drinking lots of water

January 15, 2002

Yes I am drinking distilled water. I found a pretty good one for $99. The local

grocer carried bottled water but it is not distilled and the thought of carrying

7 gallons a week home is not what I considered fun. Since bottled water costs at

least $1 I'll be saving money in the long run. Some days, between making teas,

potassium broth and drinking I use a couple gallons of water. I used to never

drink water and would drink dehydrating drinks so I was caught in a viscious

cycle. It took about a week to finally drink a gallon of water a day on a

consistent basis. Doubling up on the amount of juice I make and drink at one

time has helped alot. Now I need to remember to pick up some gloves for my

hands, cleaning the juicer has them in water a lot and with the cold weather,

they are a little dry LOL.

Eileen

Drinking lots of water

I was amazed at the difference in the amount of water I could drink

between distilled and other water. I can drink 24 ounces of distilled

water at a time with no problem, when I could barely drink 16 ounces

of other water. It seems like there's something about distilled water

that the body wants and something about the other water that the body

doesn't want. Are you using distilled water? I know it's a pain to try

to drink so much liquid, so if you aren't, try to find some to see if

it helps.

> I personally have a hard time consuming both 8 glasses of water plus

8-14 glasses of juice while trying to keep 1/2 hour in between each of

them. of this message have been removed]

January 16, 2002

There are varying opinions on drinking distilled water and given the value of

minerals in staying healthy, I do wonder if Dr. Rona is correct. Dr. Zoltan

Rona is a well-known Canadian wholistic physician. You can read his article on

the Dangers of Distilled water at:

http://www.4optimallife.com/Distilled-Waters-Danger-To-Health.htm

Kallie

Drinking lots of water

I was amazed at the difference in the amount of water I could drink

between distilled and other water. I can drink 24 ounces of distilled

water at a time with no problem, when I could barely drink 16 ounces

of other water. It seems like there's something about distilled water

that the body wants and something about the other water that the body

doesn't want. Are you using distilled water? I know it's a pain to try

to drink so much liquid, so if you aren't, try to find some to see if

it helps.

> I personally have a hard time consuming both 8 glasses of water plus

8-14 glasses of juice while trying to keep 1/2 hour in between each of

them. of this message have been removed]

January 16, 2002

Hi Kallie,

Some people recommend a little natural sea salt to the water plus obtaining

natural minerals & enzymes from juicing is better than dealing with toxins,

antibiotics and other contaminates in undistilled water. It has also been

suggested to add coral calcium to distilled water to help with the ph concerns

of Dr Rona.

Eileen

Drinking lots of water

I was amazed at the difference in the amount of water I could drink

between distilled and other water. I can drink 24 ounces of distilled

water at a time with no problem, when I could barely drink 16 ounces

of other water. It seems like there's something about distilled water

that the body wants and something about the other water that the body

doesn't want. Are you using distilled water? I know it's a pain to try

to drink so much liquid, so if you aren't, try to find some to see if

it helps.

> I personally have a hard time consuming both 8 glasses of water plus

8-14 glasses of juice while trying to keep 1/2 hour in between each of

them. of this message have been removed]

January 16, 2002

Thanks Eileen

Kallie

Drinking lots of water

I was amazed at the difference in the amount of water I could drink

between distilled and other water. I can drink 24 ounces of distilled

water at a time with no problem, when I could barely drink 16 ounces

of other water. It seems like there's something about distilled water

that the body wants and something about the other water that the body

doesn't want. Are you using distilled water? I know it's a pain to try

to drink so much liquid, so if you aren't, try to find some to see if

it helps.

> I personally have a hard time consuming both 8 glasses of water plus

8-14 glasses of juice while trying to keep 1/2 hour in between each of

them. of this message have been removed]

January 16, 2002

Hello Kallie and others interested in this topic,

It is my understanding that the minerals in water are inorganic and not

assimilated as well as the organic minerals in fruits

and vegetables.

If anyone knows this is not a fact, please let me know. I have been distilling

and drinking my own water for over 25 years now and for the last 5 years

have been eating goodly amounts of raw vegetables and fruits and I am not aware

of any problems from this approach. ,

eager to hear others experiences and feedbacks in this matter...

