcf)?

Picky eating is not uncommon at all for kids on the spectrum. I

struggle with this with my soon-to-be 4yo little guy. Here's a link

that does a fairly good job of explaining it:

http://www.glutensolutions.com/autism.htm

At the very least, try to get him off of the garbage food (i.e.,

pudding, tea - caffeine - Sprite, etc.).

Because is such a picky eater and he won't touch ANY veggies,

I started making him smoothies. If Rusty likes fruit, you could

probably get him to drink a smoothie. I pack mine with different

fruit juices and veggies (mostly steamed carrots or fresh spinach or

canned beets, etc.). I also have a juicer and make fresh veggie juice

to mix in there from time-to-time.

Timmy has been on a gfcf diet for almost two months now and we are

noticing wonderful changes in him (mostely, I think, from the removal

of casein from his diet - that change was pretty much over night!).

I know of a great gfcf group if you're interested in hooking up

with one. I also have a blog (that I haven't posted to in a while but

that's just cuz life has gotten so busy for me and I WILL get back to

it LOL!) related to Timmy's diet that you could visit if you want:

http://gfcfbound.blogspot.com/.

If you have any questions, please feel free to email me at:

beedo4me@....

Hugs!

Kat

Snip-------

....Rusty made amazing progress in all aspects with the exception of

his eating habits.

This is where we are still have a daily struggle. Ever since we

transitioned Rusty from " baby food " to " table food " . He stopped

eating. For an entire year he only ate crackers with nothing on

them, and drank 3-4 8oz cans of Pedia-Sure on a daily basis. When he

stopped taking his bottle, he stopped taking the Pedia-Sure. He

didn't start eating anything new either.

Now his diet consists of chocolate snack pack puddings " ONLY " fruit

of all kinds, french fries, " rarely " a hot dog.

He only drinks sweet tea and sprite that is all.

> Oh, he has what has a " geographic tongue " . Which looks

like " thrush " . Anyone heard of this before?? and what is its effects

on eating?

>

> All advice welcome,

> Thanks,

> April Waybright

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC

and save big.

>

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Hi, April!

Have you ever looked into a gluten-free, casein-free diet (gfcf)?

Picky eating is not uncommon at all for kids on the spectrum. I

struggle with this with my soon-to-be 4yo little guy. Here's a link

that does a fairly good job of explaining it:

http://www.glutensolutions.com/autism.htm

At the very least, try to get him off of the garbage food (i.e.,

pudding, tea - caffeine - Sprite, etc.).

Because is such a picky eater and he won't touch ANY veggies,

I started making him smoothies. If Rusty likes fruit, you could

probably get him to drink a smoothie. I pack mine with different

fruit juices and veggies (mostly steamed carrots or fresh spinach or

canned beets, etc.). I also have a juicer and make fresh veggie juice

to mix in there from time-to-time.

Timmy has been on a gfcf diet for almost two months now and we are

noticing wonderful changes in him (mostely, I think, from the removal

of casein from his diet - that change was pretty much over night!).

I know of a great gfcf group if you're interested in hooking up

with one. I also have a blog (that I haven't posted to in a while but

that's just cuz life has gotten so busy for me and I WILL get back to

it LOL!) related to Timmy's diet that you could visit if you want:

http://gfcfbound.blogspot.com/.

If you have any questions, please feel free to email me at:

beedo4me@....

Hugs!

Kat

Snip-------

....Rusty made amazing progress in all aspects with the exception of

his eating habits.

This is where we are still have a daily struggle. Ever since we

transitioned Rusty from " baby food " to " table food " . He stopped

eating. For an entire year he only ate crackers with nothing on

them, and drank 3-4 8oz cans of Pedia-Sure on a daily basis. When he

stopped taking his bottle, he stopped taking the Pedia-Sure. He

didn't start eating anything new either.

Now his diet consists of chocolate snack pack puddings " ONLY " fruit

of all kinds, french fries, " rarely " a hot dog.

He only drinks sweet tea and sprite that is all.

> Oh, he has what has a " geographic tongue " . Which looks

like " thrush " . Anyone heard of this before?? and what is its effects

on eating?

