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[Guest guest]

No kidding I was really starting to pace the floor and wear out the carpet back here in the back row! Fluffy Re: [ ] (no subject) Glad your doing better. We don't recover as fast aswe did at 20. Take care of yourself and go slowly. Sharon--- Jannewilms42@... wrote:> Ok today is mOnday and I HAVE NO TEMP!!! Whoo> Hoo..Maybe I am on my way to > recovery finally!! For some reason though I am> extremely sore in the ole > belly..VERY tender..Hey as long as the temp is gone> that's great to me...I do > want to thank all of you for caring..I did have a> bacterial infection Arlene > when I had to go back in the last time and no they> aren't any fun at all..I > was in for 4 days that time..I don't want to go back> in now..I have a return > appt on the 17th..As long as I can hold on till then> I think I'll be ok..Just > say a prayer and keep me in your thoughts..Mostly I> just get so tired so > fast..Faster than normal but the Hep isn't helping> me out with a quick > recovery that's for sure and of course the pain I> DON'T have on my right side > doesn't help either...> __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Jan, I don't know if I have told you all before. I do about 98% of the cooking in our house. I always I am always changing receioies around. I have had no compants so far.

Terry

Jannewilms42@... wrote: Arlene my normal temp is 97.3...My hubby of course says there is nop way it can be that..Well it sure is so he says I too have to be different..As far as receipies go I too change them..Don't it just seem that they taste better when we do??

[Guest guest]

Jan, I am all so sorry if we got on your case. We all did it because we love you & need you around in the group. You keep us all in line.

Terry

imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

Great news, Jan! Sorry if we got on your case a little bit, but we didn't want you to let this thing get out of hand. We NEED you! -dz- Jannewilms42@... wrote: Ok today is mOnday and I HAVE NO TEMP!!! Whoo Hoo..Maybe I am on my way to recovery finally!! For some reason though I am extremely sore in the ole belly..VERY tender..Hey as long as the temp is gone that's great to me...I do want to thank all of you for caring..I did have a bacterial infection Arlene when I had to go back in the last time and no they aren't any fun at all..I was in for 4 days that time..I don't want to go back in now..I have a return appt on the 17th..As long as I can hold on till then I think I'll be ok..Just say a prayer and keep me in your thoughts..Mostly I just get so tired so fast..Faster than normal but the Hep isn't helping me out with a quick recovery that's for sure and of course the pain I DON'T have on my right side doesn't help either...

[Guest guest]

You are still special

Terry

Jannewilms42@... wrote: Hey maybe we aren't abnormal after all! There are a lot of us like that I see..LOL..Hell and I thought I was special..

[Guest guest]

hello robert just curious what kind of treatment were

you on when you relasped twice? debbie

--- <ralexan@...> wrote:

> Hi Bruce

>

> I'm also type 1b. I have been on treatment twice

> since 1996. Seems I reach

> undetectable levels then relapse when the treatment

> is finished. 1b is

> supposed to be one of the types that is easier to

> clear.

>

>

> Re: [ ] (no subject)

> >

> >

> > > The SSRI antidepressants are extremely helpful

> at taking

> > > the edge off of and eliminating depression. I've

> spent

> > > the last 10 years working in mental health and

> sometimes

> > > I think we should add them to the water<G>. I

> always

> > > find it interesting that people are so resistant

> to the

> > > use of medications to treat the brain. The brain

> is just

> > > another organ in your body, as is your liver,

> heart,

> > > skin, etc. Antidepressants basically restore the

> > > chemical balance of brain functioning.

> > >

> > > There are several good antidepressants. The

> choice of

> > > which one to use is best made by your Dr. I've

> used

> > > Luvox for 7 yrs with great success. Paxil,

> Celexa,

> > > Effexor, and Zoloft are also good. Effectiveness

> depends

> > > your personal brain chemistry and response.

> Working with

> > > a Dr. and a counselor can be extremely helpful.

> > >

> > > If you prefer not to use antidepressants,

> working with a

> > > social worker, counselor, or psychologist may be

> enough.

> > > However, if thoughts of suicide, dying, or

> depression

> > > impact your functioning, appropriate medications

> are

> > > necessary.

> > > --

> > > Bruce Cook

> > > bdcbbq1@...

