soy milk

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the warning as I have been drinking soy milk for over 3 years.

[Guest guest]

Please inform me further re: connection between soy

milk and candidiasis.

I have just recently started avoiding soy milk and I

feel better. Candida symptoms may also be improving.

Thanks!

goldstar

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[Guest guest]

Soy milk is very high in Carbohydrates, which in exchange feed the " happy

go-lucky " candida fungus. Avoiding all carbs (and everything else that will

become glucose in our blood) will speed up the healing process. If you must

have a warm drink in the morning with milk (i.e. decaf coffee), drink it

with non-dairy creamer. Do not forget, though, that caffeine is also bad

for candida sufferers, so keeping it to one cup of decaf is best. I can

recommend a few books that have been very useful to me in the search for

info about this most damaging condition.

I promise, that after a while, it will become easier to be creative with the

foods you eat. You actually will be able to create pretty attractive

dishes.

I hope this info was helpful

- RE: soy milk

Please inform me further re: connection between soy

milk and candidiasis.

I have just recently started avoiding soy milk and I

feel better. Candida symptoms may also be improving.

Thanks!

goldstar

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

- RE: soy milk

Please inform me further re: connection between soy

milk and candidiasis.

I have just recently started avoiding soy milk and I

feel better. Candida symptoms may also be improving.

Thanks!

goldstar

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

what recipies?

RE: soy milkPlease inform me further re: connection between soymilk and candidiasis.I have just recently started avoiding soy milk and Ifeel better. Candida symptoms may also be improving.Thanks!goldstar__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I found this cookbook at the local library: " The Candida Control Cookbook " ,

by Gail Burton. It is pretty good! It does have some recipes with wheat,

but those can be avoided. Hope you can find it.

- Re: soy milk

what recipies?

RE: soy milk

Please inform me further re: connection between soy

milk and candidiasis.

I have just recently started avoiding soy milk and I

feel better. Candida symptoms may also be improving.

Thanks!

goldstar

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Actually not all soy milk is very high in Carbs. I drink soy milk all the

time and use Westsoy 100% Organic soy milk. It's unsweetened, has 5 grams of

carbs per serving and 9 grams of protein.

[Guest guest]

THanks for the tip! I'll have to find that brand!

- Re: Soy Milk

Actually not all soy milk is very high in Carbs. I drink soy milk all the

time and use Westsoy 100% Organic soy milk. It's unsweetened, has 5 grams of

carbs per serving and 9 grams of protein.

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Hi Everyone,

I just joined this list yesterday! So hello to you all, I look forward

to being here. Here's a bit about myself: I am 24 and just had a baby

in December (our first.) I had pains under my ribs for many months

during pregnancy, and they didn't go away after giving birth, so we went

to the doctor. Wonder of wonders, I found out that I have a candida

problem! I surprised so surprised! I thought my diet was EXTREMELY

healthy to begin with!

But, I do have a tendency to eat way too much fruit,and pregnancy puts

an extra strain on the body, and so forth.

I'm writing now to tell you a few things, and ask a question or two.

First, I see we're talking about soy milk. We own a soymilk machine; it

cost us $160 total to have the machine and 20 pounds of soybeans shipped

to us. We got this through the website www.fairviewfarms.com How

wonderful it is to have fresh, warm soymilk! And it's very cheap, after

the initial investment...less than $.20 a quart. We got the " "

beans which are not too beany tasting.

Also, I'm wondering about a possible connection between drinking enough

water, and candida. I'm almost finished reading The Yeast Connection,

from which I've learned a tremendous amount. What interests me is the

overlap of conditions that are caused by chronic dehydration and those

caused by yeast...for example, chronic fatigue, arthritis, and multiple

sclerosis. I learned this through the website for the book, Your Body's

Many Cries for Water: www.watercure2.com Has anyone else heard of such

a connection? Could it possibly be a real connection???

Last, I'm finding it impossible to lower my intake of carbohydrates.

I'm nursing, and I become ravenous very quickly sometimes, especially if

my previous meal did not include any carbohydrates combined with

proteins. I find myself grabbing for nuts and bananas...not the best

choices! Does anyone have a suggestion for a satisfying, quick

candida-diet snack?

