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In a message dated 12/22/2004 1:03:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mickysz@... writes:

Oh Heck! What do I do know?

Hi Micky,

I stopped taking cox 2 and started Naproxen. Last night on the television

they said that it is now proven that Naproxen in large doses cause heart

disease. They consider what I take large doses. What do we take???

Janet

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In a message dated 12/22/2004 1:04:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mickysz@... writes:

Doctors in the UK have been advised to stop prescribing the so called

-2 drugs following revelations that they increase the risk of heart

attack. MHRA the UK licensing body wrote to all Doctors instructing them to

take all patients off of all -2 Inhibitors

Hey everyone,

I spent some time yesterday with some friends who are both in the

pharmaceutical field. They both told me that the risks of the -2s are

related to

dosages being tested in clinical trials for cancer, which are much higher doses

than we with arthritis typically take. The issue with Vioxx being recalled

in the US is probably more related to the company not wanting to bear the

costs of lawsuits than to being truly dangerous if taken as prescribed for

arthritis.

Just another perspective...I am planning to ask my rheumie when I go see

her, as she usually requests copies of the studies vs. relying on info in the

media. I have decided not to be too worried about this...

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I went to my doctor today, having been on celebrex (400 mg/daily)

since it came on the market - 4/5 years? I think he is as confused

as any of us. What we came up with is to take my 200 in the a.m. and

not take my p.m. dose. The preliminary studies seem to show that 200

mg/daily does not cause side effects. He really is concerned &

doesn't want to prescribe the " old " anti-inflammitories that can

cause stomach ulcers. I feel comfortable with this interim

arrangement until more concrete information is provided.

Ever lurking

Billie - have a wonderful stress/painfree holiday.

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hi micky,

have you tried mobic (meloxecam)? i was on vioxx and obviously had

to stop in september. i don't find mobic quite as effective, but it

is certainly better than no NSAID and it is easy to take. just a

suggestion.

take care and merry merry christmas micky,

love, karen

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> All Doctors in the UK have been advised to stop prescribing the so

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Hi , I have been on Mobic for a couple of years and it seems to

work where the others stopped working.

I had my 3 month appt. with my Rheumy yesterday and we talked about

it. Mobic is a COX-1 with a little of the COX-2 in it he said. So

the studies do not affect Mobic. They are pulling their hair out

trying to figure out what is going on. Now they are trying to say

Aleve is bad for you and like he says, it has been out for 35 years

and NOW they say it is bad.

As someone else noted this looks like a feeding frenzy. I agree

that you have to decide if you want to live with pain or go with

some side affects. What does riding in a car do to your life

expectancy vs just staying home and going no where. Eating a nice

big juicy hamburger affects your heart also, but I'm not going to

stop eating.

Getting out of bed in the morning is a risk that all of us take.

Just talk with you doctors before you raise your stress levels for

maybe no reason. All of us were told there was risks and side

affects with just about all the meds we need to live with as little

pain as possible. So this is no big surprise to me and I decided my

life was already over if I didn't use these drugs. So I am not

going to complain now.

Everyone have a nice and safe holiday.

Dick

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> hi micky,

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> have you tried mobic (meloxecam)? i was on vioxx and obviously

had

> to stop in september. i don't find mobic quite as effective, but

it

> is certainly better than no NSAID and it is easy to take. just a

> suggestion.

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> take care and merry merry christmas micky,

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> love, karen

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