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I have no suggestions Tammy, just want to say I'm sorry you've had such a

bad experience, glad you're all right, and think testing sounds like a good

idea.

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Wow, no I haven't, but I'm glad you're okay!

Barb

[ ] anaphylatic shock - OT

I've had the strangest night. Ate around 5:30, nothing strange. Took the boys

to visit toy land to get ideas for the holidays and birthdays. Felt great.

Got home about 8:15. Both boys eat a quick snack and off to the shower for

one, the other to bed. I had to hit the rest room and my stomach took a nose

dive, really strange. Then while in the bathroom, both ears had an intense deep

itching both at the same time and then I started sneezing, like 12 times. My

husband asked me if I was ok, very strange for me. All the sudden I couldn't

breath throw my nose and I had problems breathing period. Scared. So came out

and took 4 tsp of Benadryl and took out the epi pens just incase. Then

remembered I had some prednisone so took that, 2 tsp.

Anyway, I'm flushed and rashy looking from the chest on up and can feel

swelling in and around my eyes. I counted 3 hives on my stomach. This is totally

amazing and I have no idea what caused it.

When at toyland, I had to get a b-day card. You wouldn't know they had large

square tubes of every nut and I have my peanut allergy son with me. I told him

to please not touch a thing and hurried up.

Felt fine, sang on the way home. Isn't this just amazing. I'm sitting here

maybe an hour later, tired I'm sure from the Benadryl, but amazed. I've never in

my life had this severe of reaction to anything so life threatening. Honestly,

I'm not sure what it even could have been. The nuts reaction, it was maybe 1/2

hour after being around them and like 3 hours after eating.

Anyone ever have this kind allergic reaction so severe and have no idea? The

only thing different I did was open my sons new toy and he's the peanut severe

food allergy guy, he's fine. I'd almost think to toy was laced with poison but

I'm the only one affected.

Sorry, ot but had to share. I guess it's time for me to try no dairy,

challenge nuts and maybe get some blook word done on food allergies.

I'll sleep with my epi pens tonight just in case.

Tammy

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Sounds scary. Last Feb my stepmother-in-law was out of the country and had a

severe allergic reaction to kiwi fruit (no known prior allergies, had never had

kiwi fruit before) and had to be life flighted back to the states for them to

figure out what was going on. She's ok now but very leery of any food she

doesn't recognize or with too many ingredients.

S S

anaphylatic shock - OT

Posted by: " Tammy Kuhn " tkuhn1@... bailykuhn

Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:46 pm (PST)

I've had the strangest night. Ate around 5:30, nothing strange. Took the boys to

visit toy land to get ideas for the holidays and birthdays. Felt great.

Got home about 8:15. Both boys eat a quick snack and off to the shower for one,

the other to bed. I had to hit the rest room and my stomach took a nose dive,

really strange. Then while in the bathroom, both ears had an intense deep

itching both at the same time and then I started sneezing, like 12 times. My

husband asked me if I was ok, very strange for me. All the sudden I couldn't

breath throw my nose and I had problems breathing period. Scared. So came out

and took 4 tsp of Benadryl and took out the epi pens just incase. Then

remembered I had some prednisone so took that, 2 tsp.

Anyway, I'm flushed and rashy looking from the chest on up and can feel swelling

in and around my eyes. I counted 3 hives on my stomach. This is totally amazing

and I have no idea what caused it.

When at toyland, I had to get a b-day card. You wouldn't know they had large

square tubes of every nut and I have my peanut allergy son with me. I told him

to please not touch a thing and hurried up.

Felt fine, sang on the way home. Isn't this just amazing. I'm sitting here maybe

an hour later, tired I'm sure from the Benadryl, but amazed. I've never in my

life had this severe of reaction to anything so life threatening. Honestly, I'm

not sure what it even could have been. The nuts reaction, it was maybe 1/2 hour

after being around them and like 3 hours after eating.

Anyone ever have this kind allergic reaction so severe and have no idea? The

only thing different I did was open my sons new toy and he's the peanut severe

food allergy guy, he's fine. I'd almost think to toy was laced with poison but

I'm the only one affected.

