Colloidal Silver

[Guest guest]

hi john.....as i'm really a lurker on this site....i rarely post or reply..but your discussion with the CSW,woke me from my usual slumber....i feel like i need to give this a go .. my illness being MS ... over the years i have tried,and continue to try alternative treatments.....had a look on ebay UK...couple of machines to buy...its cheap as chips....so any help to get me started,please.........dave .....a windy,but warm Ipswich UK

Hi, :My apologies. I've been making my own CSW for probably too many years and I'm not as familiar with what's on the market anymore. If you send me a link to the company that makes ACS200 and Mesosilver, I'd be glad to investigate it for you and let you know. And thank you for the compliment. much appreciated. Usually I'm catching hell from someone for my beliefs and research...

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Steel <psteel5> wrote:

Ok

So ACS200 is the spray

Mesosilver would be the water...Right

Thanks a lot your a big help to all of us...

Steel

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Hi,I've been using my EMEM machine irregularly for Lyme and related issues. So, I"m familiar with my machine, but do get ovewhelmed when trying to pare down to a short list of pertinent frequencis when I need them.Could someone help me sort through some frequencies please?I'm having some trouble figuring out which of very many frequencies listed in the CAFL to use for some new issues. The worst of the four things on this list is the ear infection, but all are upper respiratory issues, both bacterial and viral. Ha, add allergy as the cause as well.1. Herpes (Simplex) - doctor said a nasal infection I had was a herpes infection that was going around. It has come back with lesser intensity several times over the past few weeks.2. Ear Infection (bacterial)- This too is a "it's going around" thing. So prevelant that most pharmacies in my city and the adjacent one had run out of the antibiotic/cortison e ear drops my doc prescribed. I will not be taking those.Started like an intense allergy and then became very infected.3. Sore throat - Has been clogged, sore several weeks from allergies, now it may be infected along with the ears.4. Sinusitis - chronic from allergies with infection flareups at times.The doc on Monday said the ear infection is bad enough to be the culprit in my feeling as though my body is fighting an infection, making me need to go to bed very early and sleep very late, and feel "fluish" overall.My guess is that the bacteria in my ears is affecting the other upper respiratory parts.I only want to do a handful (from 5-10 settings) because I herx intensely and have great difficulty clearing toxins from my body.Can someone please help me? I am so exhausted and Lyme-fogged in my brain, there's no way I can find a way to select the settings to use from all those categories.I've made a list of all the CAFL frequencies for those ailments but it's too overwhelming for me to select just a few.Ach! Help, please! Thanks.Blue

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[Guest guest]

A nanometer is a very tiny measurement. One nanometer equals 0.000000001 meter.

To convert microns to nanometers, move the decimal point to the right 3 places. .0008 equals .8 nanometer.

Char

________

mine is something like .ooo8 microns...how does that compare to 2-3 nanometer...what does 2-3 naometer mean?

[Guest guest]

A nanometer is a very tiny measurement. One nanometer equals 0.000000001 meter.

To convert microns to nanometers, move the decimal point to the right 3 places. .0008 equals .8 nanometer.

Char

________

mine is something like .ooo8 microns...how does that compare to 2-3 nanometer...what does 2-3 naometer mean?

[Guest guest]

A nanometer is a very tiny measurement. One nanometer equals 0.000000001 meter.

To convert microns to nanometers, move the decimal point to the right 3 places. .0008 equals .8 nanometer.

Char

________

mine is something like .ooo8 microns...how does that compare to 2-3 nanometer...what does 2-3 naometer mean?

[Guest guest]

[take a sample to a chem lab and have it tested]

-Actually I've had several samples analysed, and the following is the result for

one of those samples:

1 litre clear solution using my old home made LVDC mains power EIS generator.

Soluble Ag (filtered through 0.45 micron paper)...12.0mg/l

Total Ag (acidified HCL)...23.5

%ionic/%particulate...51/49

*Solids filtered using 0.45 micron paper...5.0mg/l

Theoretical insoluble Ag...11.5mg/l

Ph...7.4-----Conductivity 23uS-----Temp 21C

Analysed using AAS (atomic absorption spectroscopy).

*Filtering using 0.45 paper is of no concern to me as I must assume a degree of

agglomeration would have occurred during the filtering process.

Testing was done around 18 days after production which is ample time to

stabilize...no 'fallout', 'settlement' or 'sediment' observable in the bottom of

the containers.

After considerable research, particle sizing means little to me also so long as

I fail to observe *any* settlement or crap laying in the bottom of my containers

after days/weeks or months in storage I'm satisfied silver content is

bio-available.

I'd welcome a 'professional?' opinion, if anyone's willing to give it, if these

results amount to anything? If not then I would appreciate reasoning of why not

so I know what to specifically ask for the next time.