Drinking lots of water

>

> I was amazed at the difference in the amount of water I could drink

> between distilled and other water. I can drink 24 ounces of distilled

> water at a time with no problem, when I could barely drink 16 ounces

> of other water. It seems like there's something about distilled water

> that the body wants and something about the other water that the body

> doesn't want. Are you using distilled water? I know it's a pain to try

> to drink so much liquid, so if you aren't, try to find some to see if

> it helps.

>

> > I personally have a hard time consuming both 8 glasses of water plus

> 8-14 glasses of juice while trying to keep 1/2 hour in between each of

> them. of this message have been removed]

>

January 16, 2002

Hi

In my research into alternative health, I have found arguments for and

against distilled water, reverse osmosis and filtered water. Since, I, too,

prefer to use as many raw, " live " foods in my diet as I can, I have chosen to

look at distilled water as " dead " or " cooked " water and do not choose to drink

distilled water. I, personally, have respect for Dr. Rona and what he says

about distilled water from his experience and I choose to not drink distilled on

his and other's recommendations.

It seems there are many paths to healing and many ways suggested that we eat and

drink for optimal health and every one of us chooses the best we can given the

knowledge we have at the time. It seems to me that you, , probably do

well with distilled water since you probably eat much more raw food than the

average person. I do know that there are lots of people saying that our soils

are lacking the minerals they used to have and our commercial growing methods do

not replenish these minerals. I would be interested in your response to this.

I have heard that Willard Water and the Water OZ minerals have been very

beneficial to people.

The members on this list share many different ways of healing their cancers

and I have learned that what each person chooses is the best for them.

I happen to think Hulda offers much to people and, in my opinion, does

not have the whole story. I have a mother who five years ago had a football

sized ovarian tumor removed which has spread to her lymphatics. As a previous

chemo-therapist in a cancer clinic and with some experience with alternative

methods, I did not want my mother to have chemotherapy which according to her

doctors gave her a 30% chance of surviving a couple of more years at the most.

She would have nothing to do with what I suggested at the time although did

agree to use a visualization tape I made for her. I studied years ago with Dr.

O. Carl Simonton. She used this tape 3 times a day and for every one of her six

chemo treatments. She never lost her hair nor had any nausea and her chemo was

Cis Platin.

Six months after she finished her chemo, she was more open to what I

suggested. She used a zapper to eliminate parasites, purchased a rebounder and

uses it still for 10 minutes every day, agreed to drink 2 quarts of water a day

and take a little celtic salt, (www.watercure.com), although it was from her

well and also agreed to purchase a unified negative field magnetic sleep pad.

She has not changed her diet which was old-fashioned good as it was all

home-cooked except for the " ice cream " . She takes a multi-vitamin, 800 units of

Vit. E, 3000 Vit.C and her calcium-magnesium-Vit. D as her only supplements.

She refused to even look at toxins in her environment as suggested by Hulda and

used bleach like it is water!! and slathers herself each day with skin lotion.

It is now 5 years to the week since she finished her chemotherapy. In her

November check-up, she is totally free of cancer, her CA125 is normal and at 84,

she outworks me!! Of course, she would not tell her cancer clinic physician,

who knows me personally, what else she did besides the chemo!!!

In addition, my father chose to use the zapper and since he slept in the

same bed with my mother, used the magnetic sleep pad. In seven weeks after

getting the magnetic pad, all his urinary problems from an early prostate cancer

disappeared and have not returned. His slightly elevated PSA has not been

checked for over two years had not risen in three years at the last check.

I give this example to show that there are many paths to healing and what

works for one may not work for another. I happen to believe the visualization

tape played a major part in healing some of her emotional wounds which in turned

supported her body into healing along with the other changes she made. She had

just come through a long period of major emotional stress over family in the

five years prior to her diagnosis.

If I became aware that I had cancer, from my research, I personally, would

chose to follow the Dr. Schultze, " Incurables Program " sold by Sam

Biser. I have that program on video and the manual. While it is intensive, it

appears to me to be effective and have not had personal experience with anyone

using that program. I would also use a rebounder, magnetic sleep pad, alkaline

water, and meditation or visualization.

