Re: We're pregnant!

[Guest guest]

Well, testosterone isn't a fertility treatment so I don't think the

insurance co can deny testosterone treatment for that reason. I'd

probably stick with the fertility guy. At low doses, a vial of hcg

should last more than a month. With diligent shopping you should be

able to find hcg at competitive prices such that it isn't that much

more than the co-pay would have been. Same with testosterone. I use

injectible testosterone cypionate made by a compounding pharmacy.

While compounded drugs probably aren't covered by my insurance plan (I

hadn't tried), the cost per month is less than my copay would have

been anyway.

Brad

>

> Hi all,

> Some of you might remember me. I was put on HCG last fall by a

> fertility doctor. My wife and I have been trying to get pregnant

> again (one child already) for about 2 years and I had low to mod

> sperm count. Fertility doctor did a blood test and my Test. level

> was 260-280. Tried clomid but the sides were bad so he put me on

> HCG shots 2x a week at 5000ius a shot if you can believe that. Well

> after a month, we got the sperm count way up and got my wife

> pregnant a month or so later. Went to my GP to see about TRT and he

> will only do Test. not HCG. Took Dr s protocol to him, the

> whole bit. Says HCG might cause long term problems and its " anti-

> aging " . So I have found another local doc that does Test.

> replacement and am going to see him next week. I need to get the

> insurance company to start paying for the TRT like most of you out

> there. Because of the fertility doc, the insurance co would not

> cover my HCG. I have lowered my dose of HCG to 500ius 3x a week

> until i see the doc next week. I did not want to totally go off

> it. Phil, I tried once a day but at 100ius but it does not seem to

> work. Fatigue came back etc. I also take a 1/4 tab of Indolplex

> DIM a day to ward off high E2. I have thought of asking the doc for

> just HCG protocol as I am secondary but we do not want anymore kids

> and it looks like from Dr that test. with HCG is the best

> route. Read Shippens book, read all the digests here, and read the

> Meso board so i feel educated and up to speed. Any comments out

> there appreciated. I am nervous about what to do. thanks, Hank

>

[Guest guest]

What kind of Dr. is this new one.

Phil

maverick_2414 <maverick_2414@...> wrote:

Hi all,

Some of you might remember me. I was put on HCG last fall by a

fertility doctor. My wife and I have been trying to get pregnant

again (one child already) for about 2 years and I had low to mod

sperm count. Fertility doctor did a blood test and my Test. level

was 260-280. Tried clomid but the sides were bad so he put me on

HCG shots 2x a week at 5000ius a shot if you can believe that. Well

after a month, we got the sperm count way up and got my wife

pregnant a month or so later. Went to my GP to see about TRT and he

will only do Test. not HCG. Took Dr s protocol to him, the

whole bit. Says HCG might cause long term problems and its " anti-

aging " . So I have found another local doc that does Test.

replacement and am going to see him next week. I need to get the

insurance company to start paying for the TRT like most of you out

there. Because of the fertility doc, the insurance co would not

cover my HCG. I have lowered my dose of HCG to 500ius 3x a week

until i see the doc next week. I did not want to totally go off

it. Phil, I tried once a day but at 100ius but it does not seem to

work. Fatigue came back etc. I also take a 1/4 tab of Indolplex

DIM a day to ward off high E2. I have thought of asking the doc for

just HCG protocol as I am secondary but we do not want anymore kids

and it looks like from Dr that test. with HCG is the best

route. Read Shippens book, read all the digests here, and read the

Meso board so i feel educated and up to speed. Any comments out

there appreciated. I am nervous about what to do. thanks, Hank

[Guest guest]

It's wonderful to read your good news sir. You should

be happy you can bare another child. Be fortunate you

are secondary and can take HCG to help your testes

reproduce. I would give my life to reproduce and have

secondary hypogonadism, so please don't blow this

chance you have.

If situations between you and your wife go off course,

work them out, hopefully without cursing and fighting.

Make sure your children are healthy and never take

them for granted. Make sure they understand right and

wrong and never show any form of bias-ness. Sir, you

have a wonderful gift now, I wish you well and

continue to get healthy. Love your wife and family

always as well.

--- philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

> What kind of Dr. is this new one.

> Phil

>

> maverick_2414 <maverick_2414@...> wrote:

> Hi all,

> Some of you might remember me. I was put on HCG last

> fall by a

> fertility doctor. My wife and I have been trying to

> get pregnant

> again (one child already) for about 2 years and I

> had low to mod

> sperm count. Fertility doctor did a blood test and

> my Test. level

> was 260-280. Tried clomid but the sides were bad so

> he put me on

> HCG shots 2x a week at 5000ius a shot if you can

> believe that. Well

> after a month, we got the sperm count way up and got

> my wife

> pregnant a month or so later. Went to my GP to see

> about TRT and he

> will only do Test. not HCG. Took Dr s protocol

> to him, the

> whole bit. Says HCG might cause long term problems

> and its " anti-

> aging " . So I have found another local doc that does

> Test.