> > > > My birth name is Debbie and I'm from the

> northwestern

> > > > suburbs of chi-town (chicago) I realize that I

> must go

> > > > on antidepressants but the only thing is they

> cant

> > > > even guess when I would start treatment. I

> hate the

> > > > thought of going on antidepressants but Im not

> in any

> > > > hurry, My dr. would put me on them now if I

> let him

> > > > and I'm not sure what kind I should start on

> that

> > > > works any suggestions? Debbie

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> > > > > Hey giglebutt what is your real name if you

> don't

> > > > > mind my asking??? Where are

> > > > > you from..I am Jan from Louisiana...I hope

> you are

> > > > > getting your questions

> > > > > answered..Do you work?? I did my treatment

> at first

> > > > > without anyone

> > > > > here...It's ok..It eaffects us all different

> but

> > > > > Dave is right I'd get on

> > > > > anti-depressants first for about a month

> before you

> > > > > start..If you need

> > > > > anymore answers just ask the questions..Hope

> we can

> > > > > help..

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> __________________________________________________

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Fluffy time to quit pacing now!! I'm with ya in the back row too!!

[Guest guest]

Hum Terry it seems you all keep me in line too but don't worry about being on my case it just shows yall care...I get on ya'lls too...This is what this support group is all about..I have an appt on the 17th that I'll keep..Check up after surgery..I am still swollen on my left side alot..I look lop sided!! LOL

[Guest guest]

TY Terry....)

[Guest guest]

Oh thats just toooooo cool. Please step over the rut I wore in the floor back here. Love Fluffy Re: [ ] (no subject) Fluffy time to quit pacing now!! I'm with ya in the back row too!!

[Guest guest]

Jan-- I always have a prayer for you & every one else who has this

nasty virus!!! And believe I think of you all - all the time....even

when I'm not online<g>

You all are like my family & best friends!!!

Thanks Everyone!!!!!

arlene

Jannewilms42@... wrote:

Ok

today is mOnday and I HAVE NO TEMP!!! Whoo Hoo..Maybe I am on my way to

recovery finally!! For some reason though I am extremely sore in the ole

belly..VERY tender..Hey as long as the temp is gone that's great to me...I

do want to thank all of you for caring..I did have a bacterial infection

Arlene when I had to go back in the last time and no they aren't any fun

at all..I was in for 4 days that time..I don't want to go back in now..I

have a return appt on the 17th..As long as I can hold on till then I think

I'll be ok..Just say a prayer and keep me in your thoughts..Mostly I just

get so tired so fast..Faster than normal but the Hep isn't helping me out

with a quick recovery that's for sure and of course the pain I DON'T have

on my right side doesn't help either...

[Guest guest]

Hi Jan----- how odd??? maybe!!! my normal temp is 97.4

& yes thaey do taste better once been Jan-ized or /////////Arlene-ized!!!LOL

arlene

Jannewilms42@... wrote:

Arlene

my normal temp is 97.3...My hubby of course says there is nop way it can

be that..Well it sure is so he says I too have to be different..As far

as receipies go I too change them..Don't it just seem that they taste better

when we do??

[Guest guest]

Sharon---I like the word 'unique' much better than 'just being different' LOL

arlene

Sharon Zeis wrote:

> I'm glad your feeling better and back with us. Your

> not " different " . Just unique. And its great to be

> unique.

> Sharon

> --- ACE <arken@...> wrote:

> > Are most of you in this group type 1a or 1b...I feel

> > strange as I have

> > quite a different form--type 3a-- & it's not

> > supposed to be prevalent in

> > the USA!! I've always been a little strange I

> > guess!! Somehow I seem

> > to like being defferent in most matters!!!

> > Ken is always telling that I Arlenize everything

> > you know kinda like

> > when I get someone's recipe or something like

> > that---I tend to change it

> > somewhat!! But so in over 19 yrs Ken seems to like

> > the way I change

> > things<g> So I guess it's OK to be little

> > different(?)!!!!!!

> > arlene

> >

> > imaganeer wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > I also have type 1b. They told me that it was more

> > common in Europe,

> > > but it seems to have made the trip accross the

> > Atlantic.. I am

> > > hoping to remain undetectable, I finished

> > treatment a few months

> > > ago. -dz-

> > >

> > > Bruce Cook <bdcbbq1@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > If I missed any of your posts before I'm

> > sorry. Welcome to

> > > the group.

> > >

> > > Thanks, I've been lurking for a couple of

> > weeks. I'm in

> > > month 5 of tx. Have

> > > genotype 1b and doing fair. Better than some

> > worse than

> > > others.

> > >

> > > Bruce

> > > mailto:bdcbbq1@...

