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--- Marque <susanmarque@...> wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> Canker sores are a form of the herpes virus.

> Macrobiotics would suggest to

> utilize sea weeds especially to resolve them.

> Eating sea veggies like

> Arame, HIziki and Dulse are especially beneficial.

> You may wish to keep

> some of the arame for example tucking inside the

> mouth for a bit too. Some

> people take Lycine suppliments to ward them off or

> assist in eliminating

> them once a breakout is out. I have found very good

> results when people

> take Monolaurin suppliments every single day on an

> empty stomach (starting

> with 6 capsules) until they no longer get outbreaks.

> The lauric acid from

> the monolaurin will break down the lipid envelope on

> the virus and the

> breakouts will diminish. Good quality salt (a good

> sea salt) should not

> aggrivate the virus. It is the iodized stripped

> down table salt that can be

> a problem.

>

> On 9/9/07, Dissen <a_dissen@...>

> wrote:

> >

> > This may seem like a silly question, but does

> anybody

> > have any advice as to the cause/treatment of

> canker

> > sores? I feel like my whole life I've been told it

> > was from eating too much salty or spicy foods, and

> > that very well could be true but I keep wondering

> if

> > there might be something else. My younger brother

> > gets them all the time, and I'd love to be able to

> > tell him something besides salt and spice, but if

> > that's all there is to it then that's fine.

> Luckily

> > he doesn't have any right now, and I have no idea

> what

> > put this topic on my mind this morning, but this

> way I

> > can have some info to tell him the next time he

> gets a

> > batch (which, for his sake, I hope won't be for a

> > while!). And are there any good macro remedies for

> > treating them once they have come?

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Yes, canker sores, cold sores, shingles and herpes are all related virus'. They are a family of lipid enveloped virus that are very difficult to eliminate from the body. Shingles actually comes out of having chick pox and then often shows up much later in life. There are treatments found to " cure " these ailments but are not legal at least in the U.S. like using ozone therapy. Monolaurin is as close to a " cure " as I know that is legal.On 9/9/07, Cassidy <

christinecassidy@...> wrote:

I do not think canker sores are a herpes virus. They are a virus,

but a different one. This site explains it well:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000998.htm

Nutritional deficiencies may be the problem, Adele said that

niacin may help.

On Sep 9, 2007, at 7:33 AM, Marque wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> Canker sores are a form of the herpes virus. Macrobiotics would

> suggest to utilize sea weeds especially to resolve them. Eating

> sea veggies like Arame, HIziki and Dulse are especially

> beneficial. You may wish to keep some of the arame for example

> tucking inside the mouth for a bit too. Some people take Lycine

> suppliments to ward them off or assist in eliminating them once a

> breakout is out. I have found very good results when people take

> Monolaurin suppliments every single day on an empty stomach

> (starting with 6 capsules) until they no longer get outbreaks. The

> lauric acid from the monolaurin will break down the lipid envelope

> on the virus and the breakouts will diminish. Good quality salt (a

> good sea salt) should not aggrivate the virus. It is the iodized

> stripped down table salt that can be a problem.

>

> On 9/9/07, Dissen <a_dissen@...> wrote:

> This may seem like a silly question, but does anybody

> have any advice as to the cause/treatment of canker

> sores? I feel like my whole life I've been told it

> was from eating too much salty or spicy foods, and

> that very well could be true but I keep wondering if

> there might be something else. My younger brother

> gets them all the time, and I'd love to be able to

> tell him something besides salt and spice, but if

> that's all there is to it then that's fine. Luckily

> he doesn't have any right now, and I have no idea what

> put this topic on my mind this morning, but this way I

> can have some info to tell him the next time he gets a

> batch (which, for his sake, I hope won't be for a

> while!). And are there any good macro remedies for

> treating them once they have come?

>

>

>

>

>

-- Food & Life Coach Marque " Love Your Body, Love Your Life " www.Marque.com310.453.7525

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Yes, canker sores, cold sores, shingles and herpes are all related virus'. They are a family of lipid enveloped virus that are very difficult to eliminate from the body. Shingles actually comes out of having chick pox and then often shows up much later in life. There are treatments found to " cure " these ailments but are not legal at least in the U.S. like using ozone therapy. Monolaurin is as close to a " cure " as I know that is legal.On 9/9/07, Cassidy <

christinecassidy@...> wrote:

I do not think canker sores are a herpes virus. They are a virus,

but a different one. This site explains it well:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000998.htm

Nutritional deficiencies may be the problem, Adele said that

niacin may help.