N.

>

>

> >Rife Group,

> >

> >There seems to be quite a lot of discussion here about so called " colloidal

silver " . So rather than believing the hype and hearsay you might what to learn

the scientific facts by going to the following website.

> >

> >

> >www.silver-colloids .com/Pubs/ AboutIonic. html

> >

> >

> >So the stuff you are making or buying is mostly ionic silver which has no

known health benefit but does have a very definite downside if the ppm level is

too high of turning your skin permanently gray. A true silver colloid might have

some health benefit but that's not what your getting.

> >

> >

> >Dr. Flaig

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> ________________________________

> From: cb <soundtree@windstrea m.net>

> >To: Rifeyahoogroups (DOT) com

> >Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 7:09:59 AM

> >

> >Subject: Re: Colloidal silver

> >

> >

> >A nanometer is a very tiny measurement. One nanometer equals 0.000000001

meter.

> >

> >To convert microns to nanometers, move the decimal point to the right 3

places. .0008 equals .8 nanometer.

> >

> >Char

> >________

> >mine is something like .ooo8 microns...how does that compare to 2-3

nanometer... what does 2-3 naometer mean?

> >>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

[take a sample to a chem lab and have it tested]

-Actually I've had several samples analysed, and the following is the result for

one of those samples:

1 litre clear solution using my old home made LVDC mains power EIS generator.

Soluble Ag (filtered through 0.45 micron paper)...12.0mg/l

Total Ag (acidified HCL)...23.5

%ionic/%particulate...51/49

*Solids filtered using 0.45 micron paper...5.0mg/l

Theoretical insoluble Ag...11.5mg/l

Ph...7.4-----Conductivity 23uS-----Temp 21C

Analysed using AAS (atomic absorption spectroscopy).

*Filtering using 0.45 paper is of no concern to me as I must assume a degree of

agglomeration would have occurred during the filtering process.

Testing was done around 18 days after production which is ample time to

stabilize...no 'fallout', 'settlement' or 'sediment' observable in the bottom of

the containers.

After considerable research, particle sizing means little to me also so long as

I fail to observe *any* settlement or crap laying in the bottom of my containers

after days/weeks or months in storage I'm satisfied silver content is

bio-available.

I'd welcome a 'professional?' opinion, if anyone's willing to give it, if these

results amount to anything? If not then I would appreciate reasoning of why not

so I know what to specifically ask for the next time.

N.

>

>

> >Rife Group,

> >

> >There seems to be quite a lot of discussion here about so called " colloidal

silver " . So rather than believing the hype and hearsay you might what to learn

the scientific facts by going to the following website.

> >

> >

> >www.silver-colloids .com/Pubs/ AboutIonic. html

> >

> >

> >So the stuff you are making or buying is mostly ionic silver which has no

known health benefit but does have a very definite downside if the ppm level is

too high of turning your skin permanently gray. A true silver colloid might have

some health benefit but that's not what your getting.

> >

> >

> >Dr. Flaig

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> ________________________________

> From: cb <soundtree@windstrea m.net>

> >To: Rifeyahoogroups (DOT) com

> >Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 7:09:59 AM

> >

> >Subject: Re: Colloidal silver

> >

> >

> >A nanometer is a very tiny measurement. One nanometer equals 0.000000001

meter.

> >

> >To convert microns to nanometers, move the decimal point to the right 3

places. .0008 equals .8 nanometer.

> >

> >Char

> >________

> >mine is something like .ooo8 microns...how does that compare to 2-3

nanometer... what does 2-3 naometer mean?

> >>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

[take a sample to a chem lab and have it tested]

-Actually I've had several samples analysed, and the following is the result for

one of those samples:

1 litre clear solution using my old home made LVDC mains power EIS generator.

Soluble Ag (filtered through 0.45 micron paper)...12.0mg/l

Total Ag (acidified HCL)...23.5

%ionic/%particulate...51/49

*Solids filtered using 0.45 micron paper...5.0mg/l

Theoretical insoluble Ag...11.5mg/l

Ph...7.4-----Conductivity 23uS-----Temp 21C

Analysed using AAS (atomic absorption spectroscopy).

*Filtering using 0.45 paper is of no concern to me as I must assume a degree of

agglomeration would have occurred during the filtering process.

Testing was done around 18 days after production which is ample time to

stabilize...no 'fallout', 'settlement' or 'sediment' observable in the bottom of

the containers.

After considerable research, particle sizing means little to me also so long as

I fail to observe *any* settlement or crap laying in the bottom of my containers

after days/weeks or months in storage I'm satisfied silver content is

bio-available.