> > >

> > > Re: [ ] (no

> > subject)

> > >

> > > Hi Bruce

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Re: [ ] (no

> > subject)

> > >

> > >

> > > > The SSRI antidepressants are extremely

> > helpful at taking

> > > > the edge off of and eliminating depression.

> > I've spent

> > > > the last 10 years working in mental health

> > and sometimes

> > > > I think we should add them to the water. I

> > always

> > > > find it interesting that people are so

> > resistant to the

> > > > use of medications to treat the brain. The

> > brain is just

> > > > another organ in your body, as is your

> > liver, heart,

> > > > skin, etc. Antidepressants basically

> > restore the

> > > > chemical balance of brain functioning.

> > > >

> > > > There are several good antidepressants. The

> > choice of

> > > > which one to use is best made by your Dr.

> > I've used

> > > > Luvox for 7 yrs with great success. Paxil,

> > Celexa,

> > > > Effexor, and Zoloft are also good.

> > Effectiveness depends

> > > > your personal brain chemistry and response.

> > Working with

> > > > a Dr. and a counselor can be extremely

> > helpful.

> > > >

> > > > If you prefer not to use antidepressants,

> > working with a

> > > > social worker, counselor, or psychologist

> > may be enough.

> > > > However, if thoughts of suicide, dying, or

> > depression

> > > > impact your functioning, appropriate

> > medications are

> > > > necessary.

> > > > --

> > > > Bruce Cook

> > > > bdcbbq1@...

> > > > > My birth name is Debbie and I'm from the

> > northwestern

> > > > > suburbs of chi-town (chicago) I realize

> > that I must go

> > > > > on antidepressants but the only thing is

> > they cant

> > > > > even guess when I would start treatment.

> > I hate the

> > > > > thought of going on antidepressants but

> > Im not in any

> > > > > hurry, My dr. would put me on them now if

> > I let him

> > > > > and I'm not sure what kind I should start

> > on that

> > > > > works any suggestions? Debbie

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> > > > > > Hey giglebutt what is your real name if

> > you don't

> > > > > > mind my asking??? Where are

> > > > > > you from..I am Jan from Louisiana...I

> > hope you are

> > > > > > getting your questions

> > > > > > answered..Do you work?? I did my

> > treatment at first

> > > > > > without anyone

> > > > > > here...It's ok..It eaffects us all

> > different but

> > > > > > Dave is right I'd get on

> > > > > > anti-depressants first for about a

> > month before you

> > > > > > start..If you need

> > > > > > anymore answers just ask the

> > questions..Hope we can

> > > > > > help..

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > __________________________________________________

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I never had 'that' problem(needles) but many of my friends were that type

of user/abuser.....anything for the High......myself I hated the sight

of blood & needles..

I gues I was lucky in that aspect..as most of 'my friends' died from

OD-ing..I'm very sad to say.....but I gues in their own way they were lucky(?)

enough not to have to go thru this virus!!! I know I'm probably wording

this wrong.....as my intentions are not to 'condemn' anyone for their lifestyle!!!!!

you know kinda like 'any which way you can' & 'live & let

die'????? In others words I guess I'm trying to say I don't hold

anyones past- interfere with the person's past! We all did what we

wanted & at that time thought was OK!!! Heaven knows - who am

I to judge???? As Popeye used to say "Iam what I am, & that's

who I'll be"

Take Care

arlene

imaganeer wrote:

I know what you mean. They weren't easily available here, so we would

use one until it was so blunt you could hardly break the skin with it.

Sorry if that's offensive to anybody, but that's the way we were when we

wanted a high... -dz-

bdcbbq1@... wrote:

The

flip side of this is also how many did we give it

to. I grew up in a rural area and there were at least a

few hundred of us sharing needles in some manner over a

year or two period.

--

Bruce Cook

bdcbbq1@...

>

> I suppose. The guy I was using with around the time I suspect

I contracted this

> had just come out of the service. -dz-

> <ralexan@...> wrote: Hi

DZ Maybe one of us veterans

> brought it back with us. There is plenty of us out here who have

hepc.

> Re: [ ] (no subject)

>

>

> > The SSRI antidepressants are extremely helpful at taking

> > the edge off of and eliminating depression. I've spent

> > the last 10 years working in mental health and sometimes

> > I think we should add them to the water. I always

> > find it interesting that people are so resistant to the

> > use of medications to treat the brain. The brain is just

> > another organ in your body, as is your liver, heart,

> > skin, etc. Antidepressants basically restore the

> > chemical balance of brain functioning.