On Sep 9, 2007, at 7:33 AM, Marque wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> Canker sores are a form of the herpes virus. Macrobiotics would

> suggest to utilize sea weeds especially to resolve them. Eating

> sea veggies like Arame, HIziki and Dulse are especially

> beneficial. You may wish to keep some of the arame for example

> tucking inside the mouth for a bit too. Some people take Lycine

> suppliments to ward them off or assist in eliminating them once a

> breakout is out. I have found very good results when people take

> Monolaurin suppliments every single day on an empty stomach

> (starting with 6 capsules) until they no longer get outbreaks. The

> lauric acid from the monolaurin will break down the lipid envelope

> on the virus and the breakouts will diminish. Good quality salt (a

> good sea salt) should not aggrivate the virus. It is the iodized

> stripped down table salt that can be a problem.

>

> On 9/9/07, Dissen <a_dissen@...> wrote:

> This may seem like a silly question, but does anybody

> have any advice as to the cause/treatment of canker

> sores? I feel like my whole life I've been told it

> was from eating too much salty or spicy foods, and

> that very well could be true but I keep wondering if

> there might be something else. My younger brother

> gets them all the time, and I'd love to be able to

> tell him something besides salt and spice, but if

> that's all there is to it then that's fine. Luckily

> he doesn't have any right now, and I have no idea what

> put this topic on my mind this morning, but this way I

> can have some info to tell him the next time he gets a

> batch (which, for his sake, I hope won't be for a

> while!). And are there any good macro remedies for

> treating them once they have come?

>

>

>

>

>

-- Food & Life Coach Marque " Love Your Body, Love Your Life " www.Marque.com310.453.7525

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,

It is actually a form of herpes The same virus is involved but they

are classified into type 1 and 2. The site you posted says this:

A canker sore is a painful, open sore in the mouth, which is white or

yellow and surrounded by a bright red area. A canker sore is benign

(not cancer). See also: Herpes

People can get genital herpes from giving/receiving oral sex from

someone with a cold sore.

> > This may seem like a silly question, but does anybody

> > have any advice as to the cause/treatment of canker

> > sores? I feel like my whole life I've been told it

> > was from eating too much salty or spicy foods, and

> > that very well could be true but I keep wondering if

> > there might be something else. My younger brother

> > gets them all the time, and I'd love to be able to

> > tell him something besides salt and spice, but if

> > that's all there is to it then that's fine. Luckily

> > he doesn't have any right now, and I have no idea what

> > put this topic on my mind this morning, but this way I

> > can have some info to tell him the next time he gets a

> > batch (which, for his sake, I hope won't be for a

> > while!). And are there any good macro remedies for

> > treating them once they have come?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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,

It is actually a form of herpes The same virus is involved but they

are classified into type 1 and 2. The site you posted says this:

A canker sore is a painful, open sore in the mouth, which is white or

yellow and surrounded by a bright red area. A canker sore is benign

(not cancer). See also: Herpes

People can get genital herpes from giving/receiving oral sex from

someone with a cold sore.

> > This may seem like a silly question, but does anybody

> > have any advice as to the cause/treatment of canker

> > sores? I feel like my whole life I've been told it

> > was from eating too much salty or spicy foods, and

> > that very well could be true but I keep wondering if

> > there might be something else. My younger brother

> > gets them all the time, and I'd love to be able to

> > tell him something besides salt and spice, but if

> > that's all there is to it then that's fine. Luckily

> > he doesn't have any right now, and I have no idea what

> > put this topic on my mind this morning, but this way I

> > can have some info to tell him the next time he gets a

> > batch (which, for his sake, I hope won't be for a

> > while!). And are there any good macro remedies for

> > treating them once they have come?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Canker sores

This may seem like a silly question, but does anybody

have any advice as to the cause/treatment of canker

sores? I feel like my whole life I've been told it

was from eating too much salty or spicy foods, and

that very well could be true but I keep wondering if

there might be something else. My younger brother

gets them all the time, and I'd love to be able to

tell him something besides salt and spice, but if

that's all there is to it then that's fine. Luckily

he doesn't have any right now, and I have no idea what

put this topic on my mind this morning, but this way I

can have some info to tell him the next time he gets a

batch (which, for his sake, I hope won't be for a

while!). And are there any good macro remedies for

treating them once they have come?