In closing, I would add that I have a friend who 2 1/2 years ago was given a

couple of weeks to live with a brain tumor at age 51. He followed Hulda 's

protocol to the letter and went to her clinic in Mexico 3 or 4 times. He is

still living a reasonable life and his tumor, while not gone as seen on Cat scan

last fall, is smaller and he feels o.k. and he still follows Hulda's protocol

and anticipates full regression of his brain tumor.

Blessings

Kallie

Re: Drinking lots of water

> There are varying opinions on drinking distilled water and given the value

of minerals in staying healthy, I do wonder if Dr.

Rona is correct. Dr. Zoltan Rona is a well-known Canadian wholistic

physician. You can read his article on the Dangers of

Distilled water at:

>

> http://www.4optimallife.com/Distilled-Waters-Danger-To-Health.htm

>

January 17, 2002

A friend of mine has a sister with cancer in her kidneys. He tells me that

the survival rate of cancer patients on chemo is 18%. Survival rates on

alternative treatments is 98%. He also asked his sister's Dr. if he, (the

Dr.), had cancer, where would he go? The Dr. told him an alternative

treatment center in Tulsa, OK. Does anyone know of this treatment center in

Tulsa? If so, please send info to me. For future reference, I don't think

I'll ever go thru chemo again, although I was one of the lucky ones with few

side effects.

January 17, 2002

What is the difference between purified water and distilled water? Mildred

>From: " kallie miller " <4optimallife@...>

>Reply-cures for cancer

><cures for cancer >

>Subject: Re: Drinking lots of water

>Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:14:46 -0500

>

>There are varying opinions on drinking distilled water and given the value

>of minerals in staying healthy, I do wonder if Dr. Rona is correct. Dr.

>Zoltan Rona is a well-known Canadian wholistic physician. You can read his

>article on the Dangers of Distilled water at:

>

>http://www.4optimallife.com/Distilled-Waters-Danger-To-Health.htm

>

>Kallie

>

> Drinking lots of water

>

> I was amazed at the difference in the amount of water I could drink

> between distilled and other water. I can drink 24 ounces of distilled

> water at a time with no problem, when I could barely drink 16 ounces

> of other water. It seems like there's something about distilled water

> that the body wants and something about the other water that the body

> doesn't want. Are you using distilled water? I know it's a pain to try

> to drink so much liquid, so if you aren't, try to find some to see if

> it helps.

>

> > I personally have a hard time consuming both 8 glasses of water plus

> 8-14 glasses of juice while trying to keep 1/2 hour in between each of

> them. of this message have been removed]

>

January 17, 2002

I think the hospital you are referring to is called Cancer Treatment Centers

of America. I don't have the information on contacting them handy but you

can do a search and will find them very easily. If you have trouble, let me

know and I will get the info for you.

Flo

January 18, 2002

Dear Mildred:

I go by Dr. Rona's definition by which I think he means Reverse Osmosis. I

think distilled fits in there as well.

There is an article on his opinion of purified water here:

http://www.4optimallife.com/Purified-Water-Is-Bad-For-Your-Health.htm

Kallie

Drinking lots of water

> >

> > I was amazed at the difference in the amount of water I could drink

> > between distilled and other water. I can drink 24 ounces of distilled

> > water at a time with no problem, when I could barely drink 16 ounces

> > of other water. It seems like there's something about distilled water

> > that the body wants and something about the other water that the body

> > doesn't want. Are you using distilled water? I know it's a pain to try

> > to drink so much liquid, so if you aren't, try to find some to see if

> > it helps.

> >

> > > I personally have a hard time consuming both 8 glasses of water plus

> > 8-14 glasses of juice while trying to keep 1/2 hour in between each of

> > them. of this message have been removed]

> >

January 18, 2002

Dear Mildred:

I go by Dr. Rona's definition by which I think he means Reverse Osmosis. I

think distilled fits in there as well.