Sorry, ot but had to share. I guess it's time for me to try no dairy, challenge

nuts and maybe get some blook word done on food allergies.

I'll sleep with my epi pens tonight just in case.

Tammy

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My thoughts - allergies are seldom apparent on first exposure. It takes

one exposure to set it up, and then another exposure to be apparent.

Maybe it was something in what you ate, that you have just never had the

second exposure to. Maybe an added ingredient in something you normally

purchase?

It sounds pretty scary. I hope you figure it out so that you never have

to go through that again!!

P

>

> Posted by: " Tammy Kuhn " tkuhn1@...

> <mailto:tkuhn1%40charter.net> bailykuhn

> Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:46 pm (PST)

> I've had the strangest night. Ate around 5:30, nothing strange. Took

> the boys to visit toy land to get ideas for the holidays and

> birthdays. Felt great.

>

> Got home about 8:15. Both boys eat a quick snack and off to the shower

> for one, the other to bed. I had to hit the rest room and my stomach

> took a nose dive, really strange. Then while in the bathroom, both

> ears had an intense deep itching both at the same time and then I

> started sneezing, like 12 times. My husband asked me if I was ok, very

> strange for me. All the sudden I couldn't breath throw my nose and I

> had problems breathing period. Scared. So came out and took 4 tsp of

> Benadryl and took out the epi pens just incase. Then remembered I had

> some prednisone so took that, 2 tsp.

>

> Anyway, I'm flushed and rashy looking from the chest on up and can

> feel swelling in and around my eyes. I counted 3 hives on my stomach.

> This is totally amazing and I have no idea what caused it.

>

> When at toyland, I had to get a b-day card. You wouldn't know they had

> large square tubes of every nut and I have my peanut allergy son with

> me. I told him to please not touch a thing and hurried up.

>

> Felt fine, sang on the way home. Isn't this just amazing. I'm sitting

> here maybe an hour later, tired I'm sure from the Benadryl, but

> amazed. I've never in my life had this severe of reaction to anything

> so life threatening. Honestly, I'm not sure what it even could have

> been. The nuts reaction, it was maybe 1/2 hour after being around them

> and like 3 hours after eating.

>

> Anyone ever have this kind allergic reaction so severe and have no

> idea? The only thing different I did was open my sons new toy and he's

> the peanut severe food allergy guy, he's fine. I'd almost think to toy

> was laced with poison but I'm the only one affected.

>

> Sorry, ot but had to share. I guess it's time for me to try no dairy,

> challenge nuts and maybe get some blook word done on food allergies.

>

> I'll sleep with my epi pens tonight just in case.

>

> Tammy

>

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My Dad had something similar late last summer. He was swimming in

his pool (which wasn't heated so was a little cool) and started

feeling itchy...got out..went inside to shower thinking that

something had gotten into the pool that was bothering him...started

feeling short of breath and took some Benadryl. Got into the shower,

felt lightheaded and passed out. Woke up a minute or two later and

felt horrible for quite a while.

After testing with a lot of trial and error...turns out he has

developed a rare allergy to COLD against his skin. He now can't swim

in a cold pool, hold ice cubes, and must be very careful in cold

weather. If you put an ice cube against his skin,he will hive up and

after a few minutes start to wheeze.

I once had a similar reaction with no breathing problems, just hives

to being in a VERY HOT car with no A/C driving across the Mojave

desert in July.

These types of allergic reactions are rare...but your body can

develop an allergy to anything.

What kind of toy did you open?? My allergic son once reacted to

brand new wooden alphabet blocks by getting hives running up both

arms. After the blocks were washed, rinsed and dried in the sun for

a day...he could play with them fine, but they were coated with

something he was allergic to.

(Max's Mom)

>

> I've had the strangest night. Ate around 5:30, nothing strange.

Took the boys to visit toy land to get ideas for the holidays and

birthdays. Felt great.