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Canker sores

This may seem like a silly question, but does anybody

have any advice as to the cause/treatment of canker

sores? I feel like my whole life I've been told it

was from eating too much salty or spicy foods, and

that very well could be true but I keep wondering if

there might be something else. My younger brother

gets them all the time, and I'd love to be able to

tell him something besides salt and spice, but if

that's all there is to it then that's fine. Luckily

he doesn't have any right now, and I have no idea what

put this topic on my mind this morning, but this way I

can have some info to tell him the next time he gets a

batch (which, for his sake, I hope won't be for a

while!). And are there any good macro remedies for

treating them once they have come?

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That would be true of most all disease but I'm not sure testing saliva or urine is much of a test really. You would need to test your intercellular fluid to know if your blood is being effected. Even the folks who use ph strips and do a little act on acid/alkaline balancing have told me " back stage " they know it is not much of a test but it gives people something to do. Also don't be fooled by inaccurate lists that state foods like dates to be alkalizing. I think you can tell just from eating a macrobiotic diet that some foods make you feel more centered and focused and are usually more alkaline. A date might have some minerals that make it come up alkaline in certain studies but come on, it is full of sugar and that far outweighs the few minerals. How do you feel when you eat the very sweet dates? More centered or more spacey, relaxed, etc??? I like to teach yin/yang along with acid/alkaline because using the two systems together there can be a greater understanding. Balance is not achieved in the extremes. It is a practice. All of us play with this practice and the more understanding and awareness you have the better it gets. Vitamin C is necessary for immune function especially when eating a grain based diet. It's an acid and very yin so yes, high doses would aggrivate all of the herpes related virus even though some could help. Again, balance.

On 9/10/07, yourgirleyj@... <yourgirleyj@...> wrote:

Check the ph (acid/alkaline) of your saliva.

They generally thrive in more acid environment.

J.

-----Original Message-----

From: Dissen <a_dissen@...>

This may seem like a silly question, but does anybody

have any advice as to the cause/treatment of canker

sores? I feel like my whole life I've been told it

was from eating too much salty or spicy foods, and

that very well could be true but I keep wondering if

there might be something else. My younger brother

gets them all the time, and I'd love to be able to

tell him something besides salt and spice, but if

that's all there is to it then that's fine. Luckily

he doesn't have any right now, and I have no idea what

put this topic on my mind this morning, but this way I

can have some info to tell him the next time he gets a

batch (which, for his sake, I hope won't be for a

while!). And are there any good macro remedies for

treating them once they have come?

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That would be true of most all disease but I'm not sure testing saliva or urine is much of a test really. You would need to test your intercellular fluid to know if your blood is being effected. Even the folks who use ph strips and do a little act on acid/alkaline balancing have told me " back stage " they know it is not much of a test but it gives people something to do. Also don't be fooled by inaccurate lists that state foods like dates to be alkalizing. I think you can tell just from eating a macrobiotic diet that some foods make you feel more centered and focused and are usually more alkaline. A date might have some minerals that make it come up alkaline in certain studies but come on, it is full of sugar and that far outweighs the few minerals. How do you feel when you eat the very sweet dates? More centered or more spacey, relaxed, etc??? I like to teach yin/yang along with acid/alkaline because using the two systems together there can be a greater understanding. Balance is not achieved in the extremes. It is a practice. All of us play with this practice and the more understanding and awareness you have the better it gets. Vitamin C is necessary for immune function especially when eating a grain based diet. It's an acid and very yin so yes, high doses would aggrivate all of the herpes related virus even though some could help. Again, balance.

On 9/10/07, yourgirleyj@... <yourgirleyj@...> wrote:

Check the ph (acid/alkaline) of your saliva.

They generally thrive in more acid environment.

J.

-----Original Message-----

From: Dissen <a_dissen@...>

This may seem like a silly question, but does anybody

have any advice as to the cause/treatment of canker

sores? I feel like my whole life I've been told it

was from eating too much salty or spicy foods, and

that very well could be true but I keep wondering if

there might be something else. My younger brother

gets them all the time, and I'd love to be able to

tell him something besides salt and spice, but if

that's all there is to it then that's fine. Luckily

he doesn't have any right now, and I have no idea what

put this topic on my mind this morning, but this way I

can have some info to tell him the next time he gets a

batch (which, for his sake, I hope won't be for a

while!). And are there any good macro remedies for

treating them once they have come?

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Hi Holly,

As an adult I get canker sores. Something that I've found helpful is making

sure I take a vitamin C supplement. It makes the sores heal faster. Thus, I give

my son a chewable Flintstones on a daily basis. I haven't seen any canker

sores in his mouth since I started giving him the vitamin. Hope that helps!

