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christine, for numerous years i was on abx treatment.....and numerous

cocktails as u are.......after about 5 years straight my llmd and myself

decided to give my body a break ......long term abx can cause complications

in ur bodie and as we have all found out.....things easily taken care of

before(sinus infections) now seem to last forever......while on abx before

stopping about 8 months ago......i felt they were doing nothing as i could

not funtion totally.....and was still disabled........however since being of

i realize that they all did do something to lessenb the severity of my

symptoms......thje last 3 months as most of u know i have been living in

hell.....pain fatigue....nuero the works.......that is why i am ready to try

another course of abx.......even a little relief would be welcome rite

now...........unfouranatly i feel that my life will be a merry go round as

far as abx(sorry kim) as that has been my experiance so far.......waiting for

the miracle but have been told that this disease has allready done lots of

irreversable damage.......i know the feeling u r a=going thru sometimes i

felt i would glow with all the meds i was on.......

Reid....nnj

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In a message dated 6/30/99 8:52:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

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<< ....thje last 3 months as most of u know i have been living in

hell.....pain fatigue....nuero the works.......that is why i am ready to try

another course of abx.......even a little relief would be welcome rite

now...........unfouranatly i feel that my life will be a merry go round as

far as abx(sorry kim) as that has been my experiance so far.......waiting

for

the miracle but have been told that this disease has allready done lots of

>>

Reid,

I hope your next treatment allows you to get some relief. It sounds like

even taking the edge off all the pain your going through would help. My

pharmists at shoprite told me that I was keeping them in business. LOL My

Uncle has a doctor friend who does not believe in aggresive treatment for

lyme. He feels that I'm doing more harm then good and thinks that there is

more going on then " just lyme, babesia, and echrolisis " . I guess I have to

have faith in my LLMD and believe we are doing the right thing.

Feel better,

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yes keep the faith......however if it ends up being long term discuss with ur

doc...( yes u can do that) about long term affects .....us lymies should take

an active role in our treatment .....not just blindly follow a doc....even a

lyme literate one......i e mail my doc numerous info that i find on the

web.....he loves it as i have more time for research than he does......it was

a joint decision( as all of mine have been ) nbetween myself and

him....Reid...nj

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>From: Prinny328@...

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>Hi everyone,

>Do you ever think you are on too much antibotics. As of today, I'm on 1500mg

>of flaygl, 850mg of zithromax, weekly bicillian injections 2.1, mepron, and

>amantine. I go to a LLMD, but it justs sounds like sooo much. Is anyone

>eles on this antibotics?

>Thanks,

>christine

,

Is it working? Are you feeling better?

If it ain't broke don't fix it!

Sorry, weird Lyme mood tonight. I must be high on my 2 grams of Rocephin.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

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Hi Chrinstine, I was on tat much but jsut vame off recently because my liver

enzymes got really high. I don't think anything is too much if your body can

handle it and yu are feeling better. Are you feeling better on this

medication? Hope so-Val

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Hi Helen

What is the celexa for and at what dosage?

thank you in advance

Lea ; CT

> Hi ,

> I see Dr. Burr. I am on (6 gm IV Claforan/day in a 24 hour pump) 4

days

> a

> week soon to be on 12 gm 3 days/week. Also flagyl 4x/day, mepron, oral

> cytovene

> (antiviral for stealth viruses) oxycontin (pain) klonopin, celexa, diamox,

> supplements and whatever I forgot. Seems like a lot to me too but my

> babesiosis

> was very + again, as is my Lyme and stealth virus tests. (of course I am dx

> clinically but lucky me--tests are + too most times for whatever that

means)

> I

>

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In a message dated 7/2/99 6:51:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

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<< 4x/day, mepron, oral cytovene

(antiviral for stealth viruses) oxycontin (pain) klonopin, celexa, diamox,

supplements and whatever I forgot. Seems like a lot to me too but my

babesiosis

was very + again, as is my Lyme and stealth virus tests. (of course I am dx

clinically but lucky me--tests are + too most times for whatever that means)

I

guess I am filled with bugs. I was " better " but he felt that I definately

needed

more IV after IV Doxy.Extremely neuro and lots of pain >>

Helen,

My tests for babesia are also still extremely + after several rounds of

Zithromax and Mepron. My doc said that sometimes babesia can be stubborn..

Does Dr. B feel the same way? Does he feel it takes many rounds to erract

the babesia? I was diagnosed in 89 with lyme and just found out this Jan

that I have echrolis and babesia. Can the babesia be hard to get rid of

because I had it for many years without treatment? How long have you had

babesia? How much Mepron do you take? Sorry to pick your brain...Your sooo

lucky to be seeing the best doctor for lyme and co-infections.