> >

> > There are several good antidepressants. The choice of

> > which one to use is best made by your Dr. I've used

> > Luvox for 7 yrs with great success. Paxil, Celexa,

> > Effexor, and Zoloft are also good. Effectiveness depends

> > your personal brain chemistry and response. Working with

> > a Dr. and a counselor can be extremely helpful.

> >

> > If you prefer not to use antidepressants, working with a

> > social worker, counselor, or psychologist may be enough.

> > However, if thoughts of suicide, dying, or depression

> > impact your functioning, appropriate medications are

> > necessary.

> > --

> > Bruce Cook

> > bdcbbq1@...

> > > My birth name is Debbie and I'm from the northwestern

> > > suburbs of chi-town (chicago) I realize that I must go

> > > on antidepressants but the only thing is they cant

> > > even guess when I would start treatment. I hate the

> > > thought of going on antidepressants but Im not in any

> > > hurry, My dr. would put me on them now if I let him

> > > and I'm not sure what kind I should start on that

> > > works any suggestions? Debbie

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> > > > Hey giglebutt what is your real name if you don't

> > > > mind my asking??? Where are

> > > > you from..I am Jan from Louisiana...I hope you are

> > > > getting your questions

> > > > answered..Do you work?? I did my treatment at first

> > > > without anyone

> > > > here...It's ok..It eaffects us all different but

> > > > Dave is right I'd get on

> > > > anti-depressants first for about a month before you

> > > > start..If you need

> > > > anymore answers just ask the questions..Hope we can

> > > > help..

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

Well Terry - that makes 3 of us that I know of: the other guy rid

himself of the virus quite easily - but only had the virus for a short

time(lucky him) I'm hoping to hear of your success with the treament

I've been told that if & when I get a transplant...... then I'll

go through the treatment, but for now--it's too late for any kind of treatment.......the

cirrhosis has done quite a bit to my poor liver....Oh well --live &

learn???????I guess!!!

arlene

Terry Long wrote:

Arlene, I am a 3A. But Gr says it is one of the most responive

to treatment.

Terry

ACE <arken@...> wrote:

Are

most of you in this group type 1a or 1b...I feel strange as I have quite

a different form--type 3a-- & it's not supposed to be prevalent in

the USA!! I've always been a little strange I guess!! Somehow

I seem to like being defferent in most matters!!!

Ken is always telling that I Arlenize everything you know kinda

like when I get someone's recipe or something like that---I tend to change

it somewhat!! But so in over 19 yrs Ken seems to like the way I change

things<g> So I guess it's OK to be little different(?)!!!!!!

arlene

imaganeer wrote:

I also have type 1b. They told me that it was more common in Europe,

but it seems to have made the trip accross the Atlantic.. I am

hoping to remain undetectable, I finished treatment a few months ago.

-dz-

Bruce Cook <bdcbbq1@...> wrote:

If

I missed any of your posts before I'm sorry. Welcome to the group.

Thanks, I've been lurking for a couple of weeks. I'm in month 5 of

tx. Have

genotype 1b and doing fair. Better than some worse than others.

Bruce

mailto:bdcbbq1@...

Re: [ ] (no subject)

Hi Bruce

Re: [ ] (no subject)

> The SSRI antidepressants are extremely helpful at taking

> the edge off of and eliminating depression. I've spent

> the last 10 years working in mental health and sometimes

> I think we should add them to the water. I always

> find it interesting that people are so resistant to the

> use of medications to treat the brain. The brain is just

> another organ in your body, as is your liver, heart,

> skin, etc. Antidepressants basically restore the

> chemical balance of brain functioning.

>

> There are several good antidepressants. The choice of

> which one to use is best made by your Dr. I've used

> Luvox for 7 yrs with great success. Paxil, Celexa,

> Effexor, and Zoloft are also good. Effectiveness depends

> your personal brain chemistry and response. Working with

> a Dr. and a counselor can be extremely helpful.

>

> If you prefer not to use antidepressants, working with a

> social worker, counselor, or psychologist may be enough.

> However, if thoughts of suicide, dying, or depression

> impact your functioning, appropriate medications are

> necessary.

> --

> Bruce Cook

> bdcbbq1@...