>

> Got home about 8:15. Both boys eat a quick snack and off to the

shower for one, the other to bed. I had to hit the rest room and my

stomach took a nose dive, really strange. Then while in the

bathroom, both ears had an intense deep itching both at the same time

and then I started sneezing, like 12 times. My husband asked me if I

was ok, very strange for me. All the sudden I couldn't breath throw

my nose and I had problems breathing period. Scared. So came out

and took 4 tsp of Benadryl and took out the epi pens just incase.

Then remembered I had some prednisone so took that, 2 tsp.

>

> Anyway, I'm flushed and rashy looking from the chest on up and can

feel swelling in and around my eyes. I counted 3 hives on my

stomach. This is totally amazing and I have no idea what caused it.

>

> When at toyland, I had to get a b-day card. You wouldn't know they

had large square tubes of every nut and I have my peanut allergy son

with me. I told him to please not touch a thing and hurried up.

>

> Felt fine, sang on the way home. Isn't this just amazing. I'm

sitting here maybe an hour later, tired I'm sure from the Benadryl,

but amazed. I've never in my life had this severe of reaction to

anything so life threatening. Honestly, I'm not sure what it even

could have been. The nuts reaction, it was maybe 1/2 hour after

being around them and like 3 hours after eating.

>

> Anyone ever have this kind allergic reaction so severe and have no

idea? The only thing different I did was open my sons new toy and

he's the peanut severe food allergy guy, he's fine. I'd almost think

to toy was laced with poison but I'm the only one affected.

>

> Sorry, ot but had to share. I guess it's time for me to try no

dairy, challenge nuts and maybe get some blook word done on food

allergies.

>

> I'll sleep with my epi pens tonight just in case.

>

> Tammy

>

>

>

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Was it fresh or preserved? That's scarey!

I know they keep kiwis in shipping containers for up to a year in carbon

dioxide as a preservative. Can't think of any other reason for such a

reaction.

Shepard Salzer schrieb:

>

> Sounds scary. Last Feb my stepmother-in- law was out of the country

> and had a severe allergic reaction to kiwi fruit (no known prior

> allergies, had never had kiwi fruit before) and had to be life

> flighted back to the states for them to figure out what was going on.

> She's ok now but very leery of any food she doesn't recognize or with

> too many ingredients.

> S S

>

> anaphylatic shock - OT

> Posted by: " Tammy Kuhn " tkuhn1charter (DOT) net

> <mailto:tkuhn1%40charter.net> bailykuhn

> Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:46 pm (PST)

> I've had the strangest night. Ate around 5:30, nothing strange. Took

> the boys to visit toy land to get ideas for the holidays and

> birthdays. Felt great.

>

> Got home about 8:15. Both boys eat a quick snack and off to the shower

> for one, the other to bed. I had to hit the rest room and my stomach

> took a nose dive, really strange. Then while in the bathroom, both

> ears had an intense deep itching both at the same time and then I

> started sneezing, like 12 times. My husband asked me if I was ok, very

> strange for me. All the sudden I couldn't breath throw my nose and I

> had problems breathing period. Scared. So came out and took 4 tsp of

> Benadryl and took out the epi pens just incase. Then remembered I had

> some prednisone so took that, 2 tsp.

>

> Anyway, I'm flushed and rashy looking from the chest on up and can

> feel swelling in and around my eyes. I counted 3 hives on my stomach.

> This is totally amazing and I have no idea what caused it.

>

> When at toyland, I had to get a b-day card. You wouldn't know they had

> large square tubes of every nut and I have my peanut allergy son with

> me. I told him to please not touch a thing and hurried up.

>

> Felt fine, sang on the way home. Isn't this just amazing. I'm sitting

> here maybe an hour later, tired I'm sure from the Benadryl, but

> amazed. I've never in my life had this severe of reaction to anything

> so life threatening. Honestly, I'm not sure what it even could have

> been. The nuts reaction, it was maybe 1/2 hour after being around them

> and like 3 hours after eating.

>

> Anyone ever have this kind allergic reaction so severe and have no

> idea? The only thing different I did was open my sons new toy and he's

> the peanut severe food allergy guy, he's fine. I'd almost think to toy

> was laced with poison but I'm the only one affected.