I'd welcome a 'professional?' opinion, if anyone's willing to give it, if these

results amount to anything? If not then I would appreciate reasoning of why not

so I know what to specifically ask for the next time.

N.

>

>

> >Rife Group,

> >

> >There seems to be quite a lot of discussion here about so called " colloidal

silver " . So rather than believing the hype and hearsay you might what to learn

the scientific facts by going to the following website.

> >

> >

> >www.silver-colloids .com/Pubs/ AboutIonic. html

> >

> >

> >So the stuff you are making or buying is mostly ionic silver which has no

known health benefit but does have a very definite downside if the ppm level is

too high of turning your skin permanently gray. A true silver colloid might have

some health benefit but that's not what your getting.

> >

> >

> >Dr. Flaig

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> ________________________________

> From: cb <soundtree@windstrea m.net>

> >To: Rifeyahoogroups (DOT) com

> >Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 7:09:59 AM

> >

> >Subject: Re: Colloidal silver

> >

> >

> >A nanometer is a very tiny measurement. One nanometer equals 0.000000001

meter.

> >

> >To convert microns to nanometers, move the decimal point to the right 3

places. .0008 equals .8 nanometer.

> >

> >Char

> >________

> >mine is something like .ooo8 microns...how does that compare to 2-3

nanometer... what does 2-3 naometer mean?

> >>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

With all due respect, I'm more inclined to believe people who have true

experience with making their own CSW water and recovering from illness while

using their own brew than someone who has not used it. If has had success

in using his own brew then why would we question that. There are so very many

possibilities with the human body that perhaps 's brew is effective for

reasons beyond your comprehension. I certainly am not trying to be

confrontational, but whenever someone speaks in absolutes about the human body I

have to speak up and say, there is absolutely no way you could possibly know

that. I'm not sure where you are getting your " scientific facts " but the reality

is that unless you were there while these " facts " were being established, your

speaking from faith. Faith in your fellow man who wrote these supposed " facts " .

You're faith is noted, but I choose to believe the voice of experience.

>

> Rife Group,

> There seems to be quite a lot of discussion here about so called " colloidal

silver " . So rather than believing the hype and hearsay you might what to learn

the scientific facts by going to the following website.

>

>

> www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/AboutIonic.html

>

> So the stuff you are making or buying is mostly ionic silver which has no

known health benefit but does have a very definite downside if the ppm level is

too high of turning your skin permanently gray. A true silver colloid might have

some health benefit but that's not what your getting.

>

> Dr. Flaig

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: Rife

> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 7:09:59 AM

> Subject: Re: Colloidal silver

>

>

> A nanometer is a very tiny measurement. One nanometer equals 0.000000001

meter.

>

> To convert microns to nanometers, move the decimal point to the right 3

places. .0008 equals .8 nanometer.

>

> Char

> ________

> mine is something like .ooo8 microns...how does that compare to 2-3

nanometer... what does 2-3 naometer mean?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

With all due respect, I'm more inclined to believe people who have true

experience with making their own CSW water and recovering from illness while

using their own brew than someone who has not used it. If has had success

in using his own brew then why would we question that. There are so very many

possibilities with the human body that perhaps 's brew is effective for

reasons beyond your comprehension. I certainly am not trying to be

confrontational, but whenever someone speaks in absolutes about the human body I

have to speak up and say, there is absolutely no way you could possibly know

that. I'm not sure where you are getting your " scientific facts " but the reality

is that unless you were there while these " facts " were being established, your

speaking from faith. Faith in your fellow man who wrote these supposed " facts " .

You're faith is noted, but I choose to believe the voice of experience.

>

> Rife Group,

> There seems to be quite a lot of discussion here about so called " colloidal

silver " . So rather than believing the hype and hearsay you might what to learn

the scientific facts by going to the following website.

>

>

> www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/AboutIonic.html

>

> So the stuff you are making or buying is mostly ionic silver which has no

known health benefit but does have a very definite downside if the ppm level is

too high of turning your skin permanently gray. A true silver colloid might have

some health benefit but that's not what your getting.

>

> Dr. Flaig

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: Rife

> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 7:09:59 AM

> Subject: Re: Colloidal silver

>

>

> A nanometer is a very tiny measurement. One nanometer equals 0.000000001

meter.

>

> To convert microns to nanometers, move the decimal point to the right 3

places. .0008 equals .8 nanometer.

