lowering my TRT dose?

August 4, 2006

Here is my problem since starting to treat my Adrenals my T levels

are going to high. I do 64 mgs. of Depo T every 3 days and 350 IU's

of HCG the 2 days in between. My last test my levels were up to high

Total T was 1359 up from 1236 and before taking supplements for my

Adrenals my levels was 891 range 262 to 1593. I have always felt

better on higher doses but now that we know I am Hypopituitary and

treating it I don't feel I need high levels. I told this to my Dr.

and he said to lower my HCG down from 350 IU's to 250 IU's. Now after

reading what 1cc said about HCG bring up Cortisol levels. And reading

what Dr. said about it. This is what he said thanks to 1cc.

" Dr. Crisler:

" HCG, as a LH analog, increases the activity of the P450 SCC enzyme,

which converts CHOL to pregnenolone. Thus all three hormonal pathways

are stimulated in patients who may be either entirely, or very

nearly, HPTA suppressed. It is my belief this may be a factor in the

heightened sense of well-being my patients report throughout the week—

far in excess of what a minimal dose of HCG would produce by virtue

of induced testosterone production. "

Pregnenolone converts to DHEA, cortisol, etc.

I called my Dr. today and told him we are doing this wrong the HCG

makes me feel mush better just like the Isocort is doing. What if we

started lowering the T shots and leave the HCG alone.

He was gone for 20 mins. and came back on the phone and said yes

don't cut back on the HCG start cutting back on the T shots. I told

him I would like to stop the T shots and just try HCG he said no

problem try this.

So now how to do this cut back 10 mgs a week or what. Or as I am

cutting down on the T if I start to feel bad I can go up on the HCG.

So here I am I now need your help. I feel when I get to the point of

no T shots I will do my HCG everyday but how much. At one time I was

doing 100 IU's a day with my T shots so I feel it may be higher then

100 IU's a day.

Phil

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