Appreciately,

Marabel

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HI Marabel! Welcome. It is great to have a forum of this type to voice our

questions and also what we have learned. Sometimes I do feel I am the only

one with this problem! It is great that you have they soymilk machine, I'll

have to check that website. You are very well informed, which is going to

work wonders for you. Other books that I found helpful are: The Yeast

Syndrome,

by Trowbridge, and Candida Related Complex byk Winderlin. These two book

will actually go into much more detail than the Yeast Connection does, and

does provide with alternatives to prescription medications.

It does talk about pregnancy, and how the hormone increase encourages the

growth of yeast. It also talks about water, how we need to flush our

system, and clean it, and what better than water.

For snacks, if you are not allergic to eggs, having hardboiled eggs ready in

the frig helps with snacking. I am allergic to them, so I snack on celery,

pinenuts and macadamia nuts (highest on fat, lower on carbs), veggie juices

(I have a juicer), seltzer water with a slice of lime and a touch of Stevia

(safe sweetener). I do my best to not do nutrasweet, but a piece of

sugarless gum once in a while does help too!.

After a while, you will get used to it and not feel ravenous. That is how I

felt the first 6 weeks after being diagnosed.

Hope to hear from you soon! Thanks for the info about the websites!

- Re: soy milk

Hi Everyone,

I just joined this list yesterday! So hello to you all, I look forward

to being here. Here's a bit about myself: I am 24 and just had a baby

in December (our first.) I had pains under my ribs for many months

during pregnancy, and they didn't go away after giving birth, so we went

to the doctor. Wonder of wonders, I found out that I have a candida

problem! I surprised so surprised! I thought my diet was EXTREMELY

healthy to begin with!

But, I do have a tendency to eat way too much fruit,and pregnancy puts

an extra strain on the body, and so forth.

I'm writing now to tell you a few things, and ask a question or two.

First, I see we're talking about soy milk. We own a soymilk machine; it

cost us $160 total to have the machine and 20 pounds of soybeans shipped

to us. We got this through the website www.fairviewfarms.com How

wonderful it is to have fresh, warm soymilk! And it's very cheap, after

the initial investment...less than $.20 a quart. We got the " "

beans which are not too beany tasting.

Also, I'm wondering about a possible connection between drinking enough

water, and candida. I'm almost finished reading The Yeast Connection,

from which I've learned a tremendous amount. What interests me is the

overlap of conditions that are caused by chronic dehydration and those

caused by yeast...for example, chronic fatigue, arthritis, and multiple

sclerosis. I learned this through the website for the book, Your Body's

Many Cries for Water: www.watercure2.com Has anyone else heard of such

a connection? Could it possibly be a real connection???

Last, I'm finding it impossible to lower my intake of carbohydrates.

I'm nursing, and I become ravenous very quickly sometimes, especially if

my previous meal did not include any carbohydrates combined with

proteins. I find myself grabbing for nuts and bananas...not the best

choices! Does anyone have a suggestion for a satisfying, quick

candida-diet snack?

Appreciately,

Marabel

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[Guest guest]

Hi Marabel

Welcome to the list. I'm kind of new myself.. only joined last week and I'm

also 24 and got candida through using steroid and immunosuppresives for

chronic health problems.

It's hard for me to find a diet that suits me as I can't eat most products

due to chronic illness of the intestines.

[Guest guest]

As far as I know soy milk is ok - its ok with me anyway. It may

be that someone was saying that you should put soy milk on a 4day

rotation to avoid becoming allergic to it. I haven't done that and I

haven't become allergic to it, not yet at least.

Pete

> Why are some people telling people on the list to avoid soy milk

when they

> don't know how their bodies respond? I took an allergy test, I'm

not

> allergic to soy and so far don't seem to have a reaction. Is soy

milk

> universally bad for candida?

[Guest guest]

On 2 May 2001, at 9:35, lakep2001@... wrote:

> that someone was saying that you should put soy milk on a 4day

> rotation to avoid becoming allergic to it.

I'd second that - I had it most days for a while, and made myself

horribly allergic to it. Can't tolerate it at all now!

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[Guest guest]

The only reason that I can't have soy milk is that sugar is added to it. Maybe that is also the same reason people with candida can't have it. If there was a sugar free brand, I would have no hesitancy to buy it.