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Steph, I have no idea what causes these sores but my daughter gets them often. We have asked her doctors and dentist what could be causing these but have not got any answers. I wonder if it is due to a deficiency of some sort? Carlson <scarlson1@...> wrote: My daughters seem to get blisters in teh

mouth alot. Dentist said they were some herpes thing. They are just little blisters taht hurt like crazy for a couple days. Anyone know of anything other than avoiding stress and citrus that helps them stay dormant? Steph

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If they are truly a herpes outbreak taking Lysine will help. You can find it in

capsule form and open the capsule to give to her - not sure the age of your

child. In addition, topical Lysine works well, but usually can only be found at

a compounding pharmacy. You can take a very large dose of Lysine without any

side effects. I usually take 5 capsules a day as needed. It should not only make

the outbreak duration shorter, but help the pain as well.

Hope this helps,

Caroline

---- Carlson <scarlson1@...> wrote:

> My daughters seem to get blisters in teh mouth alot. Dentist said they were

some herpes thing. They are just little blisters taht hurt like crazy for a

couple days.

>

> Anyone know of anything other than avoiding stress and citrus that helps them

stay dormant?

>

> Steph

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I have the same thing. I have not found anything to help it stay dormant but definitely avoiding stress & trying to stay healthy. I know when I am getting sick or my body is run down beacuse it flares up. It is very painful & I have found that Anbesol Maximum strength helps ease the pain & they seem to heal faster when I use it. Hope that helps. Carlson <scarlson1@...> wrote: My daughters seem to get blisters in teh mouth alot. Dentist said they were some herpes thing. They are just little blisters taht hurt like crazy for a couple days. Anyone know of anything other than avoiding stress and citrus that helps them stay dormant? Steph

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I get a lot of fever blisters and a Valtrex prescription knocks them right out. I assume it would work for canker sores too.

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If they are truly a herpes outbreak taking Lysine will help. You can find it in capsule form and open the capsule to give to her - not sure the age of your child. In addition, topical Lysine works well, but usually can only be found at a compounding pharmacy. You can take a very large dose of Lysine without any side effects. I usually take 5 capsules a day as needed. It should not only make the outbreak duration shorter, but help the pain as well.Hope this helps,Caroline---- Carlson <scarlson1cinci (DOT) rr.com> wrote: > My daughters seem to get blisters in teh mouth alot. Dentist said they were some herpes thing. They are just little blisters taht hurt like crazy for a couple days.> > Anyone know of anything other than avoiding stress and citrus that helps them stay dormant?> > Steph> > > >

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Hi all, Canker sores can be a big "pain in the mouth". I have had to deal with them my whole life. Alot of people say stress is the cause but, I don't think that is always the case. Alot of people say poor nutrition is the case but, I don't think that is always the case either. Here are a few things to try:- As was already said, the amino acid L-Lysine will help to knock them out or stop one from coming to a full head most of the time (I'll explain why "most of the time" below). As Caroline already said, high doses are usually needed. My nephew will take 5 to 10 lysine pills (500mg each) at the outset of a canker sore and it will stop it from forming. I have tried this sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.- Try gargling with Listerine, yes, it has to be Listerine brand not an off brand. Walmart's Equate version doesn't do the trick, believe me. At the first sign of a canker sore, swish some around in your mouth and hold it in there for about 1 minute. Keep it right on the sore spot as much as possible. Then gargle with the Listerine. Gargle with it extensively throughout the day. First thing when waking up, gargle with it. It supposedly kills all of those "bad" bacterias that have been brewing in your mouth when you are sleeping. This has worked quite well for me but, it is harder to do on a child due to the hotness of the Listerine.- When we lived overseas years ago, I never once got a canker sore. Our diet consisted of fruits & veggies, bread & yogurt. As soon as I got back to the States and had a few hamburgers and canned foods, boom, here came a canker sore. My guess is the preservatives. Unless you are a hard core vegetarian, this could be a reason canker sores come. Just my theory . . .- Sometimes, I think (well, I know it to be true in m own mouth), when a person has decay in their mouth (ie. cavities, bad brushing habits), more caner sores pop up. Whenever I go tot he dentist for dental work, I have a break out of canker sores. The past few months, I had to have a root canal & 4 crowns put on (bad teeth genetics run in the family!). I had so many canker sores, it was ridiculous. My mom found out from her dentist that it is caused sometimes by the mouth being overly dry, like when they have to put a crown on, they blow it dry excessively, they stuff cotton all around the gumline, etc . . . Plus, once one canker sore gets going, it can cause an "epidemic" in your mouth! I dealt with them by rubbing Kank-Aid (available at Wal-mart) all over the inside of my mouth (to numb it), then I rubbed Quantum Lip Clear Lysine+ Cold Sore Cream directly on them inside my mouth. They cleared up remarkably fast. I found this lysine cream on Ebay (Walmart didn't have it). It has Lysine, Goldenseal & other "goodies" in it.  So, there you have my "lecture" about canker sores.KimGot Down Syndromewww.gotdownsyndrome.net~ Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!www.atruechurch.info

