Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 This is a case where exception proves the rule. As Vogelstein, whose career-goal is to establish genetic origin of cancer, himself states: " Unlike the tumors arising from MVA, most cancers are not hereditary. " In other words, genetic orgin is established only for a cancer type which is hereditary. Such childhood cancers are extremely rare. It has been known for more than a decade that childhood eye-tumor retinoblastoma (another inherited cancer) is caused by defective copy of the RB gene. In that case, it has been shown that a certain genetic region is missing on chromosome 13. In fact, in all inherited cancer cases, when detailed studies are done, the root of problem is found to be a DELETION of a genetic region. Thus it is the absence of a normal healthy gene that is the cause of malignant transformation -- suggesting that the concept of " bad gene " or " mutated gene " is quite unnecessary to explain cancer. The role of genes is passive. For more on this subject, please see: http://www.cancer-treatment.net/CancerAndGenes.htm Jay Kulsh > > Science, Vol 306, Issue 5695, 389, 15 October 2004 [DOI: > 10.1126/science.306.5695.389a] > > GENETICS: > > Disease Backs Cancer Origin Theory > > Grimm > > Almost all cancer cells have gained or lost entire chromosomes. Despite > the genetic turmoil this causes, scientists have disagreed for nearly a > century about whether this abnormality and other types of genomic > instability, such as that caused by DNA repair defects, are the starting > gun for cancer or merely a result of it. A study published online in > Nature Genetics this week provides the strongest evidence yet for the > starting gun theory by showing that mutations in a gene involved in > ensuring proper chromosome number result in childhood cancer. > > " The connection between chromosomal instability and cancer is now > unassailable, " says Bert Vogelstein, an oncologist at s Hopkins > University School of Medicine in Baltimore, land. " This study will > stimulate a lot of research into whether mutations in genes [involved in > chromosome maintenance] contribute to other types of cancer. " > > In 1914, German biologist Theodor Boveri noticed that the cancer cells > he was studying contained an abnormal number of chromosomes, a state > called aneuploidy. The observation led him to postulate that the > condition was a root cause of cancer. But as researchers began to > discover that mutations in specific oncogenes and tumor-suppressor genes > were enough to set cancer in motion, the aneuploidy theory fell out of > fashion. Now it's back, thanks to a series of studies in the mid- 1990s > on the larger issue of genomic instability. For example, Vogelstein and > others showed that mutations in genes required for DNA repair led to a > hereditary form of colon cancer, indicating that the destabilization of > a cell's genome could instigate cancer. But the field is still deeply > divided between scientists who believe genomic instability must happen > early for cancer and those who say it happens later and may not even be > required. > <snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Dear Jay: I would like to add some of your information to my cesiumtherapy group. I have great hope for electronic treatment but it is an uphill battle with the big cancer business. I don't know if you are familiar with Kansius of Erie PA who has a radio frequency generator. He has several doctors at the MD interested as well as the Univ of Pittsburgh. There was an article about him in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, I think it was the 25 th of Sept. I talked to him shortly after that and he was going for a meeting at the MD within two weeks from then. How much investigation has been done on the creation of free radicals from the voltages? Dottie Mashman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Dottie, Gammill was nice enough to send me copy of that article related to efforts of Kanzius of PA (July 25, 2004). So much of that article is about protecting the process and getting the patent. So now you can see why no institution wants to touch GEIPE cancer therapy since many animal studies, with positive outcomes, have already been published. This process will be very hard to patent, and inexpensive to boot. Jay Kulsh www.cancer-treatment.net > Dear Jay: > I would like to add some of your information to my cesiumtherapy group. > I have great hope for electronic treatment but it is an uphill battle with the big cancer business. I don't know if you are familiar with Kansius of Erie PA who has a radio frequency generator. He has several doctors at the MD interested as well as the Univ of Pittsburgh. There was an article about him in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, I think it was the 25 th of Sept. I talked to him shortly after that and he was going for a meeting at the MD within two weeks from then. How much investigation has been done on the creation of free radicals from the voltages? > Dottie Mashman > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 As Vogelstein, whose life-mission is to establish genetic origin of cancer, himself states: " Unlike the tumors arising from MVA, most cancers are not hereditary. " So if an extremely rare herditary disease is found to be genetic in origin, where is the news here? Biologically speaking, hereditary always means genetic. Important thing to remember is that such childhood hereditary cancers are extremely rare. These are exceptions just as a few cancers caused by virus are exceptions! It has been known for more than a decade that childhood eye-tumor retinoblastoma (another rare inherited cancer) is caused by defective copy of the RB gene. In that case, it has been shown that a certain genetic region is missing on chromosome 13. In fact, in all inherited cancer cases, when detailed studies are done, the root of problem is found to be a DELETION of a genetic region. Thus it is the absence of a normal healthy gene that is the cause of malignant transformation -- suggesting that the concept of " bad gene " or " mutated gene " is quite unnecessary to explain cancer. The role of genes is passive. For more on this subject, please see: http://www.cancer-treatment.net/CancerAndGenes.htm Jay Kulsh > > Science, Vol 306, Issue 5695, 389, 15 October 2004 [DOI: > 10.1126/science.306.5695.389a] > > GENETICS: > > Disease Backs Cancer Origin Theory > > Grimm > > Almost all cancer cells have gained or lost entire chromosomes. Despite > the genetic turmoil this causes, scientists have disagreed for nearly a > century about whether this abnormality and other types of genomic > instability, such as that caused by DNA repair defects, are the starting > gun for cancer or merely a result of it. A study published online in > Nature Genetics this week provides the strongest evidence yet for the > starting gun theory by showing that mutations in a gene involved in > ensuring proper chromosome number result in childhood cancer. > > " The connection between chromosomal instability and cancer is now > unassailable, " says Bert Vogelstein, an oncologist at s Hopkins > University School of Medicine in Baltimore, land. " This study will > stimulate a lot of research into whether mutations in genes [involved in > chromosome maintenance] contribute to other types of cancer. " > > In 1914, German biologist Theodor Boveri noticed that the cancer cells > he was studying contained an abnormal number of chromosomes, a state > called aneuploidy. The observation led him to postulate that the > condition was a root cause of cancer. But as researchers began to > discover that mutations in specific oncogenes and tumor-suppressor genes > were enough to set cancer in motion, the aneuploidy theory fell out of > fashion. Now it's back, thanks to a series of studies in the mid- 1990s > on the larger issue of genomic instability. For example, Vogelstein and > others showed that mutations in genes required for DNA repair led to a > hereditary form of colon cancer, indicating that the destabilization of > a cell's genome could instigate cancer. But the field is still deeply > divided between scientists who believe genomic instability must happen > early for cancer and those who say it happens later and may not even be > required. > <snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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