Re: GSE

[Guest guest]

nevermind, It is grape seed extract! sorry!

[Guest guest]

GSE is grapefruit seed extract not grape seed and the two are very different

[Guest guest]

> If you please, what is GSE? thanks, JJM

Grapefruit seed extract [not grape seed extract], from health food

store.

http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/yeast.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Hi all! As school is almost out, I am searching for GSE drops. Our

local health food store does not carry them. Does anyone order them

online? What is a good reputable vendor? Thanks for the help,

Here is the Nutribiotic page, on the bottom is a link for where to

find it.

http://www.nutribiotic.com/GSELiquid.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

> ok i have a ? about grapefruit seed extract. I gave my 3.5 year old

> son 3 drops yesterday morning for the first time, he stims about 40%

> of the day usually but within a couple hours of giving him this he

> has been stimming 99% even today. I dont no if he has yeast or a

> problem w/ fenols but he never reacts like this even w/ high fenol

> intake.

Here is my info for both phenols and yeast

http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/phenol.htm

http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/yeast.htm

GSE is high phenol, plus is VERY GOOD at killing yeast. It may be

that the combination of high phenol plus yeast die off was very high

for your child. I would reduce the GSE to 1 drop per day for a week

or so. Also, you can consider adding probiotics.

Dana

[Guest guest]

>>The

> capsules contain 100mg of GSE per capsule. I'm wondering how much

of

> this I should give to my 4 year old

On my bottle, one drop equals 10 mg, and it says for a child to give

1-3 drops, 1-2 times per day.

> and should I give it with No-Fenol

> or not at the same time?

My kids don't tolerate GSE unless I give it with NF.

I would start with 10 mg or so of the GSE [open the capsule and mix

with something] and 1/4 capsule or so of NF.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi Dana,

I thought GSE killed yeast AND bacteria. In fact, I

think we had an issue of " too much of a good thing "

and reduced my son down to three drops per day from

ten because I was suspecting that the good bacteria

was getting wiped out also.

I tried following the recommendation of three drops

only on chelation days, but we suspected a yeast

flare-up this week. So now we're trying three dops

every day. We'll see how that does.

Max

--- danaatty <danaatty@...> wrote:

> ...

>

> I use GSE for yeast, but it does kill ALL the yeast,

> which tends to

> make bacteria overgrow because there is no yeast to

> check it.

>

> Dana

>

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[Guest guest]

> I started my son on GSE 2 days back with 1 drop twice a day. Since

> morning today he's very dull (looks tired - I dont know why) lying

> down all the time - though a bit cranky sometimes. Is this

> tiredness/dullness some kind of die off? For the past 2 days he was

> quite hyper though (phenol effect I think) but today he seems just

> the opposite.

> Any thoughts?

Sounds like probably die off, or the yeast is now gone and bacteria is

starting to overgrow. Don't give the GSE more than 4 days total,

the yeast should be gone after about 4 days, see if that helps him.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Does GSE kill bacteria or only yeast

For my family, GSE only kills yeast, but it sure does kill it! So

giving it when there is no yeast, can make bacteria overgrow. The

body needs a balance of *some* yeast and some good bacteria.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> I have heard alot about this lately for yeast. How much should you

give a 34 lb child who is almost 4 years old?

Start with one drop [10 mg] in the morning, to see how he tolerates

it.

>> I have seen it in drops

and tablets. Is one better than the other?

The liquid is VERY STRONG, but it works faster than the capsules so

far as I have heard.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> I have been reading alot about Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE). It

> sounds nasty to ingest, but works wonders for gut bugs.

Well that is an accurate description.

I don't know

> that my son has gut bugs, but I'm sure he will once chelation

starts.

> Is this the thing to keep it under control?

It eliminates yeast for my kids in 2-3 days.