There is an article on his opinion of purified water here:

http://www.4optimallife.com/Purified-Water-Is-Bad-For-Your-Health.htm

Kallie

Re: Drinking lots of water

>

> What is the difference between purified water and distilled water?

Mildred

>

January 18, 2002

Dear Mildred:

I go by Dr. Rona's definition by which I think he means Reverse Osmosis. I

think distilled fits in there as well.

There is an article on his opinion of purified water here:

http://www.4optimallife.com/Purified-Water-Is-Bad-For-Your-Health.htm

Kallie

Re: Drinking lots of water

>

> What is the difference between purified water and distilled water?

Mildred

>

January 19, 2002

Hi Kallie,

Sorry for the delay in my reply, but i was not sure how to respond. It

appears you have delved into this matter more than i

have. I tend to be an advocate of Pastor Malkamus and his Hallelujah

Diet, in addition to his views on water and

minerals. And, except for the Rainsoft system, which i am not familiar with, i

tend to agree with Hunt's recent post

and views in this matter.

Take care Kallie, and God's blessings to you and yours... richard

Re: Drinking lots of water

>

> > There are varying opinions on drinking distilled water and given the value

of minerals in staying healthy, I do wonder if

Dr.

> Rona is correct. Dr. Zoltan Rona is a well-known Canadian wholistic

physician. You can read his article on the Dangers of

> Distilled water at:

> >

> > http://www.4optimallife.com/Distilled-Waters-Danger-To-Health.htm

> >

>

January 21, 2002

Did any of you try the E-water machine? If so, what was your

experience?

http://www.quantumbalancing.com/index.htm

QUOTE

" Now you can drink the " Fountain of Youth " in your own home. The

E-Water machine is a revolutionary new device that produces water

that surpasses Lorenzen Clustered water, Willard water, Nikken

PiMag water and Flanagan Micro cluster water in about 30

seconds! "

\\\

=(o o)=

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--V---+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>

>I was amazed at the difference in the amount of water I could drink

>between distilled and other water. I can drink 24 ounces of distilled

>water at a time with no problem, when I could barely drink 16 ounces

>of other water. It seems like there's something about distilled water

>that the body wants and something about the other water that the body

>doesn't want. Are you using distilled water? I know it's a pain to try

>to drink so much liquid, so if you aren't, try to find some to see if

>it helps.

>

>> I personally have a hard time consuming both 8 glasses of water plus

>8-14 glasses of juice while trying to keep 1/2 hour in between each of

>them. of this message have been removed]

>

>Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

>

January 22, 2002

Hi Poolsharkerett? (you didn't sign your name so I used your email name)

I do not give specific recommendations for treating any disease as I am not

licensed to do that. I have found in my experience that eliminating parasites

electronically or herbally, juicing, drinking alkalized water in the amounts

suggested at www.watercure.com, sleeping on a unified negative field magnetic

sleep pad or super magnetic bed, immune enhancing supplements and a meditative

or spiritual practice of some type are all beneficial. Lorraine Day recommends

reading the Bible and praying among many protocols. Some people are not in

agreement with Christianity and would rather practise their own spirituality. I

particularily like the visualization tape " White Light Healing Meditation " by

Dr. Ian Gawler, DVM who cured himself of terminal osteosarcoma quite a few years

ago. This is the tape my mother used to help her body heal from ovarian cancer.

The script for this meditation is available here as well as a link to Dr.

Gawler's site:

http://www.4optimallife.com/Alternative-Healing-Meditation.html Dr. Gawler is

from Australia and has written quite a few books which are fairly quickly

obtained. It took me about two weeks to get some of my copies. His publisher

also has published a cook book for health.

I you could research www.doctoryourself.com for cancer and search

" orthomolecular medicine " on a search engine. Dr. Abram Hoffer has some

recommendations for cancer on that site. You can go here and read about Dr.

Riordan who is having reportedly much success with cancer treatment:

http://www.brightspot.org/meet%20riordan.htm

I do believe that you can regain your health and strength and that one can heal

the body from chemotherapy. There are also excellent supplements on the market

for enhancing your immune system. In my opinion, you would be wise to refrain

from buying discounted supplements as their quality is could be quite suspect.