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Hi ,

I see Dr. Burr. I am on (6 gm IV Claforan/day in a 24 hour pump) 4 days a

week soon to be on 12 gm 3 days/week. Also flagyl 4x/day, mepron, oral cytovene

(antiviral for stealth viruses) oxycontin (pain) klonopin, celexa, diamox,

supplements and whatever I forgot. Seems like a lot to me too but my babesiosis

was very + again, as is my Lyme and stealth virus tests. (of course I am dx

clinically but lucky me--tests are + too most times for whatever that means) I

guess I am filled with bugs. I was " better " but he felt that I definately needed

more IV after IV Doxy.Extremely neuro and lots of pain. About 10 days into the

Claforan I think I'm in a herx although I hate it. Then went to 9 gm and feel

more sick. After all this time you'd think I'd just know what a herx is. I do

but

think it's something else sometimes or else get so scared I'll be stuck in this

fog and ^ pain and profound fatigue. I have to think that this guy is smart

though. He knew I had more bugs to kill which is why he said continue IV. I see

him July 12 with whole family. Sometimes I find it especially hard to enjoy the

good times when I get them because seems within a short amount of time I am low

again. I do try to enjoy all the good moments but this thing makes me feel like

a

punching bag! Sorry guys, bad day. Tired of not making plans and being out

there.I am a realist and accept most of this the best I can but some days are

harder right? I trust my doctor. Will discuss all this next visit and let you

know. I really was in a coffin more than once and he got me out. Don't care to

go

there again. , more than you think, many of us are on a lot of meds. As

long as your labs. etc are OK and you really talk to your doc, go with your gut.

I have had many improvements with med changes just when I thought everyone was

crazy.

Hang in there

Helen in NJ

Prinny328@... wrote:

> From: Prinny328@...

>

> Hi everyone,

> Do you ever think you are on too much antibotics. As of today, I'm on 1500mg

> of flaygl, 850mg of zithromax, weekly bicillian injections 2.1, mepron, and

> amantine. I go to a LLMD, but it justs sounds like sooo much. Is anyone

> eles on this antibotics?

> Thanks,

> christine

>

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Hi Lea,

Celexa 40mg is the dose I am on. It is an antidepressant. Take care.

Helen

Memyo@... wrote:

> From: Memyo@...

>

> Hi Helen

> What is the celexa for and at what dosage?

> thank you in advance

> Lea ; CT

>

> > Hi ,

> > I see Dr. Burr. I am on (6 gm IV Claforan/day in a 24 hour pump) 4

> days

> > a

> > week soon to be on 12 gm 3 days/week. Also flagyl 4x/day, mepron, oral

> > cytovene

> > (antiviral for stealth viruses) oxycontin (pain) klonopin, celexa, diamox,

> > supplements and whatever I forgot. Seems like a lot to me too but my

> > babesiosis

> > was very + again, as is my Lyme and stealth virus tests. (of course I am dx

> > clinically but lucky me--tests are + too most times for whatever that

> means)

> > I

> >

>

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Dear ,

I was dx with Lyme in 93 but know I had it much longer. I was so busy

dealing with my daughters severe Lyme in 89-90 that I know I wasn't really " ill "

but soon after, although I went back to work part-time, I can see now that I had

many " sinus " problems, pressure, h/a etc. I've been out of work for close to

21/2

years and was out forever only hanging on by a thread for a long time before

that. I was dx with babesiosis15 months ago but Dr. B and I know I prob had it

forever. Yes, he thinks it can be hard to get rid of esp with trying to fight

Lyme, ehrlichiosis and stealth viruses. He feels you have to try to treat

co-infections first. No wonder I have been SO sick. He now wants me NOT to take

a

week off then do a 3 week course. He says that the (newest thinking) dose needs

to be constant--perhaps that will help me not relapse with babesiosis. I have

done at least 4-5 courses recently and many more within the past 15 months. Yes,

I am lucky to see him but that is a long story. I was at deaths door and a

" connection " MD got me in. I have seen several other LLMDs. Now though I think

everything is dx all together at last--I hope. Maybe with more hard work, I can

function at a certain level for a longer time. Since I was on IV Doxy for a long

time, the ehrlichiosis should be gone. I take 1 teaspoon (5cc) twice a day of

the

Mepron. Since I am on IV Claforan, I am not on Zithro with it but was when I

wasn't on IV. My PCR, antibody and Fish tests were all + for babesiosis

recently.

Ins co is a nightmare as usual. LUAT + in Dec and " pretty " + WB. Tons of other

evidence. I pray this will be covered. I am back in bed but am in a major herx

now. Happy to help when I can do it. Hang in there.

Helen in NJ

Prinny328@... wrote:

> From: Prinny328@...

>

> In a message dated 7/2/99 6:51:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> liveitup@... writes:

>

> << 4x/day, mepron, oral cytovene

> (antiviral for stealth viruses) oxycontin (pain) klonopin, celexa, diamox,

> supplements and whatever I forgot. Seems like a lot to me too but my

> babesiosis

> was very + again, as is my Lyme and stealth virus tests. (of course I am dx

> clinically but lucky me--tests are + too most times for whatever that means)

> I

> guess I am filled with bugs. I was " better " but he felt that I definately

> needed

> more IV after IV Doxy.Extremely neuro and lots of pain >>

>

> Helen,

> My tests for babesia are also still extremely + after several rounds of

> Zithromax and Mepron. My doc said that sometimes babesia can be stubborn..

> Does Dr. B feel the same way? Does he feel it takes many rounds to erract

> the babesia? I was diagnosed in 89 with lyme and just found out this Jan

> that I have echrolis and babesia. Can the babesia be hard to get rid of

> because I had it for many years without treatment? How long have you had

> babesia? How much Mepron do you take? Sorry to pick your brain...Your sooo

> lucky to be seeing the best doctor for lyme and co-infections.

>

>

>

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