> Is it harmful when there

> are no gut bugs, like using it for maint? Tina

For my kids, if I give it when there is no yeast, it tends to allow

bacteria to overgrow. So when they have yeast, I give it for 2-3

days, then stop when the bms are firm. If I go too long, the bms will

start to get runny, at which point I remove the GSE and give a

Culturelle capsule and that gets rid of the bacteria. Then I don't

give anything, and the kids are fine until the next yeast issue.

During the early stages of chelation, I would give GSE on the last day

of the round, and the first " off " day, and that was usually

sufficient. Right now, after many rounds, my kids will get yeast

only about once every 2-3 months or so.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> I got the GSE - started it tonight according to the label. I am

> wondering what dosage/amt of drops others have used to fight the

> yeast and how long to give the GSE for.

I recommend starting with one drop in the morning, to see how he

tolerates it, and how he might tolerate any die off symptoms.

Depending on his age and weight, and how bad the yeast is, you can

increase to 2-3 drops, twice per day. Don't give it longer than a

week, unless you continue to see improvements, because once the yeast

is gone, it can cause bacteria to overgrow.

>> Also is it effective to give

> a probiotic during this time or will the GSE kill it off?

In my family's experience, GSE has no effect on bacteria. But if you

notice the probiotic is not as effective as usual, you can give it at

least two hours apart from the GSE.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dana,

I started her with 3 drops last night and she wet the bed first time

in a while, she slept so soundly though. When she did come to my bed

she whent right back to sleep and no teeth grinding. She weighs

about 55 lbs - does three drops twice a day sound about right? I took

10 drops and I could really feel a difference in my sinus area. Just

to be safe I'll give the probiotic 2 hours after.

Thanks for your help

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Dana,

>

> I started her with 3 drops last night and she wet the bed first time

> in a while, she slept so soundly though. When she did come to my

bed

> she whent right back to sleep and no teeth grinding. She weighs

> about 55 lbs - does three drops twice a day sound about right?

Yes, for about a week, or as long as you continue to see improvements.

Stop if the bms start looking watery, that would mean bacteria is

overgrowing for my kids.

>> I took

> 10 drops and I could really feel a difference in my sinus area.

Yes, I get yeast in my sinuses occasionally. GSE works well for me

also.

Just

> to be safe I'll give the probiotic 2 hours after.

No problem.

Dana

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[ ] GSE

Hi...

I would like to buy GSE from the website. Since I am from Indonesia, the

procedure is quite complicated. Anybody knows e-mail address and contact person

of producer of GSE? Usually, I ask the company to send them to my relative

address in USA or Singapore, then my relative will bring them to Indonesia.

Please e-mail me privately to deb_sianturi@....

Thanks.

Best regards,

Debbie Sianturi

[Guest guest]

> Now for my questions. I want to give hime GSE. I was told 4

> drops/day. This tasted awful. Is it OK to break up the 4 drops into

4

> separate doses or is the concentration important.

Start with one drop in the morning, to see how he tolerates it and how

he tolerates die off. Then give 2 drops, 2x per day. You need at

least two doses per day, otherwise the yeast has the rest of the day

to fight back.

My 2nd question

> deals with Houston's enzymes. I tried on AFP Peptizyde. Lots

> of stimming and behavior problems. Dr. Houston told me to stop it

and

> after several weeks try PrimeZyme. Honestly I am scared to. My

> primary reason for trying the Houston's Enzymes was to improve

> absorption and help heal the gut. Will the Houston enzymes make the

> yeast worse?

No-Fenol actually helps kill yeast. Together with GSE, the

combination works amazingly well for my family.

>> Any other suggestions for the yeast?

My page gives quite a few options

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

GSE - Grapefruit seed extract

> Hello,

> What is GSE?

>

> Will and Ben's Mom

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Hello,

> What is GSE?

GrapeFRUIT seed extract [not grape seed extract]. Great for yeast.

You can buy it at a local health food store.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Zarine,

GSE is Grapefruit Seed Extract not Grape Seed Extract

I've never used it so I can't help there--sorry.

Robin

[Guest guest]

Zarine,

Fire trucks are the best things in the world, eh? Fantastic news!