> > My birth name is Debbie and I'm from the northwestern

> > suburbs of chi-town (chicago) I realize that I must go

> > on antidepressants but the only thing is they cant

> > even guess when I would start treatment. I hate the

> > thought of going on antidepressants but Im not in any

> > hurry, My dr. would put me on them now if I let him

> > and I'm not sure what kind I should start on that

> > works any suggestions? Debbie

> >

> >

> > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> > > Hey giglebutt what is your real name if you don't

> > > mind my asking??? Where are

> > > you from..I am Jan from Louisiana...I hope you are

> > > getting your questions

> > > answered..Do you work?? I did my treatment at first

> > > without anyone

> > > here...It's ok..It eaffects us all different but

> > > Dave is right I'd get on

> > > anti-depressants first for about a month before you

> > > start..If you need

> > > anymore answers just ask the questions..Hope we can

> > > help..

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

We cannot change our pasts. Like many, I led a very self-destructive youth and I managed to survive it, although not unscathed. I just put it behind me and do the best with the circumstances I now find myself in. As nne nna Danna says "It's always something!" -dz-

ACE <arken@...> wrote: I never had 'that' problem(needles) but many of my friends were thattype of user/abuser.....anything for the High......myself I hated thesight of blood & needles..I gues I was lucky in that aspect..as most of 'my friends' died fromOD-ing..I'm very sad to say.....but I gues in their own way they werelucky(?) enough not to have to go thru this virus!!! I know I'mprobably wording this wrong.....as my intentions are not to 'condemn'anyone for their lifestyle!!!!! you know kinda like 'any which way youcan' & 'live & let die'????? In others words I guess I'm trying to sayI don't hold anyones past- interfere with the person's past! We all didwhat we wanted & at that time thought was OK!!! Heaven knows - who am Ito judge???? As Popeye used to say "Iam what I am, & that's who I'llbe"Take Carearleneimaganeer wrote:>>> I know what you mean. They weren't easily available here, so we would> use one until it was so blunt you could hardly break the skin with it.> Sorry if that's offensive to anybody, but that's the way we were when> we wanted a high... -dz->> bdcbbq1@... wrote:>> The flip side of this is also how many did we give it> to. I grew up in a rural area and there were at least a> few hundred of us sharing needles in some manner over a> year or two period.>> --> Bruce Cook> bdcbbq1@...> >> > I suppose. The guy I was using with around the time I> suspect I contracted this> > had just come out of the service. -dz-> > wrote: Hi DZ Maybe> one of us veterans> > brought it back with us. There is plenty of us out here> who have hepc.> > Re: [ ] (no subject)> >> >> > > The SSRI antidepressants are extremely helpful at taking>> > > the edge off of and eliminating depression. I've spent> > > the last 10 years working in mental health and sometimes>> > > I think we should add them to the water. I always> > > find it interesting that people are so resistant to the> > > use of medications to treat the brain. The brain is just>> > > another organ in your body, as is your liver, heart,> > > skin, etc. Antidepressants basically restore the> > > chemical balance of brain functioning.> > >> > > There are several good antidepressants. The choice of> > > which one to use is best made by your Dr. I've used> > > Luvox for 7 yrs with great success. Paxil, Celexa,> > > Effexor, and Zoloft are also good. Effectiveness depends>> > > your personal brain chemistry and response. Working with>> > > a Dr. and a counselor can be extremely helpful.> > >> > > If you prefer not to use antidepressants, working with a>> > > social worker, counselor, or psychologist may be enough.>> > > However, if thoughts of suicide, dying, or depression> > > impact your functioning, appropriate medications are> > > necessary.> > > --> > > Bruce Cook> > > bdcbbq1@...> > > > My birth name is Debbie and I'm from the northwestern> > > > suburbs of chi-town (chicago) I realize that I must go>> > > > on antidepressants but the only thing is they cant> > > > even guess when I would start treatment. I hate the> > > > thought of going on antidepressants but Im not in any> > > > hurry, My dr. would put me on them now if I let him> > > > and I'm not sure what kind I should start on that> > > > works any suggestions? Debbie> > > >> > > >> > > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:> > > > > Hey giglebutt what is your real name if you don't> > > > > mind my asking??? Where are> > > > > you from..I am Jan from Louisiana...I hope you are> > > > > getting your questions> > > > > answered..Do you work?? I did my treatment at first> > > > > without anyone> > > > > here...It's ok..It eaffects us all different but> > > > > Dave is right I'd get on> > > > > anti-depressants first for about a month before you> > > > > start..If you need> > > > > anymore answers just ask the questions..Hope we can> > > > > help..> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > __________________________________________________> > > >

[Guest guest]

You bet, I watched the first 60 laps till the rain came & watched the rest on Sunday. Dale Jr hit the hall & Jeff came in 7th.

