B-12

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Re: B-12

> In a message dated 4/11/00 2:13:15 PM Central Daylight Time,

> egroups writes:

>

> << To whomever may be interested,

> I am still trying to unload 15 vials of B12, 10,000mcg injectable,

> expiration date, May 15. >>

>

> Is it hydrocobalamin and did you get it from College Pharmacy or one of

> the usual sources? If so, I will take it off your hands if you need some

> money.

> Are you sure you won't want to use the vials in the future?

>

> Mike

>

>

>

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on 7/6/00 2:59 PM, Sieverling at lsieverl@... wrote:

> Hud, I'm very grateful for the info on the hydroxy at 's that you've

> posted.

>

> However, I've tried calling the 800 number (from here in Texas) and I get a

> message saying the call cannot be completed as dialed. Any ideas? I called

> 1-800-361-6624. Is this correct? Should it work? Is there another number that

> isn't toll-free?

Hi there,

Sorry about that. i just called the number and it's only toll free inside

canada. You'll have to call long distance.

416-488-2600 Tel

416-484-8855 Fax

Hud

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Hud,

I know it's taken both ways but people have complained about red stains

under their skin when they do subcutaneous. Steve B.

Re: Corina :B-12

> on 11/14/00 2:42 PM, R. Bullock at bullocks@... wrote:

>

> > Your comparing apples to oranges. Methycobalamin is very different from

> > hydroxycobalamin. Hydroxy. neutralizes toxins and can be taken in high

> > doses IM (not subcutaneous).

>

> ,

>

> The hydroxy-b12 can be taken either way. Subq is more advantageous

because

> it is absorbed more slowly that way, in my opinion. I've never taken it

IM.

> But it can be taken either way.

>

> Hud

>

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

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<<Dr. D's encyclopedia mentioned taking B12 before bed>>

Funny - the woman at Whole Foods told me NOT to take it before bed because

it will energize me and I won't be able to sleep!

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Bob <blue74730@...> wrote:

Hi Bob, Replies below

> Gail, did you get knots in your shoulder muscles and neck muscles very

tight?

## Not so much the shoulders/neck. Rather low back and legs. For a while

I was on muscle relaxers, but they didn't seem to work very well. Was also

on pain pills and that worked better. It was when I started on the

magnesium sulfate shots that the muscles would relax. Magneisum is very

good for that. Later I discovered the magnesium orotates worked as well as

the shots and switched to them

## BTW, says back shoulder pain is a result of a clogged liver. You

might want to try her cleanses. They really helped to stabilize my health.

>

> Gail, I have been ill since '75 and on disability since '96. I thought I

had finally cured myself about 18 months ago but partying, trying to make up

for lost time....lol, and such caused a relapse.

## What is your health problem? Is it cfs? If so, I've always heard

alcohol will increase symptoms. I had a friend that also had cfs and

whenever he would drink, he always got worse. Still if you've acheived

health once after whatever illness you have, you can and will do it again!

I cannot seem to get back to consistent good health. 5,000 mcg. is a lot!!

Did you give yourself those injections? What part of the body did you use

for injections? I am just doing 1,000 mcg., 3 times weekly, how long did you

do the 5,000 mcg.?

Yes, I gave the injections to myself in the leg. It is important to have a

needle long enough to get into the muscle. I'd gone to a doctor down in the

valley that specalized in cfs and that is the amount he prescribed. They

also showed me how to give myself injections. I must have stayed on that

dose for 9 months or so. Whenever I ran out of the refills, I went to a

doctor where I live and he would only prescribe the 1,000 mcg. twice weekly.

By that time I was much better and the lower dose was sufficient. I can't

remember how long I stayed on that dose. Seem like another year or so, but

eventually the shots started making me feel drained instead of energized.

It was then I stopped taking them. Guess when you have had your fill of

something, your body will let you know.

##I understand now doctors are only allowed to prescribe 1,000 mcg. once a

month. I have a friend that has a very bad case of cfs and we can't find a

doctor who will even give her a prescrition for the shots. So we have had

to resort to getting them out of Canada. You don't need a prescrition to

get them there. You can just buy them over the counter. You can also buy

them over the counter in Mexico. But when I called Mexico, they wouldn't

ship them to me because they were in a glass bottle and he said it would

break. Guess they don't package them very good. So we just went with

Canada.

Gail

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Hi Tee.

McGuff's Compounding Pharacy makes injectable B-12 that is not too

expensive. They might be a good source for sublingual B-12 but I've

never discussed it with them. They are in Santa Ana, CA and their

phone # is 877-444-1133 (toll free).