Re: soy milk

As far as I know soy milk is ok - its ok with me anyway. It may be that someone was saying that you should put soy milk on a 4day rotation to avoid becoming allergic to it. I haven't done that and I haven't become allergic to it, not yet at least.Pete> Why are some people telling people on the list to avoid soy milk when they > don't know how their bodies respond? I took an allergy test, I'm not > allergic to soy and so far don't seem to have a reaction. Is soy milk > universally bad for candida?Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE !

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My post was a reminder to because soy products

boosts estrogen in your body. I did know she was having

a similar problem. I have to go out of my

way to stay away from 3 & 6 omega acids because

my estrogen is so high. If this is not an issue for

you then by all means, eat!

LIZ D

> [Original Message]

> From: <Cis64@...>

> <candidiasis >

> Date: 5/2/01 2:05:23 AM

> Subject: soy milk

>

> Why are some people telling people on the list to avoid soy milk when

they

> don't know how their bodies respond? I took an allergy test, I'm not

> allergic to soy and so far don't seem to have a reaction. Is soy milk

> universally bad for candida?

>

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[Guest guest]

So why bother going to a doctor? If you know what you react badly to,

avoid it, it will make your healing that much easier.

Keen

soy milk

oh my god.. I was practically in a coma for the last 2 weeks because I

couldn't figure out why I was so extremely tired and not able to do

ANYTHING. I knew dairy milk I couldn't drink because of the same exact

reaction. But I didn't know Soy Milk could do the same thing. I would

sleep for 8 hours straight whenever I'd drink soy milk. It didn't

matter

what time of the day it was.I was pass out into a coma after drinking

it. I

had a bowl of cereal with soymilk at 4pm. I just woke up now at

midnight. I

get the simaler (but not as intense) reaction whenever I eat chicken.

Chicken are fed soybean to eat when their alive. So glad I finally

figured this crap out. throwing out ALL the soymilk now.

Was wondering if anyone else has had this reaction? Sometimes I get the

urge to check myself into a Mayo Clinic to find out thoroughly what the

heck

is going on in my body. Every blood and gastro-intestinal test comes

back

normal.. except for Candida.. but no doctors believe in this crap

anymore..

Am I the only one here that is EXTREMELY frustrated with nobody being

able

to figure out our illness?

If I go to my allergist and tell him that eating chicken or soybean

related

foods puts me into a fatigue so intense like a coma, he'd look at me

like im

nuts.

[Guest guest]

Newjersy23, STAY AWAY from Drs. They cost money and they will finish

you off if your only problem is candida. I went through 50 YEARS of

going to Drs. trying to figure out what was wrong and most of them

wanted me to go to a psychiatrist. THANK GOD for the internet or I

would probably be dead by now. They will tell you straight out they

don't beleive in candida as a problem. They only know what they are

taught and what they are taught you don't want to know about. Stop

frustrating yourself with Drs.

ANY allergy to any kind of food can make you sleep all the time. Does

not have to be Soy or milk. This is especially true if you are not

digesting properly or digesting slowely. Bowel cleanses are in order.

Steph

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Soy is a toxin. You should not eat it in any form. All the hype you hear

about it is just marketing.

Blessings,

Bonnie

newjersey23 <newjersey23@...> wrote:

oh my god.. I was practically in a coma for the last 2 weeks because I

couldn't figure out why I was so extremely tired and not able to do

ANYTHING. I knew dairy milk I couldn't drink because of the same exact

reaction. But I didn't know Soy Milk could do the same thing. I would

sleep for 8 hours straight whenever I'd drink soy milk. It didn't matter

what time of the day it was.I was pass out into a coma after drinking it. I

had a bowl of cereal with soymilk at 4pm. I just woke up now at midnight. I

get the simaler (but not as intense) reaction whenever I eat chicken.

Chicken are fed soybean to eat when their alive. So glad I finally

figured this crap out. throwing out ALL the soymilk now.

Was wondering if anyone else has had this reaction? Sometimes I get the

urge to check myself into a Mayo Clinic to find out thoroughly what the heck

is going on in my body. Every blood and gastro-intestinal test comes back

normal.. except for Candida.. but no doctors believe in this crap anymore..