>

> Sorry, ot but had to share. I guess it's time for me to try no dairy,

> challenge nuts and maybe get some blook word done on food allergies.

>

> I'll sleep with my epi pens tonight just in case.

>

> Tammy

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The only thing " junky " I ate last night was a little rice a roni. Fried up a

couple baked potatoes in dairy free butter, corn and steak on the grill with

mushroom and onions. Nothing I've never not had before.

I leaning toward the new toy I helped my son open. Having had issues with

soaps, so chemically I am sensitive. So weird.

I have notice some times after drinking a class of milk, guys I love milk

btw....I have more mucus and in the morning I have a bowel of cereal and milk.

Go to work, think I must be coming down with a cold but then fine. I'm thinking

milk.....that might explain the skin but that is looking really good the last

few days. No major outbreaks and this ana reaction to something.

I'm going to make a doctors appointment and try and get in soon and see if

she'll do a basic food panel. If need be, I'll just order something off the

internet and have them draw blood. A busy time to drive 3 hours to see my sons

allergist.

Thanks

Tammy

PS Feel a little swollen in the lungs, can tell. But fine. Very scary!

Re: [ ] Re: anaphylatic shock - OT

My thoughts - allergies are seldom apparent on first exposure. It takes

one exposure to set it up, and then another exposure to be apparent.

Maybe it was something in what you ate, that you have just never had the

second exposure to. Maybe an added ingredient in something you normally

purchase?

It sounds pretty scary. I hope you figure it out so that you never have

to go through that again!!

P

>

> Posted by: " Tammy Kuhn " tkuhn1@...

> <mailto:tkuhn1%40charter.net> bailykuhn

> Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:46 pm (PST)

> I've had the strangest night. Ate around 5:30, nothing strange. Took

> the boys to visit toy land to get ideas for the holidays and

> birthdays. Felt great.

>

> Got home about 8:15. Both boys eat a quick snack and off to the shower

> for one, the other to bed. I had to hit the rest room and my stomach

> took a nose dive, really strange. Then while in the bathroom, both

> ears had an intense deep itching both at the same time and then I

> started sneezing, like 12 times. My husband asked me if I was ok, very

> strange for me. All the sudden I couldn't breath throw my nose and I

> had problems breathing period. Scared. So came out and took 4 tsp of

> Benadryl and took out the epi pens just incase. Then remembered I had

> some prednisone so took that, 2 tsp.

>

> Anyway, I'm flushed and rashy looking from the chest on up and can

> feel swelling in and around my eyes. I counted 3 hives on my stomach.

> This is totally amazing and I have no idea what caused it.

>

> When at toyland, I had to get a b-day card. You wouldn't know they had

> large square tubes of every nut and I have my peanut allergy son with

> me. I told him to please not touch a thing and hurried up.

>

> Felt fine, sang on the way home. Isn't this just amazing. I'm sitting

> here maybe an hour later, tired I'm sure from the Benadryl, but

> amazed. I've never in my life had this severe of reaction to anything

> so life threatening. Honestly, I'm not sure what it even could have

> been. The nuts reaction, it was maybe 1/2 hour after being around them

> and like 3 hours after eating.

>

> Anyone ever have this kind allergic reaction so severe and have no

> idea? The only thing different I did was open my sons new toy and he's

> the peanut severe food allergy guy, he's fine. I'd almost think to toy

> was laced with poison but I'm the only one affected.

>

> Sorry, ot but had to share. I guess it's time for me to try no dairy,

> challenge nuts and maybe get some blook word done on food allergies.

>

> I'll sleep with my epi pens tonight just in case.

>

> Tammy

>

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I had something similar. My son takes no-phenol chewable enzymes. I

had taken one because it says between meals can help with yeast. I

took one and within seconds experienced severe itching in my mouth

and my throat felt weird, possibly closing up. I grabbed the kids

liquid benadryl and it helped me right away. I still don't know what

exactly I am allergic to in the enzyme, but my son still uses them

without trouble.