I'd count Kai kuck as fire truck too! Wonderful. So happy for you.

Great Christmas present - two types of fire truck: the physical and

the spoken! LOL! :>)

Jaci, Australia

PS Is it GrapeFRUIT seed extract you're wanting or grapeseed

extract? Confusing.

> P.S. Woo hoo!!! when i grabbed his new ( christmas) fire truck

coz he was trying to go downstairs holding onto it & not the

bannister ... he sat down & cried " kai kuck " ... " Kai kuck " ... I'm

DEFINATELY counting that as a word... as in " fire truck "

[Guest guest]

> Hi! everyone,

> Is Grape seed extract O.P.C. 100 thornes... the same as the grape seed extract

thats in the liquid form... ? Is one better than the

other...

I have read the liquid GSE is more effective than the capsules.

>>Z ( 2.8 yrs & 28 pounds) is on 1 capsule a day....I thought it was an anti

oxidant..is it for yeast?

Grape seed extract is an antioxidant.

Grapefruit seed extract is for killing yeast.

> P.S. Woo hoo!!! when i grabbed his new ( christmas) fire truck coz he was

trying to go downstairs holding onto it & not the

bannister ... he sat down & cried " kai kuck " ... " Kai kuck " ... I'm DEFINATELY

counting that as a word... as in " fire truck "

Yep, sounds like it to me. Congrats!

Dana

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/3/04 6:57:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,

karitrautman@... writes:

> Help. Is there a verdict in on this? We have a yeast and a bac. problem,

> but also low flora. I was thinking of using this as part of a rotation plan.

> Currently are using Yeast Aid and Candex. How would one know if they are

> doing more harm than good???

> Kari

Kari,

I have never used GSE so I can't really comment on it. From reading stuff on

this list, have you tried a combination of Oil of Oregano for the yeast(nasty

unless your child can swallow the capsules of it) and either Lauricidin or

Biocidin for the bacteria? Also, I think Colloidal Silver will effect both the

yeast and bacteria--not totally sure about the yeast.

Robin

[Guest guest]

> Help. Is there a verdict in on this? We have a yeast and a bac. problem, but

also low flora. I was thinking of using this as part of a

rotation plan. Currently are using Yeast Aid and Candex. How would one know if

they are doing more harm than good???

For my son, bacteria bn looked like diluted cottage cheese and smelled like

acid. If you notice something like that as a bm, then

stop the GSE. You can also consider oil of oregano or one of the other

yeast/bacteria killers.

Dana

[Guest guest]

where can i buy oil of oregano is it like GSE or better. whatis the

difference?will OoO creat bacteria problem like GSE when usedmore than few days

is

that enough time to kill all the yeast or this is on going thing ?

Thanks in advance?

In a message dated 04/01/2004 15:59:31 GMT Standard Time, danasview@...

writes:

>

> > Help. Is there a verdict in on this? We have a yeast and a bac. problem,

> but also low flora. I was thinking of using this as part of a

> rotation plan. Currently are using Yeast Aid and Candex. How would one

> know if they are doing more harm than good???

>

>

> For my son, bacteria bn looked like diluted cottage cheese and smelled like

> acid. If you notice something like that as a bm, then

> stop the GSE. You can also consider oil of oregano or one of the other

> yeast/bacteria killers.

>

> Dana

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi sharon

As i am in uk can I buy on internet? if yes which website? also can you

please tell how do you give it and dose requirement.

THanks in advance

seema

In a message dated 05/01/2004 04:34:55 GMT Standard Time, mrrva@...

writes:

>

> North American Oreganol can bought at most health food

> stores and in my experience in good for bacteria. It

> isn't effective for yeast issues with us.

>

> P

>

> --- simagnd@... wrote:

> >

> > where can i buy oil of oregano is it like GSE or

> > better. whatis the

> > difference?will OoO creat bacteria problem like GSE

> > when usedmore than few days is

> > that enough time to kill all the yeast or this is on

> > going thing ?

> >

> > Thanks in advance?

> >

> > seema

>