Am I the only one here that is EXTREMELY frustrated with nobody being able

to figure out our illness?

If I go to my allergist and tell him that eating chicken or soybean related

foods puts me into a fatigue so intense like a coma, he'd look at me like im

nuts.

[Guest guest]

Bonnie is right....... something we thought was good for us, can turn you

into a very ill person, even kill you. You might do a search or google on the

dangers of SOY.

<>kathy<>

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bojesl@... writes:

Hi,

Soy is a toxin. You should not eat it in any form. All the hype you hear

about it is just marketing.

Blessings,

Bonnie

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[Guest guest]

>

> Is soy milk good for you to consume?

>

> Not just based on the candida diet, but ok in general

> for you.

>

No Sue, it's not good for you at all. Do a search for " soy " on Bee's

website and/or an archive message search at our group site. You'll

find lots of information to enlighten you about soy.

jackie

[Guest guest]

Re: soy milk. I have MS and follow the Best Bet Diet, which does not allow soy or soy milk. Even if you don't have MS, actually, even if you are healthy, soy is bad for you. There are many, many websites explaining why. I would get off the soy. I use rice milk, or, if you do nuts, almond milk is very good. Dairy is also bad, so I wouldn't use regular milk, either.

Good luck,

Beverly

[Guest guest]

No-one can say where you land, Doug, on the statistical bell curve of many

individuals. On average, soy as a protein supplement or staple food is harmful

enough to promote warnings. It's also illegal in infant formula in the UK,

something more than a warning.

Doncan

>

> I am back to this because I have a question. I drink a little less than 1 & 1/2

cups a day actually split up between 1/2 cup withmy mag,cal morning and one in

evening and a slurp in each of 3 coffees. Is that amount less than 1 & 1/2 cups a

day going to hurt me? Doug

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, will try to wean off of it with coc. milk and almond milk. Doug

From: DuncanC <duncancrow@...>

Subject: Re: Soy milk

candidiasis

Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 6:01 PM

 

No-one can say where you land, Doug, on the statistical bell

curve of many individuals. On average, soy as a protein supplement or staple

food is harmful enough to promote warnings. It's also illegal in infant formula

in the UK, something more than a warning.

Doncan

>

> I am back to this because I have a question. I drink a little less than 1 & 1/2

cups a day actually split up between 1/2 cup withmy mag,cal morning and one in

evening and a slurp in each of 3 coffees. Is that amount less than 1 & 1/2 cups a

day going to hurt me? Doug

>

[Guest guest]

What is wrong with milk from mammals? We are mammals, yes? We are not

vegetable!!!

Wil

________________________________

From: douglas richey <dglsrichey@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 7:02:43 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Soy milk

Thanks, will try to wean off of it with coc. milk and almond milk. Doug

From: DuncanC <duncancrowshaw (DOT) ca>

Subject: Re: Soy milk

candidiasis

Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 6:01 PM

No-one can say where you land, Doug, on the statistical bell curve of many

individuals. On average, soy as a protein supplement or staple food is harmful

enough to promote warnings. It's also illegal in infant formula in the UK,

something more than a warning.

Doncan

>

> I am back to this because I have a question. I drink a little less than 1 & 1/2

cups a day actually split up between 1/2 cup withmy mag,cal morning and one in

evening and a slurp in each of 3 coffees. Is that amount less than 1 & 1/2 cups a

day going to hurt me? Doug

>

[Guest guest]

I got prostate cancer from drinking too much milk and taking too much calcium.

When I dropped the milk and the calcium my PSA dropped from 10 to 4. Harvard

study backed that up. Doug

From: DuncanC <duncancrow@ shaw. ca>

Subject: Re: Soy milk

candidiasis

Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 6:01 PM

No-one can say where you land, Doug, on the statistical bell curve of many

individuals. On average, soy as a protein supplement or staple food is harmful

enough to promote warnings. It's also illegal in infant formula in the UK,

something more than a warning.

Doncan

>

> I am back to this because I have a question. I drink a little less than 1 & 1/2

cups a day actually split up between 1/2 cup withmy mag,cal morning and one in

evening and a slurp in each of 3 coffees. Is that amount less than 1 & 1/2 cups a

day going to hurt me? Doug

>