> >

> > I've had the strangest night. Ate around 5:30, nothing strange.

> Took the boys to visit toy land to get ideas for the holidays and

> birthdays. Felt great.

> >

> > Got home about 8:15. Both boys eat a quick snack and off to the

> shower for one, the other to bed. I had to hit the rest room and

my

> stomach took a nose dive, really strange. Then while in the

> bathroom, both ears had an intense deep itching both at the same

time

> and then I started sneezing, like 12 times. My husband asked me if

I

> was ok, very strange for me. All the sudden I couldn't breath

throw

> my nose and I had problems breathing period. Scared. So came out

> and took 4 tsp of Benadryl and took out the epi pens just incase.

> Then remembered I had some prednisone so took that, 2 tsp.

> >

> > Anyway, I'm flushed and rashy looking from the chest on up and

can

> feel swelling in and around my eyes. I counted 3 hives on my

> stomach. This is totally amazing and I have no idea what caused it.

> >

> > When at toyland, I had to get a b-day card. You wouldn't know

they

> had large square tubes of every nut and I have my peanut allergy

son

> with me. I told him to please not touch a thing and hurried up.

> >

> > Felt fine, sang on the way home. Isn't this just amazing. I'm

> sitting here maybe an hour later, tired I'm sure from the Benadryl,

> but amazed. I've never in my life had this severe of reaction to

> anything so life threatening. Honestly, I'm not sure what it even

> could have been. The nuts reaction, it was maybe 1/2 hour after

> being around them and like 3 hours after eating.

> >

> > Anyone ever have this kind allergic reaction so severe and have

no

> idea? The only thing different I did was open my sons new toy and

> he's the peanut severe food allergy guy, he's fine. I'd almost

think

> to toy was laced with poison but I'm the only one affected.

> >

> > Sorry, ot but had to share. I guess it's time for me to try no

> dairy, challenge nuts and maybe get some blook word done on food

> allergies.

> >

> > I'll sleep with my epi pens tonight just in case.

> >

> > Tammy

> >

> >

> >

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Could it be a combination of things? When my brother-in-law was young he was

allergic to the combination of oranges and tuna. He could have them separately,

just not together.

JenB

Re: [ ] Re: anaphylatic shock - OT

My thoughts - allergies are seldom apparent on first exposure. It takes

one exposure to set it up, and then another exposure to be apparent.

Maybe it was something in what you ate, that you have just never had the

second exposure to. Maybe an added ingredient in something you normally

purchase?

It sounds pretty scary. I hope you figure it out so that you never have

to go through that again!!

P

>

> Posted by: " Tammy Kuhn " tkuhn1@...

> <mailto:tkuhn1%40charter.net> bailykuhn

> Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:46 pm (PST)

> I've had the strangest night. Ate around 5:30, nothing strange. Took

> the boys to visit toy land to get ideas for the holidays and

> birthdays. Felt great.

>

> Got home about 8:15. Both boys eat a quick snack and off to the shower

> for one, the other to bed. I had to hit the rest room and my stomach

> took a nose dive, really strange. Then while in the bathroom, both

> ears had an intense deep itching both at the same time and then I

> started sneezing, like 12 times. My husband asked me if I was ok, very

> strange for me. All the sudden I couldn't breath throw my nose and I

> had problems breathing period. Scared. So came out and took 4 tsp of

> Benadryl and took out the epi pens just incase. Then remembered I had

> some prednisone so took that, 2 tsp.

>

> Anyway, I'm flushed and rashy looking from the chest on up and can

> feel swelling in and around my eyes. I counted 3 hives on my stomach.

> This is totally amazing and I have no idea what caused it.

>

> When at toyland, I had to get a b-day card. You wouldn't know they had

> large square tubes of every nut and I have my peanut allergy son with

> me. I told him to please not touch a thing and hurried up.

>

> Felt fine, sang on the way home. Isn't this just amazing. I'm sitting

> here maybe an hour later, tired I'm sure from the Benadryl, but

> amazed. I've never in my life had this severe of reaction to anything

> so life threatening. Honestly, I'm not sure what it even could have

> been. The nuts reaction, it was maybe 1/2 hour after being around them

> and like 3 hours after eating.

