Re: Water sold in plastic containers

[Guest guest]

GB,

Unless and until I see HARD research that shows that plastic, food-

grade containers that are NOT heated leach plastic into the water, I

will continue to use plastic conatiners for my water. But thank you for

the warning. I think it is unwarranted. I stopped heating things in

plastic quite a while ago. Not even sure plastic that is not heated

significantly leaches plastic into whatever is in it. But plastic

containers kept cold or at room temperature are, in my opinion, hardly

going to leach plastic into the water.

Elliot

3:16

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I can't show you any research on this, but my taste buds tell me that some

water kept in plastic containers sometimes tastes a lot like plastic, even

though nobody has heated it. I just think it may be enough for the

distributor or the store to have left the container in the sun for a few

hours (or days) in warm sunny weather to have some of the plastic leach into

the water.

Best wishes,

Kasturbai

Barcelona, Spain

[Guest guest]

You are right Kasturbai,

I have a relative who sells reverse osmosis filters and he has a measuring

device which measures how many foreign part per million are contained in the

water. The best filters should filter water to contain 0 parts per million.

Unfiltered water in our town has close to 200 parts per million (very

disgusting). When he tested the spring water in plastic containers he gets about

50 parts per million. One should stay away from water sold in plastic.

Health and blessings to all,

Bella

[Guest guest]

Depends on what kind of plastic one is talking about. There are many

kinds, some safer than others. What does one put water into, in some

cases, if not plastic? Here is an interesting article by someone who at

least sounds like he knows what he is talking about:

http://www.grist.org/advice/ask/2004/08/02/umbra-bottles/

As for water that smells like plastic--- I would not drink it just

because of the very unappetizing smell. None of the water in my plastic

bottles ever smells like plastic.

Plastic leaching into containers is a real consideration, but again,

one can only do as much as one can do. The author of the article in the

link above appears to have settled on some ideas he can live with. I

can live with them, too.

Best wishes,

Elliot

3:16

[Guest guest]

The article that Elliot sent is a good one and basically balanced. However,

plastic leaches and we must consider the possiblity that we do not have

adequate measuring devices that would give us the real truth as far as " how

much " and in what quantity. But for me, even a little bit is too much.

I have had people sit in my office who have worked in the plastics industry.

And without giving me " too much information " they have indicated that we, as

in public, have " no idea " as to ramifications of the chemicals used and are

not being told the " exact " truth. Of course, we are slowly but surely

finding this out.

Possibly we should consider that this " numbering " of plastics is just

something to appease the public and manufacturers into a safety-mode.

Plastic and chemical companies are not known for being honest and when

" caught " they act as if they didn't know that xyz chemcial could be harmful

or leach. Hmmmm......

We must consider that, industry wide, there is the possiblity that most

bottled water, at some point, is in plastic. Whether it is to get it to the

bottling/manufacturing facility or to the grocery store big vending machine.

There is only one company that I know of who does bottle in 5 gallon glass

containers and that is Mountain Valley Spring. Befoe we used Mountain

Valley, we were using Ozarka Distilled Water. In the summer (which in Texas

is about 7 months out of the year), the bottles would be very hot from

sitting on the truck. I was very surprised to be able to tell a taste

difference between the Ozarka distilled and the Mountain Valley Spring

distilled. Evey my family could tell a difference.

Yes, we can only do the best we can. But water is VERY important to our

body and most importantly to the cell itself. It's sad that getting it in

glass is more expensive, but then most everything that is actually good for

us seems to cost more. Water is not something that I would recommend

cutting corners on.

The convenience of plastic has not been around for all that long and our

parents and grandparents did very well without it---possibly we also would

do well to do without it.

Be Well

Loretta

[Guest guest]

Let's be a bit reasonable about all the plastic stuff.

If we put distilled or Reverse-Osmosis water into one of these plastic

containers for a few hours or days, and maybe even let it warm up a bit

(NOT HOT) and repeat that a few times, virtually 98% or more of any

contaminants will get pulled out of the plastic by the water. Then

rinse a few times, and it's ready to use. Distilled water is VERY

reactive, and will pull minerals and chemicals out of anything it's in

contact with.

Dave

breathedeepnow wrote:

> Depends on what kind of plastic one is talking about. There are many

> kinds, some safer than others. What does one put water into, in some

> cases, if not plastic? Here is an interesting article by someone who at

> least sounds like he knows what he is talking about:

>

> http://www.grist.org/advice/ask/2004/08/02/umbra-bottles/

>

> As for water that smells like plastic--- I would not drink it just

> because of the very unappetizing smell. None of the water in my plastic

> bottles ever smells like plastic.

>

> Plastic leaching into containers is a real consideration, but again,

> one can only do as much as one can do. The author of the article in the

> link above appears to have settled on some ideas he can live with. I

> can live with them, too.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Elliot

> 3:16

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bella, what that device is measuring is simply dissolved solids in the

water. Most Spring Water will measure anywhere from 50 to over 100 ppm

of dissolved minerals in the water. Your municipal water probably

measures a hundred or more. Distilled will measure maybe up to 10 ppm

since simple distilling doesn't get everything. Regardless of the

filtering (and some Spring Waters are actually from the municipal

supply!!) it's very hard to get absolutely pure water. And there is the

argument that you probably don't want " dead " water, but it should have

some minimal minerals and all in it.

-Dave

bella yanovsky wrote:

> You are right Kasturbai,

>

> I have a relative who sells reverse osmosis filters and he has a measuring

device which measures how many foreign part per million are contained in the

water. The best filters should filter water to contain 0 parts per million.

Unfiltered water in our town has close to 200 parts per million (very

disgusting). When he tested the spring water in plastic containers he gets about

50 parts per million. One should stay away from water sold in plastic.

>

> Health and blessings to all,

> Bella

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dave,

One must always check the source of the spring water purchased. As I

understand it, if it istated that the water was bottled in a natural

source in Main, it should be OK to drink. " Desany " (I think that is

ow it is spelled) is municipal water and I would never drink it.

As to the Parts Per Million issue, I am not an expert by far, but 0

ppm water is pure water, not dead water. Of course we prefer healthy

minerals in the water, but we can not guarantee that minerals will

stay while toxins will be filtered out. For that reason, I would

rather have it contain nothing then something questionable. Minerals

can be supplied by other sources in more substantial way.

What do you think?

Bella

Dave wrote:

Regardless of the > filtering (and some Spring Waters are actually

from the municipal

> supply!!) it's very hard to get absolutely pure water. And there

is the

> argument that you probably don't want " dead " water, but it should

have

> some minimal minerals and all in it.

[Guest guest]

Best is probably either distilled or RO water, either with mineral drops

added - at least you should be able to tell what the minerals are.

Some communities have high arsenic content for example, or high

naturally occurring fluorides or much worse.

Dave

bella_yanovsky wrote:

> Dave,

> One must always check the source of the spring water purchased. As I

> understand it, if it istated that the water was bottled in a natural

> source in Main, it should be OK to drink. " Desany " (I think that is

> ow it is spelled) is municipal water and I would never drink it.

> As to the Parts Per Million issue, I am not an expert by far, but 0

> ppm water is pure water, not dead water. Of course we prefer healthy

> minerals in the water, but we can not guarantee that minerals will

> stay while toxins will be filtered out. For that reason, I would

> rather have it contain nothing then something questionable. Minerals

> can be supplied by other sources in more substantial way.

> What do you think?

> Bella

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