I do not sell supplements.

Aloe Immune is one that has been highly recommended to me. Here is the

information as to cost and where to obtain. A physician with a PSA of 286

reduced it to normal in four months using Aloe Immune and a unified negative

field magnetic sleep pad. Also, Duncan Crow recommends a product, Immunocal,

which has had reported benefits and if you are new to the list, you can go back

and read his posts.

Aloe Immune comes in two strengths and 90 capsules to a bottle - 150 mg. And 500

mg.capsules. You can call 800 807-4779, Al-Low & Associates in Texas to order

and for answers to questions. Email allow@... I think the Longevity Plus

sells it here: http://www.longevityplus.net/aloe_immune.htm A Dr. Dean

Bonlie, DDS, told me about it and says it is better than Ambrotose. Dean

invented and manufactures the unified negative field magnetic sleep pad which I

sell.

Dr. Ted Morter, Jr., D.C. has a clinic in , Arkansas which I know has

benefited two people with terminal cancer and another friend of mine who was

given two weeks to live with hairy cell leukemia, five years ago, went to

Dr. Robbins clinic in Tulsa, Oklahoma. She still uses a zapper, and sleeps

on a unified negative field magnetic sleep pad as well as continuing on with

protocols taught to her at Dr. Robbin's clinic, Both of these men emphasize

that the mind is a powerful healer as well as proper nutrition, detoxification

and cleansing. Education plays an important part in the treatment at these

clinics.

Ted Morter D.C., , Arkansas, 501-636-2804, Dr. Robbins, Tulsa,

Health & Wellness Clinic, Inc. 918-488-0444.

I have the Dr. Schultze " Incurables Program " tapes and manual sold by

Sam Biser and am quite impressed with it and have as yet not known anyone

personally who has completed it. A friend of mine is close to completing it

along with his wife. They both have cancer. www.sambiser.com

If you want traditional allopathic medicine along with alternative treatment,

Dr. Carl Simonton has much to offer. I studied with him 25 years ago. Some

information on his beliefs and a link to his web site can be found here:

http://www.4optimallife.com/Alternative-Cancer-Cures-Simonton-Method.htm

Cliff Beckworth on this very list gives us lots of reasons to use flax oil

and cottage cheese if we have cancer.

Hopefully, some of your questions are answered and you have lots of fun with

your research.

Sincerely

Kallie

Drinking lots of water

Hi Kallie,

I respect your opinion as stated in the above email. Hence, my reply.

I was diagnosed with breast cancer, stage IIB, in May, 2001. I had a

lumpectomy, mastectomy and 6 mos. of chemo. No radiation was needed. I did

not take my last chemo treatment however, and was taking Cytoxin also, but

skipped the last 3 days.

snip>>>>>>

January 22, 2002

Hello Joyce,

Thank you for posting the quantumbalancing website address. Very interesting

and some great links. And, I too would be

interested in hearing any and all experiences with the E-Water Machine...

Thanks again, Joyce...

Re: Drinking lots of water

>

> Did any of you try the E-water machine? If so, what was your

> experience?

>

> http://www.quantumbalancing.com/index.htm

>

> QUOTE

>

> " Now you can drink the " Fountain of Youth " in your own home. The

> E-Water machine is a revolutionary new device that produces water

> that surpasses Lorenzen Clustered water, Willard water, Nikken

> PiMag water and Flanagan Micro cluster water in about 30

> seconds! "

> \\\

> =(o o)=

> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--V---+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>

> >

>

> >I was amazed at the difference in the amount of water I could drink

> >between distilled and other water. I can drink 24 ounces of distilled

> >water at a time with no problem, when I could barely drink 16 ounces

> >of other water. It seems like there's something about distilled water

> >that the body wants and something about the other water that the body

> >doesn't want. Are you using distilled water? I know it's a pain to try

> >to drink so much liquid, so if you aren't, try to find some to see if

> >it helps.