>

> Char

> ________

> mine is something like .ooo8 microns...how does that compare to 2-3

nanometer... what does 2-3 naometer mean?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

With all due respect, I'm more inclined to believe people who have true

experience with making their own CSW water and recovering from illness while

using their own brew than someone who has not used it. If has had success

in using his own brew then why would we question that. There are so very many

possibilities with the human body that perhaps 's brew is effective for

reasons beyond your comprehension. I certainly am not trying to be

confrontational, but whenever someone speaks in absolutes about the human body I

have to speak up and say, there is absolutely no way you could possibly know

that. I'm not sure where you are getting your " scientific facts " but the reality

is that unless you were there while these " facts " were being established, your

speaking from faith. Faith in your fellow man who wrote these supposed " facts " .

You're faith is noted, but I choose to believe the voice of experience.

>

> Rife Group,

> There seems to be quite a lot of discussion here about so called " colloidal

silver " . So rather than believing the hype and hearsay you might what to learn

the scientific facts by going to the following website.

>

>

> www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/AboutIonic.html

>

> So the stuff you are making or buying is mostly ionic silver which has no

known health benefit but does have a very definite downside if the ppm level is

too high of turning your skin permanently gray. A true silver colloid might have

some health benefit but that's not what your getting.

>

> Dr. Flaig

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: Rife

> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 7:09:59 AM

> Subject: Re: Colloidal silver

>

>

> A nanometer is a very tiny measurement. One nanometer equals 0.000000001

meter.

>

> To convert microns to nanometers, move the decimal point to the right 3

places. .0008 equals .8 nanometer.

>

> Char

> ________

> mine is something like .ooo8 microns...how does that compare to 2-3

nanometer... what does 2-3 naometer mean?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

--- bluheelr1 wrote:

<snip>

> The sooner people term it appropriately the sooner the

> product will be better understood by those who are seriously

> involved with the production of it, thus removing any

> confusion.  <snip>

>

> My suggestion would be for a more appropriate terminology

> for the product being spoken of.

I've made the same proposition regarding Rife and other frequency machines, but

the vast majority don't want it; so it's unlikely that they will accept your

proposition regarding silver. Most people involved in this stuff don't care

about scientific precision or method.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

--- bluheelr1 wrote:

<snip>

> The sooner people term it appropriately the sooner the

> product will be better understood by those who are seriously

> involved with the production of it, thus removing any

> confusion.  <snip>

>

> My suggestion would be for a more appropriate terminology

> for the product being spoken of.

I've made the same proposition regarding Rife and other frequency machines, but

the vast majority don't want it; so it's unlikely that they will accept your

proposition regarding silver. Most people involved in this stuff don't care

about scientific precision or method.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

--- bluheelr1 wrote:

<snip>

> The sooner people term it appropriately the sooner the

> product will be better understood by those who are seriously

> involved with the production of it, thus removing any

> confusion.  <snip>

>

> My suggestion would be for a more appropriate terminology

> for the product being spoken of.

I've made the same proposition regarding Rife and other frequency machines, but

the vast majority don't want it; so it's unlikely that they will accept your

proposition regarding silver. Most people involved in this stuff don't care

about scientific precision or method.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

No doubt about it being effective. My question is whether or not it is

safe. Or does it act like a toxic heavy metal?

Possibly it should be saved for emergencies.

Loyd

http://www.royalrife.com

E. s wrote:

>

>

> Thank you Nenah!!!!! I'm also an far infrared Sauna user 3 - 4 times

> weekly.

>

> Jon Ellis s

>

> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:56 AM, nenahsylver <nenahsylver@...

> > wrote:

>

>

>

> [ Flaig]. . . get a chemistry book and see what it says about

> ionic silver and HCL. You claim that your equipment produces

> " colloidal silver " . . . . . If you actually read the article you

> would have found that the antimicrobial effects ionic silver are

> destroyed when you drink it but actual silver atoms can be

> ingested and still be effective.

>

> ========================================

>

> Most of the CS (or EIS) generators on the market today produce a

> mixture of silver colloids and silver ions.

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> >

> >

> > [ Flaig]. . . get a chemistry book and see what it says about

> > ionic silver and HCL. You claim that your equipment produces

> > " colloidal silver " . . . . . If you actually read the article you

> > would have found that the antimicrobial effects ionic silver are

> > destroyed when you drink it but actual silver atoms can be

> > ingested and still be effective.

> >

> > ========================================

> >

> > Most of the CS (or EIS) generators on the market today produce a

> > mixture of silver colloids and silver ions.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ken wrote,

> I have a bottle of it in my cupboard " for emergency use " only.

I also agree with that thought, and for another reason. Pathogens

eventually become resistant to silver, just like they do to antibiotics.

