Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Hi read this link and all the posts back to it. http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/showthread.php?t=134240195 Phil <ecgnyc@...> wrote: How does one REDUCE high levels of cortisol? Is it possible for person to have high cortisol for their entire adult life? I've got a saliva/cortisol check scheduled for next week, and I suspect I have high Cortisol levels. I'm mid 30's and have had erectile dysfunction since early adult hood. And I just tested my testosterone, and it was low for a man my age -- 351 (reference range 200 -1000). What is Phosphadetsterine? Is that the med that lowers cortisol? Are there any other meds? Are high cortisol levels related to low T levels? Can you one normal and one abnormal? Or do they both go hand and hand? Thanks for any help! peace, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Phil's link is interesting. Phosphatidyl serine is an OTC supplement that supposedly reduces cortisol levels. I'm on it now, but don't have any labs to show it's effectiveness yet. ALL hormone systems interact with each other. I've always blamed my hypogonadism on undertreated thyroid issues (post thyroid cancer surgery), but who knows what really started what. I have high cortisol, low testosterone and low thyroid output (even pre-thyroidectomy). Which systems failure started the others overcompensating/undercompensating...? Guess I'll never know. > Cortisol Question > >How does one REDUCE high levels of cortisol? > > Is it possible for person to have high cortisol for their >entire adult life? > >I've got a saliva/cortisol check scheduled for next week, and >I suspect I have high Cortisol levels. I'm mid 30's and have >had erectile dysfunction since early adult hood. And I just >tested my testosterone, and it was low for a man my age -- 351 >(reference range 200 -1000). > >What is Phosphadetsterine? Is that the med that lowers >cortisol? Are there any other meds? > >Are high cortisol levels related to low T levels? Can you one >normal and one abnormal? >Or do they both go hand and hand? > > >Thanks for any help! > >peace, > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 I have the same problem and would appreciate knowing what you find out on this issue. Cortisol Question How does one REDUCE high levels of cortisol? Is it possible for person to have high cortisol for their entire adult life? I've got a saliva/cortisol check scheduled for next week, and I suspect I have high Cortisol levels. I'm mid 30's and have had erectile dysfunction since early adult hood. And I just tested my testosterone, and it was low for a man my age -- 351 (reference range 200 -1000). What is Phosphadetsterine? Is that the med that lowers cortisol? Are there any other meds? Are high cortisol levels related to low T levels? Can you one normal and one abnormal? Or do they both go hand and hand? Thanks for any help! peace, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 hey phil, thanks for the link and information. i read the link but didn't find how to lower cortisol? is there a prescription med? is there an herbal subsitute? thanks! > How does one REDUCE high levels of cortisol? > > Is it possible for person to have high cortisol for their entire adult life? > > I've got a saliva/cortisol check scheduled for next week, and I suspect I have high Cortisol > levels. I'm mid 30's and have had erectile dysfunction since early adult hood. And I just > tested my testosterone, and it was low for a man my age -- 351 (reference range 200 > -1000). > > What is Phosphadetsterine? Is that the med that lowers cortisol? Are there any other > meds? > > Are high cortisol levels related to low T levels? Can you one normal and one abnormal? > Or do they both go hand and hand? > > > Thanks for any help! > > peace, > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Hi I just reread the whole link all 31 hits and it is all in there. Here is a C & P. Phil I started taking Isocort about a week ago and so far I feel great. My cortisol drops between 11am and 4pm, and that's when I feel the worst. Thyroid meds only made it worse. I've been taking 4 Isocort, which is close to the equivelant of 10mg cortef and my symptoms have subsided greatly. I've also been able to increase my armour dosage and still feel good. SPE View Public Profile Send a private message to SPE Find all posts by SPE Add SPE to Your Buddy List #27 2 Days Ago Vforcer2 vbmenu_register( " postmenu_465016 " , true); Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 178 --------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by SPE I started taking Isocort about a week ago and so far I feel great. My cortisol drops between 11am and 4pm, and that's when I feel the worst. Thyroid meds only made it worse. I've been taking 4 Isocort, which is close to the equivelant of 10mg cortef and my symptoms have subsided greatly. I've also been able to increase my armour dosage and still feel good. SPE, you are learning the same stuff that I am. I ordered some Isocort yesterday, but I was unaware that it could be of the same potency of Cortef. I read where some people are on both. They say what if you up your Armour that you should take the Isocort for 3 days to week to help the Adrenals deal with the new Thryroid hormones. I just joined the forums www.stopthethyroidmadness.com a couple of days ago. You can read my conversation there with Val, who is on Armour, Cortef, and Isocort. She recommended I try the Isocort before going to the more potent Cortef steriod. __________________ Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan " press on " has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.