> >

> >> I personally have a hard time consuming both 8 glasses of water plus

> >8-14 glasses of juice while trying to keep 1/2 hour in between each of

> >them. of this message have been removed]

> >

> >Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

Unsubscribe by sending email to

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> >

January 22, 2002

Dear Kallie,

do you know that Grace Gawler, ex-wife of Ian gives training and worhops for

diet and meditation for women with breastcancer? She is a very inspiring

woman as Ian is in his way. the 6th of april she is coming to the

Netherlands for again some workshops but I know she is travelling all around

the world for giving her workshops. Next week I hope to write a story at my

website , in Dutch I' m sorry but have no time to translate, about a woman

with breastcancer, advanced and with metastases, who cured herself with the

approach of Grace. In 1998 she got her diagnosis of breastcancer, no surgery

was possible and she refused chemo. She is yogi-teacher herself and started

harder as before to meditate etc., eated a strict vegetarian diet and took

some supplements prescribed by an orthomolecular doctor (Valstar). Last

summer a scan showed no cancer any longer and the woman feels very well and

is in excellent condition. A remarkable story isn't it.

Also Orbito the spriritual healer of Ian Gawler is coming regular to

the Netherlands for healingsessions. I once visited such a session and it

was very remarkable what I saw and experienced, though I'm quite a sceptical

person about healing etc. but this experience with Orbito was remarkable.

Just some additional information to your very well documented websites etc.

Thanks for that, you're great and put it in very well words

Gr. Kees Braam

webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

Drinking lots of water

>

> Hi Kallie,

>

> I respect your opinion as stated in the above email. Hence, my reply.

>

> I was diagnosed with breast cancer, stage IIB, in May, 2001. I had a

> lumpectomy, mastectomy and 6 mos. of chemo. No radiation was needed. I

did

> not take my last chemo treatment however, and was taking Cytoxin also,

but

> skipped the last 3 days.

>

> snip>>>>>>

>

January 22, 2002

Thank you Kees for the great information on Grace Gawler. Hopefully, she will

come to Canada and I will know about it as I would love to hear her speak. I

have great respect for Grace and Ian from his books and web site. He truly has

been an inspiration for people and was so kind to allow me to publish his

meditation script on my web site so that others could benefit.

Also thank you for your kind words. I have found that there are many paths to

healing. As we are each a unique human being, it may be that there is our own

unique way of healing. I do believe however, that there are some basic, common

principles to follow.

As a young at-home mother of four, I grew restless when all my children were at

school and being a RN volunteered to work in my teaching hospital where they

required a RN to volunteer--the gastroenterology lab. A young man of 36 was

diagnosed with early gastric cancer. He was obviously shocked and asked me to

go with him for lunch so we could talk. The amazing part of this story is that

all he wanted to do before he died, (he believed his was to die and 30 years ago

or so, it might have been true.) was to travel around the world and he did. I

kept in touch with him for a few years. He obtained no treatment and was one of

those miracle cures. I think this story could be analyzed to death and I just

accept that he was healed in his own unique way.

Blessings

Kallie

Drinking lots of water

>

> Hi Kallie,

>

> I respect your opinion as stated in the above email. Hence, my reply.

>

> I was diagnosed with breast cancer, stage IIB, in May, 2001. I had a

> lumpectomy, mastectomy and 6 mos. of chemo. No radiation was needed. I

did

> not take my last chemo treatment however, and was taking Cytoxin also,

but

> skipped the last 3 days.

>

> snip>>>>>>

>

March 5, 2004

Interesting article.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=healthNews & storyID=4457914

'Drink Lots of Fluids': Unproven, Perhaps Dangerous

Fri Feb 27, 2004 02:40 PM ET

By Alison McCook

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - There is no evidence to support the common

wisdom that drinking plenty of fluids helps someone with a cold or flu,

according to Australian researchers.

Instead, some research suggests, downing lots of fluids during an

illness may even be dangerous in some cases.

Study author Dr. B. Del Mar explained that when people become

very ill with a respiratory illness, their bodies sometimes secrete a

hormone that causes them to retain water. Consequently, if they were to

drink liters of water and other fluids, they might run the risk of

problems resulting from a " waterlogging of the brain, " according to Del

Mar.