Terry

Jannewilms42@... wrote: Hi everyone!! I was busy all weekend but yesterday I stayed in bed mostly playing lazy..I guess I was tired from Friday and Saturday..I had alot of errands to run and since my surgery this is the first time I really done all the things I needed to..It wore me out..Yesterday my neck and head were hurting so I just stayed in bed most of the day..I guess it'll just take a little time getting y strength back..Thought I was over all this surgery mess but it showed me different..Terry...I missed the race yesterday...It must have aired on FX and we don't get that..I tried looking for it though..Heard Tony won..Did you get to see it??

[Guest guest]

How TRUE!!!!!!!!

But what experiences we've all HAD-----Lots of good memories !!!!!

Lately I can remember days of yon!!!BUT then I couldn't tell what I had

for dinner the night before!!!!<g>

arlene

imaganeer wrote:

We cannot change our pasts. Like many, I led a very self-destructive

youth and I managed to survive it, although not unscathed. I just put it

behind me and do the best with the circumstances I now find myself in.

As nne nna Danna says "It's always something!" -dz-

ACE <arken@...> wrote:

I

never had 'that' problem(needles) but many of my friends were that

type of user/abuser.....anything for the High......myself I hated the

sight of blood & needles..

I gues I was lucky in that aspect..as most of 'my friends' died from

OD-ing..I'm very sad to say.....but I gues in their own way they were

lucky(?) enough not to have to go thru this virus!!! I know I'm

probably wording this wrong.....as my intentions are not to 'condemn'

anyone for their lifestyle!!!!! you know kinda like 'any which way

you

can' & 'live & let die'????? In others words I guess I'm trying

to say

I don't hold anyones past- interfere with the person's past! We all

did

what we wanted & at that time thought was OK!!! Heaven knows -

who am I

to judge???? As Popeye used to say "Iam what I am, & that's who

I'll

be"

Take Care

arlene

imaganeer wrote:

>

>

> I know what you mean. They weren't easily available here, so we would

> use one until it was so blunt you could hardly break the skin with

it.

> Sorry if that's offensive to anybody, but that's the way we were

when

> we wanted a high... -dz-

>

> bdcbbq1@... wrote:

>

> The flip side of this is also how many did we give it

> to. I grew up in a rural area and there were at least a

> few hundred of us sharing needles in some manner over a

> year or two period.

>

> --

> Bruce Cook

> bdcbbq1@...

> >

> > I suppose. The guy I was using with around the time I

> suspect I contracted this

> > had just come out of the service. -dz-

> > wrote: Hi DZ Maybe

> one of us veterans

> > brought it back with us. There is plenty of us out here

> who have hepc.

> > Re: [ ] (no subject)

> >

> >

> > > The SSRI antidepressants are extremely helpful at taking

>

> > > the edge off of and eliminating depression. I've spent

> > > the last 10 years working in mental health and sometimes

>

> > > I think we should add them to the water. I always

> > > find it interesting that people are so resistant to the

> > > use of medications to treat the brain. The brain is just

>

> > > another organ in your body, as is your liver, heart,

> > > skin, etc. Antidepressants basically restore the

> > > chemical balance of brain functioning.

> > >

> > > There are several good antidepressants. The choice of

> > > which one to use is best made by your Dr. I've used

> > > Luvox for 7 yrs with great success. Paxil, Celexa,

> > > Effexor, and Zoloft are also good. Effectiveness depends

>

> > > your personal brain chemistry and response. Working with

>

> > > a Dr. and a counselor can be extremely helpful.

> > >

> > > If you prefer not to use antidepressants, working with a

>

> > > social worker, counselor, or psychologist may be enough.

>

> > > However, if thoughts of suicide, dying, or depression

> > > impact your functioning, appropriate medications are

> > > necessary.

> > > --

> > > Bruce Cook

> > > bdcbbq1@...

> > > > My birth name is Debbie and I'm from the northwestern

> > > > suburbs of chi-town (chicago) I realize that I must go

>

> > > > on antidepressants but the only thing is they cant

> > > > even guess when I would start treatment. I hate the

> > > > thought of going on antidepressants but Im not in any

> > > > hurry, My dr. would put me on them now if I let him

> > > > and I'm not sure what kind I should start on that

> > > > works any suggestions? Debbie

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> > > > > Hey giglebutt what is your real name if you don't

> > > > > mind my asking??? Where are

> > > > > you from..I am Jan from Louisiana...I hope you are

> > > > > getting your questions

> > > > > answered..Do you work?? I did my treatment at first

> > > > > without anyone

> > > > > here...It's ok..It eaffects us all different but

> > > > > Dave is right I'd get on

> > > > > anti-depressants first for about a month before you

> > > > > start..If you need

> > > > > anymore answers just ask the questions..Hope we can

> > > > > help..

