Guest guest Posted May 14, 2001 Report Posted May 14, 2001 Lil, I continue to be amazed at Xan's great understanding of OCD and CBT therapy. In her book, Tamra Chansky says that usually kids do best with the therapy at around 8 y.o., so maybe that's the " norm. " Dr. Chansky, though, continued to say that she has been successful with younger children. won't talk to me about OCD. Tonight he was banging on the kitchen table again (he does it occasionally for no apparent reason) and I, in frustration, asked him if the OC Flea was telling him to do that. He said, " No, I just like to do it. " Which might have been the truth or might not. Who knows! Or maybe he doesn't even know why he's doing it. But *how* is a psychologist going to reach him on this??? -Jean > > Hi Kathy re: this stuff below: > Xan told me today that his fear of trash cans started before Xmas. He > will throw trash in them, but will not touch them . . . we never > knew until he got other full blown OCD stuff in April and he himself > added trash cans to his list of things to conquer with CBT. Also of > interest is that the Dr. Bergman our [soon to be] CBT thearapist 9and > head of pediatric research on OCD at UCLA) told me on the phone that > CBT is hard for 6 year olds to grasp and that older kids do better. > She suggested I start working with him so that in the coming 'year' > he would slowly catch on! > > I kept my mouth shut on this, as Xan is smart as a whip. He plays > violin and piano at the level of a 10 year old and can do fourth > grade math. I did not want to 'brag' that I had a smart kid and I > knew it would not take a year --I thought maybe 3 months --I was also > wrong. It took him about a week to catch on to the logic behind CBT. > And once he did . . .WOW. So much for 6 year olds not catching on! > And I am sure there are plenty of others. > > By the way, I did a seminar at IU for doctoral students in social > science a couple of years ago. What a beautiful state you live in. > Indiana reminded me very much of the French countryside around Paris. > > Best, > Lil > > > > I think, because Xan has only had full blown OCD since > > > April, he is responding pretty fast to CBT (Now I know how to do > > > it!). I think the longer you have a fear, ritual or habit the > harder > > > it is to 'boss it'. > > > > I found this true, too. I regret the months I wasted following her > onset, > > before attempting ERP with Kellen. Her initial obsessions and > compulsions, > > which had nearly a year to become ingrained, are the ones lodged > firmly at > > the top of her list. Quote
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2001 Report Posted May 15, 2001 Hi Lil: My sons former therapist (Chief Psychologist at DuPont Hospital for Children) told me much the same thing about CBT for young children. Needless to say I didn't listen either and refused to use the Big Gun medications that he was recommending to our son's pdoc. Instead I embarked on a search for the best CBT therapist I could find in our area and lo and behold I located Dr. Chansky! My son has caught on very well and has weathered the waxing of symptoms using his CBT tools. He was 6 turning 7 when we started therapy and I know that if we had been able to access Dr. Chansky earlier he would have done great even at age 4 or 5. We most often appeal to his intellectual side and in turn, helps him to name his OCD " Guys " and send them packing! It is wonderful that you were able to locate this list before starting formal therapy as you will have lots of support and information from those of us in the trenches. Regards, --- drlillian2000@... wrote: > > > Hi Kathy re: this stuff below: > Xan told me today that his fear of trash cans > started before Xmas. He > will throw trash in them, but will not touch them . > . . we never > knew until he got other full blown OCD stuff in > April and he himself > added trash cans to his list of things to conquer > with CBT. Also of > interest is that the Dr. Bergman our [soon to be] > CBT thearapist 9and > head of pediatric research on OCD at UCLA) told me > on the phone that > CBT is hard for 6 year olds to grasp and that older > kids do better. > She suggested I start working with him so that in > the coming 'year' > he would slowly catch on! > > I kept my mouth shut on this, as Xan is smart as a > whip. He plays > violin and piano at the level of a 10 year old and > can do fourth > grade math. I did not want to 'brag' that I had a > smart kid and I > knew it would not take a year --I thought maybe 3 > months --I was also > wrong. It took him about a week to catch on to the > logic behind CBT. > And once he did . . .WOW. So much for 6 year olds > not catching on! > And I am sure there are plenty of others. > > By the way, I did a seminar at IU for doctoral > students in social > science a couple of years ago. What a beautiful > state you live in. > Indiana reminded me very much of the French > countryside around Paris. > > Best, > Lil > > > > I think, because Xan has only had full blown OCD > since > > > April, he is responding pretty fast to CBT (Now > I know how to do > > > it!). I think the longer you have a fear, ritual > or habit the > harder > > > it is to 'boss it'. > > > > I found this true, too. I regret the months I > wasted following her > onset, > > before attempting ERP with Kellen. Her initial > obsessions and > compulsions, > > which had nearly a year to become ingrained, are > the ones lodged > firmly at > > the top of her list. > > > __________________________________________________ Quote