So why do so many people, including doctors, recommend drinking plenty

of fluids when ill? " It's not really clear, " Del Mar noted. " All we

know is that the idea arose in ancient times, and has been carried on

ever since without anyone really challenging it. "

To investigate whether the theory that drinking fluids helps with

colds and the flu was closer to fact or fiction, Del Mar and colleagues

at the University of Queensland searched archives of past studies into

the topic. They report their findings in this week's issue of the

British Medical Journal.

According to the report, not a single study has compared the effects

of drinking lots of fluids versus low fluid intake in people with

respiratory infections. Instead, the researchers discovered reports of

ill people developing dangerously low levels of sodium in the blood, a

condition that can be prevented by restricting, rather than

encouraging, fluid intake.

In two reports, for instance, between 31 and 45 percent of children

experienced a drop in blood levels of sodium during a bout of moderate

to severe pneumonia.

Hopefully, Del Mar noted, these findings will encourage researchers to

conduct studies in which they ask some sick people to drink lots of

fluids and instruct others to drink only as much as they want, and

compare the outcomes.

Meanwhile, Del Mar said, the best advice to give someone with a cold

is to simply wait it out, perhaps turning to an antihistamine to help

with the sniffles, and acetaminophen to reduce an unpleasant fever.

" As a doctor I check that they haven't anything more serious, and then

reassure them they will get better whatever treatment they use, " Del

Mar said.

British Medical Journal, February 28, 2004.

March 5, 2004

If the children were given a little salt in their water, wouldn't that

solve the low sodium problem and keep them fully hydrated at the same

time? Or didn't any of these scientists think of that?

Irene

observing the obvious

March 5, 2004

Also, I would want to know how many children were studied and I would rather

see actual numbers than percentages. Percentages can be so terribly

misleading.

Judith Alta

-----Original Message-----

From: vegasrenie@... [mailto:vegasrenie@...]

If the children were given a little salt in their water, wouldn't that

solve the low sodium problem and keep them fully hydrated at the same

time? Or didn't any of these scientists think of that?

Irene

observing the obvious

March 5, 2004

> If the children were given a little salt in their water, wouldn't

that

> solve the low sodium problem and keep them fully hydrated at the

same

> time? Or didn't any of these scientists think of that?

Interesting ... but most of the time we consume too much sodium

anyway, so drinking water flushes that out.

March 5, 2004

Considering that so many diets are way too high in Sodium, and so

many people drink far less water than they need per day, I am

suspicious also.

Alobar

RE: Re: Drinking Lots of Water

> Also, I would want to know how many children were studied and I

would rather

> see actual numbers than percentages. Percentages can be so terribly

> misleading.

>

> Judith Alta

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: vegasrenie@... [mailto:vegasrenie@...]

> If the children were given a little salt in their water, wouldn't

that

> solve the low sodium problem and keep them fully hydrated at the

same

> time? Or didn't any of these scientists think of that?

>

> Irene

> observing the obvious

March 6, 2004

on 6/3/04 2:42 AM, Dr. B. Del Mar wrote:

> Meanwhile, Del Mar said, the best advice to give someone with a cold

> is to simply wait it out, perhaps turning to an antihistamine to help

> with the sniffles, and acetaminophen to reduce an unpleasant fever.

Typical allopathic approach! The " waiting out " part is OK, but there are

lots of herbal things we can do without assaulting the immune system with

chemicals for the symptoms! Let's save the " bullets " for the really serious

stuff... pneumonia etc.

That " unpleasant fever " is the body's way of fighting pathogens. Unless

dangerously high, it should be allowed to do its thing.

-- Joan McPhee, MH, WT

mailto:mcpheej@... --

March 6, 2004

Even pneumonia can be done naturally! Oxyegen therapy is a great

way to cure pneumonia without any harmful drugs. Dr. Schultz's Sinus

and Lung formula would be a great way too. I love all of his products,

so strong and powerful as well as 100% organic. Caitlin Lorraine

Typical allopathic approach! The " waiting out " part is OK, but there are

lots of herbal things we can do without assaulting the immune system with

chemicals for the symptoms! Let's save the " bullets " for the really

serious

stuff... pneumonia etc.

Joan

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