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Hi Janie,

We call them mouth ulcers which come and go with JA. Get some Oragel to

numb up the spots and she should eat better. Salty foods make it burn.

will use Oragel or Oragel Canker. During the time she has them but

stays

away from Salty foods. They just come and go with JA kid's. I would call the

Dentist and ask if there's anything else which would help.

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I personally don't know what the cause is, but my daughter who does

not have JA gets them all the time. The doctor ordered magic mouth

wash. It has benadryl, lidocaine, and maalox. They can swish and

swallow or swish and spit. It numbs it up long enough for her to

eat. The doc said she could use it every 2 hours. Seems to help.

(, 5 pauci)

On Oct 2, 2008, at 5:40 PM, cjcline2 wrote:

> Has anyone else had trouble with canker sores in their mouth and

> throat? My daughter, Makayla, who is 6, has had several in her mouth

> for about 3 weeks. If so, does anyone know what I can give her for

> these? She hasn't been eating much due to these and has lost 3 pounds

> since August. Could it be her medicine causing this or is it the JA?

> Thanks!

> Janie

>

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Mouth sores inside the mouth can be caused by Methotrexate. If

Makayla is taking that then she should be taking folic acid to help

with the sores. It may just take increasing the folic acid dose to

get rid of them.

& Grant (11, PsA/Uveitis)

>

> Has anyone else had trouble with canker sores in their mouth and

> throat? My daughter, Makayla, who is 6, has had several in her mouth

> for about 3 weeks. If so, does anyone know what I can give her for

> these? She hasn't been eating much due to these and has lost 3 pounds

> since August. Could it be her medicine causing this or is it the JA?

> Thanks!

> Janie

>

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Hi,

Not sure what meds your child is taking, but many have the side effect

of canker sores. We have gotten them from metho. We upped our intake

of folate and problem resolved immediately. Hope this helps!

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As others said, could be the MTX if she is on it. She should be on folic

acid to help counter act the side effects, mouth sores being one. Chris

used Listerine as well to help if he did develop any. It really worked

for him, to keep the mouth comfortable and the mouth sours at bay. Good

luck, Michele ( 21, spondy)

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Subject: canker sores

Has anyone else had trouble with canker sores in their mouth and

throat? My daughter, Makayla, who is 6, has had several in her mouth

for about 3 weeks. If so, does anyone know what I can give her for

these? She hasn't been eating much due to these and has lost 3 pounds

since August. Could it be her medicine causing this or is it the JA?

Thanks!

Janie

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>

> Anyone with recommendations to help with canker sore pain or

> persistent canker sores that don;t go away? I thought I saw something

> here not to long ago, but when I search for it I can't seem to find

> anything.

>

> Thanks

>

>

****The place to search for most things is on Bee's website (not this

group), her

articles are on her website. So, I typed in " canker sores " on her website and

came up with

this link for treatments:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/treat18.php

Hope this helps,

Marissa

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I got canker sores all of the time. Since I have been on the diet and taking

probiotics, I don't get them. I found that swishing warm/hot salt water in my

mouth made them go away. Also swishing hydrogen peroxide too.

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wrote: Over the

past three to four weeks I've had a problem with canker sores in my mouth. No

sooner than one heals another appears. Has anyone else had a problem with

canker sores? … Can this be a sign that my

immune system is getting weaker?

---------------

,

I can’t say for sure, but it seems reasonable that the

continuing sores might be a result of a somewhat weakened immune system. By definition,

all CLLers have weakened immune systems. I get the sores, like cold sores,

when stressed or when fighting off other infections. You might try taking B

vitamins during this time – specifically niacinamide and pantothenic acid – and

see whether that helps. It seems to have helped me in the past.

Karni

dx Nov. 2003, tx F/R 2008

in remission, now anemic (iron-deficient) and taking iron

otherwise feeling fine

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