> replacement and am going to see him next week. I

> need to get the

> insurance company to start paying for the TRT like

> most of you out

> there. Because of the fertility doc, the insurance

> co would not

> cover my HCG. I have lowered my dose of HCG to

> 500ius 3x a week

> until i see the doc next week. I did not want to

> totally go off

> it. Phil, I tried once a day but at 100ius but it

> does not seem to

> work. Fatigue came back etc. I also take a 1/4 tab

> of Indolplex

> DIM a day to ward off high E2. I have thought of

> asking the doc for

> just HCG protocol as I am secondary but we do not

> want anymore kids

> and it looks like from Dr that test. with HCG

> is the best

> route. Read Shippens book, read all the digests

> here, and read the

> Meso board so i feel educated and up to speed. Any

> comments out

> there appreciated. I am nervous about what to do.

> thanks, Hank

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Phil, Sorry for the slow reply. I am on the daily digest. The doc

I am going to see Friday is an " antiaging " doc. According to his

office personnel, he does TRT as well as antiaging HGH etc. His

website says he monitors Test, Projesteron, estrogen, estridiol, all

the things that everyone on here monitors. My concern is will the

insurance co. pay for TRT with him if he is an " antiaging " doc. He

has an MD and is according to his website he is certified in

antiaging medecine. Thoughts? thanks, Hank

> Hi all,

> Some of you might remember me. I was put on HCG last fall by a

> fertility doctor. My wife and I have been trying to get pregnant

> again (one child already) for about 2 years and I had low to mod

> sperm count. Fertility doctor did a blood test and my Test. level

> was 260-280. Tried clomid but the sides were bad so he put me on

> HCG shots 2x a week at 5000ius a shot if you can believe that.

Well

> after a month, we got the sperm count way up and got my wife

> pregnant a month or so later. Went to my GP to see about TRT and

he

> will only do Test. not HCG. Took Dr s protocol to him, the

> whole bit. Says HCG might cause long term problems and its " anti-

> aging " . So I have found another local doc that does Test.

> replacement and am going to see him next week. I need to get the

> insurance company to start paying for the TRT like most of you out

> there. Because of the fertility doc, the insurance co would not

> cover my HCG. I have lowered my dose of HCG to 500ius 3x a week

> until i see the doc next week. I did not want to totally go off

> it. Phil, I tried once a day but at 100ius but it does not seem to

> work. Fatigue came back etc. I also take a 1/4 tab of Indolplex

> DIM a day to ward off high E2. I have thought of asking the doc

for

> just HCG protocol as I am secondary but we do not want anymore

kids

> and it looks like from Dr that test. with HCG is the best

> route. Read Shippens book, read all the digests here, and read the

> Meso board so i feel educated and up to speed. Any comments out

> there appreciated. I am nervous about what to do. thanks, Hank

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Elliott,

Thanks for your kind words! Wow. It is great having a son and we

are looking forward to having another child. It is difficult work

but there is nothing like the love of a child to his parents.

thanks again, Hank

> > Hi all,

> > Some of you might remember me. I was put on HCG last

> > fall by a

> > fertility doctor. My wife and I have been trying to

> > get pregnant

> > again (one child already) for about 2 years and I

> > had low to mod

> > sperm count. Fertility doctor did a blood test and

> > my Test. level

> > was 260-280. Tried clomid but the sides were bad so

> > he put me on

> > HCG shots 2x a week at 5000ius a shot if you can

> > believe that. Well

> > after a month, we got the sperm count way up and got

> > my wife

> > pregnant a month or so later. Went to my GP to see

> > about TRT and he

> > will only do Test. not HCG. Took Dr s protocol

> > to him, the

> > whole bit. Says HCG might cause long term problems

> > and its " anti-

> > aging " . So I have found another local doc that does

> > Test.

> > replacement and am going to see him next week. I

> > need to get the

> > insurance company to start paying for the TRT like

> > most of you out

> > there. Because of the fertility doc, the insurance

> > co would not

> > cover my HCG. I have lowered my dose of HCG to

> > 500ius 3x a week

> > until i see the doc next week. I did not want to

> > totally go off

> > it. Phil, I tried once a day but at 100ius but it

> > does not seem to

> > work. Fatigue came back etc. I also take a 1/4 tab

> > of Indolplex

> > DIM a day to ward off high E2. I have thought of

> > asking the doc for

> > just HCG protocol as I am secondary but we do not

> > want anymore kids

> > and it looks like from Dr that test. with HCG

> > is the best

> > route. Read Shippens book, read all the digests

> > here, and read the

> > Meso board so i feel educated and up to speed. Any

> > comments out

> > there appreciated. I am nervous about what to do.

> > thanks, Hank

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

You should have no problems with your insurance as long as he does not bill your

treatment as antiaging. Sounds like a good one keep us posted how it goes.