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > __________________________________________________

> > > >

[Guest guest]

How TRUE!!!!!!!!

But what experiences we've all HAD-----Lots of good memories !!!!!

Lately I can remember days of yon!!!BUT then I couldn't tell what I had

for dinner the night before!!!!<g>

arlene

imaganeer wrote:

We cannot change our pasts. Like many, I led a very self-destructive

youth and I managed to survive it, although not unscathed. I just put it

behind me and do the best with the circumstances I now find myself in.

As nne nna Danna says "It's always something!" -dz-

ACE <arken@...> wrote:

I

never had 'that' problem(needles) but many of my friends were that

type of user/abuser.....anything for the High......myself I hated the

sight of blood & needles..

I gues I was lucky in that aspect..as most of 'my friends' died from

OD-ing..I'm very sad to say.....but I gues in their own way they were

lucky(?) enough not to have to go thru this virus!!! I know I'm

probably wording this wrong.....as my intentions are not to 'condemn'

anyone for their lifestyle!!!!! you know kinda like 'any which way

you

can' & 'live & let die'????? In others words I guess I'm trying

to say

I don't hold anyones past- interfere with the person's past! We all

did

what we wanted & at that time thought was OK!!! Heaven knows -

who am I

to judge???? As Popeye used to say "Iam what I am, & that's who

I'll

be"

Take Care

arlene

imaganeer wrote:

>

>

> I know what you mean. They weren't easily available here, so we would

> use one until it was so blunt you could hardly break the skin with

it.

> Sorry if that's offensive to anybody, but that's the way we were

when

> we wanted a high... -dz-

>

> bdcbbq1@... wrote:

>

> The flip side of this is also how many did we give it

> to. I grew up in a rural area and there were at least a

> few hundred of us sharing needles in some manner over a

> year or two period.

>

> --

> Bruce Cook

> bdcbbq1@...

> >

> > I suppose. The guy I was using with around the time I

> suspect I contracted this

> > had just come out of the service. -dz-

> > wrote: Hi DZ Maybe

> one of us veterans

> > brought it back with us. There is plenty of us out here

> who have hepc.

> > Re: [ ] (no subject)

> >

> >

> > > The SSRI antidepressants are extremely helpful at taking

>

> > > the edge off of and eliminating depression. I've spent

> > > the last 10 years working in mental health and sometimes

>

> > > I think we should add them to the water. I always

> > > find it interesting that people are so resistant to the

> > > use of medications to treat the brain. The brain is just

>

> > > another organ in your body, as is your liver, heart,

> > > skin, etc. Antidepressants basically restore the

> > > chemical balance of brain functioning.

> > >

> > > There are several good antidepressants. The choice of

> > > which one to use is best made by your Dr. I've used

> > > Luvox for 7 yrs with great success. Paxil, Celexa,

> > > Effexor, and Zoloft are also good. Effectiveness depends

>

> > > your personal brain chemistry and response. Working with

>

> > > a Dr. and a counselor can be extremely helpful.

> > >

> > > If you prefer not to use antidepressants, working with a

>

> > > social worker, counselor, or psychologist may be enough.

>

> > > However, if thoughts of suicide, dying, or depression

> > > impact your functioning, appropriate medications are

> > > necessary.

> > > --

> > > Bruce Cook

> > > bdcbbq1@...

> > > > My birth name is Debbie and I'm from the northwestern

> > > > suburbs of chi-town (chicago) I realize that I must go

>

> > > > on antidepressants but the only thing is they cant

> > > > even guess when I would start treatment. I hate the

> > > > thought of going on antidepressants but Im not in any

> > > > hurry, My dr. would put me on them now if I let him

> > > > and I'm not sure what kind I should start on that

> > > > works any suggestions? Debbie

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> > > > > Hey giglebutt what is your real name if you don't

> > > > > mind my asking??? Where are

> > > > > you from..I am Jan from Louisiana...I hope you are

> > > > > getting your questions

> > > > > answered..Do you work?? I did my treatment at first

> > > > > without anyone

> > > > > here...It's ok..It eaffects us all different but

> > > > > Dave is right I'd get on

> > > > > anti-depressants first for about a month before you

> > > > > start..If you need

> > > > > anymore answers just ask the questions..Hope we can

> > > > > help..