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2001 Report Posted May 15, 2001 > won't talk to me about OCD. Tonight > he was banging on the kitchen table again (he does it occasionally for > no apparent reason) and I, in frustration, asked him if the OC Flea > was telling him to do that. He said, " No, I just like to do it. " > Which might have been the truth or might not. Who knows! Or maybe he > doesn't even know why he's doing it. But *how* is a psychologist > going to reach him on this??? > My words exactly. I also can relate to your daughter putting some space between herself and you when getting yelled at, only to return shortly apparently completely composed. How do they do it?! My son does that a lot. I guess if I don't have the sense to put some space between us when I can't cope anymore, he at least has the wisdom to do it for me. *smile* Cheryl ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2001 Report Posted May 18, 2001 Hi Lil, I'm so happy for you and Xan that he is doing so well with ERP. All the pros in our life also told me that Kel wouldn't be able to grasp CBT concepts until much older--her psych (still!) says 16 or so. I have to admit she didn't get the cognitive part right away, but she believed in me enough that ERP was the way to make OCD small that she was willing to try this weird plan of Mom's. Once, by golly, it worked, she was " hooked " and like Xan was fired up to boss the OCD bully. Kathy R. in Indiana p.s. there are parts of Indiana that are very beautiful indeed. Too bad for me though, I've never seen the French countryside, but will take your word for it that resembles southern Indiana! :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: <drlillian2000@...> > Xan told me today that his fear of trash cans started before Xmas. He > will throw trash in them, but will not touch them . . . we never > knew until he got other full blown OCD stuff in April and he himself > added trash cans to his list of things to conquer with CBT. Also of > interest is that the Dr. Bergman our [soon to be] CBT thearapist 9and > head of pediatric research on OCD at UCLA) told me on the phone that > CBT is hard for 6 year olds to grasp and that older kids do better. > She suggested I start working with him so that in the coming 'year' > he would slowly catch on! > > I kept my mouth shut on this, as Xan is smart as a whip. He plays > violin and piano at the level of a 10 year old and can do fourth > grade math. I did not want to 'brag' that I had a smart kid and I > knew it would not take a year --I thought maybe 3 months --I was also > wrong. It took him about a week to catch on to the logic behind CBT. > And once he did . . .WOW. So much for 6 year olds not catching on! > And I am sure there are plenty of others. > > By the way, I did a seminar at IU for doctoral students in social > science a couple of years ago. What a beautiful state you live in. > Indiana reminded me very much of the French countryside around Paris. Quote
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Posted May 7, 2002 I haven't posted for a long time. I had the Botox injections four times. The first helped for about 8 months. The second about the same. The third and fourth did not help at all. That is when I went for the Heller Myotomy. ..... Bud..... Quote
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Posted March 31, 2005 In a message dated 3/31/2005 12:32:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes: I may have shared this or something similiar before - I have CRS these days but when I got this again today, I thought of Kathy. If I did share this before, I probably mentioned Kathy then, too...lol. I think you might have shared it. I know I came across it and emailed it to my college kid who is a terrible speller. She loved it! nancy (mom of , Sheila-DS and Colleen) Quote
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Posted March 31, 2005 In a message dated 3/31/2005 12:32:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes: I may have shared this or something similiar before - I have CRS these days but when I got this again today, I thought of Kathy. If I did share this before, I probably mentioned Kathy then, too...lol. I think you might have shared it. I know I came across it and emailed it to my college kid who is a terrible speller. She loved it! nancy (mom of , Sheila-DS and Colleen) Quote
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2005 Report Posted May 27, 2005 I have been getting this to when trying to contact Kathy. I thought she didn't like us anymore. is Rotella, M.Ac., CNC > My apologies for sending this thru the group, but I know of no other way > of contacting Kathy... > Dear Kathy, > Your service provider has blocked me from sending email to you (I have > asked to be unblocked, but it seems that they are protecting you from > random acts of spam(electro-terrorism?) supposedly originating from my > email address). > Just wanted to let you know that the dvd's arrived on Friday. Perhaps > you could give me an unprotected fax number? I promise to behave. > Regards. > Nadine Quote
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 You Betsya!!!! Kathy... Still wandering around loose in Milwaukee -- For Kathy "I can be a major space case..Must be all those year of abusive to my brain..Kathy B.." Boy, those acid flashbacks are tough sometimes HA! Allan with 2 L's still with some neurons left....I think Seseni© IncrediDesign Quote
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 You Betsya!!!! Kathy... Still wandering around loose in Milwaukee -- For Kathy "I can be a major space case..Must be all those year of abusive to my brain..Kathy B.." Boy, those acid flashbacks are tough sometimes HA! Allan with 2 L's still with some neurons left....I think Seseni© IncrediDesign Quote
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 Cool!!!!!!!! At 11:07 AM 6/23/05, you wrote: Hey,I guess I will just butt in here. I am undetectable at 12 weeks. Quote
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 Cool!!!!!!!! At 11:07 AM 6/23/05, you wrote: Hey,I guess I will just butt in here. I am undetectable at 12 weeks. Quote
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 Hey ... that is the best news of the day... Congratulations! Llinda Hey,I guess I will just butt in here. I am undetectable at 12 weeks. Quote
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 its alway awesome to see the words undetectable.. congrats Llinda <2llama@...> wrote: Hey ... that is the best news of the day... Congratulations! Llinda Hey,I guess I will just butt in here. I am undetectable at 12 weeks. Quote
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2005 Report Posted June 23, 2005 Yes,that came as a surprise,I did not think I was going to respond this time,because I felt so horrible,worse than last time. Thats where just hang in there comes to mind. RE: For Kathy its alway awesome to see the words undetectable.. congrats Llinda <2llama@...> wrote: Hey ... that is the best news of the day... Congratulations! Llinda Hey,I guess I will just butt in here. I am undetectable at 12 weeks. Quote
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Posted July 24, 2006 May all your days be Happy and pain free! And may you enjoy life again as you did before PA Let your angel tend the garden of your soul, and your path will be strewn with roses. .. Quote
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