Tom

> Does anyone know of any sublingual or nasal B-12 supplements that

*DO

> NOT* contain flavoring of any kind?

>

> Let this be a warning to everyone that stuff you buy is not always

> labeled properly!

>

> Thanks,

> Teewinot

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> Teewinot13@n...

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Hi Tom,

> McGuff's Compounding Pharacy makes injectable B-12 that is not too

> expensive. They might be a good source for sublingual B-12 but I've

> never discussed it with them. They are in Santa Ana, CA and their

> phone # is 877-444-1133 (toll free).

Thanks, I'll have to check it out. My internet searches have been

bombing out. If I find a formula that has a flavor I'm not allergic to,

it will have mannitol or sorbitol in it, which my stomach can't handle!

I'd be happy with no flavor, no sugar, or just plain sugar! LOL!!!

Teewinot

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Teewinot13@...

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Hi

I get most of my products in S Africa through the Life Extension

Foundation of USA. They carry warnings on contra-indications and

supply a full briefing on quantities depending on your specific

condition. To date, I've had no problems with them. Try them on

www.lifeextension.com. I know they are very available in the US.

Caryn

> I was taking B-12 sublingual tablets from Puritan's Pride for

years.

> All of a sudden they put natural orange flavor in them without

listing

> it in the catalog or on the bottle label. I got really sick

because I'm

> severely allergic to oranges and all citrus.

>

> I then switched to Vitamin Shoppe's after calling them to confirm

theirs

> didn't contain anything I'm sensitive to. Finished a bottle and

bought

> another one, only to discover yesterday that they are now using oil

of

> peppermint in theirs. Again, nothing on the label or in the

catalog.

> I'm severely allergic to oil of peppermint, and it aggravated my

hiatal

> hernia (which had been fine till now), so that I'm still really sick

> today.

>

> I decided to go back to Ener-B B-12 nasal gel, only to discover

that the

> U.S. gov't. sued them and prevents them (Nature's Bounty) from

selling

> it because they have deemed it a drug and the company hasn't been

> through the FDA approval process.

>

> Does anyone know of any sublingual or nasal B-12 supplements that

*DO

> NOT* contain flavoring of any kind?

>

> Let this be a warning to everyone that stuff you buy is not always

> labeled properly!

>

> Thanks,

> Teewinot

> @>--}-- * --{--<@

> Teewinot13@n...

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carynannreece wrote:

> I get most of my products in S Africa through the Life Extension

> Foundation of USA. They carry warnings on contra-indications and

> supply a full briefing on quantities depending on your specific

> condition. To date, I've had no problems with them. Try them on

> www.lifeextension.com. I know they are very available in the US.

Thanks, I'll check it out.

Teewinot

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Teewinot13@...

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carynannreece wrote:

> I get most of my products in S Africa through the Life Extension

> Foundation of USA. They carry warnings on contra-indications and

> supply a full briefing on quantities depending on your specific

> condition. To date, I've had no problems with them. Try them on

> www.lifeextension.com. I know they are very available in the US.

Unfortunately, their sublingual tablets contain sorbitol and mannitol

which I can't tolerate. I don't know why anyone has to add any

sweetener at all!

Teewinot

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Teewinot13@...

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I don't know what " Cheny's old pharmacy, " was, but I just checked w McGuff

(877)444-1133 last week and they were prepared to send me my refill as soon as I

wanted it.

Adrienne

B-12

Is anyone in California able to bet the b12 injectible that Cheney

used to prescribe? Cheney's old pharamcy apparently wasn't in

compliance with CA law.

Thanks,

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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I am in California and I get mine from McGuff's in LA. The number is in the

archives, but email me off line if you need it. They mail me the compounded

B12.

Doris

B-12

Is anyone in California able to bet the b12 injectible that Cheney

used to prescribe? Cheney's old pharamcy apparently wasn't in

compliance with CA law.

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Hi ,

I'm continuing to get my B12 and magnesium from Cheney's recommended pharmacy,

Wellness Pharmacy in Birmingham Alabama. I continue to use them because they

prepare preservative-free, single dose vials where McGuffs puts preservatives in

it. t's been a couple of months since my last order.

Can you tell me what the problem with Wellness being in compliance with CA law

is?