See this article, which explains the mechanism and cross-bacterial transfer

of silver resistance genes among bacteria.

http://www.wwdmag.com/Coping-with-Resistance-to-Copper-Silver-Disinfection-artic\

le2768

At the bottom of which is a listing of some known resistances to copper and

silver:

Escherichia coli bacteria Cu

Klebsiella pneumoniae bacteria Cu & Ag

Legionella pneumophilia bacteria Cu & Ag

Salmonella sp. bacteria Ag

Vibrio cholerae bacteria Cu & Ag

Candida albicans yeast Cu

Saccharomyces cerevisiae yeast Cu & Ag

Hartmenella vermiformis protozoa Cu & Ag

Tetrahymena pyriformis protozoa Cu & Ag

Paramecium sp. protozoa Cu & Ag

Amoeba sp. protozoa Cu & Ag

A " silver resistance " search at PubMed brings up a lot of material. For

instance, article 12829274 mentions that the nasty E. coli strain O157:H7

has silver resistance genes in its genome. And that was in 2003.

My concern would be that continually ingesting silver as a preventive

measure, could create localized, slowly expanding regions or conditions of

silver-resistant organisms in the body, that gradually transfer the

resistance genes to silver-susceptible pathogens.

Best wishes, Char

[Guest guest]

Ken wrote,

> I have a bottle of it in my cupboard " for emergency use " only.

I also agree with that thought, and for another reason. Pathogens

eventually become resistant to silver, just like they do to antibiotics.

See this article, which explains the mechanism and cross-bacterial transfer

of silver resistance genes among bacteria.

http://www.wwdmag.com/Coping-with-Resistance-to-Copper-Silver-Disinfection-artic\

le2768

At the bottom of which is a listing of some known resistances to copper and

silver:

Escherichia coli bacteria Cu

Klebsiella pneumoniae bacteria Cu & Ag

Legionella pneumophilia bacteria Cu & Ag

Salmonella sp. bacteria Ag

Vibrio cholerae bacteria Cu & Ag

Candida albicans yeast Cu

Saccharomyces cerevisiae yeast Cu & Ag

Hartmenella vermiformis protozoa Cu & Ag

Tetrahymena pyriformis protozoa Cu & Ag

Paramecium sp. protozoa Cu & Ag

Amoeba sp. protozoa Cu & Ag

A " silver resistance " search at PubMed brings up a lot of material. For

instance, article 12829274 mentions that the nasty E. coli strain O157:H7

has silver resistance genes in its genome. And that was in 2003.

My concern would be that continually ingesting silver as a preventive

measure, could create localized, slowly expanding regions or conditions of

silver-resistant organisms in the body, that gradually transfer the

resistance genes to silver-susceptible pathogens.

Best wishes, Char

[Guest guest]

[called blue bloods for nothing.]

-While that may be good in theory, there is also another equally

plausable...royals were not known got get out and roll around in the dirt or

soil their hands too much and would have spent most of their lives indoors,

doing whatever it is they do, due to this predominantly indoor idle lifestyle it

may be worth considering that due to lack of exposure to sunlight on the skin it

would be evidenced in 'excessive paleness of the skin, hence blood vessels and

veins will in all probability become more evident through this pale skin giving

the illusion of 'blue' colouration of skin...I guess it's up to the individual

which of the two is more likely.

[silver has never been apart of the human nutritional blueprint.]

-While this may be true, nevertheless we intake an amount of silver in produce

we consume, and is there any evidence that this quantity of silver in the human

species serves no purpose, I suggest it does serve a purpose, and that purpose

may just be to assist our immune system, arguable of course, but nonetheless

feasable.

N.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> [ Flaig]. . . get a chemistry book and see what it says about

> >> ionic silver and HCL. You claim that your equipment produces

> >> " colloidal silver " . . . . . If you actually read the article you

> >> would have found that the antimicrobial effects ionic silver are

> >> destroyed when you drink it but actual silver atoms can be

> >> ingested and still be effective.

> >>

> >> ========================================

> >>

> >> Most of the CS (or EIS) generators on the market today produce a

> >> mixture of silver colloids and silver ions.

>

[Guest guest]

[called blue bloods for nothing.]

-While that may be good in theory, there is also another equally

plausable...royals were not known got get out and roll around in the dirt or

soil their hands too much and would have spent most of their lives indoors,

doing whatever it is they do, due to this predominantly indoor idle lifestyle it

may be worth considering that due to lack of exposure to sunlight on the skin it

would be evidenced in 'excessive paleness of the skin, hence blood vessels and

veins will in all probability become more evident through this pale skin giving

the illusion of 'blue' colouration of skin...I guess it's up to the individual

which of the two is more likely.

[silver has never been apart of the human nutritional blueprint.]

-While this may be true, nevertheless we intake an amount of silver in produce

we consume, and is there any evidence that this quantity of silver in the human

species serves no purpose, I suggest it does serve a purpose, and that purpose

may just be to assist our immune system, arguable of course, but nonetheless

feasable.