--Calvin Coolidge Vforcer2 View Public Profile Send a private message to Vforcer2 Send email to Vforcer2 Find all posts by Vforcer2 Add Vforcer2 to Your Buddy List #28 2 Days Ago SPE vbmenu_register( " postmenu_465036 " , true); Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 467 --------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by Vforcer2 SPE, you are learning the same stuff that I am. I ordered some Isocort yesterday, but I was unaware that it could be of the same potency of Cortef. I read where some people are on both. They say what if you up your Armour that you should take the Isocort for 3 days to week to help the Adrenals deal with the new Thryroid hormones. I just joined the forums www.stopthethyroidmadness.com a couple of days ago. You can read my conversation there with Val, who is on Armour, Cortef, and Isocort. She recommended I try the Isocort before going to the more potent Cortef steriod. I agree about starting with the Isocort first, as that's exactly what I did. It's a natural form of cortisol, like Armour. It's not as potent as Cortef OR prednisone, but why use those if you don't have to? I have noticed a side effect from the Isocort. I'm always hungry! That's a good thing though as before that my appetite was kind of non-existent. SPE View Public Profile Send a private message to SPE Find all posts by SPE Add SPE to Your Buddy List #29 2 Days Ago 1cc vbmenu_register( " postmenu_465042 " , true); Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 690 --------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by SPE I started taking Isocort about a week ago and so far I feel great. My cortisol drops between 11am and 4pm, and that's when I feel the worst. Thyroid meds only made it worse. I've been taking 4 Isocort, which is close to the equivelant of 10mg cortef and my symptoms have subsided greatly. I've also been able to increase my armour dosage and still feel good. Thats great! Glad you're feeling better. If you're going to take Isocort, then you might as well take hydrocortisone, because the only active ingredient in the Isocort is the cortisone. I think the generic hydrocortisone is cheaper as well. I have used Isocort before, and each pellet is supposed to contain approx. 2.5mg cortisol. 1cc View Public Profile Send a private message to 1cc Send email to 1cc Find all posts by 1cc Add 1cc to Your Buddy List #30 2 Days Ago Vforcer2 vbmenu_register( " postmenu_465055 " , true); Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 178 --------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by 1cc Thats great! Glad you're feeling better. If you're going to take Isocort, then you might as well take hydrocortisone, because the only active ingredient in the Isocort is the cortisone. I think the generic hydrocortisone is cheaper as well. I have used Isocort before, and each pellet is supposed to contain approx. 2.5mg cortisol. I am not complaining about the price. It requires no office visits to the doctor, and can be ordered at will. I just paid $25 including shipping here: http://www.naturalnutritionals.com/bz106.html __________________ Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan " press on " has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.--Calvin Coolidge Vforcer2 View Public Profile Send a private message to Vforcer2 Send email to Vforcer2 Find all posts by Vforcer2 Add Vforcer2 to Your Buddy List #31 2 Days Ago love_en vbmenu_register( " postmenu_465059 " , true); Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 318 --------------------------------- I know a overseas pharmaceutical broker who can ship hydrocortisone, prednisone, and Florinef to the US. The URL is at hand pending the results of my Adrenal test.. I think Cortef is only about $30 for 100 10mg tablets. __________________ All male doctors need to be on a one year cycle of Proscar and Androcur. Maybe then, a hypogonadal man would be treated with the same care given to other patients. <ecgnyc@...> wrote: hey phil, thanks for the link and information. i read the link but didn't find how to lower cortisol? is there a prescription med? is there an herbal subsitute? thanks! > How does one REDUCE high levels of cortisol? > > Is it possible for person to have high cortisol for their entire adult life? > > I've got a saliva/cortisol check scheduled for next week, and I suspect I have high Cortisol > levels. I'm mid 30's and have had erectile dysfunction since early adult hood. And I just > tested my testosterone, and it was low for a man my age -- 351 (reference range 200 > -1000). > > What is Phosphadetsterine? Is that the med that lowers cortisol? Are there any other > meds? > > Are high cortisol levels related to low T levels? Can you one normal and one abnormal? > Or do they both go hand and hand? > > > Thanks for any help! > > peace, > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 > > HI all. Question for you. About 2 weeks ago I started on Cortisol replacement. I take 12.5mg in AM and 2.5 at noon. Around dinner time I get a really bad slump in energy. I was wondering if you think it could be caused by the cortef? I thought about splitting up my doses more like 10mg in AM 2.5 at lunch and 2.5 at dinner. or doing 12.5 in AM and just moving the 2.5 back to say 2. Are these changes OK to make without consulting my Dr. What is your opinion? > > Thanks > > Sara > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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