>

> All advice welcome,

> Thanks,

> April Waybright

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC

and save big.

>

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Rusty has a severe yeast problem and if you settle that down he

should feel better and his behaviors will definitely get better too.

What state are you in?

>

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> My name is April and I need advice, to start let me give you a

little brief history report...

> Rusty was diagnosed with Autism in Oct of 04'. We immediately

enrolled with the WV Birth To Three program, which took us on an

amazing adventure of learning. Rusty made amazing progress in all

aspects with the exception of his eating habits.

> This is where we are still have a daily struggle. Ever since we

transitioned Rusty from " baby food " to " table food " . He stopped

eating. For an entire year he only ate crackers with nothing on

them, and drank 3-4 8oz cans of Pedia-Sure on a daily basis. When

he stopped taking his bottle, he stopped taking the Pedia-Sure. He

didn't start eating anything new either.

> Now his diet consists of chocolate snack pack puddings " ONLY "

fruit of all kinds, french fries, " rarely " a hot dog.

> He only drinks sweet tea and sprite that is all.

> Oh, he has what has a " geographic tongue " . Which looks

like " thrush " . Anyone heard of this before?? and what is its

effects on eating?

>

> All advice welcome,

> Thanks,

> April Waybright

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC

and save big.

>

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Hi Selma,

Have to give you kudos for your attitude toward your health.

You show how persistance and discipline can yield great benefits.

You should be very proud of yourself! I'm sure it's not been easy.

{Being persistent and consistent is something I aspire to. Haven't

reached!}

Best,

ellen

>

> , I read the column today, before I saw your post here.

>

> I suffered from diarrhea for decades (since my adolescence). My

> problems were somehow related to a mild gastritis I had. Even without

> gastritis, diarrhea would persist to the point I could not digest

> anything (literally anything) sometime in 96. There was a month I

> thought I was going to die, because I had been losing so much weight

> and could not digest even boiled potatoes.

>

> It was then that my eating habits changed drastically. Avoidance of

> anything processed (white rice, white wheat, white sugar etc). Then I

> started doing more and more accupressure/ shiatsu or shiatsu with

> essential oils to relief tummy aches and be able to sleep.

>

> I can't help you much on what Buhner recommends, but I just empathize

> with you.

>

> A big turning point on my problem was this diet back in 96, but I was

> still unable to wear trousers (any pressure on my stomach/ intestines

> would cause me pains and diarrhea).

>

> Second big turning was homeopathic treatment (consistent, classic

> homeopathy). Discovering your main element, etc. It took me about 5-6

> months to feel clear improvement. That was sometime in 2001. I

> continued for years on homeopathic treatment, but always getting

> slowly better. I'm a big believer of it now. But I was still not

> 100%, but muuuuch better. Back to trousers again.

>

> Third big turning point was lyme treatment this year. Somehow, I'm

> now better than before in my gut. I suppose no-wheat, no-spelt, no-

> milk derivate products are a big YES to my gut. No more tummy pains,

> no more loose bowel movements. Then there was chlorella, my magic

> herb for a while. Someohow it cleanses wonderful our bowels. And I

> suppose some of the antiparasitic stuff helped too. I'm think I'm

> definitively free of diarrhea and tummy pains that haunted me for

> decades.

>

> Well, my problem now is lyme!! Geee!!!! Not a big 'deal' though, but

> anyway...

>

> I long for a big spaghetti sometimes or pizza, but I can control

> myself quite well!

>

> I'm now suffering from liver ailments, maybe the new Milk thistle I

> chose to take was not good enough... Or maybe too much heavy metal

> cleansing... I don't know the reason yet.

>

> Hope you'll find a solution soon to your problem!

>

> Selma

>

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Hi Ellen, thanks for the encouragement.

I do have fallbacks, but I learn fast that they are not the way to go.

I go out with friends, family and sometimes there's nothing in a menu I

was supposed to be eating. So I try to choose the least worse.

Sometimes I feel nothing bad after the 'bad' meal, then I would start

skipping my diet for a while. After few meals, I realize, ops,

something is going bad again. Then I go back.