N.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> [ Flaig]. . . get a chemistry book and see what it says about

> >> ionic silver and HCL. You claim that your equipment produces

> >> " colloidal silver " . . . . . If you actually read the article you

> >> would have found that the antimicrobial effects ionic silver are

> >> destroyed when you drink it but actual silver atoms can be

> >> ingested and still be effective.

> >>

> >> ========================================

> >>

> >> Most of the CS (or EIS) generators on the market today produce a

> >> mixture of silver colloids and silver ions.

>

[Guest guest]

[ E. s] The Blueblood's were some of the only folks

who made it through the vicious plagues of the 15th and 16th centuries because

they ate off silver plates with silver utensils. Silver has been used

long before refrigeration to keep water fresh, milk fresh. It may not be

part of the human nutritional blueprint, but every cell has silver in it.

The healing properties of silver have been known for centuries. It may

not be something for daily use as good organic and natural foods, but it has

it's place and if made correctly and used correctly, has no side effects.

Why didn't Nadine Wooley have hormonal imbalances while she was ingesting 16 oz

daily for two years to address her MS - and progress with it? How did Dr.

Farber maintain his hormonal balances curing his Lyme disease using CSW.

I think you're overstretching, Ken.

=============================================

I’d basically have to agree with you, . In Chapter 3 of my new Rife

Handbook, there’s a section on silver. I added it to this edition because

I have seen first-hand—and listened to reports from others—how

invaluable properly made colloidal/ionic silver (or EIS, electrically isolated

silver) has been in helping them get well.

According to some new research, silver helps support immune

function, independent of its microbe-disabling qualities. Some authorities also

believe that silver is an essential nutrient, like other trace minerals.

That’s my opinion as well.

Mainstream media is great for sensationalizing all the weird

news, but they never tell you about the thousands of people who healed

themselves with homemade CS/EIS solutions. In my book, I discuss why silver has

gotten such a bad reputation. I personally spoke to Karason, the

“blue man” who was on national TV. He indeed made CS incorrectly,

using salt. There are two other widely publicized incidences of blue people,

and what they made was NOT CS, ionic silver or EIS. It was silver COMPOUNDS,

which have an entirely different effect than CS/ionic silver/EIS.

CS may not be the wisest thing to guzzle quarts of a day if

you’re healthy, but some people do it anyway and haven’t had a sick

day in their lives. AND their skins are normally hued. One naturopath colleague

in Canada

used to constantly report how his wife drank it when pregnant. The baby was

fine. The family used it in cooking, for soups, stews, tea (CS can be heated).

Everyone was fine. During flu season, none of the kids got sick while all their

classmates did.

CS is in my own repertoire of healing agents. Interestingly,

my partner never thought much of CS one way or the other—until I started

substituting straight CS in my dogs’ water dish for the filtered water

they’d been getting. The dogs drank THREE TIMES as much CS as they had

water. That really impressed my partner. Now, when he’s feeling under the

weather, he drinks it and it perks him right up.

I live in a very hot climate, where if you don’t drink

constantly it’s easy to become dehydrated. The water I kept in the car

when doing errands used to get contaminated really quickly—one-half or

one hour in the heat would breed so many microbes that I would become ill

(headache, sore throat) and the water would taste funky. I began adding one to

five ounces into the water bottle—any amount I felt like adding, it

wasn’t scientific—and the awful taste never occurred.

Everyone has their own experience of what they need. I

don’t think there’s any such thing as a “magic” pill

that solves everything. But there’s a good reason why Big Pharma

doesn’t like CS. On that basis alone, one has to think that CS is worth

trying.

Best,

Nenah

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency

Therapy (2009) –

NOW AVAILABLE IN HARDCOVER

www.nenahsylver.com

[Guest guest]

Ken:

I'm watching group discuss whether to take their silver straight or

diluted when it's parts per million and, if they are making their own, I

doubt that anyone has a clue of how many parts per million they are making.

This silver discussion is getting to be sublime and it may go poof and

disappear in a cloud of sliver so nano that " to be or not to be? " tis

the question.

If I take some of the " not to be " and dilute it ten to one, will it be

1/10th not to be or will it turn into the " to be " variety?

We are down in the homeopathy mud here without a clue of what is going

on at the cellular level in the body. I guess one could even wonder how

many microorganisms could be killed with a 1 part per million solution

before one runs out of silver molecules or maybe the water is imprinted

and there is enough of the " idea " to go around for infinity

microorganisms when the immune system gets the idea and runs with it.

Talk about " over stretching " .

We really need particle size, parts per million, body weight of the

patient inflicted, symptoms and time for cure if we want to

scientifically track the stuff. Otherwise it is all anecdotal and over

stretching or under stretching are both in woo woo land.