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > __________________________________________________

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I just called them and they said it was my enzyme level that was 20,000 but the other thing was 65.I forgot what the other thing was..Maybe that's the ALTs..Now does that sound right??

[Guest guest]

I just want yall to know i may not be on for a few days..Got some problems I need to take care of..Everything is ok though..I'll be thingking of all of you..After today it'll be probably Saturday before I'm back on..Keep things going in here..

[Guest guest]

That doesn't sound right. ALT's should be in the 30-65 range. I think it can get quite high with hcv, but 20000 seems a bit high. Sometimes there are different methods of measurement which can confuse the issue. -dz-

Jannewilms42@... wrote: Hey there evryone..How are ya..I went to my liver Dr and need to have an ultrasound done on my right side..Beings the liver FEELS NO PAIN they think it may be gallstones..Now isn't that just what the hell I need?? I don't think that's it I think it's the liver..They want me back on tx ASAP due to the fact now they think chirrosis is setting in..I asked for my genotype and they said they don't check for that..I asked why the hell not and how can the say i need tx if they haven't checked..They said because I bloodwork showed Hep C..Don't make much sense to me..I got alot of thinking to do now about tx..They did say my ALTs were 20,000..Now is that bad or not/? Help me here people..Before I get back on tx I need some advice from yall ok??

[Guest guest]

I'm not positive, but I'd say that's BAD. Mine was

only 57 or 58.

Sharon

--- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> Hey there evryone..How are ya..I went to my liver Dr

> and need to have an

> ultrasound done on my right side..Beings the liver

> FEELS NO PAIN they think

> it may be gallstones..Now isn't that just what the

> hell I need?? I don't

> think that's it I think it's the liver..They want me

> back on tx ASAP due to

> the fact now they think chirrosis is setting in..I

> asked for my genotype and

> they said they don't check for that..I asked why the

> hell not and how can the

> say i need tx if they haven't checked..They said

> because I bloodwork showed

> Hep C..Don't make much sense to me..I got alot of

> thinking to do now about

> tx..They did say my ALTs were 20,000..Now is that

> bad or not/? Help me here

> people..Before I get back on tx I need some advice

> from yall ok??

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Jan, If it was me. I would go on TX. It would be nice to know your genotype. But as long as you have this dragon atacking you, it makes no differance what genotype you have. Just get up & starting the battle with the dragon. If you don't fight, the dragon will beat you. So get up start fighting & kick that nasty old dragon in the a--. Your right you don't need gallstones on top of everything you are going through, but most likely it is your liver "the one that feels no pain". I thank all Dr's should have to learn more about are battles with the dragon it might changes there attudes.

I will be praying for you

Terry

Jannewilms42@... wrote: Hey there evryone..How are ya..I went to my liver Dr and need to have an ultrasound done on my right side..Beings the liver FEELS NO PAIN they think it may be gallstones..Now isn't that just what the hell I need?? I don't think that's it I think it's the liver..They want me back on tx ASAP due to the fact now they think chirrosis is setting in..I asked for my genotype and they said they don't check for that..I asked why the hell not and how can the say i need tx if they haven't checked..They said because I bloodwork showed Hep C..Don't make much sense to me..I got alot of thinking to do now about tx..They did say my ALTs were 20,000..Now is that bad or not/? Help me here people..Before I get back on tx I need some advice from yall ok??

[Guest guest]

We are all here to support you no matter what you need ...all the way.... you sure don't need gallstones. However you sure don't need cirhhosis ... How about this is just a random tummy type .... thing I could hang with that..... Hugs [ ] (no subject) Hey there evryone..How are ya..I went to my liver Dr and need to have an ultrasound done on my right side..Beings the liver FEELS NO PAIN they think it may be gallstones..Now isn't that just what the hell I need?? I don't think that's it I think it's the liver..They want me back on tx ASAP due to the fact now they think chirrosis is setting in..I asked for my genotype and they said they don't check for that..I asked why the hell not and how can the say i need tx if they haven't checked..They said because I bloodwork showed Hep C..Don't make much sense to me..I got alot of thinking to do now about tx..They did say my ALTs were 20,000..Now is that bad or not/? Help me here people..Before I get back on tx I need some advice from yall ok??

[Guest guest]

Thanks Terry for the advice...I think just 1 Dr should go through what we do in a regular day with and without tx just once..Then maybe they'd know more huh?? It isn't righ tot wish evil on others but just one day like us and they would change their minds..