I somehow had no choice on what I've been doing, to tell you the truth.

The two times I changed my eating habits were when I was in real health

trouble. I continued eating rather well after 96, and I think I will

continue eating even more strict if lyme is one day beaten.

But I do find that controlling eating habits is one of the most

difficult thing to do for a person. There are just too many attractive

things calling our attention all the time, specially sweets, pastas,

friends and other people eating 'bad' stuff.

But I find that if you can cut ONE THING you really like to eat

regularly, no matter for what reason, you can cut anything else. If you

can't cut this one thing you're attached to, you won't be able to get

stuck to most diets. My husband, I'm pretty sure, will rather preffer

to be dead than to do a no-wheat, no-sugar diet.

I find that with lyme disease, that was an advantage to me. When my

naturopath told me " stop eating milk products and wheat " , I started

doing that in a few days. I know most patients will never really do

that if they're not close to death. I never thought wheat was doing

someting bad to me. Now that I stopped it, I believe it was. If I eat a

few meals with wheat, I feel fatigue coming back. It takes only a few

meals.

It's though hard to start doing diet from zero when we're sick, weak,

without a clear brain. I know it's not easy changing our eating,

cooking habits, even shopping habits, etc. But it can turn into a big

advantage for the ones with cronic diseases. Your body will thank you!

I was exactly thinking to start a post on cooking easy but healthy

stuff!

Selma

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Selma said: " I was exactly thinking to start a post on cooking easy

but healthy stuff! "

Oh, I'd love to see this.

(My idea of cooking easy is to put a 'healthy' frozen dinner in the

oven!-lol)

I hear so much about wheat- such a common allergen as well as being a

practically ubiquitous food.

Changing habits - for me I have to be mentally aligned with the idea

first. Sometimes my mind can really screw me! One day I went to

breakfast with a friend, and I thot for a " treat " I would eat waffles

with syrup and butter!

After I got home, I went for a long walk. About 30 minutes from my

house, all of a sudden, the world was spinning, and I had to lean on a

tree. I know it was the sugar + the lack of anyting substantive all

morning. I made it home, just barely.

It's ironic bec. I thot of it as a " treat " altho I know full well what

can result.

ellen

> Hi Ellen, thanks for the encouragement.

>

> I do have fallbacks, but I learn fast that they are not the way to go.

> I go out with friends, family and sometimes there's nothing in a menu I

> was supposed to be eating. So I try to choose the least worse.

>

> Sometimes I feel nothing bad after the 'bad' meal, then I would start

> skipping my diet for a while. After few meals, I realize, ops,

> something is going bad again. Then I go back.

>

> I somehow had no choice on what I've been doing, to tell you the truth.

> The two times I changed my eating habits were when I was in real health

> trouble. I continued eating rather well after 96, and I think I will

> continue eating even more strict if lyme is one day beaten.

>

> But I do find that controlling eating habits is one of the most

> difficult thing to do for a person. There are just too many attractive

> things calling our attention all the time, specially sweets, pastas,

> friends and other people eating 'bad' stuff.

>

> But I find that if you can cut ONE THING you really like to eat

> regularly, no matter for what reason, you can cut anything else. If you

> can't cut this one thing you're attached to, you won't be able to get

> stuck to most diets. My husband, I'm pretty sure, will rather preffer

> to be dead than to do a no-wheat, no-sugar diet.

>

> I find that with lyme disease, that was an advantage to me. When my

> naturopath told me " stop eating milk products and wheat " , I started

> doing that in a few days. I know most patients will never really do

> that if they're not close to death. I never thought wheat was doing

> someting bad to me. Now that I stopped it, I believe it was. If I eat a

> few meals with wheat, I feel fatigue coming back. It takes only a few

> meals.

>

> It's though hard to start doing diet from zero when we're sick, weak,

> without a clear brain. I know it's not easy changing our eating,

> cooking habits, even shopping habits, etc. But it can turn into a big

> advantage for the ones with cronic diseases. Your body will thank you!

>

> I was exactly thinking to start a post on cooking easy but healthy

> stuff!

>

> Selma

>

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