I have some of the " molecular silver " with a particle size of .062 nanos

and it " behaves like a gas " and may disappear in a puff of smoke. I

still take it and get better but really haven't a clue of what my body

is doing with anything this small. In fact, I don't know whether to add

it to bourbon to improve the bourbon or add bourbon to it to improve the

silver. In fact, I have not a clue if there is anything in this bottle

but expensive distilled water.

Then I get to the quote on the bottle that says, " This silver product is

in a different form of physics from other silver based products.

Virtually all of the silver disappears " . Well if virtually all of it

disappears, then I should not expect there to be any left in my bottle.

Maybe it is distilled water as virtually all of the silver has disappeared.

However, I will dilute it with bourbon the next time I take it as I

don't want to have it too strong a solution of " virtually all of it has

disappeared! " .

I really do not see how this perfectly clear solution in which

" virtually all of the silver has disappeared " could turn me blue if I

drank a pint a day.

Even my bottle filler does not know what is in the bottle as they list

the concentration as 1.7 to 10 ppm. How can they make something and

not know withing 600 percent what the concentration is that they made

with which they filled my bottle. Perhaps they can't measure it as they

don't know how much has " virtually disappeared " on their " disappeared

scale " of 1 to 10?.

Harvey in Houston

Ken Uzzell wrote:

>

>

> Hey ,

>

> I am just asking a question and you say I am overstretching ... I rest

> my case ... LOL

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Ken Uzzell

> http://heal-me.com.au <http://heal-me.com.au>

> HealMe Foundation

> A New Humanity Associate

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey, Ken:Good joke, man. I didn't allude to the idea that you need to consume it...

 

Hey

 

You write ...

[it may not be part of the human nutritional blueprint, but every cell has silver in it.]

 

So by your thinking ... if it is in cells I need to consume it. WoW ... great discovery.

 

There is also mercury in every cell in my body, so I'll knock up some colliod mercury and consume this daily and get back to you to let you know how I went.

 

Thanks for the great health tip :-)

 

Ken Uzzellhttp://heal-me.com.auHealMe FoundationA New Humanity Associate

[Guest guest]

,Just a couple questions for you:1. How do you know the Blueblood's were the only folks that made it through the plagues. Were you there? or do you have some data from a reliable source to support this claim? 2. Let's just say your right, then you conclude that this was because they ate off of silver plates. Gee, in logic we call this argument -- after the fact, therefore because of it. Logic would also suggest that there are many other possible factors that could explain this e.g., they had better food, they, the lived heated rooms, they drank wine, they had access to medical care, they were educated, etc. All factors which you have ignored in favor of your pet theory. If you can eliminate these other

factors, then get back to me. Dr. FlaigPS- And if you cured breast cancer with CS, I'd suggest you contact NCI because thousands of scientist have been working for 40 years and apparently they need your help. To: Rife Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 2:28:37 AMSubject: Re: Colloidal silver

The Blueblood's were some of the only folks who made it through the vicious plagues of the 15th and 16th centuries because they ate off silver plates with silver utensils. Silver has been used long before refrigeration to keep water fresh, milk fresh. It may not be part of the human nutritional blueprint, but every cell has silver in it. The healing properties of silver have been known for centuries. It may not be something for daily use as good organic and natural foods, but it has it's place and if made correctly and used correctly, has no side effects. Why didn't Nadine Wooley have hormonal imbalances while she was ingesting 16 oz daily for two years to address her MS - and progress with it? How did Dr. Farber maintain his hormonal balances curing his Lyme disease using CSW. I think you're overstretching, Ken.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Ken Uzzell <kenheal-me (DOT) com.au> wrote:

Dear and Members,

I agree with s view here. Silver has never been appart of the human

nutritional blueprint.

Looking at some aspects of its history with the royals of hundreds of years

ago who ate from silver utensiles - they weren't called blue bloods for

nothing.

Many of the royals suffered emotional and hormonal imblances - and we see

this here, today, when some people do question silver's use in health care

and wellness, the supporters get all emotional and come out very strong

defending its use.

Is this a sign of something more sinister lurking below the radar from long

term use ?

I have a bottle of it in my cupboard "for emergency use" only.

Sincerely,

Ken Uzzell

http://heal- me.com.au

HealMe Foundation

A New Humanity Associate

Re: Colloidal silver

> No doubt about it being effective. My question is whether or not it is

> safe. Or does it act like a toxic heavy metal?

>

> Possibly it should be saved for emergencies.

>

> Loyd

> http://www.royalrif e.com

>

>

>

> E. s wrote:

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>>

>> Thank you Nenah!!!!! I'm also an far infrared Sauna user 3 - 4 times

>> weekly.