-- in AZ

B-12

Is anyone in California able to bet the b12 injectible that Cheney

used to prescribe? Cheney's old pharamcy apparently wasn't in

compliance with CA law.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

McGuff Pharmacy in Orange County 877-444-1133

B-12

Is anyone in California able to bet the b12 injectible that Cheney

used to prescribe? Cheney's old pharamcy apparently wasn't in

compliance with CA law.

Thanks,

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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[Guest guest]

Under California Law, a compounded item by a Pharmacist must be

proven safe. Apparently, Wellness has not followed the protcol set

forth in Californial.

Thanks,

> Hi ,

>

> I'm continuing to get my B12 and magnesium from Cheney's

recommended pharmacy, Wellness Pharmacy in Birmingham Alabama. I

continue to use them because they prepare preservative-free, single

dose vials where McGuffs puts preservatives in it. t's been a

couple of months since my last order.

>

> Can you tell me what the problem with Wellness being in compliance

with CA law is?

>

> -- in AZ

> B-12

>

>

> Is anyone in California able to bet the b12 injectible that

Cheney

> used to prescribe? Cheney's old pharamcy apparently wasn't in

> compliance with CA law.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

B-12

>

>

> Is anyone in California able to bet the b12 injectible that

Cheney

> used to prescribe? Cheney's old pharamcy apparently wasn't in

> compliance with CA law.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

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Awesome, how and where and how much for the needles?

--- Ellana <eclarke@...> wrote:

>

> My first shipment of injectable B-12 arrived today.

> They come in glass vials which you snap off the top

> and fill your syringe. I've just given myself the

> first dose so will let you know how it goes, as

> compared to the injection my doc gave me a month

> ago.

>

> Ellana

>

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Mike, I ordered the B-12 from this site www.gerovital.co.ro and I have had my

own syringes for my dogs.

Ellana

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I figured out the part about the vitamins, I was

wondering how to get needles and what size.

--- Ellana <eclarke@...> wrote:

> Mike, I ordered the B-12 from this site

> www.gerovital.co.ro and I have had my own syringes

> for my dogs.

>

> Ellana

>

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I always buy my syringes through a pet supply place. Try Valley Vet. I usually

get the 3cc w/25 ga needle.

Ellana

Re: B-12

I figured out the part about the vitamins, I was

wondering how to get needles and what size.

[Guest guest]

How long are the needles and where are you injecting?

Do you know of a website for injection site?

--- Ellana <eclarke@...> wrote:

> I always buy my syringes through a pet supply place.

> Try Valley Vet. I usually get the 3cc w/25 ga

> needle.

>

> Ellana

> Re: B-12

>

>

> I figured out the part about the vitamins, I was

> wondering how to get needles and what size.

>

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I'm considering these two items for B12 injections(see

links), pennies for your thoughts?

http://petsupplies4less.com/sbsite.php? & item=01101BD-3X25X5/8LL

http://www.canadamedicineshop.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.display/pn/Vitami\

n.B12.Injection.Cyanocobalamin/product_id/2046.htm

Mike

--- Ellana <eclarke@...> wrote:

> I always buy my syringes through a pet supply place.

> Try Valley Vet. I usually get the 3cc w/25 ga

> needle.

>

> Ellana

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Syringes are fine. Ordering from Canada, you need a script for Vit B-12

injectable.

Ellana

Re: B-12

I'm considering these two items for B12 injections(see

links), pennies for your thoughts?

http://petsupplies4less.com/sbsite.php? & item=01101BD-3X25X5/8LL

http://www.canadamedicineshop.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.display/pn/Vitami\

n.B12.Injection.Cyanocobalamin/product_id/2046.htm

Mike

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I correct myself, Mike.....no script is needed. I order a 10 dose vial just to

see if they asked for a prescription, and they did not.

So, I'll test this when it arrives. So far, I have felt no effects from the

injection I gave myself yesterday. When my doctor gives it to me, I get a power

'surge' that last several days.

Ellana

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According to their customer service, you don't need

one. I guess we'll find out for sure when I try to

place an order.

--- Ellana <eclarke@...> wrote:

> Syringes are fine. Ordering from Canada, you need a

> script for Vit B-12 injectable.

>

> Ellana

> Re: B-12

>

>

> I'm considering these two items for B12

> injections(see

> links), pennies for your thoughts?

>

>

>

http://petsupplies4less.com/sbsite.php? & item=01101BD-3X25X5/8LL

>

>

>

http://www.canadamedicineshop.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.display/pn/Vitami\

n.B12.Injection.Cyanocobalamin/product_id/2046.htm

>

> Mike

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