>

> Anyone ever have this kind allergic reaction so severe and have no

> idea? The only thing different I did was open my sons new toy and he's

> the peanut severe food allergy guy, he's fine. I'd almost think to toy

> was laced with poison but I'm the only one affected.

>

> Sorry, ot but had to share. I guess it's time for me to try no dairy,

> challenge nuts and maybe get some blook word done on food allergies.

>

> I'll sleep with my epi pens tonight just in case.

>

> Tammy

>

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Don't know. I assume it was fresh. The allergist she saw after she got back

home did a bunch of testing and gave her a list of things to avoid. Apparently

kiwi allergy is related to rubber allergy among others. Kiwi has an enzyme in

it similar to papain in papaya and bromelain in pineapple. I think she was told

to avoid those as well.

S S

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Posted by: " JULIE GRIFFITHS " moppett1@... bty54062844

Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:06 am (PST)

Was it fresh or preserved? That's scarey!

I know they keep kiwis in shipping containers for up to a year in carbon

dioxide as a preservative. Can't think of any other reason for such a

reaction.

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S S

Re: anaphylatic shock - OT

Posted by: " Tammy Kuhn " tkuhn1@... bailykuhn

Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:07 am (PST)

The only thing " junky " I ate last night was a little rice a roni.

*Check the ingredients on the rice-a roni, some contain cheese. I wonder if

they source dairy products from China?

Fried up a couple baked potatoes in dairy free butter, corn and steak on the

grill with mushroom and onions. Nothing I've never not had before.

I leaning toward the new toy I helped my son open.

*If it did that to you it probably isn't very safe for your son. Was it made in

China?

Having had issues with soaps, so chemically I am sensitive. So weird.

I have notice some times after drinking a class of milk, guys I love milk

btw....I have more mucus and in the morning I have a bowel of cereal and milk.

*That's fairly common. Consider switching to almond mylk. We now use Blue

Diamond vanilla almond mylk for baking and on cereal.

Go to work, think I must be coming down with a cold but then fine. I'm thinking

milk.....that might explain the skin but that is looking really good the last

few days. No major outbreaks and this ana reaction to something.

I'm going to make a doctors appointment and try and get in soon and see if

she'll do a basic food panel. If need be, I'll just order something off the

internet and have them draw blood. A busy time to drive 3 hours to see my sons

allergist.

*Consider NAET, www.naet.com has a listing of practitioners all over. I've been

to practitioners in CA, WA, and MA because I have moved a lot.

Thanks

Tammy

PS Feel a little swollen in the lungs, can tell. But fine. Very scary!

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Almond milk is always a good option. We still do raw cows' milk here

(never pasteurized - it is poison), but also do almond milk. You can

make your own easily!! Almonds, water, a date and a blender is all it

takes. Sprout the nuts overnight in water, then blend them and add a

date for sweetening. You then strain the solids out for a clear, milk

liquid. We use the solids in baking - muffins mostly. Almond milk is

best after it has chilled for a few hours. Tastes great on granola.

:-) You can find specific amounts in online recipes. Can't take time

to look mine up right now. (I don't have a very good memory for

recipes, even when I do them often).

P

Shepard Salzer wrote:

>

> Comments interspersed.

> S S

>

> Re: anaphylatic shock - OT

> Posted by: " Tammy Kuhn " tkuhn1@...

> <mailto:tkuhn1%40charter.net> bailykuhn

> Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:07 am (PST)

> The only thing " junky " I ate last night was a little rice a roni.

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> I have notice some times after drinking a class of milk, guys I love

> milk btw....I have more mucus and in the morning I have a bowel of

> cereal and milk.

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> *That's fairly common. Consider switching to almond mylk. We now use

> Blue Diamond vanilla almond mylk for baking and on cereal.

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> Thanks

>

> Tammy

>

> PS Feel a little swollen in the lungs, can tell. But fine. Very scary!

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