>>

>> Jon Ellis s

>>

>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:56 AM, nenahsylver <nenahsylver@ cox.net

>> <mailto:nenahsylver@ cox.net>> wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>> [ Flaig]. . . get a chemistry book and see what it says about

>> ionic silver and HCL. You claim that your equipment produces

>> "colloidal silver". . . . . If you actually read the article you

>> would have found that the antimicrobial effects ionic silver are

>> destroyed when you drink it but actual silver atoms can be

>> ingested and still be effective.

>>

>> ============ ========= ========= ========= =

>>

>> Most of the CS (or EIS) generators on the market today produce a

>> mixture of silver colloids and silver ions.

[Guest guest]

Hey ,

I am just asking a question and you say I am overstretching ... I rest my case ... LOL

Sincerely,

Ken Uzzellhttp://heal-me.com.auHealMe FoundationA New Humanity Associate

Re: Colloidal silver> No doubt about it being effective. My question is whether or not it is> safe. Or does it act like a toxic heavy metal?>> Possibly it should be saved for emergencies.>> Loyd> http://www.royalrife.com>>>> E. s wrote:>>>>>> Thank you Nenah!!!!! I'm also an far infrared Sauna user 3 - 4 times>> weekly.>>>> Jon Ellis s>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:56 AM, nenahsylver > wrote:>>>>>>>> [ Flaig]. . . get a chemistry book and see what it says about>> ionic silver and HCL. You claim that your equipment produces>> "colloidal silver". . . . . If you actually read the article you>> would have found that the antimicrobial effects ionic silver are>> destroyed when you drink it but actual silver atoms can be>> ingested and still be effective.>>>> ========================================>>>> Most of the CS (or EIS) generators on the market today produce a>> mixture of silver colloids and silver ions.

[Guest guest]

What's this list turning into?

Yesterday someone posted that they felt sorry for us who use herbs and alternative

treatments going on to say that we are "hiding our heads in the sand.

This morninng it looks like the attack is on colloidal silver with postings alluding

to the most ridiculous that can be found on the web.

If you look in the wikipedia, a generally trusted source of information you will see

regarding the term blue blood:

Blue blood is an expression from the Spanish phrase "sangre azul," indicating noble birth or descent. This is said to derive from the fact that the native Spanish have thinner-walled blood vessels than people of Arab origin. After the Moorish occupation of Spain, intermarriage occurred. The result seems to have been that the aristocracy, particularly certain families in Castille, who would not mix with the Moors, showed rather bluer blood vessels (in, for example, the back of the hand) than the ordinary folk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_blood

not far from a racial slur.

Give it a rest folks, if you don't like herbs and colloidal silver, don't take them

but before you post anything you can dredge up with a search engine aka BS

at least do your homework so your misinformation doesn't harm others.

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From: PeachStatePam <figment@...>Subject: [ ] Colloidal Silver Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 4:08 AM

Why is the term "blue blood" used for aristocrats?

The term blue blood came to be associated with the aristrocracy simply because it was not uncommon in earlier times for European nobility to have skin that appeared to have a blue cast. The bluish (or sometimes greenish) discoloration of their skin was often caused by a condition known as Argyria.

Argyria it the result of ingested silver particles that are not able to pass through the body being deposited under the skin. Historically this was caused by particles from silver eating utensils being swallowed along with food or silver being taken for medicinal purposes. Since aristocrats were the ones who could afford medicine and who enjoyed the daily privilege of eating off of silver plates, dranking from silver vessels and as the saying goes being born with "a silver spoon in their mouth" it was a condition that was more common among the upper class.

During this same period in history having pale skin "untouched by the sun" was a mark of status among the wealthy who did not have to labor outdoors. Argryia would have certainly been more noticeable among individuals with untanned skin however it is also thought that the term may have come about simply because veins were more noticable among those with pale complexions even if they weren't plagued by this condition.

Argryia is not often seen today however it did become newsworthy in 2002 when Stan of Montana ran for the U.S. Senate. Mr. who out of fears that the Y2K bug would render the world helpless and without antibiotics begin a heavy regiment of colloidal silver which permanently turned his skin blue.

http://sensology.blogs.com/sensational_color/2006/08/agryria_is_the_.html

Oh yea....... give me some of that and then I too can be on Oprah! LOL NOT!

http://dailycontributor.com/man-turns-blue-after-taking-colloidal-silver/7196/

[ ] Colloid Silver

There is no known benefit of silver in the human body. A simple google search will show you that. Please don't waste your money and you can get some type of ailment that begins with an A that causes to to turn blue and saty that way. Even your organs turn blue.