Phil

maverick_2414 <maverick_2414@...> wrote:

Phil, Sorry for the slow reply. I am on the daily digest. The doc

I am going to see Friday is an " antiaging " doc. According to his

office personnel, he does TRT as well as antiaging HGH etc. His

website says he monitors Test, Projesteron, estrogen, estridiol, all

the things that everyone on here monitors. My concern is will the

insurance co. pay for TRT with him if he is an " antiaging " doc. He

has an MD and is according to his website he is certified in

antiaging medecine. Thoughts? thanks, Hank

> Hi all,

> Some of you might remember me. I was put on HCG last fall by a

> fertility doctor. My wife and I have been trying to get pregnant

> again (one child already) for about 2 years and I had low to mod

> sperm count. Fertility doctor did a blood test and my Test. level

> was 260-280. Tried clomid but the sides were bad so he put me on

> HCG shots 2x a week at 5000ius a shot if you can believe that.

Well

> after a month, we got the sperm count way up and got my wife

> pregnant a month or so later. Went to my GP to see about TRT and

he

> will only do Test. not HCG. Took Dr s protocol to him, the

> whole bit. Says HCG might cause long term problems and its " anti-

> aging " . So I have found another local doc that does Test.

> replacement and am going to see him next week. I need to get the

> insurance company to start paying for the TRT like most of you out

> there. Because of the fertility doc, the insurance co would not

> cover my HCG. I have lowered my dose of HCG to 500ius 3x a week

> until i see the doc next week. I did not want to totally go off

> it. Phil, I tried once a day but at 100ius but it does not seem to

> work. Fatigue came back etc. I also take a 1/4 tab of Indolplex

> DIM a day to ward off high E2. I have thought of asking the doc

for

> just HCG protocol as I am secondary but we do not want anymore

kids

> and it looks like from Dr that test. with HCG is the best

> route. Read Shippens book, read all the digests here, and read the

> Meso board so i feel educated and up to speed. Any comments out

> there appreciated. I am nervous about what to do. thanks, Hank

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am so happy that you guys got pregnant again, and that soon wow ! I remember

when we were trying to get pregnant back in the 50's. We both testesd and

found

nothing particularly wrong except my sperm count was low but at that time they

didn't know what to do about it, so we kept on trying. After 10 years our

Pastor

finally found a young lady that was pregnant and wanted to adobt her baby out

to

a Christian family. We accepted and didn't even know yet whether it was a boy

or girl. Turned out to be a baby girl. We got her in the end with little

fanfare. She

was what we called back then a 'gray baby' since we didn't go through an

adoption

agency. After another 4 yrs. my wife got pregnant and we had a boy of our

own.

My wife was 37 and he was a change of life baby.

We were never sorry that we got the little girl and love her just as much as

our

son. They turned out to be wonderful and extremely bright children. Today

she

is a security technichian for 'bank' security on computers. A darned good

paying job. She married a wonderfuf man, he is a City Policeman. Both of the

children

went went to college, she has two degrees and our son has a PHD degree. We

ourselves never went to college because of WWII, missed the boat. Your are

so right, children really fill a wonderful place in your heart. I don't know

now

what we do without them. They both have beautiful families now and we are

not only grandpa and grandma but also Great grandparents. For us the two

were the cement that bound us together as a family. You will never regret

having them. Love them, correct them when they are wrong and cherish them.

God blessed you with two, take care of them and show and tell them how

much you love them, you will never be sorry. God bless you all !

Roy

maverick_2414 <maverick_2414@...> wrote:

Elliott,

Thanks for your kind words! Wow. It is great having a son and we

are looking forward to having another child. It is difficult work

but there is nothing like the love of a child to his parents.

thanks again, Hank

> > Hi all,

> > Some of you might remember me. I was put on HCG last

> > fall by a

> > fertility doctor. My wife and I have been trying to

> > get pregnant

> > again (one child already) for about 2 years and I

> > had low to mod

> > sperm count. Fertility doctor did a blood test and

> > my Test. level

> > was 260-280. Tried clomid but the sides were bad so

> > he put me on

> > HCG shots 2x a week at 5000ius a shot if you can

> > believe that. Well

> > after a month, we got the sperm count way up and got

> > my wife

> > pregnant a month or so later. Went to my GP to see

> > about TRT and he

> > will only do Test. not HCG. Took Dr s protocol

> > to him, the

> > whole bit. Says HCG might cause long term problems

> > and its " anti-

> > aging " . So I have found another local doc that does

> > Test.

> > replacement and am going to see him next week. I

> > need to get the

> > insurance company to start paying for the TRT like

> > most of you out

> > there. Because of the fertility doc, the insurance

> > co would not

> > cover my HCG. I have lowered my dose of HCG to

> > 500ius 3x a week

> > until i see the doc next week. I did not want to

> > totally go off

> > it. Phil, I tried once a day but at 100ius but it

> > does not seem to

> > work. Fatigue came back etc. I also take a 1/4 tab

> > of Indolplex

> > DIM a day to ward off high E2. I have thought of

> > asking the doc for

> > just HCG protocol as I am secondary but we do not

> > want anymore kids

> > and it looks like from Dr that test. with HCG

> > is the best

> > route. Read Shippens book, read all the digests

> > here, and read the

> > Meso board so i feel educated and up to speed. Any

> > comments out

> > there appreciated. I am nervous about what to do.

> > thanks, Hank

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >